Aug 19, 2026 Budget Workshop #3

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>> GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO DAY 3.

GOOD TO SEE YOU GUYS EVERY MORNING, OF THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBER 3.

[1. Invocation / Pledge of Allegiance;]

PRAYER. >> HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE EACH DAY TO SERVE.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE STAFF. WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT'S COMMITTED TO THIS WONDERFUL MACE WE CALL THE WOODLANDS. GIVE US WISDOM, PATIENCE AND HUMILITY AS WE NAVIGATE THIS PROCESS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THAT IN JESUS' NAME.

AMEN. >> PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

>> THE TEXAS FLAG. >> HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG; I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[2. Call meeting to order;]

>> ALL RIGHT, IT IS 8:31 A.M. I DECLARE ACCORDANCE OF STATE LAW THIS MEETING WAS POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING, POSTING OCCURRED INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP AT THIS OFFICE BUILDING.

STATE LAW REQUIRES AT LEAST FOUR BOARD MEMBERS BE IN ATTENDANCE TO ESTABLISH A QUORUM FOR CONDUCTING BUSINESS.

I WILL CALL THE ROLL. >> VICE-CHAIRMAN EISSLER?

>> PRESENT. >> DIRECTOR FRANKS?

>> PRESENT. >> DIRECTOR HEISER?

>> HERE. >> DIRECTOR LAMB?

>> HERE. >> DIRECTOR NELSON?

[3. Receive, consider and act upon adoption of the meeting agenda;]

>> HERE. >> DIRECTOR SEKULA-GIBBS.

I DECLARE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM. I CALL FOR THE ADOPTION OF THE

AGENDA. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MOVED BY VICE-CHAIRMAN EISSLER, SECONDED BY DIRECTOR SECK GIBBS.

[4. Recognize public officials;]

[5. Public comment;]

TO. IT IS ACCEPTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES: EACH PERSON MUST SIGN TO THE SPEAKERS ROSTER. INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO MAKE GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS, ADDRESS A ITEM THAT IS NOT INCLUDED ON THE AGENDA OR SPECIFIC AGENDA ITEMS MUST DO SO AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH MEETING. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE LIMITED TO A TOTAL OF 3 MINUTES REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF TOPICS.

IF THERE'S MORE THAN 15 SPEAKERS SIGNED UP FOR A PUBLIC COMMENT EACH SPEAKER WILL BE LIMITED TO 2 MINUTES REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF TOPICS. SPEAKERS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED TO YIELD THEIR TIME FOR ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THE LIST.

STATE LAW PROHIBITS THE BOARD FROM FORMALLY ACTING UPON A SPECIFIC ITEM FROM PUBLIC COMMENT UNLESS IS APPEARS ON THE POSTED AGENDA. THEREFORE ANY DISCUSSION OF ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE ITEM A IS [INDISCERNIBLE] ON A FUTURE BOARD AGENDA. SPEAKERS WILL EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS AND VIEWPOINTS ON ISSUES BUT ARE NOT PERMITTED TO PARTICIPATE IN A DEBATE OF AN ISSUE.

SPEAKERS WILL NOT USE PROFANITY. COMMENTS FROM SPEAKERS TO THE BOARD MAY BE -- TO THE BOARD OR A WHOLE OR TO INDIVIDUAL DIRECTORS. ALSO, I REMIND YOU TO PLACE YOUR CELLPHONES ON SILENT. I CALL ON THE FIRST SPEAKER AND THE ONLY SPEAKER OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY, MR. VINCE DALTON. MR. DALTON, WELCOME.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES. MR. DALTON DOES HAVE A HANDOUT THAT I WILL PASS DOWN FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.

>> GREETINGS, CHAIRMAN AND THE REST.

OFFICIALS. TODAY I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A FUTURE AMENITY THAT I BELIEVE MAY BE PLEASING TO THE BOARD.

IT'S A BIT UNORDINARY BUT I BELIEVE IT FITS THE DESIGN CONCEPT OF THE WOODLANDS. HERE I HAVE A BIT OF A STABILIZER BROUGHT OUT OF THE WOODS FOR MY SPEECH.

BUT ANYWAY... SO JUST WANT TO SHOW YOU A QUICK PICTURE BEFORE I TALK ABOUT IT. IT'S A PRESERVATION FOUNTAIN THAT WOULD BE PUT IN ONE OF THE NATURE PRESERVES, AND SORT OF NORTH OF THE GOLF COURSE DEVELOPMENT Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SPEAKING ABOUT. SO -- AND HERE I HAVE KIND OF A SHORT INTRODUCTION OF THE AMENITY.

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THIS SURPRISINGLY UNIQUE FRAMEWORK BASIS AND DESIGN PHILOSOPHY HELPS US TO INSPIRE [INDISCERNIBLE] TO BE ACTIVE AND APPRECIATIVE OF THESE ASPECTS IN ORDER TO REMAIN RESILIENT PHYSICALLY, MENTALLY AND EVENT EEN EVEN SPIRITUALLY. THE CONCEPT FOR A PRESERVATION FOUNTAIN ORIGINATES FROM THESE NECESSARY TRAITS AS AN INSPIRATIONAL MONUMENTS. IT'S REQUESTED FOR EARLY FEASIBILITY AS AN AMENITY JUST NORTH OF THE ROUGHLY 50-ACRE CORRIDOR ALONG THE SPRING CREEK GREENWAY.

NEAR GOSSEN ROAD. THE FOLLOWING PICTURES ARE NOT A RENDER CONCEPT. THEY DERIVED FROM WHAT WAS DEEMED THE WATER WALL FROM MENTOR GARDENS OF THE TOWN CHILLIWACK BRITISH COLUMBIA, CANADA NEAR VANCOUVER.

MENTOR GARDENS WAS CLOSED IN THE NEAR 2013 AND THE FOUNTAIN ALSO DEMOLISHED, SO PERHAPS THIS EXACT DESIGN WITH A FEW MODIFICATIONS MAY BE SALVAGED IN THE WOODLANDS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS AMBITIOUS AMENITY IS RUMINATING OVER ITS TREMENDOUS AESTHETIC VALUE AND MOTION WHICH REMAINS SIMPLE AND COHERENT REFLECTING TOWNSHIP VALUES.

I'VE GOT A HANDOUT, DOCUMENTATION DETAILING EVERYTHING. AND I DON'T REALLY WANTING TO OVER IT HERE TOO MUCH SO -- BUT GOT A MAP WITH THE PLACEMENT OF THE FOUNTAIN AND A FEW PICTURES WITHIN THE DOCUMENT THAT I PUT

OVER THERE, SO -- >> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S ALL TODAY. >> FOR PASSING THAT DOWN FOR EVERYONE TO LOOK AT AND WE'LL LOOK INTO IT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> I ALSO LEFT MY EMAIL AND A VIDEO OF THE SOUND OF THE FOUNTAIN THAT SOMEBODY HAPPENED TO RECORD BEFORE IT CLOSED AND IT'S VERY LUSH AND KIND OF LOUD

SO I THINK IT WOULD BE SERENE. >> AWESOME.

APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU.

>> GOOD SUGGESTION. >> ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT.

MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 6 WE DON'T NEED THAT BECAUSE OF --

[7. Receive, consider and act upon the 2027 Preliminary Budget for The Woodlands Township;]

>> WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH A LOT THE PAST TWO DAYS, I'LL GET TO WHERE WE LEFT OFF, WHICH WAS CAPITAL.

SO JUST AS A RECAP, AS OF -- OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS, WE HAVE COVERED A LOT OF TERRITORY IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET.

WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT REVENUE SOURCES, OUR OPERATING EXPENDITURES ON A DEPARTMENTAL LEVEL BASIS.

WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR DEBT PROFILE AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT OUR RESERVES. SO THE FINAL PIECE OF THE BUDGET IS OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. BUT BEFORE I GO INTO THAT, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PAST TWO DAYS THAT COVER ANY OF THE THINGS THAT I JUST MENTIONED? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY LATER IN THE PROCESS TO TALK ABOUT ANY AMENDMENTS, BUDGET INITIATIVES, TAX RATE AND ALL THAT BUT I'M JUST ASKING IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC TO WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. IF NOT, I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. SO HERE IS A LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS. OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND FOR 2027. WE ARE REQUESTING $13.7 MILLION TOTAL IN PROJECTS. THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF THAT IS PARKS AND RECREATION AT 8.7 MILLION.

100% OF THAT BUDGET IS FUNDED FROM THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT RESERVES, SO THESE ARE PROJECTS WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION

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THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS $3.1 MILLION IN ASSETS.

I-T 1 ASK 1.4 MILLION AND FAST F MILLION.

THE FACILITIES A HALF MILLION.

THE CHART AT THE BOTTOM IS ONE OF THE REASONS THIS ORGANIZATION IS IN SUCH GREAT FINANCIAL SHAPE.

IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE FOR A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND THAT IS OUR CAPITAL REPLACEMENT RESERVE. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT RESERVE IS SPENDING 96% OR $13.2 MILLION OF OUR CAPITAL ASSETS AND THE GENERAL FUND IS FUNDING WHAT WE CALL NEW ASSETS, SO NOT REPLACEMENT ASSETS. FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT 500,000 AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WHAT THOSE ARE.

IN TERMS OF PARKS AND RECREATION, HERE IS A LOOK AT THE TOTAL 2027 EXPENDITURES, JUST SORT OF ON A BROAD CATEGORY BASIS. AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL. BUT PATHWAYS, YOU CAN SEE AND OUR ATHLETIC FACILITIES ARE OUR HIGHEST COST -- OR HIGHEST CAPITAL PROJECT COST. SO HERE IS A LOOK IN PARKS AND RECREATION OF OUR REPLACEMENT CAPITAL.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE IN DETAIL LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM. IT IS IN YOUR BUDGET.

WE PREPARE FOR EACH ASSET THAT WE'RE REQUESTING, WHETHER IT'S REPLACEMENT OR NEW, THERE ARE WITHIN YOUR BINDER, YOUR CAPITAL SECTION, THERE'S A PAGE, A DOCUMENT FOR EACH OF THESE, EXPRESSING WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR REPLACEMENT, IF THERE'S ANY ALTERNATIVES IN A REALLY DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF WHAT THE PROJECT IS. BUT AS YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS LIST, IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO TOUCH UPON, WE'LL BE GLAD TO DO THAT.

ER HERE IS THEHERE IS THE NEXT . I DO WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE VERY LAST ITEM ON THAT PAGE, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROJECTS AT ALMOST 1.2 MILLION. THIS IS MORE OF AN ACCOUNTING ENTRY THAN A REAL PROJECT. SO IF YOU'LL RECALL, WE HAVE ABOUT $1.2 MILLION LEFT IN YOUR NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND FOR DIRECTOR LAMB'S -- TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT IS, SINCE WE'RE HERE IN 2022 WE HAD A NEEDS ASSESSMENT DONE ON OUR BUYER PARKS AND ENTIRE PARKS AND PATHWAY SYSTEM AND THERE WERE SOME MONIES THAT WERE SET ASIDE FOR THOSE PROJECTS AS THEY CAME FORWARD. SO THE BOARD HAS ALREADY SPENT QUITE A BIT OF THOSE FUNDS, FOR INSTANCE ALL THE BRIDGE SPORTS PARK RENOVATION AND ALL THE NEW RESTROOMS -- RESTROOM RENOVATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS.

BUT THIS IS MORE OF AN ACCOUNTING ENTRY THAT WE NEEDED FOR THE BUDGET MODEL PURPOSES. WE WILL BE BRINGING PROJECTS AS WE WANT TO TAP INTO THAT RESERVE TO THE BOARD INDIVIDUALLY.

AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK WE HAVE THREE BUDGET INITIATIVES TODAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT BEING FUNDED FROM

THAT RESERVE. >> SINCE YOU BROUGHT THAT UP, THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT, [INDISCERNIBLE] DOES THAT INCLUDE THE GOSLING PATHWAY THAT GOES FROM THE RESERVE -- I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED EXACTLY BUT THE WOODLANDS RESERVE UP TO WOODLANDS PARKWAY? I KNOW WE WERE PARTNERING WITH THE [INDISCERNIBLE] AND IT WAS FAIRLY EXPENSIVE.

SO IS THAT IN THERE? >> THAT'S NOT PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESERVE BUT IT IS PART OF THE COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY SERVICES AGREEMENT RESERVE.

IT'S A SEPARATE RESERVE. >> IT IS COVERED?

>> YES, IT IS COVERED. >> OKAY, THANK YOU.

>> SO MONIQUE, THIS LINE ITEM, NEEDS ASSESSMENT PROJECTS, THAT'S MORE OR LESS A JOURNAL ENTRY OR --

>> IT IS. IT IS.

>> AND THAT'S GOING TO BE ZEROING OUT THAT NEEDS

ASSESSMENT RESERVE -- >> IF WE WERE TO SPEND ALL OF THIS, IT WOULD ZERO IT OUT. BUT AGAIN, THIS DOES NOT COMMIT -- THIS DOES NOT AUTHORIZE STAFF IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THOSE FUNDS.

EACH OF THOSE PROJECTS HAS TO COME TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.

>> OKAY. HERE IS ANOTHER PAGE.

LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE.

>> WHAT TURF IS BEING REPLACED THIS YEAR?

>> GOSLING FIELDS 1, 2 AND 3. >> OKAY.

>> WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THOSE WERE REPLACED?

>> THEY WERE INSTALLED IN 2015, SO WE'RE AT THE TEN-YEAR MARK.

THAT'S WHY THE REPLACEMENT CYCL. >> IS THERE ANY RESALE VALUE TO

THAT STUFF EVER? >> NO.

>> NO? IF I WANTED TURF IN MY BACKWARD

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>> THERE'S THE NEXT PAGE. SO ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PARKS CAPITAL? AGAIN THESE PROJECTS ARE 100% FUNDED BY THE REPLACEMENT RESERVE.

>> WHEN WE SAY PATHWAY IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT CONCRETE

OR ADDITIONAL PATHS? >> THAT'S -- DO YOU WANT TO

ANSWER THAT. >> THAT IS -- ARE WE TALKING THE

425,000-DOLLAR LINE ITEM? >> YES, SIR.

>> THERE ARE ABOUT THREE, FOUR DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE IN THAT BUDGET. EVERYTHING FROM STOP SIGNS TO REPLACEMENT OF SECTIONS OF PATHWAYS THAT ARE BROKEN, CHIPPED, NEED TO BE REPAIRED. WE'RE TALKING A PANEL HERE, A HUNDRED FEET THERE THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM AS WELL.

>> OKAY, SO HE THAT'S NOT INCLUDING LIKE ANY RUMBLE STRIPS

OR ANYTHING -- >> NO, IT IS NOT.

>> OKAY ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WE'LL MOVE ON TO FIRE DEPARTMENT CAPITAL. FIRE DEPARTMENT CAPITAL TOTAL IS $3.1 MILLION THE 1,000,375 WHERE I HAVE THE BOX DOWN AT THE SIDE, THIS IS PART OF THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD EITHER YESTERDAY OR MONDAY. THIS FIRE ENGINE WAS APPROVED BY THE BOARD IN 2024. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ADVANCE FUNDING, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES IN ORDER TO GET -- ONCE YOU PLACE AN ORDER TO GET ONE.

SO THIS WAS ALREADY APPROVED. AGAIN WE'RE JUST SETTING UP THE CAPITAL PROJECT IN 2027, BECAUSE WE'RE EXPECTING FOR IT TO BE DELIVERED THIS YEAR. SO -- BUT THE FUNDS HAVE ALREADY

BEEN COMMITTED PREVIOUSLY. >> IS SEVEN YEARS -- LOOKS LIKE IT WAS A 2017 FIRE ENGINE, REPLACED IN 2024, SEVEN YEARS

THE NORM HOW LONG THEY LAST? >> THERE'S -- DO YOU WANT TO -- THIS WILL BE A TEN-YEAR ASSET. 2017 TO 2027, TEN YEARS.

>> I THOUGHT IT WAS BOUGHT IN 2024.

>> WE ORDERED IT IN 2024 KNOWING THAT IT WAS GOING TO TAKE THREE

YEARS. >> I DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO CHIEF I MIGHT ASK YOU THIS: SEEING THE COST, 40% INCREASE OF THESE ENGINES, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY, LOOKING AT SOME WAYS TO SAVE SOME MONEY, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT WE GET PERCENTAGE WISE -- NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT -- THAT ARE

MEDICAL -- >> 65% THESE.

>> VERSUS FIRE. SO 65%?

>> FOR MEDICAL CALLS. >> WOULD IT BE MORE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THIS BOARD TO LOOK AT ACQUIRING EMT TYPE VEHICLES INSTEAD OF MULTI-MILLION-DOLLAR FIRE TRUCKS TO GO TO CALLS WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING LIKE A HEART ATTACK?

>> SO, THE PROBLEM BECOMES WHEN YOU SHOW UP AT A CALL, YOU'RE DEALING WITH A MEDICAL CALL AND THEN YOU GO RIGHT FROM THERE TO A FIRE CALL. AND SO IT LIMITS YOU -- WE THINK THAT WE CAN AUGMENT OUR SERVICE WITH AN ALS SQUAD THAT CAN HELP OUT AND TAKE SOME OF THE LOAD OFF OF THE LARGE FIRE TRUCKS, WHEN WE KNOW WE HAVE A BUSY AREA SUCH AS TOWN CENTER, AROUND STATION 1. BUT YOU RUN THE RISK OF HAVING THE WRONG APPEAR ARE THE US. APPARATUS SO WE BRING

EVERYTHING TO EVERY CALL. >> YOU SAY NEW SQUAD, MEANING

LIKE YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL -- >> WE DISCUSSED THIS LAST YEAR, THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD HOPED FOR IS AN ALS SQUAD TO RUN OUT OF STATION 1, A TWO-PERSON SQUAD THAT WOULD PRIMARILY RUN MEDICAL CALLS, THAT WOULD TAKE OFF SOME OF THE LOAD ON OUR FRONTLINE FIRE ENGINES AND FIRE TRUCKS.

>> BUT WE DIDN'T SEE PRICING ON THAT? WE DIDN'T SEE COST ASSOCIATED WITH ESTABLISHING THAT?

>> NO, MA'AM, THAT WAS CUT BEFORE THIS BUDGET, SO IT WAS JUST ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AND LAST YEAR ALSO THE BUDGET INITIATIVE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, JUST AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND IT'S IN OUR -- CONTINUES TO BE IN OUR FIVE-YEAR

PLAN. >> A QUESTION ABOUT PIER CITIES, CHIEF: THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT EVERY CITY FACES, IN FACT TO HEAR 65% -- ONLY 65% ARE MEDICAL CALLS IS SURPRISING BECAUSE A LOT OF PLACES, IT'S MUCH HIGHER THAN THAT, BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE WHO JUST BY HABIT OR BY CONVENIENCE, ONCE THEY CALL 911, THEY THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET A RIDE TO THE DOCTOR OR THE HOSPITAL. AND I THINK LINDA NELSON IS SHAKING HER HEAD BECAUSE SHE KNOWS THAT THAT'S TRUE.

AND IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL PIECE, THAT THAT'S NOT THE BEST USE OF

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ANSWER. >> THERE'S DIFFERENT MODELS THAT HAVE BEEN TRIED, BUT JUST LAST NIGHT, LESS THAN 14 HOURS AGO, WE RESPONDED TO A SIMPLE COLLISION RIGHT IN FRONT OF

WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL. >> I SAW THAT.

>> WHEN THEY PULLED UP, A CAR WAS FULLY INVOLVED AND SPREADING TO THE WOODS SO THEY CAME OUT OF THE FIRETRUCK AND THEY WERE ABLE SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS AT THE SAME TIME.

>> THE CAR WAS BURNING? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> OX NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL? >> RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE HIGH

SCHOOL, YES, MA'AM. >> BUT IF SOMEONE CALLS AND SAYS

I'M IN CARDIAC ARREST -- >> THAT WOULD BE HARD FOR THEM TO DO BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO LIGHT UP ON FIRE, I HOPE NOT.

BUT OF THE 35% THAT ARE NOT -- ARE THEY ALL FIRE -- OF THE CALLS THAT Y'ALL RECEIVE, ARE THERE CATS UP IN A TREE --

>> WE ARE THE PUBLIC SAFETY NET. IF YOU CALL AND YOU NEED SOMETHING, YOU KNOW YOU DON'T NEED SOMEBODY ARRESTED, YOU KNOW YOU DON'T NEED SOMEBODY TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL BUN YOU NEED SOMETHING, WE GO OUT AND WE SOLVE ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS, FROM BLOCKED ROADWAYS, SPILLS, FIRE ALARMS, FIRE ACTIVATIONS, PEOPLE THAT FALL AND CAN'T GET UP, AND WE HELP THEM UP.

FROGS THAT ARE PRETENDING TO BE DOGS IN THE GUTTERS.

AND SO WE'RE -- TRULY ALL HAZARDS DEPARTMENT.

>> THE ENGINES, ARE THEY JUDGED ON LONGEVITY BY MILES? LIKE A CAR? OR HOURS FOR RUNNING?

>> ENGINE HOURS IS THE PRIMARY THING THAT WE LOOK AT.

NOW, WE DO HAVE THAT STANDARD THAT'S A NATIONAL STANDARD THAT TEN YEARS IS THE FRONTLINE APPARATUS, 15 -- ANOTHER FIVE YEARS AS A RESERVE APPARATUS. YOU'LL SEE IN ONE OF THE FUNDING ASKS IN HERE IS TO BUY ANOTHER MOTOR, A 70,000-DOLLAR MOTOR, TO PUT INTO AN OLDER FIRE APPARATUS TO MAKE IT GO LONGER.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT, HOW CAN WE SAVE MONEY. THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT. AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE AUGMENTED OUR FLEET, TECHNICIAN STAFF.

SO WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IN HOUSE RATHER THAN GO OUT OF

HOUSE. >> GOOD IDEA.

I HAVE LOOKED AT SOME DIFFERENT ISSUES BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE LIKE 74% OF OUR CALLS ARE FOR MEDICAL CALLS AND I ALSO UNDERSTAND IN INVESTIGATION TALKING TO SOME FOLKS THAT OUR LEGISLATION DOES NOT ALLOW US TO TRANSPORT BODIES, IS THAT

CORRECT, MONIQUE? >> SO THE STATE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT. WE COULD, IF WE WANTED TODAY --

>> CAN YOU CLARIFY, IS THAT A DEAD BODY?

>> NO, MEDICAL. >> I ASSUME YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT

TRANSPORTING PATIENTS. >>

>> SO WE COULD BECOME A TRANSPORT AGENCY AND PURCHASE -- AND STAFF AMBULANCES. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL PARTNER IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT THAT DOES THAT, SIMILAR TO THE MODEL THAT WE'VE EMBRACED AT THE WOODLANDS WHERE WE HAVE A THIRD SERVICE THAT IS FUNDED BY THEMSELVES, THAT PROVIDE THAT.

