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ALL RIGHT.

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WELCOME, EVERYONE.

[I. Welcome/Call Meeting to Order.]

CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER.

I DECLARE IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, NOTICE THIS MEETING WAS POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE.

IN ADDITION, THE MEETING WAS POSTED ONLINE AS BEING HELD VIA VIDEO CONFERENCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DECLARATION BY TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT WHICH TEMPORARILY SUSPENDS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE OPEN MEETING ACT TO LIMIT COVIDâ€'19.

THE DETERMINATION OF A QUORUM REQUIRES AT LEAST FOUR COMMITTEE MEMBERS BE IN ATTENDANCE TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM FOR CONDUCTING BUSINESS.

I ASK THAT EACH COMMITTEE MEMBER INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE BY RESPONDING WITH SOME AUDIBLE SOUND.

TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

ON MARCH 16, 2020, TEXAS GOVERNOR ABBOTT SUSPENDED CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE TEXAS OPEN MEETING ACT TO HELP REDUCE POTENTIAL TRANSMISSION OF COVIDâ€'19.

THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMMITTEE BEGAN USING VIDEO CONFERENCING APRIL 3, 2020.

THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES WILL BE USED TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT AND HAS BEEN MODIFIED FOR THE PURPOSE OF THE MEETING HELD BY VIDEO CONFERENCE.

EITHER KIM OR NES, CAN YOU READ WHAT THE GUIDELINES ARE OR JUST THE HIGHLIGHTS?

>> JUST TO HIT A COUPLE OF KEY POINTS.

WE'RE GOING TO â€'â€' WHEN YOU CALL IN AND THE NUMBERS ARE ON THE SCREEN, YOU'LL BE PUT IN A QUEUE.

WHILE YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE, YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR ITEM BY HITTING STARâ€'9.

THE TIME FOR YOUR COMMENTS IS THREE MINUTES.

ANY OTHER INFORMATION â€'â€' THERE ARE PLENTY OF NUMBERS ON THE AGENDA.

IF YOU WANT TO GO TO THE LIVE VIDEO, YOU CAN DO THAT, TOO, AND WATCH ONLINE.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THIS IS FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, NOT AN AGENDA ITEM THAT'S ON TONIGHT'S MEETING.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY IN THE QUEUE FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS?

>> WE HAVE 19 PEOPLE â€'â€' ACTUALLY, WE HAVE NINE PEOPLE AND ONE HAND IS RAISED.

LET ME SEE.

CALLER ENDING IN 7728, ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENTS OR AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA? CALLER ENDING IN 7728.

>> YES.

>> ARE YOU CALLING TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENTS OR AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA?

>> PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> GO AHEAD.

YOU'RE LIVE WITH THE COMMITTEE.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> PEGGY INGRAM, 38 BELLWETHER COURT, WOODLANDS, TEXAS, 77381.

>> GO AHEAD.

>> NUMBER ONE â€'â€'

>> I THINK SHE'S NOT HERE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

>> ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK TO AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA?

>> YES.

ITEM NUMBER ONE ON THE AGENDA.

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE JUST CALLING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THAT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE CALLING IN ON ITEMS THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MUTE YOU AND WHEN YOUR ITEM COMES UP, WE'LL UNMUTE YOU, OKAY?

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANKS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, HIT STARâ€'9 AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

THAT'S AN ITEM THAT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

I HAVE ONE MORE.

CALLER ENDING IN 5594, ARE YOU CALLING FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT OR AN ITEM THAT'S ON THE AGENDA? HELLO? CALLER ENDING IN 5594, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.

CALLER? I HAVE UNMUTED THEM.

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>> HELLO?

>> HELLO.

ARE YOU CALLING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?

>> YEAH.

>> OR AN ITEM â€'â€' I THINK I SEE IT ON THE SECOND SLIDE, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.

>> WHAT IS YOUR ITEM ON THE AGENDA?

>> I DON'T SEE IT ON THE AGENDA.

>> WHAT ARE YOU CALLING â€'â€' >> I SEE IT ON THE SLIDE ONLINE.

>> WHAT ARE YOU CALLING IN REFERENCE TO?

>> FENCING BUSINESS AT 15 FILIGREE PINES.

>> THAT WILL BE A REVIEW ITEM.

WHEN THAT ITEM COMES UP, WE'LL UNMUTE YOU AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

THAT'S WHEN YOU NEED TO HIT STARâ€'9.

>> GREAT, OKAY.

>> THIS IS JUST FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.

>> VERY GOOD.

>> THANK YOU.

WALT, I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

[III. Consideration and action regarding the minutes of the meeting July 15, 2020.]

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: ALL RIGHT.

ITEM 3 REGARDING THE MINUTES OF THE MEETING FOR JULY 15, 2020.

HAS THE COMMITTEE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THE MINUTES?

>> YES, SIR.

SO MOVED THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

ANDERSON.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> AYE ARTHUR.

>> AYE MARY.

>> AYE.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: ANY OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING THE DELEGATION OF

[IV. Consideration and action regarding the delegation of authority in accordance with the Covenants, Restrictions, Easements, Charges and Liens in The Woodlands during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic.]

AUTHORITY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COVID RESTRICTION EASEMENT, EASEMENT IN THE WOODLANDS DURING THE COVIDâ€'19 PANDEMIC.

>> IN ORDER TO PROVIDE FOR THOSE MEETINGS.

THE LAPTOPS THAT WERE MADE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE FUNDING OF THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP BOARD OF DIRECTORS HAVE ARRIVED AND HAVE BEEN PROGRAMMED AND WILL BE ISSUED TO THOSE WHO NEED A LAPTOP FOR MEETINGS.

AN Eâ€'MAIL WAS SENT TO ALL THE SUPERVISORS FOR THEM TO COORDINATE WITH THEIR RDRCS TO CONDUCT MEETINGS VIA ZOOM STARTING NEXT MONTH FOR THOSE WHO HAVEN'T STARTED.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR STAFF TO ACT IN PLACE OF THE RDRCS?

>>  â€'â€' END OF THIS MONTH.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: OKAY.

IS THAT A YES? IS BRENT STILL ON?

>> I AM.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING ON THAT?

>> NO.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: OKAY.

>> THANK YOU.

I'M ASSUMING THEN THAT THE RDRCS WILL BE BACK IN FULL OPERATION IN SEPTEMBER AND STAFF WILL NOT BE INVOLVED ANYMORE.

>> STAFF WILL NOT BE ACTING ON THE ITEMS THAT THE RDRCS WOULD BE ACTING ON.

ONE EXCEPTION IS INDIAN SPRINGS ON THE WCA.

THEY DO NOT HAVE AN RDRC.

SO WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THAT.

THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN RDRC FOR SEVERAL MONTHS.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

>> WALT?

>> YES, SIR.

>> JUST AN OBSERVATION.

I ATTENDED THE WALDEN BRIDGE MEETING AND STAFF DID A GREAT JOB WITH THE COMMITTEE.

NES WAS THERE AS A TECHNICAL ADVISER AND HELPED EVERYONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

WE APPRECIATED THAT.

THE RDRC APPRECIATED THE SUPPORT FROM STAFF AND THE DSC AND THE TOWNSHIP FINALLY DOING FUNDING.

WE'RE OFF TO A GOOD START.

THE TEAM BROUGHT IT TOGETHER QUICKLY FOR THEM TO HAVE THE MEETING AT THE REGULAR MEETING IN THE EARLY PART OF AUGUST.

>> BOTH COMMITTEES GAVE POSITIVE FEEDBACK ON THEIR MEETING.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: EXCELLENT.

MY COMPLIMENTS TO THE STAFF FOR TAKING THAT OVER DURING THIS TIME FRAME.

DID A GREAT JOB.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR ITEM?

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WE'LL MOVE TO CONSIDERATION FIVE REGARDING THE RNL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS,

[V. Consideration and action regarding the Residential Development Standards and Commercial Planning and Design Standards for interim actions during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic. (Part 1 of 2)]

COMMERCIAL PLANNING AND DESIGN STANDARDS DURING THE COVIDâ€'19 PANDEMIC.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT ON THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HENNIE DOES.

>> I DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE ANYTHING TO REPORT.

>> WALT LISIEWSKI: CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE SPACE OR IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO THE END OF THE MEETING?

>> THIS WOULD BE WHERE YOU WOULD TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT YOU COULD ALSO POSTPONE THAT DISCUSSION UNTIL THE LATTER PART OF THE MEETING.

>> SO WE COULD DISCUSS THE TWO ITEMS THAT WE ARE THINKING OF.

WE DO HAVE A MEETING FOR FRIDAY WHICH WE WILL PLAN AND ARE DISCUSSING IN MORE DETAIL THE PROPOSED STANDARDS AS WELL AS THE OUTDOOR SEATING FOR RESTAURANTS.

THAT INFORMATION WAS SENT OUT TO THE COMMITTEE EARLIER TODAY FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME, I GUESS WE CAN OPEN IT UP FOR THAT.

>> I WOULD JUST SHARE FOR THE CHAIR IN THE INTEREST OF â€'â€' WE HAVE RESIDENTS ON THE PHONE.

WE MAY WANT TO TAKE ITEM FIVE, MOVE IT TOWARD THE END OF THE MEETING.

I HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.

WE ALSO HAVE TO FIND OUT WHERE'S THE PLACE FOR THE COMMERCIAL SIGN STANDARDS, WHERE WOULD WE DISCUSS THOSE?

>> I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA, ARTHUR.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

>> OKAY, SIR.

THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO LET'S MOVE TO ITEM SIX THEN, CONSIDERATION AND ACTION OF THE COMMERCIAL AND

[VI. Consideration and Action of the Commercial and Residential Applications and Covenant Violations in Sections VII and VIII recommended for Summary Action.]

RESIDENTIAL APPLICATION AND COVENANT VIOLATIONS IN SECTION SEVEN AND EIGHT RECOMMENDED FOR SUMMARY ACTION.

DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE SUMMARY ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE REMOVED?

>> NO, SIR.

>> COMMERCIAL.

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

KIM, WILL YOU KINDLY GO THROUGH THE COMMERCIAL SUMMARY ITEMS, PLEASE?

>> CERTAINLY.

FOR THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THE MEETING VIA PHONE, IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ONE OF THE ITEMS I CALL, IF YOU WILL HIT STARâ€'9 ON YOUR PHONE SO I CAN IDENTIFY YOUR ITEM ON THE COMMERCIAL AGENDA.

IF YOU ARE HERE FOR 2600 TECHNOLOGY FOREST BOULEVARD, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

9250 PINECROFT DRIVE.

333 HOLLY CREEK COURT.

 â€'â€' >> SOMEBODY RAISED THEIR HAND.

>> I'LL GO AHEAD AND ENGAGE THAT CALL.

HI, CALLER ENDING IN 2175.

ARE YOU CALLING IN REGARD TO 333 HOLLY CREEK COURT OR 9250 PINECROFT DRIVE? IT APPEARS AS THOUGH THEY ARE MUTE.

I HAVE ASKED THEM TO UNMUTE.

BEAR WITH US FOR A SECOND.

CALLER ENDING IN 2175.

CALLER WITH THE PHONE NUMBER ENDING IN 2175.

I SEE THAT YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

ARE YOU CALLING IN REGARDS TO ONE OF THE ADDRESSES I JUST CALLED UPON? IF SO, IF YOU WILL HIT STARâ€'6 ON YOUR PHONE, I THINK IT WILL UNMUTE YOU.

HI.

ARE YOU â€'â€' >> I AM UNMUTED NOW, YES.

I'M SORRY.

I WAS CALLING IN REGARDS TO ITEM C, 9250 PINECROFT DRIVE.

>> THIS MUST BE KENNETH.

>> GOOD EVENING.

YES, IT IS.

>> PERFECT.

>> KENNETH, I KNOW WE SENT THE RECOMMENDED MOTION TO YOU PRIOR TO THE MEETING FOR THE RENOVATION AND EXPANSION.

I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE AGREEABLE TO ALL OF THE POINTS OF CONDITIONS WITH THE ONE REMAINDER THAT WE REVIEW AND EVALUATE TO DETERMINE IF IT IS THE.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME ADDITIONAL INVESTIGATION AND I HAD SPOKEN WITH KATHLEEN EATON OF THE TOWNSHIP.

I WAS GOING TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION AND GIVE A RESPONSE TO ALL THE CONDITIONAL ITEMS BECAUSE I JUST WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT IF IT'S TRULY THERE, NOT A PROBLEM.

WE WILL COMPLY.

I JUST WANTED TO DO THAT DOUBLE CHECK.

>> PERFECT.

UNDERSTOOD.

I WILL HAVE TO DO A DOUBLE CHECK OUT OF THIS MEETING, BUT THE WAY THE ACTION IS

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POSTED, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD ONLY APPLY WHEN THE FOREST PRESERVE IS CONFIRMED.

>> OKAY.

THAT IS PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR CALLING IN.

OKAY.

333 HOLLY CREEK COURT.

IF YOU ARE CALLING FOR 9501.

500 RESEARCH FOREST DRIVE.

4747 RESEARCH FOREST DRIVE.

6700 WOODLANDS PARKWAY.

4775 WEST PANTHER CREEK DRIVE.

AND THEN THE LAST IS ROMAN NUMERAL 10 FOR THE DECORATIONS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR ACTION FROM YOUR LAST MEETING TO APPLY TO ALL OF THE VILLAGE SHOPPING CENTERS.

I DO NOT SHOW THAT I HAVE ANYONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED FOR THE COMMERCIAL ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE SUMMARY AGENDA OTHER THAN THE GENTLEMAN WE JUST SPOKE WITH.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

MOTION TO ACCEPT COMMERCIAL SUMMARY ITEMS?

>> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

>> ANDERSON, SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> ARTHUR, AYE.

>> MARY, AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES.

CAN WE GO THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL SUMMARY ITEMS, PLEASE?

>> YES.

DO I HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR RESIDENTIAL ITEM 15, SPLIT RAIL.

RAISE YOUR HAND AND HIT STARâ€'9.

39 FIRE THORN PLACE.

110 EAST SAWYER RIDGE DRIVE.

66 BEACONS LIGHT PLACE.

OH, I DO HAVE SOMEBODY RAISING THEIR HAND.

HOLD ON.

CALLER ENDING IN 3437.

>> HI.

THIS IS FRANK TANNER FOR 39 FIRETHORN PLACE.

>> OKAY.

I BELIEVE YOU SPOKE TO STAFF AND THE MOTION WAS TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE.

ARE YOU STILL IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT MOTION?

>> WE ARE.

>> OKAY.

WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE SUMMARY ITEMS AND THEN THE COMMITTEE WILL ACT ON THOSE.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING?

>> CALLER: NO.

JUST HERE TO OBSERVE.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

>> I'M GOING TO MUTE YOU UNTIL THE END.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE ANOTHER ONE THAT RAISED THEIR HAND.

CALLER ENDING IN â€'â€' OH, I BELIEVE THEY DISAPPEARED.

OH.

IN 0831.

PLEASE UNMUTE.

YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.

0831.

HIT STARâ€'6 AND UNMUTE.

>> CALLER: HELLO, MA'AM.

>> WHAT ITEM ARE YOU CALLING IN REFERENCE TO?

>> CALLER: I'M SORRY.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH STARâ€'9 SINCE YOU WERE ON 5000 RESEARCH LANE.

I NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THERE WASN'T ANYTHING I NEEDED TO CALL ABOUT.

>> KIM, DID YOU HEAR THAT?

>> I DID.

LET ME GO TO THAT AGENDA ITEM.

>> CALLER: I APOLOGIZE.

I WAS TRYING TO HIT THE BUTTON AND IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK.

>> SO I UNDERSTAND FOR 5000 RESEARCH FOREST DRIVE, LONE STAR COLLEGE YOU RECEIVED

THE RECOMMENDED MOTION IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING FOR THE â€'â€' >> CALLER: CORRECT.

>>  â€'â€' CONDITIONS.

THE COMMITTEE HAS ACCEPTED THAT AS PRESENTED.

DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS IN REGARDS TO THE ITEMS OF CONDITION?

>> CALLER: NO.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU DIDN'T NEED ANYTHING ADDITIONAL FROM ME ON THAT PROJECT SINCE I'M THE CONTRACTOR, NOT THE LONE STAR COLLEGE.

>> NO, SIR.

WE'RE GOOD.

FOLLOWING THIS MEETING WE'LL START PROCESSING THE PERMIT SO THAT WILL GO TO YOU FOR LONE STAR COLLEGE.

>> CALLER: FANTASTIC.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.

>> CALLER: YOU, TOO.

>> OKAY.

LET'S CONTINUE.

DO I HAVE ANYBODY HERE FOR 110 EAST SAWYER RIDGE DRIVE? 66 BEACONS LIGHT? 31 GENESEE RIDGE.

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66 CAPRICE BIN PLACE.

18 TRELLIS GATE STREET.

3 STAR IRIS PLACE FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

I BELIEVE THERE IS SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA THAT'S IN REVIEW ALSO FOR THIS ADDRESS.

THERE'S A HAND RAISED.

HOLD ON A MINUTE.

CALLER ENDING IN 0353, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED.

PLEASE UNMUTE.

HIT STARâ€'6.

>> CALLER: CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS WILL HENDRICKS.

>> YES.

WHAT ITEM ARE YOU CALLING IN REFERENCE TO?

>> ITEM 18 FOR 3 STAR IRIS PLACE AND I THINK ITEM 33, THE TWO VARIANCE REQUESTS.

I SUBMITTED A BUNCH OF INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE.

I NEEDED TO KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ADDITIONAL YOU NEED.

>> ONE ITEM IS PLACED ON SUMMARY.

THAT IS THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

THE OTHER ITEM WAS PLACED ON REVIEW.

I'M NOT RECALLING EXACTLY WHAT THAT ITEM IS.

BUT THAT'S LATER ON IN THE AGENDA.

THE MOTION FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE WAS TO DISAPPROVE AND CONSENT TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT BASED ON THE EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT REQUIRING THE OWNER TO REMOVE THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

WHEN THE OWNER NO LONGER OWNS THE HOME, TRANSFERS TITLE OR IS NO LONGER THE PRIMARY RESIDENT OR WHEN THE STRUCTURE NEEDS REPLACEMENT, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST.

THE MEMORANDUM WILL BE RECORDED WITH THE COURTHOUSE AND IS BINDING ON THE LAND.

APPROVAL BY THIS COMMITTEE DOESN'T CONSTITUTE APPROVAL BY OTHER ENTITIES.

IT IS THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO OBTAIN.

IF DETERMINED NECESSARY BY EASEMENT HOLDERS.

ADDITIONALLY YOU ARE REQUIRED TO PLAN AND MAINTAIN EVER GREEN TREES AND SHRUBS TO SCREEN TO THE REAR OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT?

>> CALLER: I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANT.

CAN YOU SUMMARIZE IT FOR ME? THAT WAS A PLAY STRUCTURE WE HAD INSTALLED IN MARCH AFTER WE MOVED IN.

>> BASICALLY IT SAYS THAT PLAY STRUCTURE ENCROACHES INTO THE EASEMENT AND FOR YOU TO KEEP IT THERE, THE COMMITTEE IS ALLOWING YOU TO KEEP IT THERE AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO ENFORCE FOR YOU TO REMOVE IT OUT OF THE EASEMENT.

BUT THEY ARE REQUIRING YOU TO SIGN A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT THAT STATES THAT YOU WILL REMOVE IT FROM THE EASEMENT WHEN YOU SELL THE HOME, THE PLAY STRUCTURE IS IN DISREPAIR, OR YOU NO LONGER ARE THE PRIMARY RESIDENT.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

>> OKAY?

>> CALLER: OKAY.

SO WHEN I LEAVE THE HOME I HAVE TO REMOVE IT PRIOR TO SELL BUT IT'S OKAY TODAY.

>> THEY ARE REQUIRING YOU TO PLANT SOME EVERGREEN TREES OR SHRUBS TO SCREEN IT TO THE REAR.

>> CALLER: SCREEN IT TO THE REAR.

>> BECAUSE YOU ARE ENCROACHING ON THE EASEMENT.

OKAY?

>> CALLER: WITH THAT, IN THE TREES MAKE THE PLAY STRUCTURE UNSAFE BECAUSE THEY ARE GOING TO BE ENCROACHING ON THE PLAY STRUCTURE ARE THERE OTHER SOLUTIONS WE CAN DO FROM THAT?

>> WHY DON'T WE MOVE IT TO â€'â€' >> REVIEW.

>> THE REVIEW WITH THE OTHER ITEM.

>> OKAY.

WE'LL MOVE THAT TO REVIEW, SIR.

I'M GOING TO PUT YOU ON MUTE UNTIL YOUR ITEM IS UP ON THE AGENDA.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

THANK YOU GUYS.

>> THANK YOU.

OKAY.

THE NEXT ITEM IS THREE SHELL MARK PLACE.

IS ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THAT? 27 BRATENDALE PLACE.

14 GREEN VINE CIRCLE.

118 NORTH WILLOW POINT CIRCLE.

59 WEST GASLIGHT PLACE.

38 SHALLOW FORD PLACE.

6 CHESS WOOD MANOR DRIVE.

59 NORTH MARYWEATHER CIRCLE.

THAT'S ALL THE SUMMARY ITEMS I HAVE FOR RESIDENTIAL.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT RESIDENTIAL SUMMARY ITEMS?

>> SO MOVED AS PRESENTED BY STAFF.

>> WE DO HAVE OTHER RESIDENTIAL ITEMS THAT WERE NOT MENTIONED IN THE SUMMARY LIST.

I CAN GO THROUGH THOSE NOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> I'M SORRY.

I MISSED THOSE.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

>> YES.

>> JUST IN CASE ANYONE IS PRESENT.

IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ITEM 4, 18 NORTH TIMBER TOP DRIVE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY HITTING STARâ€'9.

IF YOU ARE HERE FOR 4 DEWTHREAD COURT, 7 LEISURE LANE, 11023 ELWOOD STREET.

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3015 NORTH MILLBEND DRIVE.

39 MARIBOU PLACE.

10 LEISURE LANE.

I THINK THAT IS THE END.

I THINK YOU STARTED ON SPLIT RAIL, DIDN'T YOU?

>> YES, I DID.

>> OKAY.

THOSE ITEMS. I DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WITH A HAND RAISED BUT I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY â€'â€' SAME NUMBER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I'M GOING TO LOWER THEIR HAND.

I DON'T SHOW I HAD ANYONE PRESENT.

BUT FOR THE RECORD I WANTED TO NOTE THOSE ITEMS WERE ALSO ON SUMMARY.

>> I SEE ANOTHER HAND RAISED.

>> OKAY.

>> CALLER ENDING IN 3441.

>> CALLER: HI.

THIS IS SERGIO ORTIZ.

I DIDN'T HEAR MY ITEM.

>> IT HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED YET.

IT'S LATER IN THE AGENDA.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

I'LL MUTE YOU UNTIL YOUR ITEM AND RAISE YOUR HAND AT THAT POINT IN TIME.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> MR. CHAIR WILL RESTATE THE ITEMS AS PRESENTED WITH THE EXCLUSION OF ITEM 18 WHICH WILL BE MOVED TO THE REVIEW ITEMS.

>> THANK YOU, ARTHUR.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE? JOHN, ANDERSON, ROBERT?

>> EVERYBODY'S ON MUTE.

>> THE AYES HAVE IT.

ALL RIGHT.

CAN WE MOVE DOWN TO NUMBER 7? CONSIDERATION AND ACTION OF THE COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS AND COVENANT VIOLATIONS.

WE'LL START WITH COMMERCIAL FIRST, PLEASE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

EVERYBODY SHOULD SEE A COVER SLIDE OF THE AGENDA.

WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B.

[VII.B. Consideration and action to allow the owner to pursue amending the Initial Land Use Designation. Lex Gen Woodlands LP / Lexicon Pharmaceuticals Inc. 8800 Technology Forest Place Lot 0240 Block 0547 Section 0000 Village of Research Forest]

HOPEFULLY EVERYONE CAN SEE THAT NOW.

>> I CAN.

>> GREAT.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE ITEM NUMBER B WHICH IS THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO ALLOW THE OWNER TO PURSUE AMENDING THE INITIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION FOR LEXICON PHARMACEUTICALS OR 8800 TECHNOLOGY FOREST BOULEVARD LOCATED HERE OFF OF TECHNOLOGY FOREST AND.

THIS IS AN AREA WITH SURROUNDING COMMERCIAL ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS WAS THE INITIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION BACK IN '94.

THE INDUSTRIAL AND OFFICE LAND USE ESTABLISHED 40,000 SQUARE FEET.

IT ALSO ESTABLISHED WHAT THE PROPERTY COULD BE USED FOR IN REGARDS TO THIS CONSTRUCTION AND USED FOR OFFICES, RESEARCH LABORATORIES, LIGHT MANUFACTURING, AND SO ON WITH DISCLAIMERS IN REGARDS TO NONPOLLUTING, NONMISSIVE, NOISE, DUST AND REASONABLE ODOR.

THERE WAS AN AMENDED LAND USE IN '94 AND BACK IN AUGUST.

THE VARIATION WAS INCREASING THE SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE AREA.

OTHER THAN THAT, NOTHING ELSE IN THE LAND USE CHANGED.

SINCE THEN THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST FOR AN AMENDED LAND USE AND THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT IS REPRESENTED HERE WITH CALLING TO YOUR ATTENTION THE PRIMARY COMPONENTS BEING ITEMS 1 THROUGH 4 KIND OF LIGHTLY HIGHLIGHTED WHERE THE REQUEST FOR THE AMENDED LAND USE RELATES TO MODIFICATIONS OF PERMITTED USE DESIGNATION, TERMINATED AND RELEASED AND OF NO FURTHER FORCE OR EFFECT AND LOOKING AT THE SECOND COMPONENT NOTWITHSTANDING ANYTHING IN THIS TO THE CONTRARY IN ADDITION TO THE USES PERMITTED THE PROPERTY MAY BE USED FOR LIGHT MANUFACTURING INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO MANUFACTURING OF PHARMACEUTICALS.

THERE WAS SOME ORIGINAL MANUFACTURING THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, BUT THE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO AND THE MANUFACTURING OF PHARMACEUTICALS AS WELL AS THE OTHER COMPONENTS REPRESENTED HERE ARE SOME OF THOSE MODIFICATIONS.

WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE APPLICANT THAT THEY HAVE BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE WOODLANDS LAND DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND WE DO HAVE AN Eâ€'MAIL FROM THEIR GENERAL COUNSEL IDENTIFYING THAT THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATION, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THERE MAY BE SOME NEED FOR MODIFICATIONS IN THE LANGUAGE AND I WILL GO AHEAD AND LET YOUR LEGAL COUNSEL, BRET STRONG SPEAK IN REGARD TO THOSE MODIFICATIONS.

BEFORE I MOVE TO BRET DO I HAVE CALLERS IN THE QUEUE CALLING IN REGARDS TO COMMERCIAL ITEM B, 8800 TECHNOLOGY FOREST PLACE? THIS IS FOR THE LEXICON PHARMACEUTICALS LOCATION.

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IF YOU ARE CALLING IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY HITTING STARâ€'9 ON YOUR PHONE.

I DON'T SHOW WE HAVE CALLERS PRESENT FOR THIS.

SO I WILL DEFER TO BRET.

>> THANK YOU, KIM.

LET ME EXPLAIN â€'â€' I HAD A CALL WITH KIM AND HENNIE TO GO OVER THESE MATERIALS.

BASICALLY THE CONFUSION HERE THAT NEEDS TO BE CLEARED UP, AND I HAVE TALKED TO COUNSEL FOR HOWARD HUGHES RELATED TO THIS, IS THAT THESE ARE OVERLAPPING TRACTS.

IF YOU LOOK AT ITEM ONE AND TWO YOU HAVE A 6.1797.

THERE IS AN ILUD AS KIM OUTLINED PROVIDED FOR THAT TRACT GOING BACK TO I BELIEVE 94 â€'â€' IN THE '90S.

THEN THERE IS A SECOND TRACT WHICH IS 6.767 ACRES WHICH INCLUDES THE 6.1 PLUS AN ADDITIONAL APPROXIMATELY HALF ACRE.

WHAT HAPPENED WAS THOSE TWO TRACTS HAD DIFFERING PERMITTED USES AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO GET DONE HERE IS MAKING THE PERMITTED USES CONSISTENT ACROSS THE ENTIRETY OF THE TRACT.

ALSO, I WOULD SAY THIS THAT THE ENTIRE TRACT IS ABOUT 12 ACRES, I BELIEVE, HALF OF WHICH IS NOT SUBJECT TO THE DSC.

I THINK HALF OF IT IS IN THE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS AND HALF IS IN THE WCA â€'â€' SORRY, COVENANTS AND STANDARDS.

MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE COMMITTEE TABLE THIS BECAUSE NANCY FAIRFIELD WAS OF AGREEMENT THAT I NEED TO TALK TO THEIR OUTSIDE COUNSEL BRET BEATTY AND CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE.

IT IS NOT CLEAR THESE ARE OVERLAPPING TRACTS AND WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO.

I SUGGEST IT BE TABLED AND PUT ON THE AGENDA NEXT MEETING.

BY THEN WE'LL HAVE A CLARIFICATION ON THE LANGUAGE.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU, BRET.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR BRET?

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION?