WE ALSO HAVE A PARTNER IN HARRIS COUNTY WITH ESD11 THAT DOES THAT TRANSPORT SERVICE BUT IT DOESN'T EXHIBIT US FROM GETTING INTO THE

EMS BUSINESS. >> THE ONLY THING, AS I UNDERSTAND, AS WE'VE TALKED BEFORE, IS THAT IF THE MONTGOMERY -- IF THEY'VE GOT TO GO TO MAGNOLIA THEY'RE GOING TO MAGNOLIA, THEY'RE NOT DEDICATED JUST TO THE WOODLANDS, RIGHT.

>> CORRECT. >> IT SEEMS TO ME AGAIN SINCE 74% OF OUR CALLS ARE MEDICAL, THAT THAT OUGHT TO BE ADDRESSED FIRST THING AND WHILE WE CAN'T DO IT, THINKING ABOUT SOME OF THE OTHER INNOVATIVE WAYS WE'VE SOLVED PROBLEMS, LIKE NOT BEING ABLE TO HAVE A POLICE FORCE, WHAT IF WE WERE TO CONTRACT WITH MONTGOMERY HEALTH DISTRICT FOR TWO AMBULANCES THAT STAY IN THE WOODLANDS AT STATIONS THAT ARE MOST APPROPRIATE, SO WE GET THAT MEDICAL CALL, WE HAVE A FULLY TRAINED STAFF AND WE HAVE THE MEANS TO GET PEOPLE FROM WHATEVER THEIR ISSUE IS IN TERMS OF A HOUSEHOLD OR WHATEVER, IMMEDIATELY TO THE HOSPITAL.

WE TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY; I WOULD SUGGEST WE NEED TO LOOK CAREFULLY AT LIFE SAFETY AND NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T DO WHAT WE CAN DO, BUT WE CAN'T POSSIBLY DUPLICATE THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY FULL AMBULANCE SERVICE BY THE HEALTH DISTRICT. SO I THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING IN FUTURE THAT MAYBE THE BOARD OUGHT TO EXPLORE.

>> WE SHOULD EXPLORE WHAT THE COST OF AN AMBULANCE IS.

>> WE CAN. AND I APPRECIATE DIRECTOR

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>> WELL, TRANSPORTATION TO HOSPITAL SEEMS TO ME TO BE

IMPORTANT IN MANY CASES. >> IT IS.

>> I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T DO WHAT WE CAN DO.

WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS WE CAN'T DO EVERYTHING.

>> CORRECT. >> SO THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING.

WE'RE ALWAYS CONCERNED AS I SAID ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, PUBLIC SAFETY, BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL THIS STUFF, BUT IF I'M HAVING A HEART ATTACK, THE LADDER TRUCK SHOWING UP IS NOT GOING TO GIVE ME A HELL OF A LOT OF SATISFACTION OR RELIEF, AND

IF YOU HAVE -- >> ACTUALLY, IT WOULD, SIR.

THEY CAN PROVIDE ALL THE -- >> I UNDERSTAND, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO AN ARGUMENT, I'M JUST SAYING WE CAN'T PROVIDE THE SAME FULL AMBULANCE SERVICE THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTDOWN HEALTH DISTRICT DOES OR ANY FULL SERVICE.

NOT SUGGESTING WE DON'T DO WHAT WE CAN DO.

IF WE CAN DO IT I SAY GEE, LET'S BUY AMBULANCE AND PUT THEM IN

THE FIRE STATIONS. >> IS IT A BETTER IDEA FOR US TO PURCHASE AMBULANCES FROM MONTGOMERY COUNTY HEALTH DISTRICT THAT STAY IN THE WOODLANDS VERSUS SPENDING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON A FIRE APPARATUS -- WE COULD SAVE THOSE HOURS BY NOT GOING OUT TO 65% OF YOUR CALLS.

I THINK THERE'S A CREATIVE WAY TO LOOK AT THIS TO SAY, WHAT CAN WE DO TO PROLONG THE LIFE OF THESE MULTI-MILLION-DOLLAR LADDER TRUCKS AND TRUCKS -- FIRE TRUCKS, WHEN 65% OF THE CALLS ARE MEDICAL. I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER, CHIEF. I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO HAVE THE ANSWER BUT HOW CAN WE LOOK INTO THAT AND MAYBE EXPLORE THAT AS A WAY OF DOING OUR -- OUR FIREFIGHTERS ARE ALL EMS CERTIFIED WHICH I THINK IS INCREDIBLE, BUT HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THIS IN A NEW WAY, WITH 40% INCREASE IN COSTS OF ENGINES, I MEAN, IT'S -- DO WE START TURNING ENGINES OFF EVERY TIME WE'RE KIND OF IN A PARKING LOT OR WHATEVER TO KIND OF SAVE HOURS? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT NEW OPTIONS THAT WE CAN SAVE SOME MONEY ON THESE ENGINES, BECAUSE 40% INCREASE WHEN THEY'RE ALREADY MILLION DOLLAR ENGINES, THAT'S PRETTY HIGH.

>> CHIEF, YOU MENTIONED THAT -- JUST MAYBE THE STRATEGY AND MAYBE THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT TERM -- OF HAVING THE ENGINE AT THE CALL MADE SENSE IN THE EVENT THERE WAS ANOTHER PLACE TO HAVE

GO TO. >> YES, SIR, OFTENTIMES WE'RE CALLED FROM ONE CALL TO THE NEXT.

A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE GO ON LOWER ACUITY MEDICAL CALLS WE ARE ALWAYS LISTENING AND IF THERE'S ANOTHER CALL THAT ONCE WE'VE STABILIZED AND WE HAVE THE AMBULANCE ON THE SCENE AND THEY DON'T NEED OUR HELP ANYMORE, WE WILL RESPOND TO THAT CALL.

WE DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS. >> BUT BASED ON WHERE THE STATIONS ARE LOCATED, IS THERE A STRATEGY WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED TO BE KIND OF IN THEIR TERRITORY THAT ARE THEN, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A CERTAIN TERRITORY AND YOU'RE AT ONE END, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR THAT ENGINE TO BE AT THE STATION VERSUS, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE IS HAVING A SEIZURE, YOU KNOW? WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE -- I'M JUST CURIOUS ON THAT, I DON'T NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND THAT, IF IT --

>> ISM VERY COMFORTABLE >> I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE MODEL WE HAVE RIGHT NOW WHERE WE PROVIDE EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE, AGAIN AT LEAST ONE PARAMEDIC ON EVERY ONE OF OUR TRUCKS THAT WE CAN GET THERE AND DO EVERYTHING EXCEPT TRANSPORT AND THEN IN CASE OF PHYSICAL DISASTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE CAN TRANSPORT IN THE FIRE TRUCKS.

WE CAN PROVIDE ALL THAT SERVICE UNTIL THE AMBULANCE GETS THERE.

SO THAT ALLOWS US TO BE FLEXIBLE AND TRIAGE THE CALLS THAT WE GET AND SEND THE CLOSEST RESOURCE, BE IT OUR FIRETRUCK OR A NEIGHBORING FIRETRUCK, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH ALL EMERGENCIES. BUT IF YOU TAKE US OFF OF FIRE TRUCKS AND PUT US ON A SPECIALTY VEHICLE, THEN IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO BE THAT ALL HAZARDS RESPONSE.

>> BUT IF THERE WAS A DEDICATED TEAM TO -- LIKE THEY'RE MENTIONING LIKE AN AMBULANCE TEAM AND THEN A TRUCK TEAM,

STILL AT THE STATION -- >> CORRECT, AND THAT'S WHY WE PROPOSE THE ALS SQUAD. WE KNOW WHERE WE HAVE THE MOST CALLS AND THE MOST MEDICAL CALLS, AND THAT IS THE DOWNTOWN DISTRICT. AND SO THAT ALS SQUAD WILL ALLOW US TO KEEP OUR BIGGER TRUCKS IN SERVICE MORE OFTEN.

>> AND THEN I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE AN INCREDIBLE RESPONSE TIME.

WHAT IS THE RESPONSE TIME FOR FIRE AND THEN DO YOU KNOW THE RESPONSE TIME ON AVERAGE FOR THE MONTGOMERY HOSPITAL DISTRICT?

>> 6 MINUTES FOR CALLS. EMS IS CLOSER TO 10.

>> TEN. SO YOU GUYS ARE TYPICALLY THERE

FIRST? >> SO THERE'S ONLY -- IN THE

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THAT AMBULANCE TAKES TWO HOURS FOR THAT SAME CALL, BECAUSE THEN SERVICE, WHEN THE AMBULANCE GETS THERE THEY HAVE TO TAKE THE PATIENT TO THE HOSPITAL. THEY DO THEIR PAPERWORK AND THEN GET BACK INTO SERVICE. SO WE'RE RIGHT BACK INTO SERVICE SO YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE NINE TIMES OUT OF TEN BEFORE THE AMBULANCE -- WELL BEFORE THE BALANCE.

>> OKAY. THANK YOU.

>> CHIEF, I KNOW YOUR ISO RATING IS EXCELLENT.

YOU GUYS DO SUCH A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IS THERE ANOTHER CITY THAT YOU COULD BENCHMARK AGAINST THAT'S DOING WHAT THE BOARD IS SUGGESTING, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WOULD THAT IMPROVE THE LONGEVITY OF OUR EQUIPMENT, TO HAVE AMBULANCES THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO THE WOODLANDS, AND IF SO, IS THERE A COST SAVING ASSOCIATED? DO YOU HAVE ANY OF THAT KIND OF INFORMATION OR -- I KNOW YOU'VE

WORKED MANY PLACES AND -- >> WE CAN PUT IT TOGETHER.

BUT DIFFERENT THINGS HAVE NOT WORKED OUT.

THESAN ANTONIO HAS LEFT PICKUP TRUCKS FOR THEIR CREW TO JUMP OFF, GET IN TO GO RESPOND TO A CALL, THEY HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE IN THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS TOO, WITH RESPECT TO LONGEVITY OF VEHICLES VEHICLES, ALL OF US UNDERSTAND THAT AS CARS GET TEN, FIFTEEN YEARS OLDER, THE SAFETY STANDARDS, TECHNOLOGY HAS CHANGED, AND SO THAT'S PART AND PARCEL WITH THAT. WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO SIT THERE AND MAKE FIRE TRUCKS LAST 20 AND 30 YEARS WITHOUT HAVING SIGNIFICANT REFURBISHMENT DONE TO DO THAT.

>> WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE I MEAN TEN YEARS IS THE TIME LINE, WHETHER YOU GO TO A MILLION CALLS OR A THOUSAND CALLS, TEN

YEARS IS TEN YEARS. >> PRETTY MUCH, IT'S A GOOD STANDARD TO BE AT TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE TECHNOLOGY AND THE

SAFETY FEATURES AND WHATNOT. >> WHEN YOU LOOK AT ONE OR TWO TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY HERE, AN AMBULANCE ON SITE, JUST THINKING ABOUT WHEN OUR HOSPITA4 AMBULANCES LINED UP AT ONE POINT AND THEN THEY HAVE TO UNLOAD THESE PATIENTS AND IF WE HAD ONE OR TWO OR THREE, THEY WOULD BE SO TIED UP ALL THE TIME.

THE MODEL WE HAVE FROM A HOSPITAL STANDPOINT, WE LOVE.

WE KNOW THAT THE REASON WHY WE HAD THE FIRE FIRST IS THEY'RE SPREAD ALL OVER. THE AMBULANCES ARE WHEREVER THEY ARE. SO IF WE HAVE AN AMBULANCE JUST AT ONE OR TWO OF THE STATIONS, THE WOODLANDS IS BIG AND WOODLANDS HAS LOTS OF TRAFFIC. WE NEED TO HAVE -- BE THERE WITHIN FIVE, FOUR, SIX MINUTES, WHATEVER YOU SAY.

THAT'S THE WING WITCHING HOUR TS SO IMPORTANT TO GET EVERYONE THERE. FROM THE HOSPITAL STANDPOINT, THE MODEL IS WORKING, AND I UNDERSTAND AS FAR AS SAVING MONEY WE CAN STILL TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, BUT HAVING DEDICATED AMBULANCES PAYING FOR OVERTIME AND STAFFING AND PENSIONS AND -- I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOING TO IN THE LONG RUN SAVE US MONEY.

>> DIRECTOR NELSON, A QUESTION FOR YOU: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT WORKING WITH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, AND WE'RE KIND OF IGNORING -- CREEK SIDE PARK BUT WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT WHAT ABOUT TALKING WITH THEM ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBERS OF FACILITIES INSIDE THE WOODLANDS? YOU JUST SAID FOUR OUT OF EIGHT HAVE -- AM I RIGHT, FOUR OUT OF EIGHT STATIONS HAVE AMBULANCE

BASE? >> CORRECT.

>> YES, SO -- >> BUT AGAIN, WE COULD HAVE FIVE NEEDS WITHIN FIVE HOURS, BUT THAT ONE AMBULANCE IS UNLOADING

A PATIENT A -- >> NO, I KNOW, IT TIES UP HOURS,

SOMETIMES HOURS -- >> THEY WORK REALLY CLOSELY WITH JAMES CAMPBELL, WITH RANDY JOHNSON, WITH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT. WE'RE LIKE ONE OF THE TOP IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY, AND I WOULD JUST HATE TO JUST TAKE A MODEL LIKE THAT AND ARE WE REALLY SAVING THAT MUCH MONEY WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ONE MILLION $1,375,0E ENGINE BUT WHAT DOES THE

STAFFING COST ON TOP OF THAT? >> DO WE PAY FOR THE AMBULANCE?

>> NO, THAT'S MONTH MONTGOMERY Y HOSPITAL DISTRICT --

>> SO WE DON'T PAY FOR IT. I'M JUST ASKING WHAT'S THE PROCESS THEN, TO GET ANOTHER BAY? I'VE ALWAYS BEEN A LITTLE MYSTIFIED HOW THEY DECIDE WHERE

TO PUT THEIR AMBULANCES. >> THEY DO WHAT WE DO.

THEY ASSESS EVERY YEAR ABOUT WHERE THE RESPONSES ARE, IF THEY NEED TO ADD ANOTHER UNIT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S TAKEN CARE OF.

>> SO YOU HAVE ONE AMBULANCE AT CENTRAL?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> SO I GUESS WHAT I'M REALLY ASKING, DO WE NEED ANOTHER AMBULANCE BAY AT CENTRAL? AND HOW DO YOU APPROACH THEM TO ASK THEM THE QUESTION?

>> SO I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE IN THEIR DECISIONMAKING PROCESS.

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HOWEVER THEY HAVE TO MEET THEIR FUNDING NEEDS AND THEIR BUDGET ALLOWS THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS. COUNTY.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT, DR. SHELLY.

THEY'RE LIMITED OBVIOUSLY ON THEIR BUDGET AND FINANCES.

WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A MODEL FOR ENHANCED SERVICES WITH VARIOUS ENTITIES. YOU KNOW, PERHAPS THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK AT, OBVIOUSLY THAT ADDITIONAL WOULD COST US MONEY, ONE, IF IT'S NEEDED.

BUT TWO, THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS COME UP ABOUT TRYING TO SAVE MONEY BY REDUCING HOW FREQUENTLY WE PURCHASE A NEW FIRE ENGINE BUT WHAT I'M HEARING -- OR YOU JUST AID IS, NO MATTER WHAT, EVERY TEN YEARS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO THIS, EVEN IF IT HAS SLIGHTLY FEWER ENGINE HOURS, IS THAT RIGHT?

>> THAT'S THE PRACTICE, YES, SIR, ABSOLUTELY.

>> OKAY. DO THOSE ENGINES THAT TYPICALLY COME WITH WARRANTIES, LIKE REGULAR CARS?

>> THEY DO. AND WE USE THAT QUITE FREQUENTLY THROUGH THE WARRANTY PERIOD BUT IT'S A COUPLE YEARS.

SO WE'RE TALKING -- AND WE'RE GOING TO USE THESE FIRE TRUCKS -- FRONTLINE 10 BUT WE'RE KEEPING THEM FOR 15 AND EVEN 20 YEARS WITH SOME OF THE FIRE TRUCKS.

THEY'RE WELL USED BY THE TIME THAT WE SELL THEM OFF.

>> YEAH, WHICH MAKES SENSE, AND YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL BEING MINDFUL OF BEING FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION.

BUT WE'VE ALREADY COMMITTED TO THIS FIRE ENGINE, THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE HERE THIS MORNING AND NEITHER IS -- BUT I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF THE FUTURE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE NEXT BUDGET TO LOOK AT ALL OF THESE POTENTIAL IDEAS.

>> SO GET BACK TO THE RELATIONSHIP.

YOU SAID YOU TRUST MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT TO DO

WHAT THEY DO. >> YES, MA'AM.

>> WELL, I GUESS WE ALL DO. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHAT'S THE PROCESS FOR YOU TO -- LIKE THE WAY THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE HERE, THEY'RE HERE, THEY'RE TELLING US THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED, THIS IS WHAT WE NEED AND WE RESPOND.

THIS IS WHAT WE CAN AFFORD, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN AFFORD.

IS THAT WHAT YOU DO CAN THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT? DO YOU PETITION THEM? DO THEY RESPOND TO YOUR PETITIONS?

HOW DOES IT WORK? >> WE HAVE ON GOING DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED, WHAT WE NEED WITH RESPECT TO RESPONSES. WE'RE NOT SEEING A LACK OF AMBULANCE RESPONSE WITHIN THE WOODLANDS.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE BENEFIT IN THE WOODLANDS IS THAT WE HAVE FOUR HOSPITALS IN THE WOODLANDS.

THAT'S WHERE ALL THE AMBULANCES GO TO, AND SO WHEN THEY'RE COMING OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, IT'S LIKE A WHOLE ANOTHER SET OF AMBULANCES THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO US, BECAUSE IF A CALL COMES UP IN THE WOODLANDS AND AN AMBULANCE FROM EAST COUNTY IS CLEARING THE HOSPITAL, THEY'RE COMING TOE THAT TO THAT.

SO WE BENEFIT FROM HAVING ALL THE HOSPITALS HERE.

>> SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE SATISFIED?

>> YES, MA'AM. >> OKAY, WELL, IF HE'S SATISFIE.

>> EXCEPT FOR THE TWO ALS EMPLOYEES THAT YOU -- IT WAS

EMPLOYEES? >> SO THE ALS SQUAD AGAIN WOULD ALLOW US TO CONTINUE TO -- DECREASE OUR RESPONSE TIMES AND TAKE AWAY SOME OF THAT USAGE ON OUR HEAVIER APPARATUS, YES,

MA'AM, ABSOLUTELY. >> I'M GOING TO USE THAT QUOTE, SHELLY. IF HE'S SATISFIED, THEN WE'RE FINE.

I KNOW ANOTHER AGENDA ITEM, ANOTHER DEPARTMENT WILL COME UP THERE, SEAN MCGOWAN IS SATISFIED, WE'RE GOOD.

>> WELL, IS HE? I DON'T KNOW, JOHN MCGOWAN HAS

A LOT ON HIS TO DO LIST. >> LOOK --

>> I JUST HEARD THE CHIEF SAY THAT HE'S SATISFIED SO --

>> I'M LOOKING FOR -- MY CONCERN IS -- WE HAVE AN INCREDIBLE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WE'VE GIVEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ASSETS TO THEM OVER THE YEARS, A NEW FIRE STATION THAT IS REMARKABLE.

I THINK GROWING THE MODEL OF WORKING WITH SHANENDOAH, SO WE CAN LOOK AT DOING ANOTHER FIRE STATION ACROSS THE FREEWAY -- I KNOW THEY'RE INTERESTED IN THAT, IT'S ONE OF MY BUDGET INITIATIVES TO TALK ABOUT THAT, TO HELP DIVERSIFY THE FUNDING AND BE ABLE TO MEET OUR DEPARTMENT NEEDS.

BUT IT'S A HUGE -- THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS A HUGE LINE ITEM IN OUR BUDGET. WHAT PERCENT, MONIQUE? GUESSTIMATE? OKAY, I COULDN'T FIND IT -- BUT I MEAN, IT'S A BIG CHUNK, AND

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BUT LOOKING AT -- THE TOWNSHIP'S TAX RATE, IF YOU OWN A 500,000-DOLLAR HOME IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY IS 8 PERCENT OF YOUR TAX BILL, $831. MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT ALSO 8%, A LITTLE BIT LOWER AT $750.

SO I MEAN, THEY'RE ALSO A TAXING AUTHORITY THAT HAS A LOT OF TAXES -- NOW IT'S A BIG COUNTY BUT WE'RE A VERY BIG PART OF THE COUNTY, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT. SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER PARTNER WITH THEM. AND I THINK PARTNERING WITH THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT, WHEN 65% OF YOUR CALLS ARE MEDICAL, HOW WE CAN DO BETTER PARTNERSHIPS TO PUT THEM IN MORE STATIONS, IN MORE AREAS, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE AMBULANCE BUSINESS, BUT WE HAVE INCREDIBLE FIREMEN THAT ARE EMT-CERTIFIED AND CAN PROVIDE BACKUP.

BUT HOW CONNECT -- IT HELPS PROLONG OUR TRUCKS.

THAT'S MY WHOLE THING. IT'S A HUGE COST THAT WE HAVE, TO HAVE THEM ROLLING ON EVERY SINGLE CALL THAT COMES IN, A MASSIVE FIRETRUCK -- NOW, IF YOU HAVE A WRECK, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I THINK THAT'S DIFFERENT. BUT SOMEONE THAT'S HAVING A CARDIAC ARREST, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO HAVE AN ENGINE TRUCK AND ALL THAT GO TO THAT WITH ALL THE SUPPORT STAFF AND ALL THAT.

I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER.

BUT MAYBE LOOKING AT A FUTURE MEETING OF HAVING -- COMMISSIONING A STUDY TO WORK WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT ON HOW WE CAN BETTER LOWER RESPONSE TIMES SO THEY CAN GET DOWN TO THE WOODLANDS FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONSE TIME WOULD BE I THINK ADVANTAGEOUS, SAVE LIVES.

BUT ALSO LOOK AT BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYER MONEY.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA, BECAUSE I THINK HAVING MORE OF THOSE MONTGOMERY COUNTY HOSPITAL DISTRICT AMBULANCES IN THE WOODLANDS WOULD BE A BETTER THING.

SO -- >> MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THEM COME IN AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM TO TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> YEAH, JUST LOOKING AT IT, IT'S A COST THING, SO IT'S BUDGET TIME, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT COSTS SO I THINK IT'S

WORTHY LOOKING INTO. >> GOOD DISCUSSION, THANK YOU.

>> OH, YES, MA'AM,. >> THANKS, CHIEF.

>> THANKS, CHIEF. >> AND MONIQUE WAS CHECKING -- 20% OF THE TOWNSHIP. SO IF WE WANT TO RAISE THAT

PERCENTAGE, WE CERTAINLY CAN. >> I BET YOU CAN.