>> THIS IS BOB ADAMS. I'LL MAKE A MOTION WE TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL LEGAL COUNSEL CAN COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE LANGUAGE NEEDED.

>> ROBERT, SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, BRET.

>> I ACTUALLY SHOW THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF YOUR COMMERCIAL ITEMS AND YOU CAN NOW MOVE INTO YOUR RESIDENTIAL ITEMS. STARTING WITH RESIDENTIAL ITEM NUMBER ONE.

IF YOU'LL GIVE ME JUST ONE SECOND TO CATCH UP SO I HAVE THAT ON MY SCREEN.

THE NEXT ITEM IS ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION REGARDING A PROPOSED

[VIII.1. Consideration and action regarding a proposed garage addition that may negatively impact neighboring properties, and may not be architecturally compatible with the neighborhood, specifically the mass, scale and proportion of the addition Steve Riggle 42 Bellweather Court Lot 11, Block 01, Section 46 Village of Panther Creek]

GARAGE ADDITION THAT MAY HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND MAY NOT BE CONSIDERED ARCHITECTURALLY COMPATIBLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPECIFICALLY IN REGARDS TO MASS, SCALE, AND PROPORTION OF THE ADDITION.

THIS IS AT THE RIGGLE RESIDENCE AT 42 BELLWEATHER COURT.

I ANTICIPATE SOME OF THE CALLERS MAY BE CALLING IN REGARDS TO THIS ITEM.

SO IF YOU ARE THE HOMEOWNER OF 42 BELLWEATHER COURT, IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND SO I CAN IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE ON THE AGENDA OR IN THE CALLERS' LIST.

IF YOU ARE ALSO AN INTERESTED PARTY CALLING IN AND WISHES TO SPEAK TO THE COMMITTEE ON THIS ITEM, IF YOU ALSO WOULD GO AHEAD AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

AFTER I COMPLETE THE PRESENTATION AND THE COMMITTEE'S QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO CALL UPON YOU.

I SHOW THAT I HAVE ONE CALLER'S HAND RAISED.

OKAY.

42 BELLWEATHER.

WE DID ASK THE OWNER TO SUBMIT NEIGHBOR COMMUNICATION FORMS TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

HERE IS THE REPRESENTATION ON THE MAP OF THE OWNER AND THE FORMS SENT TO ADJACENT HOMES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES.

AS YOU ARE AWARE A LOT OF RESPONSES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR WORKSHEET AGENDA AND SEPARATELY FROM THAT AGENDA WE ALSO SENT AN Eâ€'MAIL WITH AN EXHIBIT TO THE COMMITTEE SO YOU WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE LETTERS WHICH ARE REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP IDENTIFYING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE IN FAVOR OR APPROVING OF THE ITEM, THE ONES THAT HAVE NOTED OPPOSITION, AND THEN AN INDIVIDUAL WHO REALLY JUST CALLED TO INQUIRE AND SHARE CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THE IMPROVEMENT.

THOSE ARE IDENTIFIED HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW ON BELLWEATHER.

PRIMARILY CONSISTING OF BELLWEATHER AND RACE CLOUD.

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IN ADDITION TO THAT WE HAD A PETITIONING THE THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE STAFF.

HERE IS A COPY OF THAT PETITION SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXAMPLE AS WELL AS THE PETITION NOTING THAT IT WAS SIGNED BY INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED GARAGE ADDITION.

SO EACH OF THESE REPRESENTATIONS IS THE INDIVIDUALS WHO SIGNED THAT POSITION â€'â€' THAT PETITION.

HERE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER ON WHICH THE IMPROVEMENT IS PROPOSED.

THE HOMEOWNER WAS MADE AWARE OF THE PETITION THROUGH ONE OF THE NEIGHBORS AND HE WANTED TO PROVIDE A RESPONSE TO THE COMMITTEE WHICH WE DID INFORM HIM WE WOULD GO AHEAD AND INCLUDE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW.

WE RECEIVED THIS THIS AFTERNOON AND KNOWING HOW DIFFICULT THE DELAY TIME THERE CAN BE WITH THE PRESENTATION WE WENT AHEAD AND INCORPORATED THIS FOR HIM.

HIS PRIMARY CONCERN WAS HE WASN'T AWARE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING WHERE THE PETITION WAS SIGNED.

HE HAS A REQUEST TO REVIEW THE PETITION.

HE DOES FEEL THAT IT IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER THE PETITION IF EVERYONE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WASN'T NOTIFIED OF THE MEETING.

HE ALSO QUESTIONS THE INVOLVEMENT OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION WHICH IS SEPARATE FOR THAT BELLWEATHER AREA.

HE HAS IDENTIFIED A REQUEST THROUGH PUBLIC RECORDS.

JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY HIS INFORMATION CONCERNING THE PETITION ITSELF AND THE FAIRNESS OF THAT WITH HIM NOT BEING INVOLVED OR TO PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN HIS IMPROVEMENT.

HERE IS THE VIEW OF 42 BELLWEATHER AT THE END OF THE CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC BACKING UP TO LAKE WOODLANDS.

LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY HERE, YOU HAVE THE HOME AND THE DRY.

AS YOU EXTEND PAST THE DRIVEWAY THERE IS AN AREA WITH A PROPOSED GARAGE ADDITION, SOMEWHAT ADJACENT TO THE POOL.

THAT'S IS CURRENT PROPOSAL WITH EXISTING PAVING IN THIS AREA TO EXTEND TO THAT GARAGE.

THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE HOME AND HOW IT SITS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

THE TWO PROPERTIES ON EACH SIDE DID SUBMIT CONCERNS OBJECTING TO THE IMPROVEMENT.

THE IMPROVEMENT DOES MEET THE HARD SURFACE.

THERE IS NOT AN ISSUE WITH THE HARD SURFACE ON THE LOT; HOWEVER WE DID WANT TO PROVIDE THIS TO YOU SO YOU WERE AWARE THAT HARD SURFACE IS REMAINING IN COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR CRITERIA.

THEN YOU HAVE YOUR SITE PLAN WHICH ESTABLISHES THE EXISTING HOME AS WELL AS THE ADDITION TO THE SIDE AND REAR OF THE DRIVEWAY.

YOU HAVE YOUR FIRST FLOOR PLAN, YOUR SECOND FLOOR PLAN, YOUR ELECTRICAL PLAN AND I'LL GO THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.

THEN YOUR ELEVATION.

SO THIS IS THE VIEW OF THE FRONT AS SEEN FROM THE STREET AND THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW IN THE BACKYARD IF YOU ARE LOOKING FROM LAKE WOODLANDS.

LOOKING TO YOUR RIGHT AND LEFTâ€'HAND SIDE THE LEFTâ€'HAND SIDE IS THE GARAGE ADDITION ITSELF AND ITS PROXIMITY TO THE NEIGHBORING â€'â€' I'M SORRY.

THIS RIGHT ELEVATION IS THE ONE TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY WHERE THE GARAGE ADDITION IS PRIMARILY FOCUSED.

YOUR ROOF PLAN FOR THE GARAGE ADDITION, CEILING FRAMING, FOUNDATION, AND THEN HERE IS THE VIEW OF THAT HOME GIVING YOU THE FRONT ELEVATION SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THE AREA WHERE THIS GARAGE ADDITION IS PROPOSED WHICH IS THE AREA SET BACK PAST THIS CAR.

THIS GARAGE ADDITION HERE IS THE SUBMISSION THAT YOU SEE OF THE EXISTING GARAGE.

THERE IS ALSO A HOOKâ€'IN GARAGE WHICH YOU WILL SEE IN FUTURE PHOTOS FOR YOUR REVIEW.

THE FOLLOWING PHOTOS WERE PROVIDED BY THE HOMEOWNER FOR THE COMMITTEE TO REVIEW REPRESENTING THE AREA WHERE HE WISHES TO HAVE HIS ADDITION LOOKING MORE CLOSEâ€'UP FROM THE DRIVEWAY IT WOULD BE AT THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY PAVING THAT WAS ADDED IN FRONT OF THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THE ADDITION.

A MORE CLOSEâ€'UP VIEW OF THE AREA WITH THE END OF THE ADDITION BEING TEN FEET AWAY FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER'S LOT.

HERE IS THE VIEW OF THE MAP TO GIVE YOU A REPRESENTATION OF WHERE THIS PHOTO WAS BEING TAKEN.

A BIT MORE OF A CLOSEâ€'UP VIEW TO THE HOUSE.

LOOKING TO THE NEIGHBORING SIDE WALL, A CLOSEâ€'UP VIEW OF WHERE THE ADDITION WOULD BE LOCATED.

LOOKING AT AN OVERVIEW FROM THE OWNER'S SECOND STORY OR JUST ABOVE YOU CAN SEE THE TENâ€'FOOT MARK BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES.

THEN THESE ARE THE PHOTOS TAKEN BY STAFF OF THE AREA WHERE IT'S TO BE LOCATED TO TRY AND GIVE YOU AN OVERALL PERSPECTIVE OF WHERE THAT ADDITION WILL BE.

LOOKING TO THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY, AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE ELEVATION DRAWING HERE THIS IS THAT AREA WITH THE ADDITION COMING IN FRONT OF THAT.

HERE'S THE HOOKâ€'IN GARAGE THAT WE HAD MENTIONED AS WELL AS THE ONE THAT IS SEEN FROM THE STREET.

THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE ADDITION BACK HERE SOMEWHAT IN THE GRASSY AREA BETWEEN

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THE DRIVE AND THE POOL.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE VIEWS THAT WERE PROVIDED FROM THE ADJACENT PROPERTY WHICH IS AT 38 BELLWEATHER AND LOOKING TOWARD 42.

THIS IS TO GIVE YOU THE PROXIMITY BETWEEN THE PROPERTIES AND THE EXISTING VEGETATION.

PRIMARILY THE VEGETATION BEING FROM 38 BELLWEATHER.

THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THE MAP AND DETERMINE WHERE THE PHOTO IS BEING TAKEN BY THE STAFF.

WE'LL GO THROUGH THOSE FROM YOUR 38 BELLWEATHER PATIO.

NOW YOU ARE IN THE AT RUM AREA LOOKING TOWARD THE GARAGE ADDITION.

THIS IS PART OF THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN IN REGARDS TO THE VISIBILITY OF THE ADDITION, THE ADDITION COMPROMISING THE LIGHT AND VISIBILITY RECEIVED FROM THE AT RUM AREA OF THEIR PROPERTY.

LOOKING FROM 42 BELLWEATHER AT THE PROPERTY OF 38 BELLWEATHER, THIS IS THE AT RUM AREA THAT YOU SEE.

THERE ARE ALSO WINDOWS AT THE TOP WINDOWS ABOVE THE ATRIUM AREA INTO THE HOME WHICH THE OWNER EXPRESSES IS A GREAT PART OF THE SUNLIGHT THAT COMES IN AND IS CONCERNED WOULD BE COMPROMISED IF THIS WERE TO BE MODIFIED.

HERE ARE OTHER PATIOâ€'STYLE HOMES IN BELLWEATHER COURT SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE AREA.

RACING CLOUD DID HAVE A GARAGE ADDITION ADDED IN 2018 AND THEN THESE WERE PHOTOS SUBMITTED BY THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR, THE AFFECTED NEIGHBOR AT 38 BELLWEATHER.

THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THEIR ROOF SHOWING THE AREA WHERE THE IMPROVEMENT IS TO BE LOCATED.

THE VIEW BETWEEN THE TWO HOMES SHOWING THE PROXIMITY OF THE HOMES AND THE VIEW ALREADY EXISTING OF THESE HOUSES AND CONCERNS OF THE GARAGE ADDITION TO BE ADDED TO THE AREA.

THESE ARE VIEWS FROM THE ATRIUM AREA AT 38 BELLWEATHER.

HERE IS THE ATRIUM AREA AS WELL.

THE CONCERN OF THE NEIGHBOR AT 38 BELLWEATHER IS THAT THE PROPOSED STRUCTURE AT 42 WOULD TAKE AWAY THE NATURAL LIGHTING THAT'S PROVIDED BY VARIOUS WINDOWS THROUGHOUT THEIR HOME AND FROM THEIR ATRIUM AREA.

THE ATRIUM AREA IS REPRESENTED HERE.

THIS IS THE OUTSIDE OF THE ATRIUM AREA.

THESE ARE THE WINDOWS THAT YOU SAW ABOVE.

SO WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING OUT THIS WINDOW AREA HERE, THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS THE FENCE AT 42 BELLWEATHER WHERE YOU WOULD SEE THE GARAGE ADDITION OCCURRING.

THESE ARE MORE PHOTOS OF THE INTERIOR OF THE HOME FOR 38 BELLWEATHER PROVIDED BY 38 BELLWEATHER BECAUSE THEIR CONCERN IS THIS WOULD ALSO TAKE AWAY A LOT OF NATURAL LIGHTING THAT THEY HAVE FROM MANY OF THE WINDOWS THAT FACE OUT TO WHERE THE PROPOSED GARAGE ADDITION IS TO BE LOCATED.

ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE ATRIUM LOOKING OUT TO 42 BELLWEATHER AS REPRESENTED HERE.

THEN THIS IS THE ATRIUM ITSELF.

THE OWNER DID WANT TO PUT TOGETHER THE DEFINITION OF ATRIUM AND ARCHITECTURE AND PROVIDE THAT TO THE COMMITTEE.

IN ORDER FOR YOU GUYS TO READ THAT WE DID GO AHEAD AND INCREASE THE SIZE SO THAT YOU CAN REVIEW THE DEFINITION AND IDENTIFY THE CONCERNS WITH HOW MUCH THIS WILL IMPACT THE ATRIUM AS THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR 38 BELLWEATHER HAS DESCRIBED.

THIS IS HERE FOR YOUR REVIEW.

THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE ATRIUM IS REALLY PART OF THE COMPONENT THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE HOUSE AT 38.

SO THEY DO HAVE CONCERNS THAT THAT IS COMPROMISED WITH THE PROPOSED ADDITION.

WE DID ALSO HAVE A GARAGE ADDITION PROVIDED IN 2018.

THAT WAS DISAPPROVED BY THE PANTHER CREEK RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THE OWNER DIDN'T PROCEED WITH A REQUEST AT THAT TIME.

THERE WERE SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS FROM THOSE PROPOSALS TO THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL.

I DO HAVE THOSE IF YOU GUYS NEED TO REVIEW THEM.

BUT THE 2018 PROPOSAL NEVER CAME FORWARD.

SO THE FOCUS TONIGHT IS OF THE CURRENT PROPOSAL AND THAT GARAGE ADDITION.

I SHOW ONE HAND RAISED.

DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> NOT AT THIS TIME, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO.

>> KIM, IS THE HOMEOWNER PRESENT?

>> I'M NOT SURE IF IT IS THE HOMEOWNER OR AN AFFECTED NEIGHBOR BUT I CAN ENGAGE THEM AND SEE.

CALLER ENDING IN 7728.

I SEE THAT YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

IF YOU CAN â€'â€' ARE YOU THERE?

>> CALLER: YES.

MY NAME IS PEGGY INGRAM.

I'M MR. RIGGLE'S NEIGHBOR.

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>> I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE HOMEOWNER FIRST IF HE'S PRESENT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IF THE HOMEOWNER FOR 42 BELLWEATHER, MR. RIGGLE, IS PRESENT ON THE CALL, IF YOU WILL HIT STARâ€'9 SO WE CAN IDENTIFY YOU.

NES, YOU CAN CHECK, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE I SEE HANDS RAISED OTHER THAN THIS ONE.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> NO.

I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER HAND RAISED EXCEPT FOR MS. INGRAM.

>> DURING THE PRESENTATION I ONLY SAW THE ONE HAND.

I CAN CONNECT WITH THE AFFECTED NEIGHBOR IF YOU WOULD LIKE.

>> OKAY.

LET'S HEAR FROM THE AFFECTED NEIGHBOR THEN.

>> OKAY.

MRS. INGRAM, THE CALLER IS 7728.

OKAY, YOU UNMUTED YOUR PHONE.

YOU ARE AVAILABLE TO SPEAK WITH THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS COMMITTEE.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

MY NAME IS PEGGY INGRAM.

I AM MR. RIGGLE'S NEIGHBOR.

I HAVE LIVED IN THE WOODLANDS SINCE 1978.

I LIVED FORMERLY IN A PATIO HOME AS WELL.

I LIVE AT 38 BELLWEATHER COURT IN THE ENCLAVE ON THE COVE.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE ADDITION IS LARGE AND WOULD TAKE UP ALL OF THE REMAINING GRASS AND YARD ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MR. RIGGLE'S HOME.

IT WILL PROTRUDE TO THE NINE FOOT EASEMENT ON THAT SIDE.

WHEN THE INITIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION WAS PREPARED FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE WERE LIMITED TO 3800 SQUARE FEET.

WE ARE A PATIO HOME SUBDIVISION WITH STRICT RULES AND REGULATIONS.

MR. RIGGLE HAS ALREADY EXPANDED HIS HOME ONCE BEFORE ADDING TO HIS OVERALL HOME.

I BELIEVE IT'S CLOSE TO 4300 SQUARE FEET.

THE NEW GARAGE WILL ADD TO WHAT IS ALREADY AN OVERSIZED RESIDENCE DISPROPORTIONATE IN SIZE TO THE OTHER HOMES.

IT ALSO REPRESENTS A COMPLETE DEVIATION FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN CONCEPT WHERE A ZERO LOT LINE HOMES WITH AN ATRIUM AND A SMALL PATIO ON THE LOT LINE SIDE.

MY ATRIUM WHICH WILL BE DIRECTLY IMPACTED IS ACROSS FROM THE NEW GARAGE.

IT'S MY ONLY SOURCE OF LIGHT ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

I HAVE PROVIDED PICTURES TO YOU, AS YOU HAVE SEEN, FROM MY WRITTEN SUBMISSION SHOWING THAT MY LIGHT WILL BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED.

MOREOVER THE GARAGE WILL INTRODUCE NOISE INTO MY HOME AS CARS WILL BE INGRESSING AND EGRESSING THROUGHOUT THE AREA IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO MY ATRIUM AND THE WINDOWS.

HIS GARAGE DOOR WILL BASICALLY BE IN MY ATRIUM.

THE TRAFFIC WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE PEACEFULNESS OF MY HOME WHICH I CHERISH.

ALTHOUGH I AM PROBABLY THE MOST AFFECTED, I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON SIGNIFICANTLY OPPOSED TO THIS GARAGE ADDITION.

I HAVE COLLECTED MULTIPLE SIGNATURES AND SUBMITTED THEM AS YOU HAVE SHOWN.

IT REPRESENTS A MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

25 OUT OF THE 43 HOMES.

THEY DO NOT SUPPORT THIS PLAN.

I HAVE LIVED IN THE ENCLAVE, AS I SAID, FOR 20 YEARS.

THE RESIDENTS HERE LOVE OUR DEVELOPMENT FOR THE SERENITY AND THE APPEARANCE OF SECURITY AND THE APPEARANCE CONSTANTLY OF A PEACEFULNESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

NO ONE ELSE HAS AN OUTBUILDING THE SIZE OF THIS AND THE EASEMENT.

MY HOME'S APPEARANCE WILL BE CHANGED FOR ALL THE YEARS.

IT WILL BE RADICALLY CHANGED.

I HAVE SUBMITTED PHOTOS TO ILLUSTRATE THE SALIENT POINTS.

THIS IS MY FOREVER HOME AND I WANT IT PRESERVED.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HEARING ME OUT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> YES.

CURRENTLY THEY HAVE A TWOâ€'CAR GARAGE, IS THAT CORRECT?

>> CALLER: YES.

THEY HAVE A THREEâ€'CAR GARAGE.

>> THEY CURRENTLY HAVE A THREEâ€'CAR GARAGE?

>> CALLER: YES.

>> THIS NEW PROPOSAL, HOW MANY SPACES IS IN THIS GARAGE?

>> CALLER: THAT'S OPEN.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

IT'S NOT DESIGNATED.

>> OH.

>> WALT, I HAVE A QUESTION.

>> IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE ON THE LINE, KIM, TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC?

>> NO, SIR.

I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ON THE LINE.

>> KIM, YOU MENTIONED THERE'S A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION.

WHAT'S THE POSITION OF THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND DOES THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION HAVE STANDARDS REVIEW IN THEIR COVENANTS?

>> WE DID CHECK ON THAT.

WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY POSITION FROM THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, NOR DO THEY PROVIDE ANY KIND OF ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO THEY HAVE MADE NO COMMENT AND THEY DON'T HAVE ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW WITHIN THEIR COVENANTS.

>> CORRECT.

AND THEN TO ANSWER MARY'S QUESTION, THERE IS A TWOâ€'CAR GARAGE THAT FACES THE FRONT OF THE HOME AND THERE IS A ONEâ€'CAR GARAGE WHICH IS THE HOOKâ€'IN GARAGE â€'â€' I'M SORRY.

I'M LOOKING AT THE WRONG THING.

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YOU HAVE THE TWO GARAGES HERE AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE PROPOSED GARAGE.

THE PROPOSED GARAGE ADDITION HAS A UNIQUE DESIGN.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 18 FEET AS AN OPENING OF THE GARAGE DOOR, TWO FEET ON EACH SIDE OF THAT WHICH IS THE COLUMNS AT THE FRONT.

BUT THEN IT EXPANDS IN THIS AREA SO YOU HAVE AN ABILITY TO STORE MORE THAN TWO VEHICLES IN THIS AREA.

IT IS OUR UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING WITH THE HOMEOWNER THAT THE AREA HERE IS FOR A COLLECTION OF ANTIQUE CARS THAT THE OWNER HAS TO BE STORED IN THIS ADDITION.

HOWEVER, HOW MANY, I AM NOT SURE OF.

THAT GARAGE ADDITION DOES ALSO INCLUDE A POOL BATH AT THE REAR AND A SMALL CLOSET WITH THE OVERALL SPECS BEING 30 BY 32.

YOUR OPENING IS 18 FEET.

>> THE WHOLE PROJECT PRESENTS ITSELF AS MASS SCALE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE STANDARD.

IT DEFINITELY BLOCKS NATURAL LIGHT AND BLOCKS THE VIEW TO THE LAKE.

SO IT REALLY DISTORTS THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF WHAT THIS ENCLAVE WAS DESIGNED FOR, IN MY PERSPECTIVE.

>> I THINK YOU HAVE A POINT THERE, ARTHUR.

I THINK THAT GARAGE DOOR IS, WHAT, 18 FEET WIDE, BUT THE TOTAL WIDTH IS 41 FEET ACROSS.

IS THAT RIGHT, KIM?

>> CORRECT.

YOUR TOTAL WIDTH IF YOU ARE MEASURING HERE ACROSS IS â€'â€' >> I THOUGHT I READ IT IN THE DESCRIPTION IT WAS 41 FEET BY 39 FEET.

>> CORRECT.

>> THAT'S PRETTY MASSIVE.

>> HE'S ACTUALLY MAKING A SMALL HOUSE FOR CARS AT THE END OF THE DAY.

>> THE 41 MEASUREMENT IS THE OVERALL WIDTH FROM HERE TO HERE.

IT VARIES OBVIOUSLY.

>> KIM, I NOTICED THERE IS ANOTHER HAND RAISED.

>> EXCELLENT.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER HAND RAISED.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND ENGAGE THAT CALL?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> LET'S SEE.

CALLER ENDING IN 8368.

ARE YOU CALLING IN REGARDS TO 42 BELLWEATHER COURT? AND I SHOW CALLER ENDING IN 8368 IS MUTED.

IF YOU HIT STARâ€'6 IT WILL UNMUTE YOU.

THAT'S FOR CALLER ENDING IN 8368.

>> CALLER: AM I UNMUTED NOW?

>> YES, SIR, YOU ARE.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

I'M STEVE RIGGLE, THE HOMEOWNER.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S MY PHONE OR WHAT.

I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO PUSH THE BUTTONS AND IT JUST DIDN'T WORK.

I JUST NOW GOT THE CALL TO GO THROUGH.

I APOLOGIZE.

SHOULD I GO AHEAD?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

WELL, THREE OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE COME OVER TO ACTUALLY TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THE GARAGE IS AND WHERE THE ATRIUM IS OF MY NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR.

WHEN THEY SAW ACTUALLY WHERE THE GARAGE IS LOCATED, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY HAD BEEN TOLD, BUT WHEN THEY SAW THAT THEY REALIZED THAT IT'S NOT REALLY BLOCKING HER LIGHT OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE.

SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE â€'â€' YOU KNOW, THIS IS â€'â€' THIS GARAGE WILL HOLD ABOUT THREE CARS.

THE SIDE GARAGE IS VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO GET A CAR IN BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THAT GARAGE AND THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.

AND IT IS FOR SOME CARS THAT I HAVE.

WE HAVE â€'â€' THE ARCHITECT LOOKED AT THIS FROM ALL OF THE ANGLES TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE WAS COMPATIBLE WITH THE HOUSE AND THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF THAT.

AND EVERYTHING FITS WITHIN OUR SETâ€'BACKS.

IT DOESN'T VIOLATE ANY EASEMENTS, ANY OF THAT KIND OF THING.

AND THE GARAGE ITSELF, THE GARAGE DOOR IS 90 FEET OFF THE STREET.

AS FAR AS LAKE VIEWS, THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT COULD SEE THE LAKE FROM THAT SIDE OF

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MY HOUSE WOULD BE US.

YOU CAN'T SEE IT FROM THE STREET.

IT WOULD JUST BE US IN OUR SIDE YARD.

THIS LOT IS A PIEâ€'SHAPED LOT, SO IT HAS â€'â€' THERE'S JUST A HANDFUL â€'â€' TWO OR THREE LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT HAVE THE KIND OF REAR WIDTH THAT WE HAVE ON THIS LOT.

SO IT JUST PRESENTS A UNIQUE SITUATION HERE.

I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS I COULD.

I SENT ALL OF THOSE THINGS OUT.

I WAS OUT OF THE CITY.

I CAME IN LAST SATURDAY AND THE NEIGHBOR CAME OVER, TOLD ME A PETITION HAD BEEN CIRCULATED AND SIGNED.

AS FAR AS I KNOW, NO ONE HAS â€'â€' I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL IS ON THAT PETITION BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF SOMETHING WAS SENT TO EVERY HOMEOWNER IN THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OR IF THERE WAS A HOMEOWNERS MEETING.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

I WASN'T NOTIFIED OF ANYTHING.

I WOULD HAVE BEEN GLAD TO HAVE ANYBODY COME OVER, TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THIS GARAGE IS.

AS FAR AS ANY CARS, I ALREADY HAVE A DRIVEWAY RIGHT BESIDE THAT ATRIUM ANYWAY IN REGARD TO THIS HOUSE.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST SAY THIS AND THEN I'LL BE DONE.

WHEN WE ADDED ON TO OUR HOUSE WE ADDED SIX FEET TO THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE IN THE KITCHEN AREA.

THAT WAS OPPOSED.

THERE WERE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THEN.

MISINFORMATION WAS PUT OUT AT THAT TIME.

AND I JUST QUESTION WHETHER THAT'S NOT WHAT HAPPENED THIS TIME.

IF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING ME HAD REALLY WANTED TO KNOW WHAT THIS WAS THEY HAD MY PHONE NUMBER AND THEY HAD MY Eâ€'MAIL AND I WOULD HAVE MET WITH ANY OF THEM PERSONALLY OR ALL OF THEM.

BUT NONE OF THAT HAPPENED.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT ELSE TO SAY.

ANYWAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> AND THEN, WALT, WHILE WE HAVE THE HOMEOWNER ON THE LINE, I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THE COMMITTEE HAD WAS THE INTENT OF THE CARS THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THIS AREA.

DO YOU WANT THE HOMEOWNER TO ANSWER NUMBER OF CARS OR SITUATION OF THE CARS IN THE ADDITION? I KNOW THE GARAGE IS KIND OF A UNIQUE DESIGN.

HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN I CAN.

>> CALLER: YEAH.

IT WILL HOLD THREE CARS.

>> AND THE LOT WOULD HAVE A TOTAL OF SIX CARS?

>> CALLER: YEAH, IF YOU USED THE LITTLE SIDE GARAGE.

BUT IT'S REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET A CAR IN THERE.

>> IT MAY BE DIFFICULT BUT IT IS RATED FOR HOLDING ONE CAR, CORRECT, SIR?

>> CALLER: YES.

YES.

>> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> I DID JUST REMEMBER, AND I WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND MENTION THIS.

ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS REPRESENTING THE OWNER â€'â€' I'M SORRY, THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER, INGRAM, DID PROVIDE US WITH AN UPDATED PETITION CIRCULATED TO THE COMMITTEE ALTHOUGH IT WAS CIRCULATED AROUND 4:57 THIS EVENING BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN IT WAS RECEIVED.

IT IS A SECOND PAGE OF SIGNATURES AND THEY IDENTIFIED THAT THE OPPOSITION PETITION HAS AN ADDITIONAL FIVE SIGNATURES ON IT BRINGING IT TO A TOTAL OF 25 HOMES.

WE DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADD THOSE TO YOUR MAP THAT WAS SHOWN.

BUT THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL FIVE ACCORDING TO THE Eâ€'MAIL THAT WAS FORWARDED TO THE COMMITTEE THAT WAS RECEIVED THIS EVENING.

>> OKAY.