>> WE'RE HERE. >> BUT CHIEF, WE KNOW YOU'RE

SATISFIED WITH THAT. >> AGAIN 100% SATISFACTION THE LAST THREE SURVEYS, JUST WANT TO PUT THAT IN THERE.

>>

IT. >> QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR CAPITAL ITEMS? ANYTHING ELSE?

>> THESE ARE THE NEW CAPITAL PROJECTS, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY

QUESTIONS -- >> STARLINK, ELON IS A TRILLION AIR, HE'S STILL CHARGING US LIKE CRAZY, $82,000.

WOW. >> SO IF YOU KNOW HIM -- BUT HE'S AT GRIMES COUNTY SO WE CAN GO SEE HIM SOMETIME SOON.

>> HOW MANY OF THE STARLINK MINI DISHES IS THAT?

>> SO WE HAVE DISHES AT OUR STATIONS.

IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE THAT CAN BE ACTIVATED IN AN EMERGENCY. BUT THEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THEM ON FRONTLINE AND RESERVE APPARATUS TO UTILIZE AS OUR TERTIARY MEANS TO STAY CONNECTED TO THE INTERNET.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO -- IS IT 82,000 WILL GET YOU TEN, DOES IT

GET YOU FOUR -- >> 31.

>> AND THEN IS THERE ANY SORT OF ONGOING EXPENSE OR LIKE --

>> THERE'S A SMALL FEE THAT'S IN THERE.

BUT IT'S NOT OUTRAGEOUS. >>

>> NO, I WAS JUST CURIOUS. >> I MEAN, IS THERE A NEED FOR STARLINK ON -- 31 ON EVERY SINGLE APPARATUS?

>> TO HAVE THE ABILITY -- PAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TRUCKS WILL PUT IN SERVICE, WHEN WE HAVE EMERGENCIES, WE'LL ACTIVATE EXTRA TRUCKS. AND SO WE'LL PUT MORE TRUCKS INTO SERVICE. WE CAN GO UPWARDS OF DOUBLING THE NUMBER OF APPARATUS THAT WE HAVE.

AND SO IT'S ALSO COMMAND TRUCKS AS WELL.

>> DEFINITELY NEED [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> CERTAINLY. WE HAVE A LOT OF VISITORS FROM EAST SHORE COMING TO THE CENTRAL FIRE STATION.

>> OTHER CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS THEN THAT YOU'RE HAVING

CURRENTLY? >> NO, BUT THOSE ARE ADDRESSED THROUGH HAVING NOT ONE BUT TWO SEPARATE CARDS.

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SO WE HAVE CONNECTIVITY PROBLEMS, AS EVERYONE HAS TALKED ABOUT. WE ADDRESS THAT WITH DOUBLING UP ON OUR MODEMS AND THEN THE STARLINK IS WHEN EVERYTHING GOES

AWAY. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE

PSA -- WHAT DOES THAT STAND FOR? >> PUBLIC SAFETY ANSWERING POINT. THAT'S THE 911, SO THE SHERIFFS WHERE THE 911 CALL TAKERS LIVE, THAT'S THE PRIMARY PSAP AND THEN EMS AND FIRE DISPATCHES ARE SECONDARY PSAPS.

>> SO 90% ARE FUNDED RIGHT NOW BY GRANTS.

AND ONGOING DO YOU THINK WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE GRANTS --

>> I HOPE SO. SO IF CHAIRMAN BAILEY NEEDS ANOTHER TASK IN HIS SOON TO BE NEW GIG, SO WE HAVE MONTGOMERY COUNTY 911 SERVICES. THEY COLLECT THAT 911 FEE YOU SEE ON YOUR CELLPHONE BILL, BUT AS THE HANDLINES CONTINUE TO GO AWAY, THEY'RE SEEING THEIR DOLLARS DECREASE, THE ABILITY THAT MONTGOMERY COUNTY 911 HAS TO FUND AND TRANSFER THAT FUNDING TO US. WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT THE LEGISLATURE WILL SEE FIT TO INCREASE JUST SLIGHTLY YOUR 911

FEE ON YOUR CELLPHONE BILL. >> THE STAR LINK, I'M CONFUSED, HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW IT WORKS. WE HAVE A RADIO SYSTEM, RADIO TOWERS, KEEPING UP WITH TRUCKS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING RIGHT

NOW. >> CORRECT, YES, SIR.

>> AND WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

WHY DO WE NEED 31 STARLINKS TO COME -- THE RADIO SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING, LIKE WHAT'S THE PROBLEM?

>> SO WE DO A LOT WITH OUR MOBILE DATA COMPUTERS ON THE TRUCKS, BUT THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH THE BOARD'S DIRECTIVE POST BARREL TO IMPROVE COMMUNICATION AND BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH THE LOSS OF ALL COMMUNICATION. I BELIEVE THAT --

>>

>> THIS ALLOWS US IN EMERGENCY SPOTS TO BE --

>> JUST LIKE MOBILE INTERNET. MOBILE WI-FI.

>> YEAH, YEAH, BUT -- AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, YOUR RADIOS ARE

STILL WORKING, CORRECT? >> OUR RADIOS WORK.

OUR COMPUTERS THAT GIVE US THE MAPS WHERE WE NEED TO GO AND -- 911 WORKS BUT THEN WE ARE BACK TO -- AND WE HAVE DONE IT AND CAN DO IT -- WE'RE BACK TO WRITING THINGS DOWN ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND THEN TRYING TO LOOK UP STUFF ON MAP BOOKS THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE, WHERE THEY GO. SO ANOTHER WAY TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO CONTINUE TO DO THE BUSINESS, TO MAKE THE

RESPONSES. >> WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, WHENEVER LAST YEAR'S FLOOD HAPPENED AS WELL, UP IN THE HILL COUNTRY AND ALSO -- EVERY TIME THERE'S A MASSIVE FLOOD AND LOSS OF LIFE, YOU RUN INTO THE SITUATION OF COMMUNICATION IS GONE AND COMMUNICATION IS DOWN. SO IT'S A BACKUP SYSTEM AND IT'S FOR DATA AND WE NEED DATA. AND THE MORE THAT -- WE DIDN'T MENTION THIS EARLIER, BUT THE MORE THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE SPEAKING DIFFERENT LANGUAGES IN THE AREA, IT'S ESSENTIAL TO BE ABLE TO USE THOSE TRANSLATORS TOO.

THERE ARE TRANSLATING PROGRAMS THAT ARE VERY, VERY USEFUL WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY -- YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO TELL YOU AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO COME THROUGH EASILY.

IT'S A HEAVY DATA DRIVEN OPERATION.

SO ALL OF THAT IS I THINK SOMETHING FOR ME THAT SAYS THAT BACKUP WITH STARLINK IS ESSENTIAL FOR CRISIS.

>> AND AGAIN THIS IS A TERTIARY SYSTEM.

AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO MEET WITH THE WHAT THE BOARD'S DIRECTIVES WERE POST-PERIL.

>> PERSONALLY, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTS THAT HAVE THESE ONLY, NO WAY -- THEY DON'T HAVE A RADIO SYSTEM, THEY DON'T HAVE A 911 SYSTEM BUT IN THE WOODLANDS WHEN IT GOES DOWN, YOU'RE IN TROUBLE, THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO PUT CELL TOWERS IN AND BACKUPS LIKE THAT, BECAUSE RESIDENTS CAN'T EVEN

CALL 911 BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW -- >> NO, YOU'RE RIGHT.

THAT'S ESSENTIAL. THAT'S PRIMARY.

THAT'S NOT TERTIARY, THAT'S PRIMARY.

>> MAJOR ISSUES. SO THAT'S WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. BUT YOU GUYS [INDISCERNIBLE] --

>> CHAIRMAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GETTING AT, BUT I DO AGREE -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE IN LIFE AND DEATH.

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AND THAT GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, THAT'S --

>> IT'S ALSO HOW OUR UNITS ARE TRACKED.

SO WHEN IT GOES DOWN, GACH CAN'T SEE DISPATCH CAN'T SEE WHERE OUR UNITS ARE SO WE WILL HAVE MAYBE NO UNITS GOING TO ONE CALL AND THREE UNITS GOING TO ANOTHER CALL, WE SAW THAT IN A COUPLE OF EMERGENCIES.

SO THIS IS JUST A VALUE-ADD IN NATURAL DISASTERS.

>> YEAH, I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION AND DIGGING INTO IT.

WE DID HAVE THE EXPERIENCE INTO THE KNOT NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE EVERYTHING WAS DOWN IN THE AREA AND I DO APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR

THOSE AS WELL. >> ALL RIGHT, STARLINK.

>> I DON'T HAVE ANY -- I'VE CONSIDERED IT BUT DOES IT HAVE ANY ISSUES WHEN THERE'S LIKE BAD WEATHER?

>> THERE ARE SIMILAR TO DIRECTV, BUT NOT NEAR -- THE CONSTELLATION THAT HAS BEEN PUT UP ALLOWS FOR EFFECTIVE

COVERAGE. >> IF WE HAVE A MASSIVE STORM IT WON'T BE LIKE STARLINK IS DOWN --

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT -- AND MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT WE'RE NOT SEEING THE SAME TYPE OF DEGRADATION AS YOU SEE WITH LIKE DIRECTV WITH ONE

SATELLITE. >> AND GOING BACK TO THE ONGOING EXPENSE OF IT, IS IT DATA USE DRIVEN?

>> SO YES. >> SO IF WE'RE WATCHING YOUTUBE ALL DAY, THAT WOULD BE A BAD THING.

>> THAT WOULD BE A BAD THING. >> SO SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS, FYI, ONE OF MY BUDGET INITIATIVES IS IF WE CAN SPEND $82,000 ON STARLINK, I THINK WE CAN AFFORD BILINGUAL PAY AND CERTIFICATION PAY FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS, WHO ARE OUT THERE SAVING THE LIVES SO I'M GOING TO THE MAT ON THAT ONE TOO.

SO $82,000 JUST WE'RE GOING TO COMPARE COSTS --

>> WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR OFFICE, I SAID IT LAST YEAR AND IT'S GOTTEN EVEN BETTER, SO WE DON'T PAY ANY KIND OF BILINGUAL PAY IN OUR OFFICE. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE HOSPITALS DO. THEY DO NOT, OKAY.

AND THEY'RE FACED WITH THIS NON- STOP, NON- STOP, ALL DAY LONG.

YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT LANGUAGE IS GOING TO WALK IN THE DOOR AT ALL. AND WE HAVE SYSTEMS WHERE WE JUST PRESS THE BUTTON AND WE CONNECT WITH A TRANSLATOR.

AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY GOOD. SO I DON'T SEE THE POINT.

BECAUSE YOU MAY BE FLUENT IN SPANISH BUT THE PERSON YOU'RE TAKING CARE EVER IS CHINESE OR VIETNAMESE OR WHO KNOWS WHAT.

IT'S JUST -- IT'S A ONE TRICK PONY AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THE

RIGHT SOLUTION. >> AND CHIEF, DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT THERE WAS TRANSLATION SERVICES IN THE STARLINK?

>> I MEAN, I THINK DIRECTOR SECK GIBBS SECK SEC

GIBB WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT. >> CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT. I KNOW THAT WAS A BIG ISSUE THAT THE CHAIRMAN BRINGS UP, TRANSLATION.

SO WHAT SOURCE ARE YOU USING? >> WHICH DON'T HAVE ONE PARTICULAR PRODUCT THAT WE USE. WE HAVE LANGUAGE LINE AT OUR FIRE DISPATCH, THEY'RE ABLE TO CONNECT UP TO TRANSLATORS ON THE

911 CALLS. >> YEAH, OUR FIREFIGHTERS THEY

ALL CARRY SOME SORT OF -- >> THEY HAVE THEIR PHONES, YES,

SIR. >> THEIR PHONE OR --

>> WE HAVE TRUCKS THAT HAVE TABLETS.

>> AND THOSE TABLETS SHOULD HAVE SOME APP -- I MEAN FROM A TECHNOLOGY STANDPOINT. I'M PRETTY SURE I COULD TALK SOME LANGUAGE INTO AI AND IT WOULD TRANSCRIBE IT WITHIN --

PRETTY QUICKLY. >> WE HAVEN'T FOUND A GREAT ONE

YET. >> I THINK WE SHOULD BE LOOKING HARD AT THAT. ONLY SAYING BECAUSE IT IS EVERYWHERE. SO THAT'S LIKE --

>> IF WE HAVEN'T FOUND IT, WE'RE NOT LOOKING.

>> IT'S LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

MAYBE WE COULD WORK WITH THE HOSPITALS --

>> BUT WE DID THE LANGUAGE LINE ALL THE TIME BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, ADAM. TRANSLATION SERVICES I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING MORE SPANISH, BUT WE'RE SEEING SO MANY DIFFERENT ENTITIES COMING INTO THE HOSPITAL SPEAKING DIFFERENT LANGUAGES. SO IF WE HAVE JUST ONE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAVE TRANSLATOR FOR, WE'RE REALLY NOT DOING OUR

COMMUNITY SERVICE. >> ESPECIALLY WITH TECHNOLOGY -- I CAN TAKE OUT MY PHONE AND TAKE A PICTURE OF CHINESE, BECAUSE I HAD DO IT THE OTHER DAY, THERE IT IS, AND YOU CAN TALK INTO IT IN ANOTHER LANGUAGE AND IT WILL -- I MEAN, SIMPLE, SIMPLE STUFF LIKE MY 13-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER IS USING IT.

SO WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT. >> YES, SIR.

>> IF WE CAN'T FIND IT, LIKE I SAY WE'RE NOT LOOKING.

AND THAT CAN BE CONCERNING. >> ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CHIEF? IF NOT, MOVE ON TO I-T. SPEAKING OF BILINGUAL APPS.

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WILLIAM? >> THANK YOU, CHIEF.

>> THANK YOU. >> WANT TO TAKE IT?

>> SO AS FAR AS BILINGUAL APPS, WE HAVE PUT GOOGLE TRANSLATE ON THE APPARATUS FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S EFFECTIVE OR NOT WE HAVEN'T

HEARD ANY FEEDBACK YET SO -- >> YOU'RE SAYING ON THE

DEPARTMENT PHONES? >> EVERY APPARATUS HAS AN IPHONE, AND THEY DID REQUEST EARLIER THIS YEAR TO HAVE GOOGLE TRANSLATE INSTALLED AND WE DID PUT THAT ON THERE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE PUT THAT IN PRACTICE OR HOW EFFECTIVE IT HAS

BEEN, IF AT ALL. >> OKAY.

>> THAT SOUNDS LIKE A TRAINING OPPORTUNITY TO ME OR --

>> I'VE USED IT BEFORE AND IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A PATIENT THAT IS, IN MY OPINION -- OR IDEA, IF A PATIENT IS MOANING I DON'T KNOW HOW EFFECTIVE THAT'S GOING TO BE

SO -- >> YOUR BEDSIDE MANNER.

>> THERE'S A REASON WHY I DID NOT MAKE IT TO MED SCHOOL.

>> ANY QUESTIONS RIGHT OFF THE TOP?

>> YEAH, LET'S DIG IN. WHAT ARE WE -- TELL US MORE.

>> THERE'S NOT DETAILED PAGES WITH THIS, BECAUSE BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ARE THE SPECIFIC ASSETS THAT ARE BEING REQUESTED. MOST OF THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH THE CAPITAL REPLACEMENT RESERVE, SO THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY IS DEFINITELY REPLACEMENT CAPITAL. BUT HERE ARE THE TWO ITEMS THAT ARE NEW, CONSIDERED NEW UNFUNDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND I'M SURE WILLIAM WILL BE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW ON THOSE.

>> SO AS SHE SAID, THE VAST MAJORITY ARE REPLACEMENT ITEMS. SO IF WESTERLY LAST YEARS AGO THE WE RECALL LAST YEAR THE REQUEST WAS TO ADD STARLINK TO PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR PRIMARY FACILITIES AND WE KIND OF DID IT PIECEMEAL BUT WHAT WE DIDN'T PUT IN PLACE LAST YEAR DUE TO FUNDING ISSUES WAS AN ADDITIONAL FIREWALL. SO IN THE EVENT WE LOSE ALL CONNECTIVITY, THEY CAN GET OUT. BUT NOTHING IS COMING BACK IN TO EACH INDIVIDUAL STATION, AND THERE'S A LITTLE CYBERSECURITY ISSUE THERE TOO. SO THIS YEAR, WE'RE REQUESTING THE FUNDING TO BASICALLY TIE THAT ALL UP.

WE'VE SUBMITTED A GRANT REQUEST FOR THE 27-YEAR.

IF IT GETS APPROVED, THEN THE MATCH IS I BELIEVE 30% ON OUR SIDE AND THE FED WOULD APPROVE THE OTHER 70% -- OR FUND THE

70%. >> THE WI-FI IN TREE HOUSES, STARLINK, INTERNET POOLS, IS THAT FOR RESIDENTS WHO VISIT

THOSE OR -- >> NO, THAT'S FOR OPERATIONAL USE. SO FOR THE TREE HOUSE, SINCE THEY'RE IN THE STICKS, NOT A LOT OF GOOD WI-FI ACCESS THERE AND WE HAVE WI-FI AT THEIR MAIN OFFICE WHERE ALL THE REGISTRATION IS. BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING -- THEY'VE EITHER STARTED IT OR THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD ANOTHER ADDITIONAL BUILDING IN THERE FOR USAGE.

>> DID WE OFFER FREE WI-FI FOR RESIDENTS AT POOLS AND REC

CENTERS. >> WE DON'T AND THAT'S PART OF THIS AS WELL BUT IN GENERAL THE COVERAGE TO AND THE CAPITAL OUTY TO OFFER THAT WAS REALLY QUITE HIGH AND NOT ALWAYS NECESSARY.

>> JUST BAUD BECAUSE OF A BAND WIDTH ISSUE?

>> SO LEADING TOWARDS THE BAND WIDTH ISSUE AT SOME OF THE POOLS, WE HAVE CELLULAR CONNECTIVITY MODEMS AT MOST OF THE POOLS AND A FEW WE HAVE FIBER.

THERE ARE A HANDFUL OF POOLS WHERE THE CELL SIGNAL IS NOT GOOD AND RUNNING FIBER OUT THERE IS JUST NOT COST-EFFECTIVE AT ALL. SO OUR PROPOSAL IS TO ADD STARLINK THERE. NOT JUST FOR THE REGULAR POS ISSUES BUT THEY HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS THERE, AND OF COURSE SECURITY CAMERAS AND ACTUALLY VIEWING IT TAKES A LOT OF BAND WIDTH, SO WE BELIEVE THAT STARLINK WOULD BE THE MOST

COST-EFFECTIVE. >> AND WOULD LIFEGUARDS -- HEAVEN FOR GRID SOMEONE IS DROWNING AND THEY DON'T HAVE CELL SERVICE, THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY TERRIBLE SITUATION.

>> YEAH, I MEAN, THAT WOULD -- THEY DO HAVE SERVICE AND THERE ARE EMERGENCY LINES THERE AS WELL.

BUT IN ADDITION AT & T AND ALL THE OTHER CARRIERS.

>> REPORTER: IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING RID ARE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING RID OF THEIR --

>> THEY'RE ABOUT TO HAVE BETTER CELL COVERAGE.

>> HOPE SO. >> HOPE SO.

>> THAT'S THURSDAY, UP TO YOU GUYS.

>> ARE THERE ANY COMMUNITY WIDE STARLINK OPPORTUNITIES THAT GO ON OUT THERE? I MEAN LIKE WHERE YOU HAVE

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>> UM -- >> ACTUALLY, I HEAR THE STORIES ABOUT HOW ELON MUSK MOVES HIS SATELLITES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN

GAZA STRIP HAS CELL SERVICE. >> USUALLY WHEN HE DOES THAT, HE'S DEPLOYING PHYSICAL UNITS AND THEY GET DISTRIBUTED THROUGH WHATEVER NGO, BUT AS FAR AS ESTABLISHING SOMETHING HERE, WE DID LOOK INTO IT. SAY YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF WE DECIDE A POP-UP CITY IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE THAT'S QUITE SIGNIFICANT, THAT WAS INTO THE MILLIONS.

>> I WANT TO LOOK INTO THAT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY OF DOING

THAT BUT -- >> I'M NOT THE TECH GUY.

>> IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO. DESKTOPS, LAPTOPS ARE JUST

REPLACEMENTS? >> THOSE ARE REPLACEMENTS.

WE REPLACE DESKTOPS AND LAPTOPS EVERY FOUR YEARS, PHYSICAL

SERVERS EVERY FIVE YEARS. >> ARE WE LOOKING FOR ANY INVESTMENT IN AI, FOR THE TOWNSHIP TO --

>> THAT'S ANOTHER PRESENTATION, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE AI IN PLACE RIGHT NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR -- SINCE LAST YEAR.

WE'RE STILL IN TESTING AS FAR AS WHAT OTHER APPLICATIONS AND USAGE BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S MORE ORGANIC

USAGE. >> DO YOU GUYS USE IT INTERNALLY OR A THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR TO LOOK AT THE SYSTEMS AND SAY, OH, HERE WE COULD BUILD SOME AI MACHINE TO SPEED UP FINANCE OR BE MORE EFFICIENT ON PARK -- YOU KNOW, ATTENDANCE, LIKE I MEAN,

IS ANY OF THAT STUFF -- >> THERE'S PLENTY OF USE CASES OUT THERE. I'M A MEMBER OF PLENTY OF AI COALITIONS. YOU COULD BRING IN A CONSULTANT.

THOSE USUALLY COST IN THE SIX FIGURES AND THEN YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO FUND WHATEVER THEY SUGGEST AS WELL SO -- WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANS IN PLACE THAT I'LL BE PRESENTING LATER TODAY.

>> WE'RE DOING IT WITH -- IN ONE OF MY COMPANIES SPECIFICALLY AND IT'S NOT SIX FIGURES BUT -- THANKFULLY.

BUT I THINK HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE -- PEOPLE TAKE ADVANTAGE OBVIOUSLY. OBVIOUSLY PUT AN RFP OUT.

BECAUSE WE THINK IN GOVERNMENT WE DON'T USUALLY THINK OF EFFICIENCY, RIGHT. SO I THINK WITH AI --

>> USUALLY IN GOVERNMENT THERE'S USUALLY THE AN TIT CALL PART OF EFFICIENCY BUT A LOT OF THAT IS DUE TO THE SYSTEMS AVAILABLE.

WE CAN A LOT OF WALLS THAT BECOME VERY DIFFICULT TOLL MOVE

FORWARD. >> OKAY.

>> YOU'RE GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL AS TO WHERE WE COULD USE

THEM IN GOVERNMENT -- >> YES, MA'AM.

>> GREAT. >> USUALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT THERE'S A GENERIC THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO AND THEN WHEN IT GETS MORE EXPENSIVE IS WHEN THEY START LOOKING INTO SUPPLY CHAIN AND THE ACTUAL BUSINESS PROCESSES AND ANALYZING EXACTLY HOW AI CAN HELP IN THAT.