HAVE WE ALLOWED THIS AT ANY OTHER RULINGS IN THE PAST? I MEAN, I KNOW OVER â€'â€' THERE'S SOME PRETTY BIG LOTS THERE COMPARED TO THESE LOTS.

>> CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? HOW VISIBLE IS THIS TO LAKE WOODLANDS? I SEE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, SMALL BOATS OUT THERE AND A LOT OF PADDLEBOARDING AND SO FORTH.

WHERE IS THIS SITUATED â€'â€' I MEAN LAKE WOODLANDS â€'â€' THEY BACK UP TO LAKE WOODLANDS, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

THIS IS THE LAKE.

IF YOU WERE ON THE LAKE AND LOOKED AT THE POOL, THIS WOULD BE THE GARAGE ADDITION FROM WHERE YOU'RE AT BEHIND THE POOL.

THE BEST PHOTO OF THAT FOR YOU, MARY, IS GOING TO BE â€'â€' >> I MEAN â€'â€' YEAH.

>> BEAR WITH ME.

>> IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WOODLANDS PARKWAY, ISN'T IT?

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>> NO, NOT LAKE WOODLANDS DRIVE.

THE ACTUAL LAKE.

>> NO, BUT THEY'RE CLOSE TO â€'â€' THEY'RE BETWEEN â€'â€' CLOSE TO WOODLANDS PARKWAY, RIGHT? I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEY ARE.

>> IT'S ON THE LITTLE COVE THAT STICKS OUT THAT YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU COME ACROSS.

>> OKAY.

I DO HAVE ONE VIEW THAT I KNOW WAS TAKEN FROM THE WATER IF I CAN FIND IT.

HERE.

PERHAPS THAT'S NOT THE BEST ANGLE BECAUSE IT WOULD BE BEHIND 38.

IT WOULD BE VERY VISIBLE FROM THE LAKE IF YOU WERE LOOKING THROUGH THE POOL AREA.

THE LAKE IS SOMEWHAT SET DOWN FROM THE PROPERTY.

>> WOULD IT BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET?

IF SOMEONE â€'â€' >> THAT'S A UNIQUE ONE.

LET ME GO TO THE BEST PHOTO FOR THAT.

WE DID GET SOME CLOSEâ€'UP VIEWS.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING FROM THE CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC, THIS WOULD BE YOUR VIEW AND IT WOULD â€'â€' WHERE THOSE TWO CARS WERE WAS HERE.

IT STARTS WHERE THE WROUGHT IRON IS.

>> RIGHT.

>> WE DID GET PHOTOS NOT FROM THE HOMEOWNER THAT DO SHOW THE AREA HERE WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED.

BUT WHEN YOU ARE LOOKING FROM THE HOME, THE HOME IS AT A UNIQUE ANGLE.

SO IT IS SOMEWHAT SET BACK.

HERE IS THE FIRST HOOKâ€'IN.

HERE'S THE NEXT.

IT WOULD BE BEHIND THAT â€'â€' PAST WHERE YOU SEE THIS CAR PARKED.

>> RIGHT.

BUT IF I'M STANDING IN THE STREET AND LOOKING IN, ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A WALL.

VERSUS THE OTHER PICTURE YOU SHOWED JUST STANDING AT THE EDGE OF THE DRIVEWAY LOOKING IN, I CAN SEE THE LAKE.

>> RIGHT.

CURRENTLY IF YOU KEEP WALKING UP THE DRIVEWAY YOU'LL EVENTUALLY JUST SEE THE POOL AND THE PATIO AREA OF THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

THIS WOULD THEN BECOME THE GARAGE ADDITION WITH THE GARAGE DOORS BEING RIGHT HERE AT THE FRONT.

>> RIGHT.

SO BASICALLY CONSTRUCTING A WALL THAT WOULD BLOCK THE VIEW, LIGHT, AND REALLY DISTORT THE INTENT â€'â€' BECAUSE THIS IS A COVE.

IT'S LIKE A BEACHFRONT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND VIEW FOR THE NEIGHBORS.

>> NO.

THAT'S NOT TRUE.

NOT TRUE.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE HOMEOWNER?

>> NO, SIR.

>> WALT, MY COMMENT IS I THINK THE BIG ISSUE PROBABLY IS MORE MASS.

I MEAN, ON THE ZERO LOT LINE, LOTS TYPICALLY â€'â€' YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A DEVELOPMENT ALONG ONE SIDE AND ON THE OTHER SIDE WHILE THE SETBACK IS NOT EVIDENTLY ON THE PLANS, TYPICALLY IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE OPEN.

I MEAN, I WILL SAY THAT FITTING THE GARAGE IN THE WAY THE LOT IS DESIGNED, AS LARGE AS IT IS, IT HAS A LOT LESS IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON THE NEIGHBOR THAN YOU MIGHT EXPECT IF THE LOT WAS CONFIGURED DIFFERENTLY.

AND PROBABLY THE REASON IT'S WITHIN COVERAGE IS BECAUSE THE PIEâ€'SHAPED LOT, THEY'RE LARGER THAN THE OTHER LOTS.

BUT TO ME THE MASS PROPORTION IS PROBABLY THE ISSUE.

>> I THINK THE SAME THING, TOO.

IT'S AN AWFUL BIG STRUCTURE TO THROW IN THERE.

OH, GEEZ.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DENY AS PRESENTED.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION, SIR.

>> OKAY.

THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> ARTHUR, AYE.

>> AYE.

>> MARY, AYE.

>> WALT, AYE.

OKAY.

MOTION CARRIES TO DENY.

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>> ON MY NOTES THERE.

I DO SHOW THAT ONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS STILL HAS THEIR HAND RAISED.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ENGAGE THAT CALL.

I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS THE NEIGHBOR OR THE OWNER.

BUT I SHOW THAT THEY ARE STILL ON THE CALL AND HAVE RAISED THEIR HAND.

>> I'LL ALLOW IT.

I'LL GIVE A COUPLE MINUTES.

>> OKAY.

CALLER ENDING IN 7728.

ARE YOU THE NEIGHBOR OR THE OWNER? YOU ARE MUTED, BUT I SHOW THAT YOUR HAND IS RAISED.

YOU CAN UNMUTE BY HITTING STARâ€'6.

>> CALLER: I'M SORRY.

WE'RE GOING TO â€'â€' THAT WAS JUST AN ERROR.

WE'RE GOING TO HANG UP.

THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S MOVE ON.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE NEXT ONES WILL BE ITEMS 2 AND 3.

[Items VIII.2. & VIII.3.]

ITEMS 2 AND 3 ARE THE CONSIDERATION AND ACTION TO APPROVE OF THE OWNER PURSUING AN AMENDMENT TO AN INITIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION REQUESTING TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF LIVING AREA ALLOWED.

THIS IS ALSO TO REVIEW THE PROPOSAL OF THE ADDITION WHICH IS WHAT'S CAUSING THE INCREASE AND THIS IS AT 5 BUTTONBUSH COURT REPRESENTED ON THE VILLAGE OF GROGAN'S MILL FOR A NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION.

REPRESENTED HERE AT THE END OF THE CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC FOR 5 BUTTONBUSH COURT.

LOOKING AT THE MAP OF THE LOCATION CLOSE TO GROGAN'S MILL OFF GROGAN'S MILL ROAD.

HERE IS THE PROPOSED HOME.

THE HOME PROPOSAL IS 3.8% OVER THE MAXIMUM HARD SURFACE ALLOWED AS REPRESENTED HERE.

IT IS ALSO OVER IN LIVING AREA WITH THE CRITERIA HAVING 3,350, BOTH YOUR CRITERIA AND YOUR LAND USE HAVE A MAXIMUM LIVING AREA OF 3,350.

THE PROPERTY PROPOSAL IS TO HAVE A HOUSE OF 3,628.

THE PREVIOUS HOME ON THIS LOT WHICH WAS DEMOLISHED AS PART OF THE DSC ACTION PREVIOUSLY WAS 2,020 SQUARE FEET TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

THIS GIVES YOU A VIEW OF THE PREVIOUS HOME, THAT 2020 LIVING AREA AND THIS IS THE SURVEY SHOWING THE PROPOSED HOME WHICH IS 3,628 SQUARE FEET WHICH WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT TO THE LAND USE DESIGNATION AND WOULD ALSO REQUIRE A VARIANCE TO YOUR CRITERIA.

HERE IS THE PROPERTY AND HOW IT SITS WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES AT 4 AND 9 BUTTONBUSH COURT.

THE PROPERTY BEING 5 BUTTONBUSH PROPOSED FOR A NEW HOME CONSTRUCTION.

WE DID RECEIVE RESPONSES FROM 9 AND 4.

THOSE HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.

THEY INQUIRED MOSTLY ASKING WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, QUESTIONS IN REGARD TO DRAINAGE ISSUES AND HARD SURFACE AREA AMOUNTS.

I BELIEVE BOTH INDIVIDUALS SAID THEY INTEND TO ATTEND THE MEETING.

THIS WOULD BE THE VIEW OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.

NEIGHBOR COMMUNICATION FORMS WERE CIRCULATED TO ADJACENT PROPERTIES AND THESE ARE THE TWO PROPERTIES WHERE INQUIRY OR CONCERN WAS BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE STAFF.

HERE'S YOUR OVERALL CRITERIA FOR THIS AREA.

HERE'S YOUR 3,350 SQUARE FEET OF MAXIMUM LIVING AREA, 40% IS THE HARD SURFACE ALLOWED.

THE PROPOSAL IS AT 43.8% AND THE LIVING AREA IS AT 3,628.

HERE'S YOUR OVERALL HARD SURFACE ALLOWED AT 40.

THE OVERALL WOULD COME TO 43.8.

THAT 3.8% OVERAGE IS ONLY FOR THE HOME AND THE DRIVEWAY.

SO THIS WOULD NOT FACTOR IN ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT MIGHT BE ON THE LOT IN THE FUTURE SUCH AS A PATIO COVER OR POOL.

JUST THE HOME ITSELF IS NOTED AT 3.8 OVER.

HERE IS YOUR FLOORING PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY STARTING WITH THE GARAGE.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T ORIENT THIS THE SAME AS YOUR SURVEY.

LOOKING AT YOUR SECOND FLOOR WHICH INCLUDES THE BALCONY, THE LOFT, AND IT ALSO IDENTIFIES TWO FUTURE BEDROOM AREAS.

THOSE WERE NOT CALCULATED IN THE OVERALL LIVING AREA CALCULATION.

SO IF THOSE WERE TO BE CONVERTED THOSE WOULD INCREASE EVEN MORE SO THE

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SQUARE FOOTAGE BY 294 SQUARE FEET AND 237 SQUARE FEET RESPECTIVELY.

THIS IS YOUR OVERALL PLANS FOR THE PROPERTY.

I KNOW THESE WERE PROVIDED TO YOU PRIOR TO THE MEETING SO I WILL SCROLL THROUGH THEM QUICKLY UNLESS YOU NEED ME TO STOP.

YOUR ELEVATION DRAWINGS.

THIS IS THE VIEW WHERE THE PREVIOUS PROPERTY WAS CURRENTLY WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FENCING IN PLACE AND READY FOR A NEW HOME PROPOSAL.

HERE'S THAT OVERALL FRONT ELEVATION.

AND THEN YOUR REAR ELEVATION TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AS REPRESENTED HERE.

LOOKING TO BOTH YOUR RIGHT AND LEFTâ€'HAND SIDES.

A DRAINAGE PLAN WAS PROVIDED.

THAT DRAINAGE PLAN HAS BEEN SEALED BY A CIVIL ENGINEER.

IT DOES REPRESENT WHICH WAY THE WATER FLOWS, THE CATCH BASINS, SIZES OF THE PIPE AND THE CATCH BASINS THEMSELVES.

AND THEN HERE'S YOUR TREE PRESERVATION PLAN.

REPRESENTED ON THE TREE SURVEY SCHEDULE IS ALL OF THE TREES THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO BE PROTECTED AS TREES TO REMAIN OR ARE TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.

FOR EASE OF REFERENCE I TRIED TO HIGHLIGHT THE ONES OR CIRCLE THE ONES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL AND TIE THEM TO THE PROPERTY REPRESENTED HERE.

YOU CAN SEE 16, 15 AND 14 ON THE FAR SIDE ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.

4, 5, 7 AND 9 ARE PROPOSED ON THIS SIDE FOR REMOVAL.

HERE IS YOUR LANDSCAPING PLAN WHICH DOES INCORPORATE THE EXISTING PINE AND WATER OAK AND REPRESENTS THE NEW LIVE OAK, OLEANDER, PINEAPPLE, HAWTHORNE, GUAVA AND PROPOSED FENCING.

LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY THIS WILL GIVE YOU THE REPRESENTATION OF TREES MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY.

SO THERE IS THE 14, 15 AND 16 YOU SEE CLOSEST TO THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.

THOSE WERE THE THREE REPRESENTED HERE.

THESE ARE SOME OF THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR SAMPLE BOARD OF MATERIALS FOR WINDOWS, GARAGES, STUCCO TO BE USED, WROUGHT IRON FENCING, ROOFING MATERIAL, AND THE INCLUSIONS ON THEIR PRESENTATION BOARD FOR SHINGLES AND METAL ROOFING.

HERE IS THE OVERALL VIEW FROM THE CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC.

TO YOUR RIGHT AND LEFTâ€'HAND SIDE NEIGHBORS.

NOW YOU ARE IN THE BACKYARD AT THE GOLF COURSE LOOKING BACK TOWARD THE LOT.

A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CLOSEâ€'UP VIEW FROM THE GOLF COURSE AND A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY.

THEN THIS IS TO GIVE YOU SOME OF THE LIVING AREA AS PROVIDED BY THE HOMEOWNER REPRESENTING SOME OF THE LIVING AREA IN THIS SECTION WHICH DOES SHOW A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE AT A HIGHER AMOUNT.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE HOMEOWNER OBTAINED THE MAIN AREAS BASED ON IT BEING THE MAIN AREA AND PRIMARY SITE.

I BELIEVE THESE ARE FROM THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT.

THESE ARE IN YOUR WORKSHEET AGENDA ON MAY STAR AND STAR VIOLET FOR HOMES IN THE RANGE INCLUDED FOR YOUR REVIEW.

HOWEVER, FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND FOR THE MAXIMUM LIVING AREA NOTED IN THE CRITERIA AND THE INITIAL LAND USE DESIGNATION THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN AMENDMENT.

THEN I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT WANT TO STOP AT THE SITE PLAN WHICH REPRESENTS THE TREES.

GOING BACK TO THE RESPONSES RECEIVED IN ADDITION TO THE INQUIRY FROM THE NEIGHBOR ON THIS SIDE WHICH SPEAKS MAINLY TO CONCERNS OF HARD SURFACE, THERE IS ALSO CONCERNS RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBOR TO THIS SIDE WHICH DOES SPEAK TO THE LOCATION, DRAINAGE, TREES, MATERIAL THAT ARE CONCERNED.

SHE IS WORRIED ABOUT DRAINAGE TOWARD THE REAR OF HER PROPERTY THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED AND ALSO WITH PARKING, HOW THAT MIGHT IMPACT HER DURING CONSTRUCTION AND THE PROXIMITY OF THE HOME WHEREAS THE PREVIOUS HOME WAS SHIFTED A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ON THE LOT AND A WAY FROM HER HOME.

IT IS A SEVENâ€'FOOT SETBACK.

IT DOES RESPECT THAT.

HARD SURFACE AND LIVING AREA ARE THE VARIANCE ISSUES.

IF ANYONE IS PRESENT FOR THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY HITTING STARâ€'9 ON YOUR PHONE.

CURRENTLY I DON'T SHOW HANDS RAISED.

SOMETIMES THERE IS A DELAY WITH THE PRESENTATION.

DOES THE COMMITTEE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> AS FAR AS OVERAGE ON HARD SURFACE WE'RE LOOKING AT JUST SHY OF 4%, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT INCREASING THE ILUD, CORRECT?

[01:15:01]

>> CORRECT.

>> ALSO, WALT, I THINK WHAT WE DISCUSSED PROBABLY A FEW SESSIONS BACK WAS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION TWO ITEMS. ONE IS THE INCREASED SQUARE FOOTAGE INSIDE, ROUGHLY ABOUT 500 SQUARE FEET WHICH IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THAT'S PROBABLY DEFINITELY AN INTENTION TO DO.

>> YEAH.

>> AND THEN THE HARD SURFACE IN THE BACKYARD WHEREAS IN THE FUTURE WHEN SOMEONE COMES TO APPLY FOR EITHER â€'â€' WHATEVER, A POOL OR SOME KIND OF OUTDOOR KITCHEN AREA OR PATIO THEN WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK HERE AND THEY ARE ALREADY GOING TO BE REALLY OVER THAT 4% GRACE NUMBER THAT WE GIVE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE CLOSER TO 7, 8%.

>> GOOD POINT.

>> RIGHT.

THE 3.8% OVERAGE IS JUST FOR THE HOME AND DRIVEWAY AS PRESENTED.

SO THAT DOESN'T ALLOW FOR ANY ADDITIONAL IMPROVEMENTS IN THE FUTURE SUCH AS A PATIO COVER OR A POOL WHICH WOULD BE ADDITIONAL HARD SURFACE FOR THE LOT.

>> AND YOU'VE GOT ALMOST, WHAT, POTENTIAL ALMOST 540 SQUARE FEET INTERNALLY THAT COULD BE CONVERTED TO LIVING AREA.

WHEN THEY APPLIED.

OR WOULD APPLY.

>> YEAH.

SO THAT COULD BE PUT THIS HOUSE AT OVER 4,000 SQUARE FEET.

>> YEAH.

>> CORRECT.

>> IS THE APPLICANT GOING TO LIVE IN THE HOME OR IT'S BEING BUILT FOR RESALE ONCE IT'S BEEN BUILT?

>> UNFORTUNATELY THE APPLICANT HAS NOT ENGAGED IN THE MEETING FROM WHAT I CAN SEE OF THE ATTENDEES PRESENT.

SO I'M NOT SURE THAT WE CAN ASK THE OWNER THAT QUESTION.

>> THANK YOU.

>> IT WOULD BE â€'â€' IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE HATE TO HAVE THE NEW OWNER COME, RIGHT? THEY BUY THE HOUSE AND THEY COME NEXT YEAR AND APPLY FOR SOMETHING AND THEN WE'RE STUCK TELLING THEM, WELL, I'M SORRY.

NO ONE EXPLAINED TO YOU WHEN YOU BOUGHT THE HOUSE THAT YOU ARE ALREADY AT THE MAX HARD SURFACE AREA.

YOU KNOW? I ALWAYS HATE TO BE IN THAT POSITION TO TELL THEM THAT.

>> RIGHT.

>> IT'S NICE FOR THE CURRENT CONSTRUCTION TO BASICALLY THINK OF THAT IN ADVANCE.

>> JOHN, ALL GOOD POINTS.

>> ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ROBERT, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS?

>> MAINLY THAT ONE.

YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE OWNER WOULD BE RESTRICTED ON OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.

I WILL SAY IN THE BACK GIVEN WHERE THE STRUCTURE IS YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE MUCH ROOM FOR A POOL ANYWAY.

>> I APOLOGIZE â€'â€' >> ON THE SECOND FLOOR WE COULD RESTRICT THAT TO NONAIR CONDITIONED.

>> AND THE PROPOSAL IS ALSO ENCROACHING THE 25â€'FOOT SETBACK.

MANY OF THE PROPERTIES IN THIS AREA DO HAVE THE BALCONIES, THE SECOND STORY BALCONIES ENCROACHING THAT SETBACK.

ON THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE THE HOME AS WELL AS THAT BALCONY IS PROPOSED TO BE OVER THE 25â€'FOOT SETBACK.

I APOLOGIZE.

I DON'T THINK I INCLUDED THAT IN MY PRESENTATION.

IT IS IN YOUR WORKSHEET DETAILS.

>> HEY, ROBERT.

I'VE GOT A QUESTION.

WHEN THESE VILLAGES WERE ORIGINALLY BUILT SAY LIKE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, IT HAD A CRITERIA OF AN ILUD NO LARGER THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET.

WAS A BUILDER ALLOWED TO GO AHEAD AND REQUEST A VARIANCE FOR THE ILUD WHEN THEY WERE BUILDING? I MEAN, COULD YOU COME TO THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, HEY, I WANT TO BUILD THIS THING 4,000 SQUARE FEET INSTEAD OF 3,500?

>> THEY WOULD HAVE BUILT INITIALLY WHAT THE CRITERIA WAS.

WHAT'S CHANGED, AS YOU KNOW, IS THIS IS A GOLF COURSE PLOT AND IT'S IN A DESIRABLE AREA.

SO HAVING A LARGER HOUSE, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH THAT AT ALL.

TO ME, IT'S THE COVERAGE AS FAR AS FUTURE OWNER.

IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHETHER THIS IS FOR SALE OR OWNER OCCUPIED.

AND THEN THE â€'â€' IT'S PRIMARILY A ONEâ€'STORY HOME, SO THE SECOND FLOOR AND THOSE OTHER AREAS, IS THAT STORAGE OR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT?

[01:20:04]

WE COULD RESTRICT IT AND PROBABLY SHOULD IF WE PROVE IT.

GO BACK TO THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN JUST A SECOND.

ONE THING THAT'S SURPRISING IS ON A DOUBLE GARAGE DOOR AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE SINGLE IS ONLY AN EIGHTâ€'FOOT â€'â€' THE DOUBLE IS A 16â€'FOOT DOOR, RIGHT, KIM?

>> RIGHT.

MMâ€'HMM.

>> YOU KNOW, WITH SUVS AND PICKUP TRUCKS, I WOULD NEVER BUILD A NEW HOUSE WITH A 16â€'FOOT DOOR.

YOU'VE GOT AN SUV OR A TRUCK, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE PROBLEMS JUST GETTING IN.

YOU KNOW, I'D DO 17 OR 18 FOOT FOR A DOOR.

BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S JUST A COMMENT.

>> OKAY.

>> ROBERT, IS IT â€'â€' WOULD IT NORMALLY BE DONE TO CALCULATE THAT 535 SQUARE FEET AND LOOK AT A 4188 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE? WHERE ANYBODY â€'â€' SAY YOU CAN'T USE IT.

>> OKAY.

SO THEN IT WOULD STAY DOWN TO THE 3650 SQUARE FEET AS PRESENTED.

>> YEP.

>> THANK YOU.

>> TOO BAD THEY'RE NOT ON THE LINE.

SEE, WE DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO EITHER QUESTION.

>> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL SO WE KNOW REALLY WHERE THIS THING IS GOING.

I WOULD THINK IF THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED AND IF THIS IS GOING TO BE A RESALE, I WOULD THINK SOMEONE ELSE BUYING THIS HOUSE WOULD COME UP WITH THE IDEA, OH, I'M GOING TO APPLY AND EXPAND THAT SPACE.

>> YEP.

>> REMEMBER, WE SAID WE WERE NOT GOING TO ALLOW HOMES BUILT ABOVE THE ILUDS ON REDEVELOPMENT, TOO.

>> YES, SIR.

I REMEMBER.

>> ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RECOMMENDED MOTION THEN TO DENY AS PRESENTED? HAVE THEM RESUBMIT.

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY.

THAT'S MY MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND, SIR.

AS PRESENTED.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> JUST TO CLARIFY, I CAN INCLUDE IT ON BOTH WHICH IS TABLED AND ILUD DISCUSSION UNTIL WE GET A REVISION.

THE REVISION IS WITH THE RECOMMENDATION YOU JUST PROVIDED, CORRECT?

>> YES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WALT, I THINK OUR RESIDENTS DO APPRECIATE THAT POLICY NOT TO EXCEED THE ILUD.

>> YEAH, I THINK SO, TOO, ARTHUR.

I THINK SO, TOO.

ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S NEXT, KIM?

>> I BELIEVE AT THIS TIME I CAN STOP PRESENTING AND ALLOW NES TO START WITH HER NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

>> THANK YOU, KIM.

>> I'LL BE SHARING MY SCREEN.

THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS GOING TO BE 15 FILIGREE PINES PLACE.

[VIII.20. Request for approval for a home business - fence, deck and gutter company Walter and Carol Pierce owner and parents 15 Filigree Pines Place Lot 40 Block 01, Section 07 Village of Sterling Ridge]

IT'S A HOME BUSINESS.

LET'S SEE.

THIS IS IN THE VILLAGE OF STERLING RIDGE.

THE HOME BUSINESS IS FOR A â€'â€' SORRY â€'â€' A FENCE, DECK, AND GUTTER COMPANY.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

WE DID RECEIVE ONE LETTER IN OPPOSITION FROM THE NEIGHBOR NEXT DOOR.

RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING, I DID RECEIVE ANOTHER LETTER WHICH I WASN'T ABLE TO INCLUDE.

HOWEVER, IT BASICALLY HAS THE SAME CONCERNS THAT THE SUBMITTED LETTER IN YOUR WORKSHEET AGENDA.

THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE A NAME ON IT.

IT JUST SAYS THE NEIGHBORS ON THE STREET.

SO I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHO THAT'S FROM EXCEPT CONCERNED NEIGHBORS ON FILIGREE PINES.

THAT'S YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

YOUR SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

THE INTENTION â€'â€' ACTUALLY IT IS AN EXISTING HOME BUSINESS.

THE HOMEOWNER IS ACTUALLY THE PARENTS OF THE OCCUPANTS.

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SO THE OCCUPANTS ARE THE ONES THAT ARE RUNNING THE BUSINESS.

THEY STATE ONLY 5% OF THE PROPERTY BEING USED FOR OFFICE WORK AND THAT THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE THEIR CONTRACT EMPLOYEES â€'â€' SUBCONTRACTORS COMING TO THE PLACE TO GET PAID AND THAT WOULD BE ONCE A WEEK, I BELIEVE.

AND THEY WOULD BE PARKING IN THE DRIVEWAY AND WOULDN'T BE BRINGING TRAILERS OR LARGE VEHICLES.

THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME, AND THE RIGHT SIDE.

I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DID RECEIVE A LENGTHY LETTER IN OPPOSITION.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE EXISTING LARGE HEAVY DUTY PICKUP TRUCKS THAT PULL TRAILERS THAT ARE FREQUENTLY AT THE HOUSE ON A REGULAR BASIS DROPPING OFF MATERIALS, PICKING UP NEW MATERIALS OR ACTUALLY GETTING PAID OR AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE JOB.

THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE NARROWNESS OF THE STREETS AND THAT THE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS ARE GOING DOWN THE STREET ALL THE TIME THAT THEY HAVE HAD DAMAGE TO THEIR YARD AND SPRINKLER.

THEY BELIEVE FENCING AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL ARE DROPPED OFF BY FLATBED TRUCKS AND FORKLIFTS.

DEMOLISHED MATERIALS FROM FENCE JOBS HAVE BEEN LEFT IN THE TRAILERS IN THE STREET OVERNIGHT.

AND THEY HAVE REPORTED THAT THE DRIVEWAY AND CURB HAS BEEN DAMAGED AND THAT MOST OF THE GARAGE IS BEING USED FOR THIS BUSINESS WHICH I'M NOT SURE OF THAT.

BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS SAYING ONLY 5% AND IT'S JUST FOR OFFICE WORK.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE ANYBODY â€'â€' IF THERE IS ANYBODY CALLING IN REFERENCE TO THIS ITEM, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND NOW.

I BELIEVE THERE WAS SOMEBODY EARLIER THAT CALLED IN.

PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND, STARâ€'9.

OKAY.

COMMITTEE, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> NO.

>> NO.

NOT AT THIS TIME.

IS SOMEONE CALLING IN?

>> THERE ARE TWO HANDS RAISED AT THIS TIME.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO FIND OUT?

>> YES.

IF THE APPLICANT IS THE FIRST ONE, WE'LL LISTEN TO THEM.

>> OKAY.

LET ME CHECK AND SEE WHICH ONE IS THE APPLICANT.

CALLER ENDING IN 5594, PLEASE UNMUTE BY HITTING STARâ€'6.

ARE YOU THE APPLICANT OR AN AFFECTED NEIGHBOR?

>> CALLER: IMPACTED NEIGHBOR.

>> LET ME MUTE YOU AND CHECK ON THE OTHER HAND THAT'S RAISED, OKAY? CALLER ENDING IN 6033, PLEASE UNMUTE BY HITTING STARâ€'6.

>> CALLER: HELLO?

>> HELLO.

IS THIS 6033? ARE YOU THE APPLICANT OR AN AFFECTED NEIGHBOR?

>> CALLER: AFFECTED NEIGHBOR.

>> OH, OKAY.

WALT, IT DOES NOT SEEM THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT.

>> OKAY.

LET'S LET THE AFFECTED NEIGHBORS SPEAK.

>> OKAY.

SIR, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU'RE LIVE WITH THE COMMITTEE.

GO AHEAD.

>> CALLER: ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS TAD NOWICKY.

WE LIVE DOWN THE STREET AND DOWN A COUPLE.

BUT WHAT YOU MENTIONED EARLIER WAS TRUE.

THERE ARE TRUCKS AND TRAILERS ON THE STREET ALL THE TIME.

LUMBER SITTING AT THE â€'â€' FOR PICKUP A COUPLE TIMES AND THE GARAGE IS PRETTY FULL OF LUMBER AS WELL.

WE SAW, I THINK A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO A PALLET OR TWO OF FENCE POSTS BEING DROPPED OFF WHICH THEY DIDN'T â€'â€' WE HAVE HAD FENCES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT WASN'T FOR THEM.

IT WAS DROPPED IN THE FRONT YARD AS WELL AS THERE'S AT LEAST 14 CHILDREN WITHIN THE SIX HOUSES ON THAT CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC.

SO THERE IS QUITE A BIT OF TRAFFIC WE'D LIKE TO LIMIT.

>> ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

>> CALLER: THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CALLING IN.

>> OKAY.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

>> LET ME UNMUTE THE SECOND CALLER.

[01:30:07]

SECOND CALLER AT 5594.

>> CALLER: YEAH.

CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YOU CAN ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

>> CALLER: YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME ALL RIGHT?

>> YES.

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME.

>> CALLER: GREAT.

YEAH.

IT'S STEVE WELKE, I LIVE NEXT DOOR, 19 FILIGREE PINES.

BEEN IN THIS HOUSE FOR OVER 17 YEARS.

SO I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE COME AND GO.

FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS SINCE THEY PURCHASED THE HOME, YOU KNOW, THE PIERCES PURCHASED IT BUT THE NONOWNER OCCUPANTS HAVE BEEN IN THE HOUSE FOR SIX YEARS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN AN UNDER THE RADAR BUSINESS FOR A WHILE.

YOU KNOW IT'S JUST KIND OF GROWN FROM TOLERATION TO ANNOYANCE TO JUST ALL OUT FRUSTRATION.

I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS YOU RATTLED OFF WERE IN MY Eâ€'MAIL.

BASICALLY HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS, STOPPING BY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

DEFINITELY WHEN THEY'RE GETTING PAID.

BUT ALSO PICKING UP MATERIALS, DROPPING OFF MATERIALS.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A TRAILER FULL OF DEMO'D FENCING MATERIAL WITH SHARP JAGGED EDGES AND NAILS PARKED ON THE STREET FOR MANY HOURS, PROBABLY OVERNIGHT.

I CAN'T REMEMBER.

BUT THAT WAS EARLIER THIS YEAR IN 2020.

AS THAD MENTIONED â€'â€' I KNOW HIM, HE LIVES DOWN THE STREET THERE â€'â€' THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, A HUGE PALLET OF RED CEDAR PLANKS DROPPED OFF, FOUR BY FOURS, TWO BY FOURS.

IT SAT IN THE DRIVEWAY FOR THREE DAYS UNTIL THEY WERE FINALLY MOVED OR PICKED UP.

THAT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME.

I PHYSICALLY HAVE SEEN, WITNESSED EITHER HOME DEPOT OR LOWE'S FORKLIFTS BASICALLY PUTTING MATERIALS IN THE DRIVEWAY JUST TO BE PICKED UP LATER BY SUBCONTRACTORS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE.

AS THAD MENTIONED HE SAID 14.

I HAD 8 TO 10 KIDS UNDER THE AGE OF 10 ON THE STREET.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF FAMILY TURNOVER IN THE LAST TWO, THREE YEARS.

IF YOU ADD UP THE KIDS REALLY FROM THE MIDPART OF THE STREET TO THE END OF THE CULâ€'DEâ€'SAC, YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS.

THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO â€'â€' IT'S HARD ENOUGH WITH LANDSCAPING TRUCKS AND TRAILERS.

NOW YOU HAVE â€'â€' HAVE HAD THIS GOING ON.

ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS, FRANKLY, IS IF IT'S PERMITTED â€'â€' YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT UNAPPROVED FOR YEARS.

IF IT'S PERMITTED IT'S ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE.

THEY'LL FALL BACK ON THE FACT THAT IT WAS APPROVED.

YOU KNOW, THE VARIANCE APPROVED.

YOU KNOW, THE GARAGE, I CAN ATTEST.

THE GARAGE IS JAMâ€'PACKED.

THEY HAVE NEVER PARKED A VEHICLE IN THE GARAGE.

IT IS FULL OF TOOLS AND MATERIALS NONSTOP.

THAT'S NOT 5%.

IT'S A THREEâ€'CAR GARAGE.

THAT'S NOT 5% OF THE HOME.

HEY, IF IT'S â€'â€' I'M USING THIS AS A HOME OFFICE TO SCHEDULE OR SEND Eâ€'MAILS OR ANSWER THE PHONE, THAT'S ONE THING.

WHEN YOU START BRINGING HEAVY EQUIPMENT, HEAVY DUTY TRUCKS AND TRAILERS, IT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

MY YARD AND MY SPRINKLER SYSTEM HAS BEEN DAMAGED.

THAT'S WHERE I HAVE GONE FROM TOLERATION TO FRUSTRATION.

I HAVE HAD TO REPAIR DIVOTS IN THE SPRING IN MY YARD FROM TRUCKS AND TRAILERS DRIVING OVER IT.

SPRINKLER HEAD.

ONE OF MY ROTORS GOT SNAPPED OFF THIS PAST WINTER.

SO IT'S COST ME.

IT'S GONE FROM ANNOYANCE TO ACTUALLY SOME HARD DOLLAR COSTS.

BUT I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ELEMENT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE KIDS RIDING THEIR BIKES, LEARNING TO RIDE BIKES UP AND DOWN THE STREET, TO HAVING THIS ACTIVITY GOING ON.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PAY A PREMIUM TO LIVE IN THE WOODLANDS.

YOU REALLY DON'T EXPECT THIS TO OCCUR WHEN YOU'RE PAYING A PREMIUM TO LIVE HERE.

THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES WHERE THIS IS MORE ACCEPTABLE.

OUT IN AGNOLIA, RURAL COMMUNITIES WITH COMMUNITIES WHERE WORKSHOPS ARE WELCOME AND EXTRA BUILDINGS IN THE YARD.

YOU JUST DON'T EXPECT IT ON A NARROW SMALL DEEDâ€'RESTRICTED SUBDIVISION THAT YOU PAY A LOT OF MONEY TO LIVE IN.

>> OKAY.

CAN YOU WRAP IT UP, PLEASE, SIR?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

AT THE END OF THE DAY NOT ONLY IS IT DANGEROUS, BUT I THINK IT IMPACTS THE SALABILITY.

I SELL HOMES FOR A LIVING.

I HAVE SOLD OVER 350 HOMES.

I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT HOMES THAT LOOK LIKE THAT AND THAT HAVE KIND OF ACTIVITY.

IT MAKES IT HARD TO SELL.

IT MAKES THE NEIGHBORS' HOMES HARD TO SELL AND DRIVES DOWN OUR VALUES.

I THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE AND DOESN'T BELONG ON A DEEDâ€'RESTRICTED,

[01:35:03]

RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE WOODLANDS.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENTS.

I APPRECIATE IT.

DOES ANYBODY ON THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> JOHN, PLEASE.

>> I THINK THE EASY ANSWER IS TO DENY THE HOMEâ€'BASED BUSINESS APPLICATION.

THE UNFORTUNATE ASPECT IS THAT WON'T STOP UNFORTUNATELY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TRAILERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

UNFORTUNATELY WHAT THE NEIGHBORS ARE GOING THROUGH.

SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO PUT EXPECTATIONS OUT THERE THAT EVEN THOUGH THE UNFORTUNATE ASPECT IS THAT ALL THIS STUFF IS HAPPENING WITH THE TRAILERS AND WHATâ€'HAVEâ€'YOU.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WE RECTIFY THAT.

SO FOR US TO MAKE THIS DECISION OF NOT APPROVING THE HOMEâ€'BASED BUSINESS, I THINK FOR ME THAT'S AN EASY ONE.

BUT ALL THE ISSUES THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ARE PRESENTING REGARDING THE TRAILERS AND THE DROPâ€'OFF, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THAT.

>> WELL, WE COULD â€'â€' WELL, IF WE DECIDE TO DENY IT AS PRESENTED WE COULD SEND A LETTER TO THE HOMEOWNER STATING THAT IF HE IS RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF HIS HOME WE COULD END UP TAKING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST HIM.

>> AND SEE IF THAT MOVES THE HOMEOWNER TO MOVE THE BUSINESS OUTSIDE.

HE'S CLEARLY RUNNING A BUSINESS AND HE'S CLEARLY HAVING A NEGATIVE IMPACT TO A NEIGHBORHOOD.

THAT TYPE OF HOME BUSINESS WAS NOT INTENDED TO BE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> RIGHT.

IF THE CALLERS WERE STILL ON THE LINE, OBVIOUSLY TAKE PICTURES, RIGHT? PICTURES ARE WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.

IF THERE ARE TRAILERS ON THE BLOCK AND THINGS HAPPENING, MAKE SURE YOU TAKE SOME PICTURES SO YOU CAN PRESENT THAT TO WHOEVER NEEDS THAT.

>> JOHN, I THINK YOUR COMMENTS ARE POINTED BUT IT HELPS THE RESIDENTS IF THIS WAS DENIED VERSUS IF THIS WAS APPROVED.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

ABSOLUTELY.

>> OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION THEY'D LIKE TO PRESENT?

>> JOHN SOUNDED LIKE HE HAD A MOTION.

>> I MOTION TO DENY AS PRESENTED.

>> I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO DENY THE APPLICATION, PERIOD.

>> I'LL SECOND HIS MOTION.

>> DO WE WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? NES, CAN WE DO ANYTHING, ADD ANYTHING ON A LETTER FROM THE STRONG FIRM TO THIS RESIDENT?

>> MAYBE THE LETTER IS WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ARE â€'â€' YOUR APPLICATION IS DENIED.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE CRITERIA â€'â€' YOU MATCHED THE CRITERIA OF A HOMEâ€'BASED BUSINESS AND SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT AND CEASE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS.

SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

>> NORMALLY WE WILL SEND A LETTER TO THEM TELLING THEM THAT IT'S BEEN DENIED AND THEY HAVE TO CEASE IF IT CONTINUES WE'LL FOLLOW THE NORMAL VIOLATION PROCESS.

>> WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET ME MUTE.

THOSE CALLERS, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND HANG UP.

NEXT ITEM IS 54 GOLD LEAF PLACE IN THE VILLAGE OF ALDEN BRIDGE.

IT IS A PLAY STRUCTURE WHICH IS A TREE FORT.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

AND YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE THE SURVEY AND THE LOCATION OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE IN THIS AREA HERE.

THIS PLAY STRUCTURE IS BASICALLY AN ELEVATED WOODEN STRUCTURE.

THE ELEVATED FLOOR IS EIGHT FEET THREE INCHES.

ACCORDING TO OUR STANDARDS, THE ELEVATED FLOOR IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OVER SEVEN FEET.

WITH THE HANDRAILS THE STRUCTURE IS 11 FEET 2 INCHES WHICH IS WITHIN THE GUIDELINES FOR A PLAY STRUCTURE.

THE PLATFORM HEIGHT IS â€'â€' I GUESS I HAVE TOLD YOU THAT.

[01:40:03]

IT'S AT EIGHT FEET WHICH IS ONE FOOT MORE THAN THE MAX.

IN ADDITION, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE ELEVATED FLOOR AREA IS SUPPOSED TO BE A MAXIMUM OF 72 SQUARE FEET AND THIS IS 98 WHICH IS AN OVERAGE OF 26 SQUARE FEET.

I'M SORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE â€'â€' I'M GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I JUST SAID.

THIS IS YOUR STANDARDS.

THIS IS WHAT â€'â€' THIS IS SEEKING A VARIANCE FOR.

THE PLAY STRUCTURE NOT TO EXCEED THE 72 SQUARE FEET OF ELEVATED FLOOR AREA AND NOT TO EXCEED SEVEN FEET FOR THE ELEVATED FLOOR AREA.

NOW, THERE IS IN THE PREAPPROVALS A PLAY STRUCTURE EIGHT FEET OR LESS COMPLYING WITH STANDARDS ARE PREAPPROVED AND THE HOMEOWNER INDICATED THAT'S WHAT THEY WENT BY AND DID NOT GET AN APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE COMPLIANT WITH.

HOWEVER, ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS AND HOW WE INTERPRET IT, THAT PLAY STRUCTURE DOES NOT MEET THAT GUIDELINE.

THIS IS THEIR PLAN.

HERE'S YOUR PUZZLE.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION OF THAT PLAY STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE.

IN THE RIGHT CORNER OF THE PROPERTY.

FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME.

THE LEFT SIDE.

AND THE RIGHT SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THE RAILINGS OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE FROM THE STREET.

THIS IS A CLOSERâ€'UP VIEW.

THIS IS THE STRUCTURE IN THE BACKYARD.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S AROUND THE TREES.

IT'S A WOODEN STRUCTURE.

11 FEET TO THE TOP, EIGHT FEET TO THIS ELEVATED FLOOR AREA.

ANOTHER VIEW.

MORE VIEWS OF THE STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

IT BACKS UP TO ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PROPERTIES BECAUSE OF THE LARGE WEDGEâ€'SHAPED LOT CONFIGURATION.

WE DID RECEIVE A NEIGHBOR RESPONSE IN OPPOSITION TO THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT VISIBILITY AND LOSS OF PRIVACY IN THE BACKYARD.

THE HOMEOWNER DOES STATE THAT THEY BUILT THIS STRUCTURE FOR THEIR DAUGHTER.

SHE HAS SOME SPECIAL NEEDS AND THIS TYPE OF STRUCTURE AIDS IN HER REHABILITATION.

I DON'T KNOW IF THEY ARE ON THE LINE.

I'LL HAVE TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.

IF ANYBODY IS ON THE CALL IN REGARD TO THIS STRUCTURE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY HITTING STARâ€'9.

I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY HITTING STARâ€'9.

THIS IS THE VIEW THAT THE REAR NEIGHBOR HAS SUBMITTED.

WELL, THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR THIS ITEM.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> IS IT CORRECT THAT THERE IS A RECOMMENDED MOTION THAT THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN ON SUMMARY IF THERE WAS NOT A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT.

>> CORRECT.

I DID HAVE IT ON SUMMARY.

ONCE I GOT THE COMPLAINTS WE TOOK IT OFF SUMMARY.

THE RECOMMENDED MOTION WAS TO STAIN THE WOOD A MUTED EARTHTONE COLOR SUCH AS BROWN TO BLEND IN WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

MAINTAIN VEGETATION AND PLANT AND MAINTAIN EVERGREEN TREES OR SHRUBS AT LEAST EIGHT FEET TALL TO SCREEN THE STRUCTURE FROM THE REAR, FRONT AND SIDE AND THAT STAFF WOULD CHECK UPON COMPLETION TO DETERMINE IF IT SUFFICIENTLY SCREENED.

THE CONDITIONS MUST BE MET WITHIN 90 DAYS.

THEN TO REMOVE THE STRUCTURE WHEN IN DISREPAIR.

WE ALSO ADDED A CLAUSE THAT SAID IF ANY REASON STAFF â€'â€' THE COMMITTEES HAVE THE RIGHT TO REâ€'EVALUATE THE IMPROVEMENT AND MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT.

>> OKAY.

IS THE HOMEOWNER THAT HAS COMPLAINED WITH US TONIGHT?

>> I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED.

IF YOU ARE CALLING ABOUT THIS ADDRESS, 54 GOLD LEAF, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND BY HITTING STARâ€'9.

I DO NOT HAVE ANYBODY HITTING STARâ€'9.

I DON'T SEE A RAISED HAND.

>> MR. CHAIRMAN â€'â€' >> DO THEY HAVE ROOM TO PLANT ANY VEGETATION?

>> OH, THEY HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM.

IT'S TOTALLY WITHIN THE PROPERTY.

IT'S NOT IN THE EASEMENTS.

THERE'S A LOT OF ROOM TO PLANT.

[01:45:04]

>> IT'S ALREADY BUILT WITHIN VEGETATION.

THERE ARE SOME GAPS ACCORDING TO THE PICTURES PROVIDED THAT CAN BE FILLED IN AS STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.

>> MMâ€'HMM.

>> IT BASICALLY EXCEEDS THE ELEVATED FLOOR HEIGHT BY ONE FOOT AND THE ELEVATED FLOOR SQUARE FOOTAGE BY 26 SQUARE FEET.

THE DSC HAS GRANTED SIMILARâ€'TYPE VARIANCES FOR PLAY STRUCTURES THAT HAVE A LITTLE SQUARE FOOTAGE EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT ALLOWED AND THE HEIGHT.

THE TOTAL HEIGHT IS STILL LOWER THAN WHAT IS THE MAXIMUM WHICH IS, I BELIEVE, 13 FEET.

>> RECOMMEND A MOTION.

SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A MOTION THAT WOULD COVER ALL THE CONCERNS AND GET A VARIANCE ON THE PROJECT.

>> I SECOND THAT.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> WE DO LIKE THOSE RECOMMENDED MOTIONS.

>> WELCOME.

>> GOOD JOB.

[VIII.31. Consideration and action to amend the conditions of approval for the previously approved dog run. Colby & Jessica Swinea 11 Alamito Canyon Place Lot 37, Block 3, Section 89 Village of Sterling Ridge]

>> OKAY.

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 11ALAMITO CANYON.

THIS IS IN THE VILLAGE OF STERLING RIDGE.

THIS IS ACTUALLY A REQUEST TO AMEND A DSC CONDITION.

THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME.

THIS CAME TO THE DSC ON FEBRUARY 19 OF THIS YEAR.

IT WAS A DOG RUN IN THE REAR OF THE HOME.

IT WAS RIGHT ALONG THE FENCE LINE IN THIS LOCATION.

THE DSC CONDITIONALLY APPROVED IT.

THEY STATED THAT THE HOMEOWNER MUST MOVE THE DOG RUN STRUCTURE AT LEAST SIX FEET FROM THE REAR PERIMETER AND MUST PLANT AND MAINTAIN EVERGREEN SHRUBS AND TREES TO SCREEN TO THE REAR OF THE CANOPY ON THE DOG RUN.

STAFF WILL REVIEW AND THE PLANTINGS HAD TO BE DONE IN 60 DAYS.

THE MOTION WAS UNANIMOUS.

BECAUSE OF THE COVIDâ€'19 PANDEMIC, THERE WAS A LAG IN THE 60 DAYS.

STAFF COULDN'T GO OUT THERE TO CHECK FOR A WHILE.

THE HOMEOWNER HAD DIFFICULTIES MOVING THE DOG RUN.

SO INSTEAD OF MOVING JUST THE SIX FEET SHE MOVED IT AT LEAST 30 FEET AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY LINES.

IT'S LOCATED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROPERTY NOW.

AND SHE IS BASICALLY REQUESTING A REVIEW OF HAVING TO PLANT TO SCREEN TO THE REAR SINCE SHE'S NOT CLOSE TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE ANYMORE.

THERE'S YOUR PUZZLE.

AND THIS IS A VIEW OF THE DOG RUN HERE.

IT USED TO BE LOCATED HERE ALL ALONG HERE.

BUT NOW IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YARD.

THIS IS THE VIEW FROM THE DOG RUN LOOKING TOWARD THE REAR.

AND THEN LOOKING TOWARD THE RIGHT SIDE NEIGHBOR.

NOW, IN THE PAST WE DID RECEIVE A COMPLAINT FROM WHEN IT WAS AT THE BACK OF THE STRUCTURE.

THERE WERE SOME COMPLAINTS ABOUT JUST VARIOUS UPKEEP AND SOME ISSUES WITH THE DOGS AND ITEMS ON THE PROPERTY.

THERE'S SOME MESH FENCING THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS SUPPOSED TO REMOVE.

SHE HAS INDICATED SHE'S SCHEDULED TO REMOVE THAT.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ARE STILL WORKING ON WITH THE TRASH CAN.

BUT BECAUSE THIS WENT TO THE DSC DUE TO A VIOLATION WE BROUGHT THAT BACK SO WE CAN RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ANYBODY ON LINE.

I DON'T SEE A HAND RAISED.

IF THERE IS ANYBODY CALLING IN REFERENCE TO 11 ALAMITO RAISE YOUR HAND.

I HAVE ONE CALLER.

CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO GO AHEAD AND ANSWER THAT?

>> YES, PLEASE.

>> OKAY.

CALLER ENDING IN 2744, CAN YOU UNMUTE BY HITTING STARâ€'6? CALLER ENDING IN 2744, ARE YOU CALLING ABOUT 11 ALAMITO? PLEASE HIT STARâ€'6 TO UNMUTE.

[01:50:04]

THE HAND IS RAISED BUT THEY HAVE NOT UNMUTED YET.

OKAY.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

>> YES.

IS THIS JESSICA?

>> CALLER: OKAY, YES.

>> YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> CALLER: JESSICA SWEENEY, 11 ALAMITO CANYON.

I'M THE HOMEOWNER.

>> GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

I'M SORRY.

THE VIDEO IS â€'â€' I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LAGGING OR AHEAD.

I JUST LOGGED IN SO I COULD SEE WHAT PICTURES YOU GUYS WERE GOING TO SEE.

I HAVE ADDITIONAL PICTURES IF NEEDED THAT SHOW THE ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS.

THE CLOSEST FENCE LINE IS THE REAR FENCE.

IT'S 29 FEET, SEVEN INCHES.

SO JUST SHORT OF 30 FEET RATHER.

TO THE LEFT AND RIGHT IT IS 40 FEET AND 39 FEET.

SO IT'S VERY SPACED OUT.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR â€'â€' AFTER THE PICTURES WERE TAKEN I MOVED THE TRAMPOLINE, TOO, A LITTLE BIT SO IT KIND OF SHIELDS IT FROM THE REAR NEIGHBORS.

THE REAR NEIGHBORS WERE NOT AMONG THOSE THAT WERE COMPLAINING.

IT WAS THE NEIGHBORS THAT IF YOU ARE FACING THE PROPERTY, DIRECTLY TO THE RIGHT AND NEIGHBORS ACROSS THE STREET THAT HAVE SINCE MOVED.

SO THEY DON'T LIVE THERE ANYMORE.

THE NEIGHBORS TO THE REAR WEREN'T THE ONES THAT WERE COMPLAINING.

IT WAS, LIKE I SAID, THE NEIGHBORS TO THE RIGHT.

ALSO, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETING BACK IN FEBRUARY, I MISUNDERSTOOD AND THOUGHT THAT THE REASON FOR THE SCREENING WAS TO BLOCK IT FROM WHERE YOU COULD SEE IT FROM THE STREET WHICH YOU COULD WHENEVER IT WAS BY THE FENCE.

NOW YOU CANNOT SEE IT FROM ANY FENCE.

THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SEE IT IS IF YOU ARE IN THE ADJACENT PROPERTY BACKYARD, SO REAR RIGHT AND LEFT.

OR IF YOU'RE UPSTAIRS IN THEIR WINDOWS.

SO THOSE ARE THE ONLY WAYS THAT YOU CAN SEE IT.

IT'S LITERALLY TEN FEET FROM MY HOUSE.

THAT'S THE CLOSEST WE COULD GET IT BECAUSE WE HAVE A DITCH RUNNING THROUGH.

SO IT'S AS FAR AS EVERYBODY AS I COULD GET IT.

ALSO, THE REAR NEIGHBORS HAVE GARDEN PLANTS PLANTED ALONG THAT FENCE AS WELL.

I WASN'T ABLE TO TALK TO THEM.

I DID ATTEMPT TO TALK TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WOULD LIKE SOMETHING THAT WAS SEVEN FEET TALL KIND OF BLOCKING ANYTHING POTENTIALLY, BUT I COULD NOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THEM.

BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DIDN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT IT THAT I'M AWARE OF AT ALL.

SO WHENEVER I ASKED ABOUT IT AFTER THE MEETING, MS. WASN'T TO SHIELD IT FROM THE STREET.

IT WAS TO SHIELD IT FROM THE NEIGHBORS.

THAT'S WHEN I GOT CONFUSED AND TALKED TO HER ABOUT SOME POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS.

AND THEN COVIDâ€'19 HIT AND WE COULDN'T GET ANYBODY OUT TO TAKE PICTURES AND IT WAS JUST A BIG MESS.

SO, YEAH, I GUESS THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

I DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PICTURES OF ACTUAL MEASUREMENTS IF NEEDED.

>> COULD YOU SHOW US A PICTURE OF THE DOG RUN, NES?

>> YES.

IT'S LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

>> SO THE HOMES WITH THE SECOND STORY CAN LOOK DOWN AND SEE THAT.

>> YEAH, OF COURSE.

NORMALLY OUR SCREENING IS REQUIRED FOR VIEW FROM GROUND LEVEL.

>> WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION.

IS THIS THE HOUSE THAT HAS THE DOGS THAT ARE OUTSIDE THE WHOLE ENTIRE TIME? OR IS THIS A DIFFERENT ONE I'M THINKING OF?

>> I THINK THIS IS THE SAME ONE.

>> CALLER: CAN YOU STILL HEAR ME?

>> YES, MS. SWEENEY.

>> CALLER: MY DOGS ARE OUTSIDE BECAUSE MY SON HAS SEVERE ASTHMA AND HE WAS ON

[01:55:06]

SIX BREATHING TREATMENTS A DAY WHEN WE HAD THEM INSIDE.

SO AMONG VARIOUS OTHER DISABILITIES THAT HE HAS, THAT'S ONE THING THAT I CAN HELP HIM WITH.

I'M SORRY THAT â€'â€' WELL, I'M JUST SORRY TO MY DOGS THAT THEY HAVE TO BE OUTSIDE NOW.

BUT THAT'S THE ONLY ENTITY THAT I'M SORRY FOR FOR HAVING OUTSIDE DOGS.

THEY ARE NOT LOUD.

THEY DO NOT CAUSE A NUISANCE.

THEY DON'T ESCAPE THE FENCING.

THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING.

SO WHEN IT COMES BETWEEN GIVING MY CHILD SIX BREATHING TREATMENTS A DAY AND MAYBE ONE WHEN ALLERGENS ARE REALLY BAD I'M GOING TO CHOOSE THAT EVERY SINGLE TIME.

IT'S NOT LIKE I'M A CRUEL PERSON LIKE I'M LABELED OUT TO BE.

THAT'S MY SITUATION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS GIVEN AND THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO LIVE WITH.

>> WELL, JUST FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, IF WE MODIFIED THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT INITIALLY WE COULD ALWAYS KIND OF LEAVE IT IN THERE IF THERE IS ANY FURTHER NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS.

STAFF COULD WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER ABOUT LOCATING SCREENING.

>> THE INITIAL CONDITIONS WAS ONLY SCREENING TO THE REAR.

>> RIGHT.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M PUTTING IT OUT FOR DISCUSSION FOR THE COMMITTEE.

YOU COULD MODIFY THAT AND HAVE THE CONDITION THAT IF THERE ARE ANY COMPLAINTS RECEIVED FROM THE NEIGHBOR FROM THE REAR THEN SCREENING WOULD HAVE TO BE REINSTALLED UNDER SUPERVISION OF THE STAFF.

BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SCREENING ON LEFT AND RIGHT, CORRECT, NES?

>> NO.

>> IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION IN THE REAR WHERE IT WAS ORIGINALLY.

>> YES.

>> POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IF I MAY.

WHAT COMPLAINTS ARE WE GOING TO RESPOND TO AND WHAT TYPE OF COMPLAINTS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT?

>> HENNIE, IF I CAN ANSWER THAT, MY COMMENT WAS WITH THE SCREENING IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS WOULD BE THE WAY WE ORIGINALLY DID IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A COMPLAINT FROM THE NEIGHBOR IN THE REAR.

BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE ORIGINALLY PUT SCREENING IN AS A CONDITION TO REDUCE ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBOR IN THE REAR BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL LOCATION BEING UP AGAINST THE FENCE, WAS MY RECOLLECTION.

>> THAT WOULD BE VISUAL.

>> I THINK THE SCREENING WAS DESIGNED FOR VISUAL COMPLAINTS, NOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE DOG.

I DON'T THINK WE TOOK THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

>> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THANK YOU.

>> IT'S OKAY.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

>> WHAT HAVE WE DONE IN OTHER LOCATIONS? DO WE ALLOW DOG RUNS OUT THERE LIKE THAT? JUST OUT IN THE MIDDLE?

>> WELL, THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO BE A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINES.

OTHER THAN THAT, THERE IS NO RESTRICTION ON THE LOCATION.

SOME PEOPLE USUALLY PUT THEM NEAR A PROPERTY LINE JUST NOT TO HAVE IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR YARD.

BUT NORMALLY WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS FOR DOG RUNS IT'S BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

>> ACCORDING TO OUR STANDARD THEY ARE NOT TO BE USED FOR A PERMANENT LIVING AREA FOR A DOG.

ACCORDING TO THE STANDARD.

CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> YOU HAVE HAD COMPLAINTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS ON NOISE?

>> I BELIEVE ORIGINALLY, BUT I HAVEN'T HAD ANY NOISE COMPLAINTS LATELY.

>> STRICTLY ON THE DOG RUN, IF IT WERE SUBMITTED LIKE THIS, IT WOULDN'T BE â€'â€' THERE WOULD BE NO VARIANCE, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> SO OTHER THAN NOISE, AND IT WOULD BE NICE TO GET SOME MORE LANDSCAPING IN THE

[02:00:03]

BACKYARD, BUT AS FAR AS THE DOG RUN ITSELF, PROBABLY NO VARIANCE RIGHT NOW.

>> BECAUSE IT REQUIRED A VARIANCE PREVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF THE LOCATION.

>> RIGHT.

NOW THAT IT'S BEEN MOVED THE VARIANCE ISN'T NEEDED.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

MMâ€'HMM.