I MEAN, WE CAN OBVIOUSLY SAY THAT, YES, YOU CAN LOOK AT FINANCIAL STUFF AND MAKE THINGS SMOOTHER WITH AI BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE JOHNNY DOES THIS ROLE, THIS IS WHAT WE CAN ASUBSEQUENTSUBSEQUENT AGENTIFY OR SPEED UP.

>> BEING ON THE COMMUNICATIONS COMMITTEE, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE 2,000 VIDEOS IN A FEW HOURS WITH THE RIGHT TECHNOLOGY THAT MAYBE CREATES MORE INFORMATION THAT GOES OUT TO THE THAT. WE ONLY HAVE A SMALL TEAM, WEAPON DON'T WANT TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE TO DO THINGS BUT WE CAN CREATE STUFF AT SCALE WITHOUT MORE EXPENSE, YOU KNOW JUST STUFF LIKE THAT. WHETHER IT'S TRAINING, STAFF OR HAVING THE RIGHT SOFTWARE, HAVING THE RIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF IT. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY OF JUST THINGS THAT I KNOW THAT WE ACTUALLY DO EVERY DAY IN ONE OF MY COMPANIES, SO JUST CURIOUS TO EXPLORE THAT.

>> AND THE DESK PHONES, HAVE WE I GUESS MAINTAINED THE SAME LEVEL OF INVENTORY FOR HARD DESK PHONES OR -- ARE THEY INP PHONES AND THE TREND MOVING TOWARDS NOT A NEED FOR THE ACTUAL DESK PHONE BUT THE PHONE ACTUALLY BEING EMBEDDED WITHIN THE COMPUTER? SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE THE OPTION FOR BOTH.

WE DO HAVE A SOFT PHONE WEBEX CALLING, THAT'S OUR PHONE SYSTEM

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WE HAVE TO HAVE THE -- A HARD SET PHONE WHILE COMMON SPACE -- EVERY STAFF MEMBER HAS THE OPTION TO HAVE THE SOFT PHONE.

IT ACTUALLY IS ON THEIR DECK TOP OR LAPTOP.

IT IS ON OUR IPHONES, WHETHER OR NOT THEY CHOOSE TO USE THE SOFT PHONE. WE'VE SEEN THE ADOPTION FOR THAT IS NOT REALLY GOOD AT ALL. FOLKS JUST LIKE TO PICK UP --

>> THEY HAVE THE OPTION, RIGHT? >> THEY HAVE THE OPTION.

WITH THE SOFT PHONE THEY HAVE THE OPTION IT PUT ON THE HEADSET BUT IT'S PROBABLY IN THE SINGLE INDIGENOUS THE ADOPTION.

>> AND AS FAR AS INTERACTION WITH RESIDENTS, I KNOW THE TREND IS MOVING AWAY FROM PEOPLE NOT ACTUALLY LIKING TO CALL ANYMORE, THEY JUST PREFER TO TEXT. IS THAT -- I SHOULD KNOW THIS BUT IS THAT CAPABILITY FOR RESIDENTS WHO INTERACT WITH STAFF, YOU KNOW VIA TEXT, LIKE CAN YOU TEXT THE TOWNSHIP?

DO WE -- >> I'M HESITANT TO SAY THAT IN PUBLIC BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET A BUNCH OF TEXTS TO

INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE -- >> TO THE MAIN LINE, NOT SOMEONE

APERSONAL -- >> THE SYSTEM HAS THAT CAPABILITY. WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE TRAINED AND STAFFED FOR THAT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.

FOR SECK STUFF, YOU MAY LOOK AT MORE OF A CHATBOT.

I DON'T KNOW IF OUR COMMUNITY WOULD ENGAGE IT THAT WAY, BUT

THE CAPABILITY IS THERE. >> WHAT IS THE RESPONSE? I GET FORCED TO CONSIDER CHAT BOTS SEVERAL TIMES A DAY, RIGHT.

AND I ALWAYS SAY NO. NO, NO, NO, NO.

>>

>> THERE'S NO WAY. SO I MEAN, IT ACTUALLY CAN RAISE MY BLOOD PRESSURE ABOUT 20 POINTS, JUST SOMEBODY SUGGESTING IT. BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING I'M OLD AND TO YOUR POINT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE YOUNG, WHO SEEM TO HAVE NO TROUBLE. MY QUESTION IS WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY ENGAGE WITH THOSE CHAT BOTS? IS IT RISING? IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S

SUCCESSFUL? >> I DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF DATA BUT LIKE YOU, I CAN'T STAND KHAT BOTS CHAT BOTS BECAUSE YOU GET STUCK IN A LOOP.

YOU ANSWER THE SAME QUESTIONS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THEN WHEN YOU FINALLY REACH A PERSON -- I HAVE LEARNED IF YOU START CUSS AGRICULTURE THE CUSSY USUALLY SEND YOU TO A PERSON BUT

THAT'S JUST ME. >> WE'RE TRYING TO ELEVATE OUR

SOCIETY, NOT DISINTEGRATE. >> THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY -- IN YOUR TECHNOLOGY AND AI WHERE YOU COULD CALL AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW. I MEAN, I HAVE THAT.

YOU WOULD THINK YOU WERE TALKING TO ME.

>> IT'S GOTTEN BETTER. >> IT'S MY VOICE, IT CAN GUIDE YOU THROUGH AN ENTIRE 45-MINUTE CONVERSATION.

>> IF I GIVE YOU A 5 STAR RATING AFTERWARDS --

>> I'M MORE OF TALKING ABOUT ACTUALLY TEXTING A PERSON, BECAUSE THERE ARE COMPANIES NOW THAT YOU CAN TEXT THE MAIN NUMBER AND YOU KNOW THAT RECEPTIONIST IS ACTUALLY TEXTING

YOU BACK, RATHER THAN -- >> USUALLY WHEN YOU'RE TEXTING A PERSON, THAT DOES GO INTO THAT AUTOMATED STUFF A LOT OF TIMES SO -- I MEAN, EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, IT'S BEEN THE PRACTICE OF THE BOARD AND OTHER CHAIRMENS TO ALWAYS HAVE A LIVE

PERSON ANSWERING THE PHONE. >> YEAH, NO --

>> TECHNICALLY, WE WOULD LOVE TO GO THE OPPOSITE WAY IN CERTAIN ASPECTS AS WE HAVE A VERY COMPLICATED PHONE TREE JUST IN CASE SOMEBODY DOESN'T REACH A PERSON, BECAUSE I REMEMBER GETTING CHEWED OUT BY BRUCE TOUGH ONE TIME BECAUSE HE GOT STUCK IN AN AUTO ATTENDANT AT ONE POINT WHEN HE CALLED AFTER

HOURS. >> SO WHAT ABOUT THE PORTAL? DO PEOPLE LIKE THE 311 APP, PORTAL -- I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO CALL IT. DO PEOPLE USE THAT? IT SEEMS LIKE THEY PUT IN PHOTOGRAPHS AND THEY PUT IN DATA AND THEN WE RESPOND, THAT SOMEHOW GETS PROCESSED AND SENT TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENT. IT'S PRETTY INFORMATIVE ONCE IT GETS TO US AS BOARD MEMBERS. YOU CAN USUALLY UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEM. DOES THAT WORK?

>> WE HAVE HAD SOME FORM OF 311 SINCE I THINK 2016-'17.

AND I BELIEVE WHEN WE FIRST IMPLEMENTED IT, I THINK PARKS WANTED TO STRING ME UP BECAUSE THEIR WORK ORDER LOAD CELLED

SIGNIFICANTLY -- >> I THOUGHT IT WAS WORKING.

>> IT WAS WORKING. THERE'S A LOT OF DUPLICATIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO FILTER THROUGH. THE FRONT DESK DOES HAVE TO MANAGE SOME OF THOSE CALLS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CHECKING UP, THEY SUBMIT THING, THEY WANT IT DONE --

>> YESTERDAY. >> YESTERDAY.

>> WILLIAM, CAN I GO BACK TO THE CHAT BOTS REALLY QUICK.

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HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO THAT? >> WE HAVE HAD A CHATBOT IN THE PAST, SEVERAL YEARS AGO. YOU HAVE TO FEED THE CHATBOT WITH THE RIGHT DATA. I'M PRETTY SURE I HAVE LEANNE STARING AT REMEE RIGHT ME RIGHTE SHE'S NOT IN FAVOR OF CHAT BOTS.

>> DO WE HAVE ONE ON THE WEBSITE? HEY YOU I WANT TO FIND THIS ANDS LIKE HERE IT IS?

>> NO, WE DID -- WILLIAM IS CORRECT, WE DID HAVE A CHATBOT SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN WE TRANSITIONED TO THE NEW SITE, WE REMOVED THE CHATBOT BECAUSE WE FIX AD LOT OF THE ISSUES ON THE WEBSITE THAT PEOPLE WERE PUT NOTHING THE CHATBOT AND WE RAN INTO A CRITICAL PROBLEM DURING A WINTER STORM, WHENEVER SOMEONE ENTERED IN SOMETHING TO THE CHATBOT, WHEN IS MY BUS GOING TO PICK ME UP AND IT HAD PULLED OLD INFORMATION AND SO HE WAS STANDING OUT IN THE COLD FOR OVER AN HOUR THINKING THE BUS WAS COMING. AND SO AT THAT POINT, WE ACTUALLY DISABLED THE CHATBOT UNTIL WE COULD MAKE SURE THE INFORMATION WAS ACCURATE. SO IT'S ONLY AS GOOD AS THE

INFORMATION THAT'S BEING PUT. >> RIGHT.

>> AND WHEN THINGS CAN CHANGE FREQUENTLY, WE NEED TO BE VERY AWARE OF THAT. SO IT DOES TAKE PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES, MAKING SURE THAT INFORMATION IS ACCURATE.

>> HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT, THAT YOU WOULD THE CHATBOT --

>> THAT WAS IN 2024 I BELIEVE. >> SO LOTS' CHANGED SINCE 2024

THERE A TECHNOLOGY -- >> YES.

>> SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY I THINK FOR US TO EXPLORE THAT.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT TAKES PEOPLE, IT TAKES PEOPLE UNTIL YOU BUILD -- I THINK -- AND I'M NOT AN AI EXPERT BUT AN AGENT I CAN BOT. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT MAY NOT HAVE ACCESS TO --

>> AND THE PARTICULAR CHATBOT I'M TALKING ABOUT USED THE WEBSITE AS ITS PRIMARY SOURCE OF INFORMATION SO AGAIN IT FOUND AN OUTDATED PAGE AND WAS PULLING THAT INFORMATION.

>> YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK -- WHEN WE SAY CHATBOT FROM A TECHNOLOGY STANDPOINT, THAT'S LIKE SAYING FLIP PHONE VERSUS AN IPHONE 17 SO I THINK CHATBOT IS PROBABLY THE BAD WORD AND PROBABLY NOT THE THING THAT WE WANT TO USE, BUT I THINK THERE'S AN AI OPPORTUNITY IN THERE THAT -- AND ACTUALLY YOU COULD HAVE AN AI AGENT THAT GOES AND PULLS BAD AND OLD INFORMATION OFF THE WEBSITE, RIGHT, CONSISTENTLY HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S CLEANING THE WEBSITE AND PUTTING THINGS FRONT OF MIND, AND IT'S NOT EXPENSIVE.

IT JUST CREATES A -- WE HAVE TO DO STUFF A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT SO I THINK THAT WOULD ENHANCE CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE MASSIVE.