BUT WE BROUGHT IT BACK BECAUSE IT ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN AT THE DSC WITH A CONDITION.

INSTEAD OF WITHDRAWING THE OTHER ONE AND SUBMITTING A NEW APPLICATION.

>> YEP.

>> WE ARE BEING ASKED TO REâ€'REVIEW THE ORIGINAL CONDITION WHICH WAS THE SCREENING.

>> THE SCREEN TO THE REAR FOR THE DOG RUN.

>> AND TO ROBERT'S POINT, WHERE IT IS NOW IT IS PROBABLY RIGHT IN COMPLIANCE.

>> RIGHT.

>> SO IF WE ADD A CONDITION THAT IN THE FUTURE ANY COMPLAINTS COME UP FROM THE REAR NEIGHBOR THEN IT WOULD EMPOWER STAFF TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO RECTIFY THE SITUATION WITH SCREENING WITHOUT HAVING TO COME BACK TO A COMMITTEE.

>> EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S BEING UTILIZED AS A PERMANENT LIVING AREA WHICH

IS AGAINST â€'â€' >> HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?

>> SHE JUST TOLD US.

>> CALLER: NO, I DIDN'T.

>> YOU SAID THE DOGS ARE NOT INSIDE BECAUSE OF YOUR SON'S ASTHMA OR HIS CONDITION.

>> CALLER: RIGHT.

THEY'RE NOT INSIDE.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY'RE 24/7 IN THIS LOCATION.

IT'S A WAY FOR THEM TO HAVE SHELTER AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IF WE DO HAVE LAWN MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE HAVE A PLACE TO KEEP THEM.

IF THE KIDS ARE OUTSIDE JUMPING ON THE TRAMPOLINE.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S USED FOR.

IT'S NOT PERMANENT LIVING.

>> SO THE DOGS RUN IN THE BACKYARD ALL DAY? YOU PUT THEM IN THERE AT NIGHT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? YOUR CHILDREN MUST PLAY OUTSIDE.

>> CALLER: RIGHT.

WELL, YEAH.

WHEN MY CHILDREN ARE OUTSIDE WE PUT THEM IN THE KENNEL.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.

WHEN WE'RE DOING LAWN WORK, WHEN WE HAVE â€'â€' RECENTLY WE HAD OUR DOG GET BIT BY THE NEIGHBOR'S DOG AND WE HAD TO RESOLVE THAT WITH THEM AND GET SOMETHING FIXED OVER THERE SO THEY HAD TO BE IN THERE WHILE WE GOT SOMETHING FIXED BECAUSE I WASN'T GOING TO LET MY DOG GET BIT AGAIN.

THINGS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S FOR.

SO THAT THEY HAVE A PLACE TO GO THAT'S SAFE WHENEVER IT'S NOT SAFE FOR THEM TO BE OUT OR NOT SAFE FOR MY KIDS OR WHATEVER.

>> WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO?

>> WELL, SINCE TONIGHT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO REVIEW THE SCREENING CONDITION AND NOT GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE APPLICATION, IF WE WANTED TO REâ€'LOOK AT THE ENTIRE APPLICATION WE WOULD HAVE TO TABLE THIS AND BRING IT BACK AND PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THAT, CORRECT, NES?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU REVIEWED THE ENTIRE APPLICATION AND CONDITIONALLY APPROVED THE LOCATION IN FEBRUARY.

>> RIGHT.

>> AND THE USE.

>> SO AS FAR AS THE CONDITION FOR SCREENING, I WOULD SAY THE CURRENT LOCATION MAKES IT â€'â€' AT LEAST THE LOCATION MEET THE STANDARDS AND THERE IS NO VARIANCE REQUIRED.

I WOULD ASK THE COMMITTEE TO KEEP AS A CONDITION SHOULD THERE BE ANY COMPLAINTS FROM THE REAR NEIGHBOR THEN STAFF CAN WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO REINSTALL THE SCREENING.

SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO ANOTHER COMMITTEE.

UNLESS THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO TABLE THIS AND REâ€'LOOK AT THE ENTIRE APPLICATION FOR USE OF THE ACTUAL DOG RUN WHETHER IT'S BEING USED FOR PERMANENT LIVING AREA.

THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS I THINK WE HAVE ON THE TABLE OR COULD HAVE ON THE TABLE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THAT THEN?

>> I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT IN ITS CURRENT LOCATION AS REVISED THAT THE SCREENING REQUIREMENT BASICALLY BE PUT ON HOLD, STAY AS A CONDITION, BE UTILIZED IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS BY THE REAR NEIGHBOR AND EMPOWER STAFF TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO REINSTITUTE ACTUAL PLANTING A SCREEN TO RESOLVE THE COMPLAINT.

THAT WOULD BE MY MOTION.

>> SO YOU'RE GRANTING THAT SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO â€'â€' CAN YOU SAY YOUR MOTION ONE

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MORE TIME?

>> YEAH.

MY MOTION WOULD BE THE REVISED LOCATION, THE REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAD BEFORE FOR SCREENING WOULD REMAIN AS A CONDITION, BUT NOT EXECUTED UNLESS THERE IS A COMPLAINT FROM THE REAR NEIGHBOR.

I'M ONLY â€'â€' WALT, I'M FOCUSING ON WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR TO LOOK AT WAS THE REQUEST TO LOOK AT THE CONDITION OF SCREENING.

BUT IF THE COMMITTEE FEELS THAT NEW INFORMATION HAS BEEN OBTAINED AS FAR AS THE USE OF THE ACTUAL DOG RUN INTO LIVING AREA THEN WE SHOULD TABLE THIS AND HAVE IT AT ANOTHER MEETING TO REVIEW THE ENTIRE APPLICATION.

I'M JUST TRYING TO STAY WITHIN WHAT THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN REQUESTED.

>> OKAY.

SO YOU'RE ALLOWING THE SCREENING, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

THEN YOU'RE GOING TO TABLE IT SO WE CAN REVIEW THE TOTAL APPLICATION?

>> WELL, I'M WILLING TO TABLE IT IF THE REST OF THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL USE OF THIS DOG RUN AS IT WAS NOT APPARENT WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE FIRST â€'â€' WHEN IT FIRST CAME BEFORE THE COMMITTEE THAT THIS WOULD BE MORE AS INDICATED PERMANENT LIVING FOR THE DOGS WHICH IS REALLY NOT IN OUR STANDARDS.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> SO ARE YOU TABLING IT OR DID YOU MAKE BOTH MOTIONS?

>> BOTH MOTIONS.

WE ARE ALLOWING â€'â€' >>  â€'â€' REQUIRED AT THIS TIME, BUT YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK BECAUSE OF THE USE.

>> YES.

>> THERE'S A CONSENSUS BY THE COMMITTEE THEY WANT TO BRING THE APPLICATION BACK AT ANOTHER MEETING TO LOOK AT THE USE.

>> CALLER: HOW EXACTLY IS THAT GOING TO BE DETERMINED? I MEAN, I'M ALREADY UNDER A MICROSCOPE.

I GET A LETTER EVERY TIME SOMEBODY DRIVES BY MY HOUSE.

THIS IS SO RIDICULOUS.

I HAVE DONE WHAT YOU SAID I HAD TO DO.

I HAVE DONE IT ALL.

I MOVED IT.

I DID WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO.

I MOVED IT MORE.

THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED AND NOW YOU'RE TAKING IT AWAY.

SERIOUSLY? AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DETERMINE IF THEY ARE IN THERE ALL THE TIME.

ARE YOU GOING TO PUT A CAMERA IN MY BACKYARD? HOW IS THIS GOING TO BE DETERMINED? IS SOMEONE GOING TO SHOW UP ALL THE TIME? WHAT?

>> WE HAVE A STANDARD THAT YOU CAN'T USE THIS AS A PERMANENT HOME FOR THE DOGS.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROVE THAT? THAT IT'S NOT OR THAT IT IS? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT? AND WHY ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THIS ANYWAY? THIS WASN'T EVER SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY SAID.

IT'S NOT LIKE I HAVE HAD A NEIGHBOR CALL IN AND SAY I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE THIS IS A PERMANENT LIVING SITUATION FOR THESE DOGS.

>> WELL, WE HAVE TWO NEIGHBOR COMPLAINTS THAT SAY THAT IT IS.

>> CALLER: WHEN? WHERE? WHO?

>> IT'S ON THE AGENDA.

>> CALLER: THAT SAID WHAT? THEY SPECIFICALLY SAID THAT IT'S A PERMANENT LIVING SITUATION?

>> SAID THE DOGS ARE IN THERE ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

>> SAID THE DOGS ARE LEFT OUTSIDE ALL DAY AND ALL NIGHT.

>> CALLER: THEY ARE LEFT OUTSIDE.

THAT'S WHERE THEY LIVE.

>> YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT WITHIN THE STANDARDS.

SO BY COMMUNICATING THAT â€'â€' WE ARE GOING TO REVIEW â€'â€' REâ€'REVIEW THE APPLICATION AT ANOTHER MEETING ABOUT THE USE OF THE DOG RUN.

DOG RUNS AREN'T DESIGNED TO HAVE DOGS IN THE DOG RUNS 24/7 OUTSIDE.

>> CALLER: FIRST OF ALL, THIS ISN'T â€'â€' OKAY.

A DOG RUN BY DEFINITION IS A DOG ON A CABLE THAT'S TIED BY A LEASH TO A CABLE.

THIS IS A DOG KENNEL.

A DOG RUN IS SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

THAT WOULD BE TORTURE TO HAVE AN ANIMAL ON A DOG RUN FOR THAT LONG TIED TO A BUNGEE CABLE 24/7.

THAT WOULD BE HORRIBLE.

HAVING THIS KENNEL TO BE ABLE TO USE SO THAT WITH THE GATE WIDE OPEN SO THEY CAN GO IN THERE AND LAY DOWN, WHATEVER, THROUGHOUT THE DAY BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR PORCH

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BLOCKED OFF BECAUSE THEY WILL DESTROY EVERYTHING THAT'S ON THERE, I HAVE MY KIDS' BIKES AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO THEY'RE NOT UNDER THE PORCH, BUT THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THIS.

SO THEY HAVE A PLACE SO THEY CAN GO.

THE DOOR IS LEFT OPEN ALL THE TIME.

EXCEPT WHEN WE ARE OUTSIDE, IF I HEAR COYOTES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT'S LIKE WHATEVER BECAUSE WE HAVE A DIRECT OPENING RIGHT THERE.

I MIGHT PUT THEM IN THERE AT NIGHT.

SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

THAT'S ALL THAT IT'S USED FOR.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, MA'AM.

REGARDLESS, THE COMMITTEE DOES EVALUATE THE CONCERNS OF THE STANDARDS.

WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT THOSE AND WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU AT A LATER TIME.

>> CALLER: BUT WHAT â€'â€' CAN I ASK WHAT'S GOING TO BE EXPECTED RIGHT NOW?

>> WELL, RIGHT NOW YOU ASKED US TO EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD LOOK AT THE PLANTING OF THE EVERGREENS AND WE AGREED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

>> CALLER: RIGHT.

AND NOW YOU'RE MAKING ME GO THROUGH IT ALL OVER AGAIN LIKE I DID IN FEBRUARY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW IF I USE THAT AS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE OR NOT? HOW ARE YOU GOING TO KNOW?

>> WELL, WALT, I THINK WE HAVE PROVIDED A FAIR AMOUNT OF TIME FOR THE APPLICATION.

THE CONDITION THAT WE WERE ASKED TO REVIEW WE REVIEWED IT.

WE TOOK AN ACTION WHERE THAT HAS BEEN BASICALLY PUT ON HOLD WITH THE SCREENING UNLESS THERE IS A COMPLAINT.

THE USE CAME UP IN THE DISCUSSION.

I THINK STAFF WILL PRESENT THIS AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND DETERMINE WHETHER THIS IS A DOG RUN, DOG HOUSE, DOG KENNEL, AND WE'LL REVIEW THAT.

THE HOMEOWNER WILL COME AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO ASK THE HOMEOWNER SOME QUESTIONS AS A COMMITTEE.

>> I AGREE.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

WE CAN GO ON TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.

>> OKAY.

[VIII.32. Consideration and discussion regarding drainage issues at 27 Liberty Branch and surrounding area due to adjacent improvements. Additionally, discussion in regard to drainage requirements for improvements per The Woodlands Residential Development Standards. James Canning 30 Liberty Branch Boulevard Lot 8, Block 8, Section 32 Village of Creekside Park]

NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REQUEST THAT WAS MADE DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS BY A MR. JAMES CANNING, OWNER OF 30 LIBERTY BRANCH.

HE ASKED TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE IN REGARD TO DRAINAGE AND RUNâ€'OFF ISSUES.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF HIS PROPERTY.

IT'S IN CREEK SIDE PARK.

LIBERTY BRANCH.

IN THIS AREA, JUST AERIAL PHOTO OF HIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

I WENT AHEAD AND PUT IN THE ORIGINAL GRADING PLAN WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS BUILT.

YOU CAN SEE THE ELEVATIONS.

IT'S THIS LOCATION RIGHT HERE.

THIS GRADING PLAN WAS CREATED BEFORE THEY BUILT THE HOMES BACK HERE, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT ALL THE WATER, THE RUNOFF IS SUPPOSED TO GO THIS WAY.

I BELIEVE â€'â€' IS MR. CANNING ONLINE? PLEASE HIT STARâ€'9 TO RAISE YOUR HAND.

HE SUBMITTED THE NEXT SLIDES FOR REVIEW.

MR. CANNING? HAVE YOU CALLED IN? PLEASE HIT STARâ€'9.

I DO NOT SEE HIS HAND RAISED.

HE DID TELL ME EARLIER TODAY HE WOULD BE ON THE CALL.

SO I'M NOT SURE WHY HE'S NOT CALLING IN.

MR. CANNING, IF YOU'RE WATCHING YOU NEED TO CALL THE NUMBER THAT I SENT YOU IN THE Eâ€'MAIL SO YOU COULD CALL IN AND BE ON THE CALL, ON THE VIDEO.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO TABLE THIS AND GO TO THE NEXT ONE? WALT?

>> I'M THINKING.

>> OKAY.

>> IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN RESOLVE ANYWAY? IS THIS NOT AN ISSUE OF THE STATE LAW OF TEXAS ON WATER?

>> MR. CANNING WANTED TO ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE WHO HAS TALKED TO VARIOUS ENTITIES ALL AROUND SGRA.

I BELIEVE HE TALKED TO OUR ENGINEERING TECHS WITH THE TOWNSHIP IN REGARD TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUES ON HIS PROPERTY.

IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A POOL HERE AND A POOL HERE.

ACTUALLY DSC JUST APPROVED A POOL HERE THAT'S IN THE EASEMENT.

WELL, NOT APPROVED BUT THEY REQUIRED CONDITIONS TO ALLOW THIS POOL TO BE BUILT IN THE

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EASEMENT WHICH ALSO REQUIRED A SEALED DRAINAGE PLAN.

THIS POOL â€'â€' I BELIEVE IT'S THIS POOL THAT WAS BUILT ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO â€'â€' I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY YEARS AGO, BUT THIS WAS PRIOR TO THE CURRENT REQUIREMENT TO HAVE A DRAINAGE PLAN.

THERE WAS â€'â€' >> OKAY.

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.

LET'S MOVE ON AND IF HE COMES ON WE'LL GO BACK TO IT.

>> OKAY.

WAIT A MINUTE.

I SEE A HAND RAISED NOW.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME GO BACK TO HIS STATEMENT.

HELLO, MR. CANNING? PLEASE HIT STARâ€'6 TO UNMUTE.

>> CALLER: HELLO.

THIS IS JAMES CANNING.

>> YOU'RE LIVE WITH THE COMMITTEE.

GO AHEAD.

I HAVE YOUR FIRST SCREEN UP.

>> CALLER: I HAVE BEEN HITTING STARâ€'9, STARâ€'9, STARâ€'9 FOR THE LAST â€'â€' AND IT WOULDN'T LET ME IN.

SO MY APOLOGIES.

I THINK YOU CORRECTLY.

COURT FRANKLY.

YOU HAVE SEEN MY PRESENTATION AND IT'S BEEN CORRECTLY CHARACTERIZED.

WHEN WE GOT THE HOUSE, TWO OF THE HOUSES WERE NOT BEHIND US.

WE HAD NO ISSUE IN OUR BACKYARD.

THE TWO HOUSES HAVE BEEN BUILT AND YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURES I SUBMITTED.

WE GET FLOODED EVERY TIME THERE IS A HARD RAIN AND THAT MIGHT BE AN INCH AN HOUR RAIN, TYPICAL HOUSTON RAIN.

IT'S NOT A FLOODING RAIN.

IT'S JUST OUR RAIN.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

FRANKLY, THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE TO ME AS A HOMEOWNER THAT THIS SHOULD BE ALLOWED.

IT ALSO OCCURS TO MY NEIGHBORS â€'â€' ONE TO THE UPHILL SIDE OF ME AND DOWNHILL OF ME, THE SAME THING.

YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.

SILT IS COMING THROUGH THE FENCE.

I HAVE HAD THE BUILDERS OUT.

THE BUILDERS SAY THEY BUILT ACCORDING TO THE DESIGN STANDARDS, WHAT THE TOWNSHIP WANTS.

SO IT'S NOT OUR PROBLEM.

I HAVE HAD THE TOWNSHIP OUT.

THEY GAVE ME TIPS ON THINGS TO DO FOR FLOW THROUGH THE YARD AND I HAVE DONE THAT.

I STILL SEE, AS YOU CAN SEE IN THE PICTURES, I'M STILL EXPERIENCING THIS ISSUE.

I GET EROSION ALONG THE FENCE LINE.

I GET EROSION AT THE SHRUBBERY SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THE PICTURE â€'â€' THE LEFT ONE IN THE FRONT YARD.

MY SHRUBS IN THE FRONT ARE INUNDATED.

THERE'S ROCKS IN THOSE SHRUBS NOW ALONG THE SIDEWALK AND THE ROCKS GET WASHED INTO THE SIDEWALK THERE'S SO MUCH WATER.

NOW, YOU GUYS WERE SAYING WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GET IN THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE ACTIONS I HAVE TAKEN.

I HAVE TRIED TO WORK THIS OUT CONSTRUCTIVELY.

BUT FRANKLY WHAT SURPRISES ME IS YOU SET THE COVENANTS AND APPROVALS REQUIRED BY HOMEOWNERS AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS TO THE IMPACTED HOMEOWNERS.

AS WAS CORRECTLY CHARACTERIZED, ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT PUT IN A POOL HAD TO HAVE A CLOSED DRAINAGE SYSTEM.

THE OTHER ONE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT AND THEY ARE THE ONES WITH THE SILT THAT'S RUNNING THROUGH MY FENCE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE INCONSISTENCY.

IT DOESN'T HELP THE HOMEOWNERS DOWNHILL.

YOU GUYS SHOULD BE TAKING A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO HELPING THE FOLKS WHO ARE DOWNHILL AND KEEP US FROM GETTING FLOODED.

I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD LIKE THIS IF IT WAS IN YOUR YARD.

IT HAPPENS EVERY TIME WE GET A HARD RAIN.

IT'S JUST NOT FAIR.

I THINK A HOMEOWNER MENTIONED EARLIER YOU GUYS ARE â€'â€' ] YOUR SHRUBS NEED TO BE TRIMMED, YOU HAVE A BARE SPOT IN THE YARD THAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED.

SOMETHING THAT'S A REAL PROBLEM THAT'S DAMAGING MY FENCE LINE, ERODING MY LANDSCAPING.

IT DAMAGES THE SHRUBBERY AND SO ON.

THAT NEVER SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE FOR YOU GUYS.

AS A COVENANT STATE IT SHOULD BE RECTIFIED BETWEEN HOMEOWNERS AND THAT DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT TO ME.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

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MY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE BACK REQUIRE COMPREHENSIVE ENGINEERED DRAINAGE PLANS BEFORE THESE THINGS ARE BUILT.

WORK BETTER WITH THE CONTRACTORS, THE BUILDERS AND OTHER OWNERS TO MAKE SURE OWNERS AREN'T IMPACTED.

I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU FOLKS DO ON BEHALF OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHO ARE IMPACTED BY THESE KINDS OF THINGS.

THANK YOU.

>> HOW LONG HAVE YOU LIVED IN THAT HOME?

>> CALLER: WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE IN â€'â€' WE MOVED IN IN MARCH OF 2018 AND THE HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 2016 BY THE PREVIOUS OWNERS.

THEY MOVED INÂ IN EARLY 2017 AND GOT TRANSFERRED TO CALIFORNIA AND HAD TO SELL.

THERE WERE NO HOUSES â€'â€' SORRY.

THERE WAS ONE HOUSE UPSTREAM THAT WAS ALREADY THERE.

THE TWO HOUSES DIRECTLY BEHIND US WEREN'T THERE WHEN WE MOVED IN.

I'LL SAY AGAIN WE DID NOT HAVE THIS FLOODING ISSUE IN OUR BACKYARD WHEN WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE AND MOVED IN.

>> NES, CAN YOU PUT UP THE MAP ONE MORE TIME THAT SHOWS THE HOMES? OKAY.

SO YOUR HOME IS 30 â€'â€'

>> OKAY.

WHICH HOMES WERE BUILT THAT CAUSED THE FLOODING?

>> THE ONES THAT WERE BUILT AFTER WE MOVED IN WERE DIRECTLY BEHIND US.

IT'S 23 AND 27 WOODBORO.

>> SO THE TWO HOMES BEHIND YOU.

>> CALLER: YES, SIR.

>> THESE TWO.

>> GO BACK TO THE DRAINAGE MAP THAT YOU HAD.

>> THERE IT GOES.

THIS PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

THIS PLAN WAS BEFORE THEY BUILT THE HOUSES IN THE REAR.

>> DO WE HAVE A MAP WITH THE HOUSES BUILT IN THE REAR, WHERE THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO RUN OFF?

>> NO, I DON'T.

>> WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

>> YEP.

>> WE NEED THE DRAINAGE ON THE OTHER LOTS.

>> THE WAY IT SETS UP NOW â€'â€' >> CAN WE GET A DRAINAGE PLAN OF THE OTHER NEIGHBORS AND MATCH THEM TOGETHER?

>> OKAY.

>> CALLER: MAY I ASK, WHAT WILL YOU DO WITH THAT? I HAVE SEEN THE DRAINAGE PLAN.

IN FACT, THE TOWNSHIP PROVIDED ME THAT.

BUT IT WAS ALSO THE ONES THAT'S BEING SHOWN TO YOU NOW THAT WAS BEFORE THOSE TWO HOUSES WERE BUILT.

>> MR. CANNING, WHAT ARE YOU IN.

>> 386.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I HAVE HAD THE MUD OUT, TOO, BY THE WAY.

REALLY JUST TO SEE IF WE'VE GOT A SATURATION ISSUE WITH PEOPLE OVERWATERING THEIR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS SO WHEN IT RAINS IT'S CAUSING MORE RUNOFF AND DRAINAGE.

THE MUD SAYS WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

IF THAT'S HAPPENING WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU, THE BACK OF MY YARD STAYS SOGGY A LOT OF THE TIME EXCEPT DURING THE HEAT OF THE SUMMER.

I THINK IT'S BECAUSE OF OVERWATERING.

IT JUST DOESN'T EVER GET TO DRY OUT.

AND AS I MENTIONED IN MY PRESENTATION, I HAVE INSTALLED SEVEN WAX MYRTLES BACK THERE TO TRY AND MAKE THE SOIL MORE PERMEABLE.

>> MR. CANNING, ON YOUR PROPERTY DO YOU HAVE ANY DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT MOVES THE WATER OUT FRONT?

>> CALLER: YES, SIR.

WE HAVE BUILDERâ€'INSTALLED FRENCH DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. SO THEY MOVE WATER â€'â€' THEY GO BOTH SIDES OF THE HOUSE.

AND THEY WORKED FINE BEFORE THOSE HOUSES WERE BUILT BEHIND US.

THEY'RE OVERWHELMED IN A HEAVY RAIN.

>> OKAY.

>> CALLER: I MEAN, YOU'RE LOOKING AT PICTURES AND THAT'S WITH THE FRENCH DRAINS WORKING.

MY FRENCH DRAINS ARE CLEAR, BY THE WAY.

I CHECK THEM AND MAKE SURE ALL OF THAT IS WORKING WELL.

AND THEY ARE.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT OBSERVATION AND COMMENTS.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU GUYS FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU.

I GUESS â€'â€' I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME UP â€'â€' >> WITH THE GRADING PLAN THIS IS JUST CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION ITEM.

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>> SO WE NEED TO GET THE DRAINAGE FOR BOTH NEIGHBORHOODS AND MATCH THEM TOGETHER TO SEE WHETHER IT WAS CONTEMPLATED FOR ALL THE DRAINAGE ON ONE LOT TO GO THROUGH THE OTHER LOT TO THE STREET OR NOT.

TYPICALLY YOU WOULD HAVE A DRAINAGE EASEMENT ON THE OTHER LOTS.

I DON'T KNOW.

>> CALLER: CORRECT.

YOU'RE CORRECT.

I CAN TELL YOU MY NEIGHBOR TWO DOORS DOWN INSTALLED A POOL.

THEY CHANGED THEIR WHOLE BACKYARD.

UNTIL THEY DID THAT, THEY HAD WATER GET UP ON THEIR PATIO DUE TO THIS ISSUE.

AND SO I AGREE WITH YOU.

THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT IF IT WAS REALLY GOING TO EXPERIENCE THIS KIND OF RUNâ€'OFF.

BUT WITH THE SHEET DRAINAGE PLAN AS IT IS, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND IT.

IT MAKES SENSE.

BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS THEY HAVE TAKEN ALL THE TREES AWAY.

THEY HAVE OCCUPIED THE PERMEABLE SURFACE AREA WITH THE HOUSE OR A POOL â€'â€' AND/OR A POOL, AND THERE IS NO PLACE FOR THE WATER TO COME EXCEPT DOWNHILL AND THAT'S ME.

>> OKAY.

NES, WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS, DO WE?

>> NO.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS WILL BE ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING?

>> TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE PLAN AND I'M WILLING TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU FOLKS AS WELL.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR CONSIDERING THIS ISSUE FOR ME.

>> OKAY.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING TO US.

WE'LL SEE WHAT WE CAN DO AND EVALUATE WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO PUT IT ON THE NEXT MEETING.

>> CALLER: GOTCHA.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WALT, I THINK WHAT THE COMMITTEE HAS DONE IS PUT IN NEW STANDARDS REALLY LOOKING DOWNSTREAM AND TRYING TO RECTIFY ISSUES AS WE GO FORWARD.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S THE NEXT ONE, NES?

>> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 3 STAR IRIS.

[VIII.33. Variance request for proposed tree removals. Will and Stephanie Hendricks 3 Star Iris Place Lot 25, Block 01, Section 14 Village of Creekside Park West]

3 STAR IRIS IS THE ONE THAT HAD THE PLAY STRUCTURE THAT WAS ON SUMMARY.

SO WE'LL BE REVIEWING BOTH OF THOSE.

SO LET ME GO AHEAD AND GO WITH THE TREE REMOVAL FIRST.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP AND YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

THIS IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THE GROUP OF TREES LOCATED HERE AND THAT PLAY STRUCTURE IS LOCATED HERE CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE.

THEY ARE REQUESTING FOUR TREES TO BE REMOVED THAT WERE NONAPPROVED INITIALLY.

THERE ARE SOME OTHER TREES THAT ARE MARKED BUT THOSE ARE ALL UNDER SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER.

THERE ARE THREE PINES AND ONE WE FOUND OUT LATER WAS NOT MARKED.

THEY THOUGHT IT WAS THE TREE NEXT TO IT.

BUT IT'S A TALO, SO THEY DON'T NEED A PERMIT TO REMOVE THAT.

HERE'S YOUR PUZZLE.

THE FRONT VIEWS OF THE HOME.

YOU CAN SEE THE PLAY STRUCTURE FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HOME IN THE BACK.

IT HAS A GREEN TARP WHICH IS ALLOWED.

THESE ARE THE TREES THAT THEY ARE ASKING TO REMOVE.

THE ONES IN RED ARE THE ONES THAT REQUIRE â€'â€' WELL, FOUR, NINE AND TEN REQUIRE AN APPLICATION.

FIVE â€'â€' THIS IS THE TALLOW YOU SEE HERE.

THE OTHERS ARE PINES AND THE OTHERS ARE THESE LITTLE TREES IN HERE THAT ARE LESS THAN SIX INCHES IN DIAMETER.

JUST ANOTHER VIEW OF THE TREES FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU CAN SEE THESE ARE THE TREES THAT ARE REQUESTING FOR REMOVAL.

THERE'S A 6.7 INCH, 7.3 AND A 7.6 INCH PINE.

ANOTHER VIEW FROM THE BACKYARD.

YOU CAN SEE THAT PLAY STRUCTURE.

THESE ARE JUST OTHER TREES.

THIS IS THE GROUP OF TREES OVER HERE.

THIS IS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.

SO THE LEFT REAR CORNER LOOKING TOWARD THAT GROUP OF TREES.

THE HOMEOWNER BASICALLY WANTED TO REMOVE THE TREES TO GET SOME MORE USEABLE SPACE IN THE BACKYARD.

MAYBE ALLOW A LITTLE BIT BETTER DRAINAGE AND WANTED TO GET THE GRASS TO GROW.

THEY SAID THEY HAVE 17 TREES IN THE REAR YARD LEFT IF THEY WERE ALLOWED TO CUT

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THESE THREE ADDITIONAL TREES.

THEY'LL STILL HAVE 17 TREES IN THE BACKYARD.

I THINK THERE'S ALSO A TOTAL OF, LIKE, 60 TREES ON THE PROPERTY.

INITIALLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CANOPY COVERAGE YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES IN THIS AREA AND IN HERE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE TREES THAT THEY WANTED TO REMOVE.

THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW TO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITHOUT THE THREE TREES, WHICH ARE ALL PINES WHICH I SHOWED YOU.

I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO A DIFFERENT POWERPOINT BECAUSE I DIDN'T INCLUDE THE PLAY STRUCTURE PHOTOS IN THIS POWERPOINT BECAUSE I HAD INITIALLY PUT THOSE ON SUMMARY.

DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE TREES FIRST BEFORE I DID THAT?

>> YEAH, GO AHEAD.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE COMMENTS ABOUT THE TREES?

>> IT'S JUST A SIDE COMMENT.

IT'S INTERESTING ABOUT THE TALLOW DOESN'T NEED THE APPLICATION.

OUT IN THE COUNTRY THEY'RE GROWING ALL OVER THE PLACE IN PASTURES.

>> YEAH.

IT'S AN INVASIVE SPECIES.

WE DON'T LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THEM.

>> IN THE COUNTRY THEY DON'T LIKE THEM EITHER IN THE PASTURES.

THAT WAS JUST A SIDE COMMENT.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THE OTHER TREES.

>> THAT'S A LOT OF TREES, WALT.

BIG SIZES, TOO.

NES, DOES THE HOMEOWNER UNDERSTAND IF HE DID GET APPROVAL HE HAS TO REPLANT COMPARABLE TREES FOR THE LOSS OF THE CANOPY?

>> THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE COMMITTEE.

IF THE COMMITTEE BELIEVES THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT CANOPY ON THE LOT ACCORDING TO OUR STANDARDS HE WOULD NOT HAVE TO.

BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COMMITTEE.

THE TREES ARE ACTUALLY SMALL.

7 INCHES IS THE CUT OFF.

6.7, 7.6 AND 7.3 ARE THE SIZES OF THE TREES.

>> ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD WITH YOUR NEXT SLIDE.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

LET ME STOP SHARING THIS.

DO YOU SEE THE SLIDE WHERE IT SAYS 3 STAR IRIS?

>> WE CAN'T SEE ANYTHING.

JUST YOU.

>> PARDON ME?

>> I WANT TO SHARE MY SCREEN.

I'M HAVING DIFFICULTY WITH THIS.

DO YOU SEE IT NOW?

>> YES.

>> WE WENT OVER THE LOCATION.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

IT IS ABOUT FIVE FEET â€'â€' WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

I'M SORRY.

IT'S 11 FEET, FOUR INCHES TO THE PEAK.

SO IT'S OKAY WITHIN THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT.

IT ENCROACHES ABOUT TWO AND A HALF FEET INTO THAT REAR TENâ€'FOOT EASEMENT.

HERE ARE THE TECHNICAL PLANS FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

ANOTHER VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE IN THE REAR YARD THE REASON WHY THEY LOCATED IT IN THE BACK AREA HERE IS

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BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE LAWN HAS AN ELEVATION DROP TO HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THAT ALSO OVER THERE WHERE THE TREES ARE.

THIS WAS THE FLATTEST AREA TO ALLOW FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

THIS IS JUST A VIEW FROM THE FRONT.

THEY SAID THEY HAD IT INSTALLED BY TREE FROGS.

THE REASON I ALREADY SAID WAS WHY THEY INSTALLED IT IN THAT FLAT AREA.

ALSO, THERE'S GOOD DRAINAGE ISSUES THERE.

SO THERE'S THE SURVEY ONCE MORE.

THAT WAS THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE TREES.

LET ME GO TO â€'â€' HERE WE GO.

THE DISTANCE TO THE REAR FENCE, ACCORDING TO THE OWNER, IS SEVEN AND A HALF FEET TO THIS LOCATION HERE.

THIS IS BEFORE STAFF WAS GOING INTO THE FIELD WHICH WAS RECENTLY FOR US.

SO THESE PHOTOS WERE PROVIDED BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

THIS LEG IS SIX FEET TEN INCHES FROM THE REAR FENCE.

LEGS ON PLAY STRUCTURES ARE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH THREE FEET INTO THE REAR.

SO THIS IS JUST A SLIGHT BIT MORE.

HOWEVER THIS PART BACK HERE WAS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

IT'S THE FORT WHICH IS NOT ALLOWED TO ENCROACH INTO THE REAR EASEMENT.

THERE'S EIGHT FEET TO THIS POINT RIGHT HERE.

THIS GOES ON TO THE TREES.

THAT'S THE INFORMATION FOR THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

>> IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE LINE?

>> LET ME CHECK.

>> WE HAVE ONE HAND RAISED.

>> ONE HAND RAISED.

LET ME CHECK AND SEE.

HELLO.

CALLER ENDING 0353, YES.

ARE YOU THE OWNER?

>> CALLER: YES.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? THIS IS WILL HENDRICKS.

>> WE CAN HEAR YOU.

STATE YOUR NAME AND YOU CAN ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.

>> CALLER: MY NAME IS WILL HENDRICKS.

WE MOVED INTO THE AREA IN JANUARY RIGHT BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

OF COURSE IT'S BEEN A STRUGGLE TO GET OUT AND MEET THE NEIGHBORS AND STUFF.

THIS HELPED ME MEET THEM BECAUSE I WALKED AROUND AND TALKED TO SEVERAL BECAUSE OF THIS.

THE TWO REQUESTS WE HAVE LIKE YOU MENTIONED, YOU DESCRIBED THE PLAY SET PERFECTLY.

THERE IS A NATURAL DRAINAGE CHANNEL SIMILAR WITH THE DISCUSSION YOU HAD PREVIOUS ON EITHER SIDE OF OUR HOUSE.

SO WE GET PRETTY MUCH A RIVER DUE TO THE DRAINAGE FROM THE LOTS BEHIND US.

SO WE ARE TRYING NOT TO ENCROACH INTO THE DRAINAGE TO ALLOW THE NATURAL FLOW OF WATER.

WE ARE WORKING WITH THE GARDENERS TO INCREASE OUR FRENCH DRAINS FROM THE FOUR INCH TO EIGHT INCH DRAINS TO MAINTAIN THE WATER THAT COMES OFF THE LOT.

THAT'S RUN WITHIN.

PLUS, BECAUSE OF THE DIVE DOWN IN THE ELEVATION, THE WAY WE COULD GET IT TO WHERE IT'S LEVEL FOR THE KIDS WE HAD TO GO FARTHER BACK.

YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE TREES.

WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.

WHAT TYPE OF TREES VERSUS THE TYPE OF CANOPY YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

THAT CONCERNS ME WITH THE YOUNG KIDS RUNNING BETWEEN THE PLAY SET AND THE BACK FENCE.

AS LONG AS I UNDERSTAND THAT, WE COULD LOOK AT IT.

THE TREES IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, IT'S ALMOST OVERGROWN.

THERE ARE SEVERAL PINE TREES.

WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE BECAUSE OF THE TREES ON THE HOUSE, ON THE LOT.

THAT'S ONE THING WE ENJOY COMING FROM THE CITY MOVING OUT THIS WAY.

WE LIKE THE COVERAGE.

AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF WATER THAT COMES OFF OF THIS AND SO MUCH COVERAGE ON THE BACK OF THE HOUSE I'M NOT ABLE TO GET MUCH SUNLIGHT.

SO WE HAVE AN AREA OF GRASS THAT'S IN THE PICTURE YOU SAW THAT SHOWS THE TREES I HAD PUT INTO THE HOUSE IT'S ALREADY DEAD.

IT'S ALREADY PRETTY MUCH JUST WATERLOGGED ALL THE TIME.

THERE ARE CONCERNS WITH DRAINAGE BECAUSE THERE IS NOT AS MUCH GRASS BEHIND THE HOME.

WHEN WE GET A LARGE RAINFALL NOT EVEN A HEAVY RAINFALL, THE WATER GETS CLOSE TO GETTING INTO OUR BACK PATIO.

SO THERE ARE CONCERNS THERE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO THIN IT OUT A LITTLE BIT AS WELL AS GIVE US MORE USEABLE SPACE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSTON.

AT THIS TIME WE HAVE AN INFLATABLE POOL WE USE FOR OUR YOUNG KIDS.

WE HAD TO PUT IT ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

SO THERE'S NOT MUCH PRIVACY FOR THE KIDS.

WE WOULD LIKE SOMEWHERE WITH MORE PRIVACY BEHIND THE HOUSE ON THE WEEKENDS WITH KIDS.

I HEARD THE COMMENT ABOUT ARE THEY WILLING.

I DID TALK WITH â€'â€' I THINK HER NAME IS DEE.

I SAID ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF THE HOUSE WE'RE LOOKING TO PUT TREES ALREADY TO

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START ADDING PRIVACY.

WE PLANNED TO PLANT TREES AROUND THE ENTIRE HOME AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE HOPEFULLY LOOK AT PUTTING IN A POOL.

IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT WE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT.

IF IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT I WOULD PREFER NOT TO SO WE CAN DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME AND PUT A GRAND PLAN TOGETHER.

THERE WAS NO INTENT TO REMOVE TREES JUST TO REMOVE THEM.

IT'S FOR THE AVAILABILITY OF GREEN SPACE AND TO CLEAN IT UP BECAUSE IT'S FAIRLY OVERGROWN BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY IN A TIGHT SPACE AND THE WATER DRAINAGE CONCERNS US ON THE BACK OF THE HOME.

THAT'S THE REASON WE ARE ASKING FOR THOSE REQUESTS.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY ELSE, NES? OKAY.

ANY COMMENTS?

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

>> RECOMMEND A MOTION ON A PLAY STRUCTURE SEEMS REASONABLE THAT STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED.

IT DEALS WITH THE MOTION TO DISAPPROVE AND CONSENT TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT BASED UPON THE EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING.

MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT, I'M SORRY.

NES, WAS THAT THE INTENT OF STAFF?

>> YES.

THERE WAS ALSO ADDITIONAL ONE TO PLANT AND MAINTAIN EVERGREEN TREES OR SHRUBS TO THE REAR.

THE HOMEOWNER INDICATED EARLIER THAT THAT'S THE REASON WE TOOK IT OFF SUMMARY BECAUSE HE WAS QUESTIONING THAT.

IT IS A NARROW SPACE BACK THERE.

SIX FEET OR SO.

>> TO THE REAR DO WE HAVE HOMES YET OR THEY'RE EMPTY LOTS?

>> THERE'S HOMES THERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CALLER: THERE ARE HOMES BEHIND US, CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> ARE WE GOING TO ADDRESS THE REQUIREMENT FOR VEGETATION OR NOT?

>> I THINK THE COMMITTEE IS THINKING THROUGH THAT, OKAY? TAKING A LOOK AT THE PICTURE WITH THE NARROW SPACE.

>> OKAY.

SORRY.

>> THAT'S OKAY.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, SIR? MR. WALT?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

NES, DO WE HAVE TWO ITEMS? ONE HAS TO DO WITH THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

THE OTHER ONE IS THE TREES, RIGHT?

>> RIGHT.

THE THREE TREES FOR REMOVAL AND THEN THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

>> AND HE RAISED IF HE DOES CUT DOWN THE TREES THERE WILL BE REPLACEMENTS ON THE SIDE, CORRECT?

>> THAT'S WHAT HE DID STATE.

>> CALLER: I DID PUT IN THE APPLICATION IF THAT'S THE REQUIREMENT WE WOULD BE WILLING.

I WOULD PREFER UNTIL WE WORK WITH THE GARDENER TO GET A GRAND PLAN FOR THE ENTIRE YARD.

BUT IF THAT'S A REQUIREMENT I'M MORE THAN WILLING.

WE'D PUT PINE TREES ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

WE MOVED HERE BECAUSE OF THE PINES TO BE HONEST.

>> IT'S REASONABLE IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TREES OUT TO REPLANT AT THIS STAGE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? LET'S COVER THE TREES FIRST.

>> OKAY.

A MOTION FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ON THE TREES.

TALLOW TREE NUMBER FIVE WE DON'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

IT'S INVASIVE.

TREES FOUR, NINE AND TEN, THE TREES IN QUESTION, NES â€'â€' IS THAT CORRECT?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> IF THE COMMITTEE APPROVES THOSE WOULD BE REMOVED AND TO REPLACE ADEQUATE SCREENING ON THE LOT TO REPLACE THAT CANOPY.

AND THE HOMEOWNER COULD WORK WITH STAFF ON THE CANOPY REPLACEMENT.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE â€'â€'

>> WHAT ABOUT A TIME FRAME.

HE WANTS TO WORK WITH HIS GARDENER â€'â€' THREE MONTHS, SIX?

>> THREE MONTHS I WOULD THINK WOULD BE REASONABLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE ALREADY IN AUGUST AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO WINTER TIME.

IF WE'RE GOING TO DO PLANTING WE WANT TO DO IT IN A THREEâ€'MONTH PERIOD.

>> 90 DAYS?

>> YES.

>> NES, WE LEAVE YOU AND STAFF TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER ON CANOPY.

THAT WOULD BE THE MOTION FOR THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER.

>> DO I HAVE A SECOND ON THAT? I'LL SECOND THAT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

>> CALLER: I'M SORRY.

JUST TO CONFIRM.

I'LL BE WORKING WITH DEE TO GET CONFIRMATION.

I WOULD LIKE TO START REMOVING THE TREES BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED BEFORE WINTER I WANT TO GET GRASS AND STUFF SO IT CAN GROW AND I CAN KEEP IT THROUGH THE

[02:45:08]

WINTER.

I CAN START DOING THAT FAIRLY IMMEDIATELY THEN?

>> GO AHEAD, NES.

>> AFTER THE â€'â€' WELL, I BELIEVE WE CALLED FOR A VOTE.

SO YOU'LL BE GETTING AN Eâ€'MAIL WITH YOUR PERMIT AND IT WILL TELL YOU.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

THAT'S PERFECT.

THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE ALLOWED TO REMOVE THOSE TREES.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> OKAY.

SECOND ISSUE IS THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY.

WAS THERE A RECOMMENDED MOTION ON THAT?

>> THERE WAS A RECOMMENDED MOTION FOR MOA, A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT FOR DELAY ENFORCEMENT.

THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A PLANTING MAINTAINING EVERGREEN TREES TO SCREEN TO THE REAR.

IT IS A LIMITED AREA.

ABOUT SIX FEET TEN BEHIND THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

SO THE HOMEOWNER IS ASKING THE COMMITTEE, I GUESS, TO RECONSIDER THAT OR IF THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE HE COULD DO OTHER THAN PLANT.

>> IT'S A TOUGH SPACE TO DEAL WITH AND ALSO HAVE THE KIDS ENJOY IT.

DOES STAFF HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION?

I MEAN, IS IT FEASIBLE â€'â€' >> DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE? ARE THERE TREES OR SHRUBS BEHIND THE FENCE FROM THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.

>> THERE ARE SOME, YES.

>> RIGHT THERE.

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD A COMPLAINT.

>> YOU HAVEN'T?

>> NO.

>> WHAT YOU COULD CONSIDER IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT THAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD WORK WITH THE OTHER HOMEOWNER AND PLANT THE SHRUBS ON THE OTHER HOMEOWNER'S SIDE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SCREENING SHOULD THERE BE A COMPLAINT.

>> I MISSPOKE.

THERE WAS AN AFFECTED NEIGHBOR FROM THE REAR THAT SAID THEY WOULD APPRECIATE IF THERE WAS SOME SCREENING TREES BETWEEN THE PLAY SET AND THE FENCE BECAUSE THEY ASK SEE IT FROM THEIR FIRST FLOOR LIVING ROOM AND BEDROOM.

IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE FENCE.

SO THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

>> YOU KNOW, FROM THIS PICTURE IT LOOKS AS IF YOU COULD SCOOT THE PLAY SET A LITTLE BIT FURTHER FROM THE FENCE.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE DOWNHILL PART RIGHT HERE.

>> MMâ€'HMM.

>> CALLER: CAN I MAKE A COMMENT ON THAT, TOO? IF YOU DON'T MIND.

I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE HOMEOWNER AGAIN.

I WAS OUT THERE THIS LAST WEEKEND LOOKING AT IT.

IF I UNDERSTAND RIGHT, THE TOP OF THAT PLAY DECK TO BE WITHIN COMPLIANCE SHOULD BE TEN FEET FROM THE BACK FENCE, THE WAY I READ THE STANDARD.

I WAS OUT THERE AND I THINK, TO YOUR POINT, IF I SCOOTED IT â€'â€' I DON'T KNOW WHICH PICTURE YOU'RE ON.

I'M SORRY, THE VIDEO IS SLOW ON THIS SIDE.

BUT IF I SCOOT IT FARTHER TO THE WEST SLIGHTLY, I COULD BRING IT FARTHER OFF FROM THE FENCE AND GET CLOSER TO THE TEN FOOT.

BUT WHERE IT'S AT NOW IF I GO FORWARD IT GETS DOWN INTO THE NATURAL DRAINAGE AREA.

I'M TRYING TO AVOID IT.

YOU HAVE TO PUT A LOT OF WOOD THERE TO GET IT LEVEL AND IT SCARES ME WITH THE KIDS HAVING FOUR BY FOURS THERE TO KEEP IT LEVEL.

>> OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

>> CALLER: I'M WILLING, LIKE I SAID.

WHEN THEY PUT IT IN THE LARGE SET OF TREES IN THE BACK CORNER OF THE HOME THAT IT'S NEAR, THEY PUT IT ABOUT SEVEN FOOT FROM THAT SET OF TREES.

I BELIEVE I COULD MOVE IT OVER THREE OR FOUR FEET, TO BE HONEST.

I STILL DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE ROPE SWING THING ON THE END WHERE MY KIDS COULD GET HURT.

I COULD SLIDE IT FORWARD A FOOT, FOOT AND A HALF.

TWO FEET MIGHT BE GETTING CLOSE TO THE TEN FOOT NUMBER.

I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GET THERE 100% WITHOUT GETTING DOWN INTO THE DRAINAGE DITCH IS WHAT SCARES ME.

I THINK I CAN GET AS FAR AS I COULD, I GUESS, TRYING TO GET AS CLOSE TO THE TEN FEET.

I WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ABOUT THE TREES IN THE BACK.

>> WELL, WE CAN HAVE HIM WORK WITH STAFF TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THAT AS CLOSE AS HE CAN.

ALSO THE OTHER CONDITION COULD BE IF THE COMPLAINT CONTINUES IF THIS HOMEOWNER IS WILLING TO TALK TO THE HOMEOWNER BEHIND HIM AND PLANT THE SCREENING ON THE OTHER HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY TO PROVIDE MORE DENSITY.

>> OKAY.

[02:50:02]

ALL RIGHT.

>> CALLER: THAT'S COMPLETELY FAIR.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I'M HEARING THE HOMEOWNER WOULD CONSIDER THAT AS A CONDITION.

>> CALLER: YEAH.

TO BE HONEST THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND ME, I THINK THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES DIRECTLY BEHIND ME THAT HAVE NO PINES.

THEY MUST HAVE REMOVED THEM WHEN THEY MOVED IN.

THEY HAVE A POOL IN THE AREA.

LOOKS LIKE THEY TRIED TO PUT SCREENING UP BUT THE TREES AREN'T VERY THICK.

THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF AIR BETWEEN THE LEAVES AND SUCH.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ARTHUR, COULD I HAVE YOUR MOTION?

>> I WOULD GO WITH THE RECOMMENDED MOTION WITH THE MODIFICATION ON THE SCREENING.

ONE IS THAT THE HOMEOWNER MOVE THE PLAY STRUCTURE AS HE'S INDICATED AS MUCH TO GET IT CLOSE TO THE TENâ€'FOOT AND THAT THE HOMEOWNER WORKS WITH STAFF ON IF ADDITIONAL SCREENING IS REQUIRED THAT THE HOMEOWNER WOULD PLANT THE ADDITIONAL SCREENING ON THE OTHER NEIGHBOR'S SIDE TO PROVIDE HIGHER DENSITY AND THICKNESS TO SCREEN THE PLAY STRUCTURE.

AND RELY UPON STAFF TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS EXECUTED WITH THE INTENT OF WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO DO.

>> THAT'S WITH THE NEIGHBOR TO THE REAR'S â€'â€' >> YES.

YOU KNOW THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS TO PUT IN THE NOTES.

IT WASN'T IN THE MOTION.

BUT THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE THIS MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.

SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO DISAPPROVE AND CONSENT TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT BASED UPON THE EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.

>> OKAY.

>> AND YOU'LL PROVIDE THE HOMEOWNER SPECIFIC DETAILS OF WHAT THAT WILL ENTAIL.

>> YES, WE WILL DO THAT.

THEN THE PLANTING IN THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD IS ONLY REQUIRED IF THE NEIGHBOR IS IN AGREEMENT.

>> YES.

WE'LL LEAVE STAFF TO EXECUTE THAT BETWEEN THE TWO HOMEOWNERS.

>> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED?

>> CALLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> AYES HAVE IT.

THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

APPRECIATE IT.

>> OKAY.

ONCE AGAIN, I HAVE TO STOP SHARING THAT AND GET BACK TO MY OTHER â€'â€' >> I'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

>> DO YOU SEE THE 77 NORTH HOLLYLAUREL.

THIS IS ANOTHER TREE REMOVAL REQUEST.

[VIII.34. Variance request for proposed tree removal. Lawrence R Britt 77 North Hollylaurel Circle Lot 21 Block 02 Section 16 Village of Alden Bridge]

>> RUNNING SPECIALS ON TREE REMOVALS?

>> SURE SEEMS THAT WAY, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

AND YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

IT'S LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

THE LOCATION OF THE TWO TREES IN THE FRONT YARD.

THEY ARE BOTH PINE TREES.

THEY HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO BE REMOVED.

HERE'S YOUR PUZZLE.

HERE'S THE LOCATION RIGHT THERE.

HOMEOWNER SUBMITTED THIS FROM TEXAS TREE SPECIALISTS THAT THE REMOVAL OF THE TWO PINES IN THE FRONT YARD, THEY ARE LEANING TOWARD THE HOUSE AND THEY COULD PRESENT A DANGER.

WE DID LOOK AND SEE IF THIS PERSON WAS A CERTIFIED ARBORIST.

WE COULD NOT FIND THEM ON THE INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF ARBOR CULTURE WEBSITE.

THIS IS THE VARIANCE REQUEST STATING THE REASONS I JUST GAVE YOU ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF THE TREES HAVING SOME FAILURE BECAUSE OF THEIR LEANING TOWARD THE HOUSE.

THEY ALSO DO NOT LIKE THE DEBRIS CAUSED BY THE PINE TREES.

THEY STATED THEY HAVE TO KEEP THEIR CAR COVERED BECAUSE THE SAP FROM THE PINES ARE DESTROYING THE PAINT ON THEIR CAR.

THIS IS THE FRONT ELEVATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE TWO TREES RIGHT THERE.

THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE.

LOCATED RIGHT THERE.

ONE TREE IS 22.3 INCHES IN DIAMETER AND THE OTHER ONE IS 13.69 INCHES IN DIAMETER HERE.

ANOTHER VIEW FROM DIFFERENT SIDES.

YOU CAN SEE ONE OF THE TREES IS A LITTLE SPARSE.

BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY APPEAR TO BE HEALTHY PINE TREES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THE FRONT YARD.

LET ME CHECK AND SEE IF THERE IS ANYBODY HERE.

[02:55:01]

IS THERE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS? 77 NORTH HOLLYLAUREL CIRCLE.

PLEASE HIT STARâ€'9 AND RAISE YOUR HAND.

I DO NOT SEE ANYBODY RAISING THEIR HAND, WALT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR THESE TO BE TAKEN DOWN UNLESS SOMEBODY CAN POINT SOMETHING OUT TO ME ABOUT THE DANGERS.

I MEAN, IF IT'S A HEALTHY TREE, PINE TREES, THAT'S THE WAY THEY ARE.

YES, WE GET PINE NEEDLES ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT'S WHERE WE LIVE.

>> SECOND.

>> GREAT MOTION AND A GREAT SECOND.

>> IS THAT YOU, ROBERT, ON THE SECOND?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS 23 VILLA CANYON PLACE.

[VIII.35. Variance request for proposed fence that may cause neighbor impact. David and Jennifer Kaiser 23 Villa Canyon Place Lot 29, Block 02, Section 18 Village of IS (TWA)]

THIS IS IN THE VILLAGE OF INDIAN SPRINGS.

TWA.

IT IS A FENCE THAT HAS POSSIBLE NEIGHBOR IMPACT.

HERE IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

THIS IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

BASICALLY THEY JUST WANT TO MOVE THEIR SIDE FENCE FORWARD.

THE PERIMETER FENCE IS HERE.

CURRENTLY IT EXTENDS TO THE HOUSE HERE.

THEY WANT TO MOVE IT TO THE CORNER.

IT WOULD BE ABOUT 37 INCHES FROM THE FRONT CORNER OF THE HOUSE WHICH IS COMPLIANT.

THIS IS THE HOMEOWNER'S EXPLANATION OF WHY THEY ARE WANTING TO MOVE THE FENCE.

THEY HAVE SUBMITTED SOME PHOTOS, TOO.

WE'LL GET TO THOSE IN A MINUTE.

I SEE THE HOMEOWNER â€'â€' I BELIEVE THE HOMEOWNER HAS RAISED THEIR HAND.

JUST ANOTHER COUPLE OF PHOTOS FOR YOU.

YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE IS THE LOCATION.

THIS IS ABOUT NINE FEET.

A LITTLE BIT OVER NINE FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE FROM THE HOMEOWNER'S HOUSE.

ANOTHER VIEW.

THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME.

THIS IS WHERE THE EXISTING FENCE IS.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR'S AC UNIT WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE HERE.

>> NES, IS THIS AN RDRC ITEM?

>> NO.

THIS IS NOT AN RDRC ITEM.

THIS IS DSC BECAUSE THE STAFF FELT THERE MIGHT BE NEIGHBOR IMPACT, SO IT WAS BASICALLY DISAPPROVED AND BROUGHT TO YOU.

>> BECAUSE THE DRIVEWAY OF THE NEIGHBOR HOUSE?

>> THIS IS â€'â€' YEAH.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR.

THERE'S A CARPORT THERE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE FENCE.

THERE'S REALLY â€'â€' IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARDS EXCEPT FOR THAT POSSIBLE NEIGHBOR IMPACT.

THIS IS THE LEFT SIDE.

THIS IS ACROSS THE STREET.

THERE'S ACTUALLY â€'â€' IF YOU SEE, THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET HAS A FENCE THAT'S MOVED FORWARD THAN THE OTHER FENCE ON THE NEIGHBOR THERE.

THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE.

THIS IS THE LOCATION OF WHERE THE FENCE WOULD GO.

IT WOULD BE MAINLY IN VIEW FROM THE CARPORT AREA.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HAVE THE OWNER GO THROUGH HER SLIDES?

>> THINK IT'S APPROVABLE.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE RECOMMENDED MOTION?

>> NO, SIR.

NOT AT ALL.

>> NO, SIR.

>> OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO MENTION WE DID RECEIVE THE NEIGHBOR HAD CONCERNS BECAUSE HIS AC UNIT IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND HIS PROPOSED GENERATOR IS CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE ABOUT THE FENCE.

HE HAD A COMPLAINT ABOUT THAT.

HE GAVE A COUPLE OF OPTIONS.

ONE HE WAS ASKING THE NEIGHBOR TO ACTUALLY MOVE IT IN TOWARD THEIR PROPERTY OR TO MOVE IT BACK AWAY FROM THE FRONT.

BUT I WANTED TO MENTION THAT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT NEIGHBOR RESPONSES.

BUT THE HOMEOWNER IS ON THE LINE.

I DON'T SEE ANOTHER HAND RAISED.

>> WELL, SINCE THE HOMEOWNER HAS BEEN ON THE LINE WAITING LET'S GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

THEN WE'LL VOTE ON IT.

[03:00:01]

>> I BELIEVE IT'S THE HOMEOWNER.

CALLER ENDING IN 1426.

CAN YOU UNMUTE YOUR PHONE? STARâ€'6.

>> CALLER: HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

>> YES.

WE CAN HEAR YOU.

>> CALLER: WE ARE THE HOMEOWNERS FROM 23 VILLA CANYON.

>> OKAY.

GO AHEAD.

YOU CAN ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE.

I'VE GOT YOUR â€'â€' WE DID PUT SOME PHOTOGRAPHS IN THERE ALTHOUGH THEY WERE ALSO IN THE APPLICATION.

I APPRECIATE YOUR HEARING THIS.

THIS IS JUST â€'â€' YOU HAVE KIND OF ALREADY SEEN THIS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE LOCATION FOR OUR NEIGHBORS.

SO THIS IS JUST A FOLLOW UP.

NO CHANGE FROM WHAT YOU SAW BEFORE.

GO AHEAD AND GO TO THE FIRST SLIDE IS REALLY JUST A PICTURE OF THE FENCES.

IT'S BASICALLY A PRIVACY FENCE.

IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND SLIDE, AGAIN, YOU SAW IT IN THE APPLICATION.

IT'S KIND OF OVER THERE ON THE RIGHT.

YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE SETâ€'BACK THAT WE HAVE ON THE SIDE OF THE HOUSE.

THAT'S WHAT WILL HAVE TO BE BACK 36 INCHES FROM THAT.

I WANT TO THANK JORGE FROM THE TOWNSHIP WHO HELPED US WALK THROUGH THE GUIDELINES.

AGAIN, WE HAVE ABOUT NINE FOOT WHICH IS THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT.

IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE OTHER THINGS WE WERE CONSIDERING.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HIDE THIS WATER THING AND ALSO WE'LL HIDE THAT FROM VIEW FROM THE STREET.

WE UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO REDO THE BED BECAUSE WE'LL PROBABLY COME STRAIGHT INTO A GATE.

WE HAVE MADE PLANS ALREADY TO JOIN TWO BEDS IN THE FRONT OF THE YARD TO MAKE UP FOR THAT.

THE ISSUE IS WITH THE AIR CONDITIONING.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH â€'â€' HIS GENERATOR THING.

WE UNDERSTAND HE'LL HAVE A GENERATOR THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE.

I LOOKED UP ON THE TRAIN WEBSITE IN TERMS OF IT SHOULD HAVE AMPLE ROOM IN FRONT OF THERE.

YOU DON'T NEED THAT MUCH ROOM.

I WAS SURPRISED.

HE'LL STILL HAVE A FOOT OR SO TO BE IN FRONT OF THIS.

SO THAT SHOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM.

THE LAST SLIDE â€'â€' WELL, ON SLIDE THREE WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF SOME DRAINAGE ISSUES.

THE LAST SLIDE IS KIND OF WHAT WE HOPE TO DO WITH IT.

THESE ARE FRIENDS OF OURS WHO HAVE DONE THIS.

IN FACT, WE ARE USING THE SAME FENCE CONTRACTOR.

WE INTEND TO STORE TOOLS AND IF WE HAVE A FUTURE POOL WE'LL PUT THAT UP HERE.

THIS IS THE ONLY SIDE WE CAN DO THIS ON.

THE OTHER SIDE OF THE HOUSE IS SMALLER DISTANCE.

IT'S KIND OF GOT GRADE ISSUES.

PROBABLY MOST IMPORTANTLY, THERE IS A BIG TREE RIGHT BEHIND THE FENCE.

SO WE COULDN'T PUT A GATE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

WE HAVE TO DO THIS ON THE WEST SIDE.

AGAIN, WE PUSHED THIS THROUGH BECAUSE OF THE GENERATOR ISSUE.

BUT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO OTHER THINGS.

THIS IS JUST ONE THING WE PLAN TO BE FIXING A LOT OF THE BEDS.

WE ARE REALLY DUE TO FIX OUR LANDSCAPING AND, IN FACT, WE MET WITH A DESIGNER TO DO OTHER STUFF IN THE BACKYARD TODAY.

>> OKAY.

>> CALLER: THIS IS PART OF A MAJOR PLAN.

ANYWAY, DO I NEED TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? I KIND OF WOULD LIKE YOU TO REJECT THE IDEA OF PUSHING BACK THE FENCE.

I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE EXTENUATING CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE A FENCE MAY NOT BE ON THE PROPERTY LINE.

TO ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBORS IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD BE ENOUGH.

IF HE NEEDS SPACE, WE UNDERSTAND HE'LL PROBABLY PUT A GENERATOR THERE.

THAT'S FINE.

IT'S UP TO HIM.

THAT'S HIS ISSUE IN TERMS OF HIS PERMIT.

NOT THIS ONE.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY QUESTIONS FOR US?

>> JUST CLARIFICATION TO THE HOMEOWNER.

IS THERE A GENERATOR THERE NOW OR THE INTENT IS THAT THE HOMEOWNER WILL PUT ONE THERE IN THE FUTURE?

>> CALLER: NO, THERE IS NO GENERATOR THERE NOW.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ANYBODY HAVE PROBLEMS WITH RECOMMENDED MOTION?

>> NO.

CLEAR, SIMPLE.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE FENCE AS SUBMITTED.

THE RECOMMENDED MOTION.

>> SECOND? DO I HAVE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

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MOTION CARRIES.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

[VIII.36. Variance request for proposed Padel Court that does not respect the 20 foot rear setback and for proposed retaining wall that does not respect the five foot side easement. Sergio Ortiz 6 Pebble Pocket Court Lot 13, Block 03, Section 21 Village of Creekside Park West]

>> THANK YOU.

NEXT ITEM IS 6 PEBBLE COURT IN CREEK SIDE PARK WEST.

IT'S A PADEL COURT THAT DOESN'T RESPECT THE 20 FOOT REAR SET BACK AND THE RETAINING WALL DOESN'T RESPECT THE REAR SETBACK, I BELIEVE.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

YOU CAN SEE IT HERE.

BACKS UP AGAINST A RESERVE ON.

THIS IS YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

YOU CAN SEE FROM THE INSET PHOTO THIS IS THE PROPOSED COURT HERE IN THIS LOCATION HERE.

HERE'S THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY.

PADEL COURT IS ABOUT 65 FEET, 7 INCHES LONG AND 32 FEET TEN INCHES WIDE.

2,153 SQUARE FEET, A THIRD OF THE SIZE OF A TENNIS COURT.

THERE ARE LIGHTS INSTALLED ON POLES THAT ARE 16 FEET TWO INCHES FROM NATURAL GRADE.

THE POLES ARE ABOUT 19 FEET EIGHT INCHES.

THE RETAINING WALL WILL BE ON THE FRONT LEFT AND RIGHT SIDE OF THE COURT.

IT'S 176 FEET LONG BY EIGHT INCHES WIDE.

EIGHT INCHES TO 30 FEET HIGH.

ENCROACHES TWO FEET INTO THE SIDE EASEMENT, NOT A REAR EASEMENT.

I'M SORRY.

THE MATERIAL IS A HARD SURFACE COVERED BY ARTIFICIAL TURF.

THE HARD SURFACE AREA IS WITHIN THE STANDARDS.

60% AND IT'S ONLY PROPOSED TO BE 38.9.

IT IS A LARGE LOT.

THE RETAINING WALL IS EIGHT BY EIGHT RAILROAD TIES.

THERE IS METAL FENCING ON THE SIDES OF THE COURT WITH STEEL GRADE WITH BLACK PAINT FINISH AND TEMPERED GLASS WILL ENCLOSE THE COURTS.

THE NEIGHBORS ARE OKAY AND PROVIDED SIGNATURES AND A LETTER OF APPROVAL FROM THE RIGHT NEIGHBOR WHO IS MOST AFFECTED.

SO THIS IS YOUR PUZZLE.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS THE NEIGHBOR THAT SUBMITTED THE LETTER, SAID THEY WERE OKAY WITH THIS PADEL COURT IN THIS LOCATION.

THIS IS THE SIDE ELEVATION.

YOU CAN SEE THE GLASS AND METAL FENCING AND THE LIGHT POLES.

THIS IS THAT RETAINING WALL THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

IT IS A LITTLE BIT BELOW GRADE.

ANOTHER VIEW.

THE LOCATION, THAT'S THE TEN FOOT THAT'S IN THE REAR 20.

ANOTHER VIEW FOR THE PROPOSED TO THE SIDE.

THIS IS A CLOSEâ€'UP VIEW OF THE SURVEY SHOWING YOU THE PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THIS IS ALL ARTIFICIAL TURF.

THIS IS THE RETAINING WALL THAT GOES AROUND IT HERE.

OF COURSE WE ALREADY NOTICE WHERE THE LAMPS ARE â€'â€' THE FOUR LAMPS.

THIS IS THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE LIGHTS.

NOT REALLY â€'â€' WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AT THIS LIGHT YOU CAN SEE IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY ARE SHIELDED BECAUSE IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THEY EXACTLY POINT DOWN OR HAVE ANY KIND OF SHIELDING ON IT.

THESE ARE VIEWS THE OWNER SUBMITTED OF A PADEL COURT OF ANOTHER AREA IN THE WOODLANDS.

I BELIEVE IT'S IN CARLTON WOODS.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER DRAWING OF IT.

IT'S AN EXAMPLE.

GIVING YOU THE DIMENSIONS.

THE 65 FEET SEVEN INCHES AND 32 FEET TEN INCHES.

THIS IS THE LETTER FROM THE NEIGHBOR AT 2 PEBBLE COURT THAT SAYS THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH THE COURT.

THEY ARE REALTORS AND THEY THINK IT WILL INCREASE THE VALUE OF THEIR HOME.

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THESE ARE THE OTHER NEIGHBORS ALL IN THE AREA THAT ARE IN AGREEMENT AND HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE PADEL COURT.

THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME.

THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDES.

THE PADEL COURT ON THE RIGHT SIDE WILL BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET HERE.

ANOTHER VIEW TO THE REAR FENCE WHERE THE PADEL COURT WILL BE ALONG HERE.

THE REAR FENCE HERE SO THE PADEL COURT WILL BE IN THIS AREA HERE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THE INSET WHAT THE PROPOSED COURT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THIS LOCATION.

>> DID THEY SUBMIT A DRAINAGE PLAN WITH IT?

>> LET ME GO BACK.

WE MAY HAVE TO ASK THE HOMEOWNER.

I DON'T RECALL SEEING IT ON THE SURVEY.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO HAVE THE HOMEOWNER â€'â€' > YES.

PUT THE HOMEOWNER ON, PLEASE.

>> HELLO, MR. ORTIZ?

>> CALLER: HELLO.

>> GO AHEAD AND SPEAK WITH COMMITTEE.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

HI.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE NOT MENTIONED ON THE PRESENTATION IS THAT PADEL â€'â€' I DON'T KNOW IF MOST OF YOU ARE FAMILIAR.

PADEL IS CURRENTLY THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN THE WORLD.

MY SON IS CURRENTLY THE NUMBER ONE PLAYER IN THE UNITED STATES.

HE IS THE HIGHEST RANKED PLAYER AMONG KIDS UNDER 16.

HE'S 15.

HE'S BEEN REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES FOR SIX YEARS NOW ALL OVER THE WORLD.

SO WE NEED A PLACE FOR HIM TO PLAY AND PRACTICE.

AS MENTIONED, THE COURT IS SMALL.

I KNOW ON THE DRAWINGS AND ON THE PLANS IT LOOKS LARGE.

HOWEVER, IT IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SURROUNDINGS.

THE SURFACE IS TURF.

IT'S GREEN.

ALL AROUND IT'S TEMPERED GLASS WALLS SO YOU WOULD BARELY BE ABLE TO SEE HIM.

WE DID SUBMIT A DRAINAGE PLAN ON THE SITE AND AS YOU CAN SEE ON SOME OF THE PICTURES, THE SLOPE FALLS BEHIND THE NATURAL TERRAIN OR THE LAWN DROPS TO THE BACK.

THEREFORE, IT'S VERY HIGH ON THE FRONT.

THEREFORE, I'M SUGGESTING TO DIG OR EXCAVATE AT LEAST THREE FEET IN ORDER TO LOWER THE IMPACT OF THE VISIBILITY FROM THE OUTSIDE.

IT WOULD NOT AFFECT ANY DRAINAGE.

ON THE BACK THERE IS A SMALL RESERVE.

WE BACK OUT TO THE STREET.

NONE OF THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAINED.

I TALKED TO ALL OF THE SUBDIVISION.

YOU ONLY HAVE SIGNATURES FOR THOSE WHO YOU ASKED ME TO ASK TO DELIVER THE FORM AND THE LETTER.

BUT WE HAVE SIGNATURES AND WE TALKED TO ALMOST ALL OF THE SUBDIVISION.

ANOTHER THING IS THAT THERE IS ANOTHER COURT IN THE WOODLANDS.

YOU GUYS JUST MENTIONED ONE.

NUMBER 3 FIELD BROOK WAY, BUT THERE IS ANOTHER AT 19 WEST PALMER POINT AND NOBODY HAS COMPLAINED FROM THE NEIGHBORS OF THAT PROPERTY ABOUT THE NOISE OR THE LIGHT OR ANYTHING.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE ARE FOUR LAMPS AND, YES, THEY WILL BE FACING DOWN.

SO THERE IS NOT MUCH BRIGHTNESS SO THE EXTERIOR.

THOSE OTHER TWO COURTS, I BELIEVE WERE CONDITIONED TO NOT ALLOW THE PLAYERS OR THE HOMEOWNER TO PLAY AFTER 10:00 WHICH WE BELIEVE IS REASONABLE AND WE WOULD AGREE TO THAT AS WELL.

I AM WILLING TO PLANT AND MAINTAIN LARGE HEAVY VEGETATION TO OBSTRUCT IT FROM THE STREET WHICH IS THE ONLY PLACE WHERE YOU WOULD SEE IT.

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BUT IF YOU WANT ME TO, I CAN PUT MORE LARGE TREES AROUND IT SO I AM WILLING TO DO ANYTHING THAT YOU MENTIONED IN ORDER TO PUT THIS COURT.

LAST, I WAS LISTENING TO ALL OF THIS MEETING.

COMPARED TO THE FENCE BUSINESS PROPERTY THAT YOU GUYS DISCUSSED WHERE THE HOME '01ERS WERE AFFECTING NEGATIVELY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I THINK WE ARE BRINGING NEIGHBORS AND KIDS TOGETHER GETTING THEM OUT OF THEIR TVS AND TABLETS.

IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE THEM PLAY A NEW SPORT.

IF YOU HAVE TIME I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT YOUTUBE AND SEE HOW FUN PADEL IS, HOW EASY TO LEARN IT IS.

IT'S ALMOST ABOUT TO BE AN OLYMPIC SPORT.

SO IF THAT WERE TO HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEARS, YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE A WOODLANDS RESIDENT REPRESENTING THE UNITED STATES IN THE OLYMPICS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

>> THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

ONE QUESTION I HAVE.

WILL YOU SUPPLY A SEALED DRAINAGE PLAN?

>> CALLER: I DID NOT SUPPLY IT, BUT OF COURSE I WILL DO IT.

AS I MENTIONED, THE PROPERTY SITS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE FEET HIGHER THAN THE STREET BEHIND.

SO IT'S PRETTY DEEP, THE SLOPE.

BUT I WILL SUBMIT THAT PLAN.

>> THANK YOU.

DO THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE HOMEOWNER?

>> NO, SIR.

>> NO, SIR.

PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE PRESENTATION.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR.

>> ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS? ANYBODY HAVE A MOTION?

>> I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE AS PRESENTED.

ALSO WITH THE CONDITION THAT A SEALED DRAINAGE PLAN IS PRESENTED TO STAFF FOR STAFF TO REVIEW UNLESS THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO REVIEW THE PLAN ONCE THE SEALED DRAWINGS ARE PRESENTED.

I LEAVE THAT UP TO YOU, WALT.

>> I THINK STAFF CAN DO IT.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ADD ON THAT THEY WORK WITH STAFF ON SCREENAGE FROM THE STREET.

>> ALSO, TOO, I THINK WE OUGHT TO HAVE IN THE CONDITIONS THE HOURS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO PLAY AFTER 10:00 P.M.

AS THE HOMEOWNER INDICATED HE FELT THAT WAS REASONABLE AND HE ALSO, TO YOUR POINT ABOUT HE WOULD SCREEN FROM THE STREET.

>> YEP.

>> ANYBODY THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE?

>> WITH THE LIGHTS?

>> IF THERE'S ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT PLAYING LATE EVEN UP TO 10:00 THAT THE COMMITTEE RESERVES THE RIGHT TO FURTHER LIMIT THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

>> OKAY.

>> I THINK THAT'S A PRUDENT MODIFICATION TO THE MOTION.

THANK YOU, JOHN.

>> ONE OTHER THING, ARTHUR.

I THINK THE LIGHTING NEEDS TO BE EVALUATED AFTER THE LIGHTS GO IN TO SEE IF ANY SHIELDING NEEDS TO BE ADDED ON.

>> WE'LL ADD IT AS A CONDITION.

THAT'S ANOTHER GOOD MODIFICATION.

SO THE LIGHTS WOULD BE REVIEWED AFTER INSTALLATION AND SHOULD IT BE REQUIRED FOR SHIELDING WE LEAVE STAFF TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO INSTALL THE PROPER SHIELDING.

>> OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU.

[VIII.37. Variance request for existing storage shed that exceeds maximum height allowed and does not respect the side and rear easements. Rauan Yepekov 2 North Rocky Point Circle Lot 57, Block 01, Section 05 Village of Creekside Park]

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

GOOD LUCK.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

>> NEXT ITEM IS 2 NORTH ROCKY POINT CIRCLE, VILLAGE OF CREEKSIDE PARK.

A VARIANCE REQUEST FOR A STORAGE SHED THAT EXCEEDS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ALLOWED AND DOES NOT RESPECT THE SIDE AND REAR EASEMENTS.

THIS IS YOUR SECTION MAP.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOCATION ON THE PROPERTY.

IT IS A CORNER LOT.

AERIAL PHOTO.

THE STRUCTURE IS LOCATED IN THIS CORNER RIGHT HERE.

IT BACKS UP TO THE STREET.

THERE'S ALONG THERE.

THIS LOCATION HERE.

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THE SHED IS 10 BY 8, 80 SQUARE FEET.

TEN FEET FROM THE GRADE TO THE PEAK.

IT SITS ON THE GROUND.

IT'S BROWN WOOD WITH ROOF SHINGLES.

WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT FROM A NEIGHBOR.

OOPS, I'M SORRY.

HERE'S THE PUZZLE.

IT'S LOCATED RIGHT HERE.

THIS IS THE SHED RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE.

AND THIS IS THE HOMEOWNER SAYING THE REASONS WHY HE BUILT THE SHED AND WANTED TO KEEP HIS CHEMICALS AND GARDEN TOOLS IN A SEPARATE STORAGE.

HIS WIFE HAS SOME ALLERGIES TO DIFFERENT ELEMENTS AND DID NOT WANT TO KEEP THOSE IN THE GARAGE BECAUSE OF HER ISSUES WITH THAT.

THEY WANTED TO ALSO KEEP THE VEHICLES IN THE GARAGE, TOO.

ARE ABLE TO.

INSTEAD OF KEEPING GARDEN EQUIPMENT IN THERE AND CHEMICALS.

HERE IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME.

THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE.

ON THE LEFT SIDE YOU CAN SEE THE STRUCTURE RIGHT HERE.

ANOTHER VIEW.

IF YOU GO A LITTLE BIT FARTHER, THIS TREE BLOCKS THE VIEW OF THE STRUCTURE.

FARTHER UP THE STREET.

YOU CAN SEE TO THE REAR YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE IT FROM THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE TREES IN THE RESERVE THERE.

AND THIS IS ACTUALLY FROM THE REAR OUTSIDE THE FENCE AREA.

SO HERE IS THE PATHWAY AND FROM THE SHEET YOU CAN BARELY SEE IT THERE.

THIS IS THE VIEW TO THE RIGHT.

AND TO THE LEFT.

ANOTHER VIEW.

THERE IS SOME GREENERY HERE, BUT IT IS VISIBLE TO THE NEIGHBOR HERE.

OOPS.

WE RECEIVED A NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT, BUT WE DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING AFTER THE LETTERS WENT OUT.

>> OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

>> PRETTY MASSIVE.

WE MAY NEED SOME SCREENING ON THE LEFT IMPACT SIDE.

>> EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING.

>> EXCUSE ME? I'M SORRY.

I DIDN'T HEAR YOU.

>> WHEN DID THEY BUILD IT? HOW OLD IS IT?

>> I BELIEVE IT'S JUST RECENT.

IT WAS JUST RECENTLY BUILT.

OH, I BELIEVE IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY AN RDRC MEMBER DROVE BY AND SAW IT BEING BUILT RECENTLY AND THEN STAFF CONTACTED THE OWNER AND THEY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.

>> STAFF HAS RECOMMENDED TO DO A MOTION TO DISAPPROVE AND CONSENT TO DELAY ENFORCEMENT BASED UPON EXECUTION OF A MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT.

>> THAT'S TRUE.

BUT WE COULD ADD THE PLANTING TO SCREEN RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF IT TO THE STREET.

>> I THINK TO TRY TO MUTE IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN DO THE LEFT SIDE NEIGHBOR.

YOU POINT OUT THERE IS IMPACT ON THE LEFT SIDE.

>> MMâ€'HMM.

WELL, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PLANT â€'â€' LET ME GO BACK TO THIS PHOTO.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO PLANT SOMETHING HERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE IS NOT ENOUGH SPACE TO DO ANYTHING BEHIND IT.

THEY COULD PLANT SOMETHING AND THAT WOULD SCREEN IT TO THE STREET AND ALSO TO THE REAR OF THIS HOME HERE.

>> YEAH, I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

ALSO THE HEIGHT OF IT, TOO.

MAKE SURE STAFF AGREED THAT THE HEIGHT DID SHIELD THE SHED.

>> MOST DEFINITELY.

WE WANT THE SCREENING TO BE INSTANT AS FAR AS MAXIMUM HEIGHT AVAILABLE, NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE FIVE YEARS TO GROW.

>> OKAY.

WE CAN GET MAXIMUM HEIGHT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO BE INSTANT, YOU KNOW, SCREENING BECAUSE YOU DO HAVE TO ALLOW THE PLANTS TO GROW.

YOU DON'T WANT TO PLANT THEM TOO CLOSE TOGETHER IN THE BEGINNING BECAUSE THERE MAY NOT BE SUFFICIENT SPACE FOR GROWTH.

SO WE CAN DO THAT.

>> WITH STAFF'S EXPERTISE, I KNOW YOU'LL WORK THAT OUT WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO GET

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THE PROPER LEVEL OF SCREENING BOTH HEIGHT AND DENSITY.

>> OKAY.

>> GET THE MEMORANDUM OF AGREEMENT EXECUTED BETWEEN THE HOMEOWNER AND THE TOWNSHIP.

>> OKAY.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE CHANGE OF THE COLOR TO THE BEIGE OR WHATEVER THAT IS THERE â€'â€' THE YELLOWISHâ€'LOOKING TRIM.

ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT?

>> YOU COULD PAINT IT UP TO GET A MORE MUTED COLOR.

IT WOULD HELP WITH THE SCREENING, WALT.

>> PROBABLY THE COLOR THAT THE SHED IS PAINTED IF YOU PAINT THE WHOLE THING THAT COLOR IT PROBABLY WOULD MUTE IT EVEN MORE.

>> WE CAN ADD THAT TO THE MOTION.

>> OKAY.

>> AND THE GUTTER.

GOOD POINT, JOHN.

THOSE ARE ALL GOOD, FRIENDLY MODIFICATIONS THAT MAKE IT EVEN STRONGER IN THE MOTION.

>> OKAY.

>> ARE THEY AFFECTING ANYTHING WITH THE WATER.

IS IT JUST COMING DOWN THE GUTTER ON THE SIDE AND INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S YARD?

>> IT'S JUST COMING DOWN INTO THEIR YARD.

I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S GOING INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S.

>> OKAY.

>> NES, YOU COULD ADD A CONDITION IF THERE ARE COMPLAINTS DUE TO DRAINAGE WE'D HAVE STAFF WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER THAT SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.

>> OKAY.

I'M GOING TO ADD THE DRAINAGE CLAUSE.

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

>> IS THERE A SECOND?

>> I'LL SECOND IT.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

MOTION CARRIES.

>> OKAY.

YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T SEE ANYBODY HAVE THEIR HAND RAISED.

DID ANYBODY â€'â€' I SEE THERE ARE STILL TWO CALLERS.

IF YOU ARE CALLING IN ABOUT 2 ROCKY POINT RAISE YOUR HAND, STARâ€'9.

THEY HAVE ALREADY MADE THEIR MOTION AND I DON'T SEE ANYBODY RAISING THEIR HAND.

WE'LL GO TO NUMBER 38.

[VIII.38. Request for variance for proposed compost bins that will be located in the side yard and the number exceeds the maximum bins allowed on the property. John Kramer III 22 Botanical Vista Drive Lot 23, Block 01, Section 32 Village of Creekside Park West]

THIS IS THE LAST RESIDENTIAL ITEM ON YOUR AGENDA.

IT IS TWO COMPOST BINS OR SOME COMPOST BINS IN THE SIDE YARD IN CREEKSIDE PARK WEST.

ACTUALLY COMPOST BINS ARE REQUIRED TO BE IN THE REAR YARD.

SO THAT'S WHY IT IS ON YOUR AGENDA TODAY.

THERE'S YOUR SECTION MAP AND YOUR AERIAL PHOTO.

THIS IS THE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY AND THIS IS THE LOCATION WHERE HE WANTED TO PUT IT HERE.

I TALKED TO HIM AND HE SAID HE WOULD MOVE IT FURTHER BACK TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.

SO THERE WOULD BE MORE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE COMPOST BINS AND THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO HE'S WILLING TO MOVE IT FURTHER BACK.

THIS IS THE PROPERTY.

PUZZLE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A DISTANCE.

THIS IS 17 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE HERE.

AND THIS IS, I THINK, ABOUT TEN FEET OR SO.

THIS IS THE COMPOST BINS HE'S BUILDING.

OR HAS PURCHASED TO PUT IN THIS LOCATION.

ANOTHER VIEW OF THEM.

TECHNICAL SPECS AND THE HOMEOWNER SAID HE'D LIKE TO PUT THEM HERE.

THEY WOULD BE LESS VISIBLE TO OTHER PROPERTIES IN THIS LOCATION.

HE WOULD BE MAINTAINING THEM AND HE FELT THIS WAS THE BEST LOCATION FOR THE COMPOST BINS.

HE DOES HAVE THREE.

THE STANDARDS DO SAY HE CAN ONLY HAVE TWO.

BUT HE WOULD LIKE TO PUT THREE OF THEM BACK THERE.

THIS IS THE FRONT VIEW OF THE HOME, THE RIGHT AND LEFT SIDE.

SO IT WOULD BE DOWN THIS LEFT SIDE HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE HOMES.

AS YOU GO TOWARD THE BACK, THE DISTANCE INCREASES BETWEEN THE HOMES.

ANOTHER VIEW.

SO THIS IS THE COMPOST BIN LOCATION.

HE INITIALLY PROPOSED AND SAID HE WOULD BE WILLING TO MOVE IT FURTHER TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE HERE.

BACK CORNER.

THIS IS THE FRONT IMPACT FROM THE COMPOST BINS AND THE REAR IMPACT HERE.

THAT'S YOUR LEFT IMPACT.

SO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY HERE.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S MOST LIKELY A BATHROOM OR SO.

THIS IS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT THE STANDARDS SAY ABOUT THE COMPOST BINS AND

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THEIR MEASUREMENTS AND THE FACT THAT THERE SHOULD BE ONLY TWO AND THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE REAR YARD, NOT THE SIDE YARD.

THE REAR YARD IS BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT'S NOT A FRONT OR SIDE YARD.

SO IF IT'S NOT IN THE FRONT YARD OR THE SIDE YARD THEN THAT'S IN THE BACK IS THE REAR YARD.

I'M NOT SURE.

IS ANYBODY ON LINE TO DISCUSS THIS ITEM AT 22 BOTANICAL VISTA DRIVE? I STILL HAVE TWO PEOPLE.

IT LOOKS LIKE I DON'T SEE THEIR PHONES, SO THEY MIGHT HAVE HUNG UP.

KIM, DO YOU SEE THAT?

>> I SEE TWO CALLERS STILL IN THE QUEUE.

IT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE CALLING AND LISTENING.

SO USUALLY IF THEY HANG UP IT DROPS THE CALL.

SO WE MIGHT WANT TO ENGAGE THE CALLERS AND ASK WHAT THEY ARE PRESENT FOR.

>> OKAY.

SO I DON'T HAVE THEM RAISING THEIR HANDS.

IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ISSUE, PLEASE HIT STARâ€'9.

NOPE.

>> OKAY.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THIS?

>> IT WOULD BE GOOD IF WE COULD TRY TO STAY WITHIN THE STANDARDS ON THE NUMBER OF COMPOST BINS AND LIMIT IT TO OR LET THE STANDARDS PREVAIL AT TWO AND NOT GO TO THE THIRD.

AND THE RECOMMENDED MOTION COVERS IF THERE ARE ANY COMPLAINTS THEN STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO RESOLVE THE COMPLAINTS OR â€'â€' AND STAFF, I THINK, HAS RECOMMENDED TO MAKE THE MOVE TOWARD THE BACK FROM THE PROPOSED LOCATION.

>> RIGHT.

>> OKAY.

SO YOUR MOTION IS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDED MOTION, DROP IT DOWN FROM THREE TO TWO COMPOST BINS AND THEN MOVE THEM BACK AS FAR AS POSSIBLE AND STAFF WILL WORK WITH THEM ON THAT.

>> YES, SIR.

IF THERE'S ANY FUTURE â€'â€' FUTURE COMPLAINTS, STAFF WOULD WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNER TO RESOLVE THOSE COMPLAINTS.

>> OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE A SECOND ON THAT?

>> SECOND.

>> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

IN ON SOMETHING OR THEY WERE JUST LISTENING?

>> AS SOON AS WE GET THROUGH WITH THIS YOU CAN ASK THEM.

>> OKAY.

>> DID YOU GET THAT WE VOTED ON IT?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

SO WE ARE ONTO THE NEXT ONE.

SO GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM IF THEY ARE HERE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM.

>> OKAY.

HELLO, CALLER ENDING IN 1385.

PLEASE UNMUTE, HIT STARâ€'6, IF YOU ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS AN ITEM WITH THE COMMITTEE.

ALL RIGHT.

CALLER ENDING IN 4347, IF YOU ARE WANTING TO DISCUSS ANYTHING WITH THE COMMITTEE PLEASE HIT STAR â€'â€' OH, WAIT A MINUTE.

I'VE GOT ONE.

HELLO? HELLO?

>> CALLER: HELLO?

>> YES.

WERE YOU CALLING IN REGARD TO THIS ITEM?

>> CALLER: NO, I WASN'T.

I WASN'T ABLE TO RAISE MY HAND AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THIS WHEN OUR ADDRESS WAS BROUGHT UP.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANYTHING ELSE WE NEEDED TO DO THAT WASN'T BROUGHT UP.

>> WHAT'S YOUR ADDRESS, MA'AM?

>> CALLER: 31 GENESEE RIDGE.

>> LET ME SEE.

OKAY.

31 GENESEE RIDGE WAS ON SUMMARY.

THAT WAS CONDITIONALLY APPROVED.

YOU NEED TO MOVE THE SIDE FENCE FORWARD IN FRONT OF THE POOL EQUIPMENT AND NO FENCING MAY BE CONSTRUCTED TO SCREEN THE POOL EQUIPMENT WITHOUT A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

SO YOU'D HAVE TO MOVE THE FENCE FORWARD SO YOU CAN ENCLOSE YOUR POOL EQUIPMENT.

>> CALLER: ALL RIGHT.

THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

>> OKAY.

THAT MOTION WAS JUST FOR THE POOL EQUIPMENT.

THERE WOULD BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR THE POOL.

YOU'D HAVE TO SUBMIT YOUR DRAINAGE PLAN THAT'S REQUIRED.

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IT CAN'T ENCROACH INTO ANY EASEMENT.

YOU HAVE TO VERIFY COVENANT EASEMENTS AND ALSO CENTER POINT EASEMENTS AND ALL CONDITIONS MUST BE MET WITHIN 150 DAYS.

JUST A REMINDER THAT IMPROVEMENTS BY OTHERS WILL REQUIRE SEPARATE APPLICATIONS.

YOU NEED TO MEET CODE AND PASS INSPECTIONS.

>> OKAY.

OUR ORIGINAL CONVERSATION WAS THAT WE EXCEEDED THE MAXIMUM SURFACE AREA OF THE POOL.

SO ARE WE GOOD WITH THE SIZE OF THE POOL?

>> YES.

>> CALLER: OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> CALLER: THANK YOU.

>> OKAY.

WE HAVE ONE OTHER CALLER, BUT THEY HAVE NOT UNMUTED.

CALLER 4347, PLEASE UNMUTE, STARâ€'6.

HELLO.

>> CALLER: HELLO.

>> YES.

WHAT ITEM WERE YOU CALLING IN REFERENCE TO.

>> CALLER: WE TALKED EARLIER.

THIS IS FRANK TANNER, 31 FIRETHORN.

YOU SAID THERE MAY BE SCREENING CONDITIONAL TO THE VARIANCE REQUESTED.

BUT SOMEONE WOULD COME AND LOOK AT OUR SITUATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? ? SOMEBODY WILL ACTUALLY COME AND LOOK TO SEE IF WE NEED TO PUT SCREENING UP OR WILL THE SCREENING BE AUTOMATICALLY REQUIRED?

>> OKAY.

LET ME LOOK AT THAT FOR YOU.

>> CALLER: 39 FIRETHORN.

>> IT SAYS UPON COMPLETION STAFF WILL COME OUT AND REVIEW IT AND DETERMINE IF VEGETATION NEEDS TO BE PLANTED TO SCREEN IT FROM IMPACT FOR ADJACENT PROPERTIES.

>> CALLER: THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> CALLER: BYE.

>> BYE.

OKAY.

THAT'S ALL THE RESIDENTIAL ITEMS. I BELIEVE WE DIDN'T SKIP ANY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

SO WE ARE MOVING TO ITEM NUMBER IX?

[IX. Consideration and discussion pertaining to proposed recommendations for signage standards during the COVID-19 pandemic.]

>> I BELIEVE SO.

I BELIEVE THAT'S KIM.

>> WE ARE.

YOU SHOULD SEE ON YOUR SCREEN NOW THE CONSIDERATION AND DISCUSSION PERTAINING TO THE PROPOSED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SIGNAGE STANDARDS DURING THE COVIDâ€'19 PANDEMIC.

EVERYONE SEES THAT? GREAT.

SO THIS WAS AN ITEM BROUGHT FORWARD AT YOUR LAST MEETING.

THE REQUEST WAS TO SEND THE SIGNAGE OUT TO ALL OF THE COMMITTEE SO THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW, COMPILE THE RESPONSES, AND PROVIDE IT TO THIS COMMITTEE AT THIS TIME.

THIS WAS JUST AS A REFRESHER THE GENERAL REQUIREMENTS.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE SEEN THAT ARE SPOKEN TO IN THE STANDARD AS IT RELATES TO THE SIZE, LOCATIONS, BANNERS.

YOU WILL SEE THESE EXAMPLES HERE.

I DID COMPILE THE RESPONSES FROM THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND HAVE INCORPORATED THOSE INTO THIS PRESENTATION.

SO THIS IS ALL OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY SENT TO YOU.

ANYTHING IDENTIFIED IN RED IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBER ASKED TO ADD TO.

ANYTHING STRUCK THROUGH IS WHAT THE COMMITTEE FELT SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED IN THESE STANDARDS AND THE BLUE FONT IS JUST A REPRESENTATION OF A QUESTION.

SO THE FIRST RED PORTION IS JUST REALLY A PLACEHOLDER AT THE BEGINNING TO IDENTIFY FOR BUSINESSES THAT WE REALLY DO SUPPORT BUSINESSES, THAT THESE ARE DIFFICULT TIMES, THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PROVIDE CONSISTENCY ON TEMPORARY BANNERS AND CONTINUE A PROFESSIONAL IMAGE.

THIS WAS THE REPRESENTATION BY THE COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

MOVING DOWN, WE HAVE A REQUEST TO STRIKE SECTION FIVE OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNS REQUIRING THE NEUTRAL BACKGROUND COLOR AND NO MORE THAN TWO CHARACTER COLORS.

WE ALSO HAD A NOTATION THAT SOMEWHERE IN THIS AREA MIGHT BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PLACE A NOTATION THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY HANDWRITTEN SIGNS.

THERE WAS A NOTATION ON THE TEMPORARY SIGN DISPLAY TO STRIKE THROUGH SECTION B OF THE BUSINESS IN QUESTION AS PERMITTED TO RESUME SERVICES AT PREPANDEMIC, INTERIOR CAPACITY, WHICHEVER OCCURS FIRST AND TAKE IT OFF THE MAY BE DISPLAYED UNTIL.

ALSO REMOVING SUBSECTION 7 ABOUT THE VIOLATION AT THE SOLE EXPENSE OF THE TOWNSHIP.

THERE WERE QUESTIONS REGARDING ENFORCEMENT.

MOVING INTO THE SECOND â€'â€' ABOUT THE TOWN CENTER TEMPORARY SIGNS

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CANNOT BE LOCATED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY OR PARKING LOT.

PLACEMENT OF TEMPORARY SIGNS WILL BE EVALUATED ON A CASEâ€'BYâ€'CASE BASIS APPLICABLE TO THE COMMITTEE.

AND THEN IN THE TEMPORARY SIGNS AT PARKING INTENDED FOR CURB SIDE PICK UP OF THE FOUR COMPONENTS I DID HAVE REQUESTS TO STRIKE THROUGH THE LANGUAGE OF THREE AND FOUR WHICH IS RESTRICTING THE DISPLAY OF THE ONE TEMPORARY SIGN FOR TWO PARKING SPOTS PLACED AT THE HEAD OF THE PARKING SPACE DESIGNATED FOR CURB SIDE PICKUP AND REMOVAL OF THE PARKING LOTS WHICH SERVE MULTIPLE TENANTS AND THE DESIGN OF TOWN CENTER.

WE ARE MOVING THAT SECTION AGAIN.

THE LAST SLIDE ON THIS WAS THE TEMPORARY SIGNS ON BUILDINGS AND WINDOWS.

THERE WAS ONE QUESTION THAT CAME UP IN REGARDS TO THE TEMPORARY SIGNS ON WINDOWS TO SAY INSTEAD OF THE LANGUAGE RESTRICTING IT TO ONE PERHAPS WE SHOULD CONSIDER KEEPING IT BUT ALLOWING IT TO BE TWO SIGNS.

THERE WAS ANOTHER ADDITION ABOUT ADDING TO THE STANDARD TEMPORARY SIGNS OVER MONUMENT SIGNS WHICH WOULD BE LANGUAGE TO SAY TEMPORARY SIGNS INSTALLED OVER AN EXISTING MONUMENT SIGN WOULD BE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.

MONUMENT SIGNS AND THE TENANT PANELS SHOULD NOT BE OBSTRUCTED FROM VIEW.

THAT KIND OF SPEAKS TO AN EXAMPLE PROVIDED TO US THANKS TO ARTHUR, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A MONUMENT SIDE.

YOU CANNOT READ ANY OF THE TENANT PANELS BECAUSE THE DRY CLEANER PLACED A TEMPORARY BANNER OVER THE MONUMENT SIGN.

THAT'S GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE STANDARD.

LET ME KNOW IF ANY COMMITTEE HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.

>> ALL RIGHT.

WHAT'S OUR GOAL ON THIS?

>> WELL, I KNOW THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEES WERE CONCERNED THAT IF WE DON'T CONTINUE SOME SORT OF ENFORCEMENT WE MAY LOSE THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE IT AT ALL AT ANY PERIOD OF TIME.

THEY DID UNDERSTAND THE FACT THAT BY PUTTING IN SOME STRICT REGULATIONS WE COULD BE IMPACTING OTHER TENANTS AND THAT'S NOT THE INTENT.

THE INTENT IS, HOWEVER, TO KEEP THE WOODLANDS IN AS BEST A LOOKING FORMAT AS POSSIBLE GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

I BELIEVE THE SUBCOMMITTEES WANTED TO ALLOW THINGS TO GO ON AND REVISIT AT THE END OF OCTOBER TO SEE IF THE SITUATION IS GETTING WORSE OR BETTER TO HELP US GAUGE WHAT GENERAL REQUIREMENTS WE MAY WANT TO FOCUS MORE UPON.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMPLAINTS AT ALL? IS JOHN BROWN ON?

>> I'M HERE.

>> HAS THE BOARD RECEIVED COMPLAINTS FROM ANYBODY ABOUT THE SIGNAGE ISSUES OUT THERE.

>> NO, SIR.

>> I TALKED TO ANN SNYDER AND SHE HADN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS EITHER.

>> THE STAFF HAS NOT RECEIVED ANY EITHER OTHER THAN WHAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMITTEES HELPING US WITH SOME OF THE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.

>> WE ARE SENDING NOTICES FOR SIGNS THAT HAVE FALLEN OVER AND ARE IN NEED OF REPAIR AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WE ARE PURSUING WHERE WE FIND SOMETHING IS EGREGIOUSLY LOOKING BAD.

>> BUT YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME NOR THE FOLKS NOW TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, WOULD YOU?

>> WELL, WE ARE SPENDING THE TIME WE CAN.

AND HAVE AVAILABLE FOR SOMETHING THAT LOOKS REALLY BAD.

THE INITIAL STANDARDS WOULD REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL WORK AND TIME.

WE'RE PRETTY PRESSED RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE, TO BE HONEST.

>> I'M SORRY, ROBERT.

GO AHEAD.

>> WHAT WE ARE SUGGESTING IS OTHER THAN BANNERS, ET CETERA, THAT ARE FALLING

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OVER OR, YOU KNOW, THE THINGS YOU'RE DOING RIGHT NOW LEAVE THIS AS IS AND REVISIT AT THE END OF OCTOBER.

AT THAT TIME WE MAY ADOPT THIS AND START ENFORCING IT, BUT WE'LL REVISIT THE ISSUE.

WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO PASS THESE RIGHT NOW AND GO OUT AND ENFORCE THEM.

>> I THINK THAT'S FAIR ENOUGH.

WHAT DO YOU THINK, WALT?

>> FAIR ENOUGH.

HOPEFULLY OCTOBER WE'LL EITHER SINK OR SWIM BY THEN.

>> I THINK IT'S A FAIR AND PRUDENT APPROACH.

BUT I THINK ENFORCEMENT, SOME OF THE SIGNS ON 242, IT'S NICE TO SEND LETTERS BUT THEY NEED TO GET SOME PHONE CALLS THAT REALLY MOTIVATE THEM TO EITHER TAKE THEM DOWN, REPLACE THEM, OR THE TOWNSHIP OUGHT TO GO BY AND TAKE THEM DOWN.

IT'S REALLY LOOKING TRASHY WEEK ON WEEK.

THE OTHER THING IS MONUMENT SIGNS SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO HANG TEMPORARY SIGNS.

THAT SMALL STRIP CENTER, THAT ONE BUSINESS HAS OVERTAKEN ALL THE REST OF THE BUSINESSES TO TAKE AWAY IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT THAT MAN MEANT SIGN SHOULD SAY.

HE'S GOT BOTH SIGNS OCCUPIED.

>> HOW DO YOU CONTACT THESE PEOPLE? DO YOU CALL THEM? IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SAYS YOU CAN'T GO VISIT THEM?

>> WE HAVE DONE BOTH CALL AND SEND LETTER.

THE REASON FOR THE CALL IS WE KNOW THAT TENDS TO BE MORE EFFECTIVE TO GET TO THE TENANT VERSUS A CORPORATE OFFICE.

THE REASON WE SEND LETTERS IS WE HAVE TO HAVE WRITTEN DOCUMENTATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE COVENANTS TO IDENTIFY THAT WE HAVE PROVIDED NOTICE IN REGARDS TO WHAT'S REQUIRED.

WE HAVE NOT WALKED INTO THE BUSINESSES CURRENTLY.

I'LL LET HENNIE SPEAK FURTHER TO THAT ITEM.

WE HAVE ONLY RECENTLY AS OF MONDAY ALLOWED FOR SOME SITE VISITS WHERE WE CAN EXIT OUR VEHICLES.

BUT IN THE PRACTICE OF SOCIAL DISTANCING WE HAVE NOT GONE INTO THE ESTABLISHMENTS AND ENGAGED.

OFTEN TIMES IN THE PAST WHEN WE HAVE DONE THAT IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE INDIVIDUAL YOU NEED TO SPEAK WITH IS NOT NECESSARILY THERE AT THE STOREFRONT WHEN YOU NEED TO ADDRESS THEIR SIGN.

WE HAVE FOUND CALLS TO BE EFFECTIVE.

BUT WE DO HAVE A LOT OF SIGNS THAT ARE IN NEED OF MAINTENANCE.

AND FREQUENTLY SO.

WE HAVE HAD ONE COMMERCIAL PARCEL WHERE WE HAVE SENT THREE NOTICES.

WE ARE UP TO THE COVENANT LETTER AND IN SOME OF THOSE INSTANCES THE INDIVIDUAL DID MAKE A REPAIR OR MODIFY THE SIGN ONLY FOR IT TO BE PULLED DOWN AND IN DISREPAIR AGAIN.

THAT'S AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WE GENERALLY WORK WITH WHO IS OBLIGING AND QUICK TO RESPOND TO NOTICES AND INFORMATION WE HAVE SENT.

I CAN LET HENNIE SPEAK MORE TO STAFFING TO GO IN THE STORES.

>> YEAH.

WE HAVE ONLY JUST BEEN ALLOWED, AS KIM MENTIONED, TO EXIT OUR VEHICLES PER SE AND THEN IF WE NEED TO GO INTO A STORE WE COULD.

WE ARE ENCOURAGED NOT TO HAVE ANY INTERACTION WITH PEOPLE FACE TO FACE.

THAT'S PART OF THE PROBLEM.

ALSO IF WE WERE TO HIRE A THIRDâ€'PARTY CONTRACTOR WE'LL REMOVE THE COSTS WE ENINCUR ARE NOT RECOVERABLE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A COURT ORDER PER SE TO PERFORM THESE ACTUAL DUTIES.

BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BE FACE TO FACE WITH FOLKS AT THIS POINT.

>> OKAY.

>> WE SEND FOLKS OUT.

THEY PROVIDE NOTICE ON RESIDENTIAL.

WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE.

THEY MAY NOT COME OUT OF THEIR HOME.

THE SAME GOES FOR THE COMMERCIAL.

WE NEED TO BE OUT THERE TO TAKE PHOTOS FOR THINGS, LET THEM KNOW THAT NO INTERACTION IS PERMITTED AND IF THEY DO WE NEED TO LEAVE THE PREMISES.

>> OKAY.

SO WHAT I UNDERSTAND IS WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US NOW IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO ACT UPON TONIGHT OR NOW BUT WE WILL REVISIT IN OCTOBER.

>> YES, SIR.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

THIS IS BASICALLY A TENTATIVE MOCKâ€'UP FOR SOMETHING WE MIGHT CONSIDER IN OCTOBER.

>> OKAY.

AT THE PRESENT TIME THEN STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO CONTACT BUSINESSES, EITHER

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BY PHONE OR BY LETTER, ASKING THEM TO FIX THEIR SIGNS, DRESS THEIR SIGNS UP, OR END UP HAVING TO REMOVE THOSE SIGNS IF THEY FAIL TO DO THAT.

IS THAT CORRECT?

>> YES, SIR.

IF WE COULD ALSO ADD JUST ASK THEM TO BE CONSIDERATE OF OTHER BUSINESSES THAT ARE HAVING TO DO THE SAME THING.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM TO, I GUESS, CLUTTER A RIGHT OF WAY ONE BUSINESS THAT PUTS OUT FIVE SIGNS WHILE ONE BUSINESS PUTS OUT ONE, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE THERE.

IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SOME BUSINESSES ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE SITUATION.

I WOULD JUST ASK THEM TO BE CONSIDERATE FOR OTHERS.

>> OKAY.

>> I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE REQUEST.

A BIGGER SIGN DOESN'T GET YOU MORE CUSTOMERS.

>> NO, IT DOESN'T.

>> I KNOW THEY THINK THAT, BUT IT DOESN'T GET THEM MORE CUSTOMERS GENERALLY.

>> SO WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.

>> I THINK IT'S AN ACTION ITEM ON THE AGENDA.

I THINK WHAT YOU COULD DO IS TABLE IT AND SUGGEST IT BE REVISITED IN OCTOBER.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> OKAY.

THIS IS BOB.

I ELECT THAT WE TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER WHEN WE CAN RESEARCH AND EVALUATE THE SITUATIONS AND CONDITIONS AT THAT TIME.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, GUYS.

APPRECIATE THAT.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE NEXT ITEM?

[V. Consideration and action regarding the Residential Development Standards and Commercial Planning and Design Standards for interim actions during the Coronavirus (COVID-19) Pandemic. (Part 2 of 2)]

>> IF YOU WOULD LIKE, YOU HAVE THE ITEM AT THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA THAT WE PUSHED DOWN TO THE BOTTOM TO DISCUSS THE SPACE SHARING PARKING AREAS, PART OF THE CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC CHANGES ABOUT ACCESS IN THE OUTDOOR AREAS.

>> OKAY.

HAVE PEOPLE READ THAT PROGRAM?

>> YES, SIR.

>> DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT PROGRAM IS?

>> YES.

>> DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY PROBLEMS WITH IT?

>> MY ONLY CONCERNS ARE I ASSUME IT'S MEANT FOR ALL OF THE INDOOR FURNITURE TO BE TAKEN OUTSIDE AND PUT IN THE PARKING LOT.

WHAT WOULD WE DO ABOUT UMBRELLAS, LIGHTING, PROTECTION FOR THE PATRONS AGAINST VEHICLES? WE USUALLY HAVE â€'â€' YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY A PATIO WHERE WE HAVE FENCING AND A CURB AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.

IN THIS SITUATION, IT'S BASICALLY DIRECT ACCESS FOR A CAR TO HIT ANYBODY.

SO WHAT KIND OF PROTECTION ALLOWANCES ARE BEING MADE AT THIS TIME?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK â€'â€' I WAS THINKING MORE OF SIDEWALKS THAN I AM OF A PARKING LOT.

>> OKAY.

I THOUGHT THE INFORMATION READ UP TO 50% OF THE PARKING LOT.

>> YEAH.

I THINK WE WOULD BE SAFER IF WE JUST ALLOWED THE SIDEWALKS.

>> I AGREE.

I THINK THE ONLY THING TO BE AWARE OF AT THAT POINT THEN IS UMBRELLAS, LIGHTING, CIRCULATION FLOW NOT TO IMPEDE ADA ACCESS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

>> I THINK THE INTENT WOULD ALSO BE AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK WE WOULD REQUIRE EACH ONE OF THOSE FOLKS TO MAKE APPLICATION FOR THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A BLANKET APPROVAL.

>> THAT'S WHAT THEY DO ALSO.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TEST SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT BOB MENTIONED WHAT'S THE IMPACT AND WE MAY HAVE TO LIMIT SOME OF THE APPLICATIONS.

THEY FEEL THE IMPACT IS TOO LARGE BUT WORK WITH THE BUSINESS IN A MORE MODIFIED APPROACH.

>> WOULD THIS BE A TEMPORARY IMPROVEMENT?

>> TEMPORARY.

THIS IS JUST IF THERE IS A VACCINE NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW.

AND THIS THING IS ALL OVER WITH THAT'S OVER WITH ALSO.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PERMANENT THING.

JUST TEMPORARY.

[03:55:02]

>> VERY GOOD.

>> I HAVE ALSO REACHED OUT TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND HAVE THE FIRE MARSHAL LOOKING INTO WHETHER THEY HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR ISSUES.

>> HENNIE, CAN I REQUEST THAT STAFF WORK ON AN APPLICATION THAT WE CAN MAKE AVAILABLE?

>> YES, SIR.

WE CAN DO THAT.

>> SURE.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> LOOK, IT'S A GOOD ATTEMPT TO TRY TO ASSIST BUSINESSES TO GROW SOME ADDITIONAL CUSTOMERS AND IT REALLY DEMONSTRATES A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY BY THE TOWNSHIP AND THE DSC TO BRING NEW IDEAS TO THE TABLE TO DEAL WITH THIS PANDEMIC.

>> ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE, KIM?

>> I BELIEVE THAT BRINGS YOU TO MEMBER COMMENTS, SIR.

[XI. Member Comments]

>> ALL RIGHT.

ARTHUR, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING?

>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR DILIGENCE, THEIR FLEXIBILITY WITH THE RDRCS AND ALL THEY DO TO SUPPORT THE COMMITTEE, ESPECIALLY IN THESE TRYING TIMES.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THAT'S IT, SIR.

>> MARY?

>> I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU ALSO.

I WAS GOING TO POINT SOMETHING OUT EARLIER.

ONE OF THE THINGS.

IT WAS A LITTLE BIT TENSE WITH ONE OF THE ARTICLES.

THE WOMAN WITH â€'â€' I SAW THE FIRST SOLAR PANELS ON A ROOF.

DID ANYONE ELSE SEE THAT TONIGHT?

>> YES.

>> YES.

>> IT WAS BEHIND THAT DOG RUN OR DOG KENNEL OR SOMETHING.

IT WASN'T IN HER YARD.

BUT RIGHT BEHIND IT, THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME I SAW A HOUSE IN THE WOODLANDS THAT HAD SOLAR PANELS.

>> THERE'S A NUMBER OF THEM.

>> OH, THERE ARE?

>> OH, YEAH.

>> I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY OF THEM.

>> THERE ARE QUITE A FEW PERMITTED ONES.

>> REALLY?

>> YES.

MOST OF THEM ARE ON THE SIDE IN THE REAR OF THE DWELLING.

THEY'RE LOW PROFILE.

>> YEAH.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE THE RIGHT TYPE OF ROOF, TOO.

THERE'S A LOT OF ROOFS THAT DON'T SUPPORT SOLAR.

BUT IT DIDN'T REALLY LOOK THAT BAD.

I JUST NOTICED IT TONIGHT FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THAT'S ABOUT ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU.

BOB ADAMS?

>> NO, SIR.

THANK YOU STAFF.

>> JOHN ANDERSON?

>> I WAS WONDERING HAVE WE LOOKED INTO HOW TO GET RID OF THE DELAY BETWEEN THE BROADCAST AND THE ACTUAL MEETING?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

>> IT SEEMS TO BE A REAL ISSUE.

IT WOULD BE PROBABLY BENEFICIAL TO LOOK INTO IT AT LEAST.

>> CAN YOU PUT THAT ON YOUR TOâ€'DO LIST?

>> YEP.

>> OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE, JOHN?

>> JUST THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

>> OKAY.

JOHN ANTHONY.

>> I'LL PASS.

>> ROBERT?

>> PASS.

>> I'VE GOT ONE THING.

DO YOU THINK WE COULD â€'â€' YOU KNOW, I THINK WE OUGHT TO MOVE PUBLIC COMMENTS DOWN TO THE LAST THING.

YOU KNOW, WE WASTE 10, 15 MINUTES EVERY SINGLE MEETING WITH SOMEBODY RAISING THEIR HAND AND THEN IT'S FOR SOME AGENDA THAT'S LATER ON.

>> WE USED TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END.

YOU WOULD MENTION AT THE BEGINNING ARE THERE PUBLIC COMMENTS AND WE'D HEAR IT.

WE RECENTLY ATTENDED A TRAINING COURSE THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND AS A RESULT OF THAT WE HAD BEEN PROVIDED THE REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC COMMENTS HAS TO BE AN OPTION AFFORDED TO THE PUBLIC AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.

SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS THEN MOVED THERE.

THAT WAS BASED ON THE TRAINING AND THE INFORMATION RECEIVED FROM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL.

>> I THINK IT'S PERFECT IF WE ARE FACE TO FACE.

BUT WE GO THROUGH THIS EVERY SINGLE MEETING.

IT JUST ADDS ON.

IF IT'S A REQUIREMENT, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO DO IT.

MAYBE WE COULD STRESS MORE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS.

>> I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.

JUST TO STRESS THAT THESE ARE ONLY FOR COMMENTS THAT DON'T PERTAIN TO A PARTICULAR ITEM.

YOU MAY HAVE TO REPEAT IT SEVERAL TIMES.

>> MAYBE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF US GOING THROUGH THE LONG GOVERNOR ABBOTT THING MAYBE

[04:00:01]

WE CAN JUST CHANNEL IT DOWN.

JUST PUT THE COPY UP THERE.

YOU HAVE BEEN ABLE TO READ THIS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUBLIC COMMENT AND THIS IS WHAT IT'S ABOUT.

THEN REâ€'EMPHASIZE THAT AGAIN.

>> I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.

WE CAN EVEN ADD SOME SCREENS TO FOCUS ON WHAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS AND SPECIFY IF THEY ARE THERE FOR AN ITEM THAT WOULD BE HEARD LATER.

WE CAN GIVE IT A TRY.

>> GIVE IT THE BEST TRY.

>> I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S HELP ON THAT ISSUE WE â€'â€' DOG RUN ISSUE WE DEALT WITH EARLIER.

I'M SURE THAT WON'T BE THE LAST TIME WE DISCUSS THAT SUBJECT.

STAFF, COMMENTS?

>> NO.

>> NO, SIR.

>> NES?

>> NO, SIR.

>> HENNIE?

>> I HAD A QUESTION JUST IN ORDER FOR PREPARATION FOR THE MEETING REGARDING THAT GENTLEMAN WITH THE DRAINAGE AND THE DRAINAGE PLANS.

WHEN WE GET THAT IN, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO ADDRESS AND FIX, I GUESS? JUST SO WE CAN BE PREPARED.

>> I DON'T THINK WE KNOW YET UNTIL WE GET THE TWO MATCHED TOGETHER.

I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT AND GIVE THAT TO OUR ENGINEERING FOLKS AND SAY BASED ON THAT, IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE FLOWâ€'THROUGH DRAINAGE FROM FRONT TO BACK ON ALL THESE LOTS OR, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE â€'â€' WE'VE GOT AN ISSUE.

>> OKAY.

>> GET THEIR INPUT ON IT.

>> OKAY.

THAT CERTAINLY HELPS ME OUT.

SO I WOULD LIKE THEM TO >> WE HAVE THE EXHIBIT.

SEND IT TO ME AND I WANT TO SEND IT TO â€'â€' FOLKS.

>> THAT HELPS US PREPARE FOR HOW WE WANT TO ADDRESS IT WHEN WE DO GET THERE THE NEXT MEETING.

THANK YOU.

>> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> WE'RE GOING TO MEET FRIDAY? IS IT JUST THE ONE ITEM WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS?

>> YES.

>> OKAY.

SO IT SHOULD BE A SHORT MEETING.

>> CORRECT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT THEN.

PROBABLY THE BEST PART OF THE WHOLE MEETING.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN?

>> I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION.

>> SECOND.

>> ALL RIGHT.

I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE.

I THINK EVERYBODY AGREES.

THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYTHING, GUYS.

I REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, EVERYONE.

>> BE SAFE.

BE WELL.

SEE YOU FRIDAY.

>> TAKE CARE.

>> GOOD NIGHT.

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