>> OKAY, OTHER QUESTIONS? >> THAT HELPS A LOT, THANKS.

>> I THINK WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF GOOD IDEAS FROM THIS CONVERSATION, AND I THINK YOU HEARD WILLIAM SAY WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY. WE CAN NOT PUT SOME OF THESE THINGS IN PRACTICE BUT WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY, TECHNOLOGY WISE, OR COULD GET THERE EASILY. SO SOMETHING WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOOK INTO AND TAKE YOUR IDEAS FROM THIS CONVERSATION AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH WAYS -- WITH THE PROS AND CONS OF IMPLEMENTATION AND IF THERE ARE ANY ADDITIONAL COSTS NOT WITHIN THIS BUDGET PROCESS RIGHT HERE BUT CERTAINLY WITHIN THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS, WE COULD DO THAT.

AND IN A MINUTE YOU WILL HEAR A PRESENTATION FROM WILLIAM WHERE THERE IS A SPECIFIC DOLLAR ASK IN ORDER TO ADVANCE OUR AI

INITIATIVES. >> GREAT.

THANK YOU. >> ANYTHING ELSE ON I-T?

>> NO. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU, WILLIAM. >> ANYONE ELSE?

>> THANK YOU, WILLIAM. >> THEN LAST BUT NOT LEAST,

FACILITIES. >> OUR FACILITIES.

THIS IS RELATED TO THIS BUILDING, TO TOWN HALL.

THESE ARE 100% REPLACEMENT CAPITAL -- WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE REPLACEMENT CAPITAL RESERVE. SO HVAC REPLACEMENT IS DUE.

THE LAST OF THE FURNITURE REPLACEMENT THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING. HVAC OPTIMIZATION.

SOME OF YOU ESPECIALLY 150, 152, YOU CAN FREEZE TO DEATH IN SOME AREAS IN THIS BUILDING [INDISCERNIBLE] THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO TO IMPROVE THE CLIMATE CONTROL IN

THIS BUILDING. >> CAN YOU FIX MY HOUSE TOO WHEN

YOU'RE FINISHED? >> EXACTLY. WE ALWAYS HAVE IN PREVIOUS BUDGETS ALWAYS INCLUDE A 50,000 SORT OF PLACEHOLDER BECAUSE THINGS HAPPEN DURING THE YEAR, NOT ANYTHING THAT WE'RE SPECIFIC AWARE OF BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING OF THIS AGE AND THIS SIZE, THINGS HAPPEN SO WE KEEP A 50,000 PLACEHOLDER AND

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>> DO WE RESELL THE FURNITURE? I THINK WE ASKED ABOUT THE PARKS

STUFF. >> WE DO.

WE ARE REQUIRED BY LAW. WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A CERTAIN

PROCESS, BUT WE DO, YES, SIR. >> ARE YOU ALSO LOOKING FOR SOME

FURNITURE? >> ALSO THERE COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY -- I DON'T KNOW LEGALLY BY LAW IF THERE'S A WAY TO DONATE -- IF THERE WAS A FAMILY THAT HAD A FIRE AND GIVE

THEM SOME CHAIRS -- >> WE CAN'T AS A GOVERNMENTAL

ENTITY. >> WELL, SELL IT, MAKE SOME

MONEY. >> THERE YOU GO.

OKAY. THAT CONCLUDES THE CAPITAL PRESENTATION AND REALLY THE PRESENTATION THROUGHOUT THE BASE BUDGET. SO AGAIN, IF WE WANT TO REVISIT ANYTHING. OTHERWISE, THE NEXT STEPS WOULD BE TO MOVE INTO THE DISCUSSION OF BUDGET INITIATIVES.

>> THAT WOULD BE GREAT. IT WE TAKE A 15-MINUTE BREAK?

>> OF COURSE. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

IT'S 9:45 A.M. GOING TO TAKE A RECESS.

>> WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. MONIQUE, BEFORE YOU JUMP OFF, DURING THE BREAK WE HAD A FEW MORE QUESTIONS ON STAR LINK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. CAN WE GET THE CHIEFS BACK UP AND PROBABLY WILLIAMS UP YOU HERE AS WELL SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GETTING AND WHAT WE'RE NOT.

THANKS, CHIEF. >> I WOULD LIKE TO PREFACE THIS DISCUSSION BY IT'S ALL WILLIAMS' FAULT, BUT GO AHEAD.

>> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE WILLIAMS COME UP YOU.

>> CHIEF, I WAS JUST THINKING MORE ABOUT STARLINK AND SOMETHING I SHOULD HAVE ASKED EARLIER.

ARE THOSE PERMANENT DEVICES, LIKE, INSTALLED? OR ARE THEY PORTABLE? BECAUSE I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW,

THESE -- >> SO WE HAVE --

>> PORTABLE STARLINKS, WHICH YOU CAN TAKE CAMPING OR

WHATEVER. >> THESE WOULD BE INSTALLED ON THE TRUCK. SO THEY WOULDN'T BE -- I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'D MOUNT THEM. THEY COULD COME OFF.

>> SO ON IF FIRST LINE A RATTUS, THE PUMPERS, THE TRUCKS AND THE BATTALION CHIEFS VEHICLES, THOSE WILL ALL BE FIXED MOUNT. THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY A 12 BY 12 DISH. ON THE HAZMAT VEHICLE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY OUR MOBILE COMMAND CENTRE, THEY HAVE THAT IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT ON AN AT THE TIMER CORD. BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHERE THEY GO THE DISHES, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO SPIN THAT DISH AROUND. SO THEY FOUND IT EASIER TO HAVE IT ON A LONG CORD AND POSITION AS NEEDED.

>> BUT AS FAR AS PORTABILITY, LIKE, HEY, THIS CAR OR TRUCK IS GOING OUT, LET ME GRAB THE STARLINK OUT OF THE HOUSE, AND

THROW IT IN THE TRUCK. >> WE FIND THAT TO NOT BE VERY PRACTICAL ON A MOBILE APPARATUS. THE PRIMARY IDEA FOR THE FIRST LINE APPARATUS IS IN THE EVENT HE WITH KNOW THAT THERE'S A TOTAL LOSS OF CELL COVERAGE THEN THEY CAN AUTOMATICALLY USE THE STARLINK DISH THAT IS MOUNTED. BECAUSE THERE IS A TIME DELAY TO SET EVERYTHING UP. IF YOU HAD TO YANK IT OUT OF A

PELICAN BOX, PLUG EVERYTHING IN. >> AND OF THE 31 PROPOSED UNITS, HOW MANY ARE FIRE TRUCKS AND CHIEF AND BATTALION CHIEF

AND THEN STAFF VEHICLES? >> SO WE HAVE TEN FRANTICLINE APPARATUSICS TWO OTHER TRUCKS THAT ARE JUMP TRUCKS, WE HAVE FOUR BRUSH TRUCKS, SO AGAIN, NOT SURE WHICH ONES WE WOULD PUT INTO SERVICE. SO THE RESERVE APPARATUS AS WELL. SO 31 IS WHAT WE'D INSTALL ON ALL THE UNITS THAT WOULD BE RESPONDING.

>> 31 TOTAL UNITS. HOW MANY -- IS THAT TOTAL

VEHICLES THAT -- >> 31 VEHICLES THAT MIGHT BE

UTILIZED. >> HOW MANY VEHICLES DO YOU

GUYS HAVE IN SERVICE? >> SO EVERYDAY WITH HAVE 10 FRONTLINE COMPANIES. WE HAVE TWO BATTALION CHIEFS.

WE ALSO HAVE HAZMAT AND RESCUE TRUCK THAT ARE UTILIZED IF

THEY'RE NEEDED. >> IS THAT ONE TRUCK OR TWO

TRUCKS? >> TWO.

>> SO 14. >> PLUS 4 BRUSH TRUCKS THAT COULD BE CALLED OUT, PLUS 3 COMMAND TRUCKS, 3 COMMAND UNITS LIKE THE UP WITH THAT I TROOIF THAT CAN BE CALLED OUT.

AND THEN WE HAVE 3 RESERVE ENGINES, 1 RESERVE LADDER.

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>> SO IF YOU HAVE -- I HAD A FIRE RECENTLY P I THINK WE HAD EIGHT TRUCKS DOWN MY CUL-DE-SAC. YOU WERE THERE, CHIEF.

AND IT ALL WASN'T FROM THE WOODLANDS FIRE DEPARTMENT.

BUT IF YOU, CHIEF, PULLED UP YOUR CHIEF VEHICLE, CAN THOSE ERE TRUCKS SITTING IN MY CUL-DE-SAC TAP INTO YOUR

SATELLITE DISH? >> THEY COULD.

IT COULD BE AS A HOT SPOT, YES, SIR.

BUT AGAIN, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IS IF WE LOSE THE CELL TOWER, THE CELL SYSTEM, THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONTINUE TO GET DATA THAT WE NEED TO DO TO BE FUNCTIONAL. IT REPLACES THE COMPUTERS THAT WE HAVE ON BOARD. WE DON'T HAVE THAT DATA.

WE DON'T HAVE MAP BOOKS ANYMORE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS YOU PROGRESS WITH TECHNOLOGY, SO ALL THE STUFF GOES AWAY.

WE TALKED ABOUT DURING BARREL AND DURING ANOTHER RECENT OUTAGE THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW RIGHT AWAY WHERE THE FIRE TRUCKS WERE.

OPERATING FROM THE EMERGENCY OPERATION CENTRE, WE CAN'T SEE WHERE THE FIRE TRUCKS ARE ANYMORE.

THAT ALLOWS US TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN BE IF WE HAD THAT DATA THAT STILL ALLOWED THAT CONNECTIVITY.

>> WILLIAM, ARE WE PUTTING SATELLITES ON ANY OTHER VEHICLES IN THE TOWNSHIP? STAR LINK ON ANY OTHER VEHICLES

IN THE TOWNSHIP? >> NO, THE ONLY FLEET WE HAVE REQUIRES AN EMERGENCY RESPONSE WOULD BE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.

WE DO HAVE PORTABLE STARLINK UNITS IN CASE THERE'S A FAILURE OF SOME FACILITY OR WE NEED TO STAND UP SOMETHING REMOTELY, BUT AS FAR AS FLEET, NO, IT WITH WOULD JUST BE THE FIRE

DEPARTMENT. >> ALL RIGHT.

I TEXTED THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE ASKING IF THEY HAD STAR THANKS LINK ON THEIR VEHICLES. WE HAVE 101 VEHICLES; IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY STARLINK ON ANY STREAK PERIOD WITHIN THEIR ENTIRE FLEET.

FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTY. AND THEY'RE COPS.

THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT NEED THAN WE DO? OR BETTER RADIO SYSTEM? WHY AREN'T THEY ADVOCATING FOR

THIS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IS? >> AGAIN, THIS IS A VALUE ADD IN TRYING TO MEET WHAT THE BOARD HAD DIRECTED.

IT'S A PROGRAM THAT WOULD BE NEEDED VERY INFREQUENTLY, BUT YOU A PROGRAM THAT WOULD ADD CENTRAL IF WE NEEDED TO DO IT.

>> CHIEF, ON AVERAGE IS THERE, LIKE -- AND I APOLOGIZE, I DON'T KNOW THE STRUCTURE OF THIS, BUT IF YOU GUYS HAVE A CALL, IS THERE, LIKE, A SET AMOUNT OF TRUCKS? IS THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE, A UNIT, TWO TRUCKS, THREE TRUCKS,

EVERY TIME TYPE THING? >> SURE.

EACH CALL TYPE HAS A RESPONSE THAT GOES FROM ONE TRUCK TO

EIGHT. >> SO SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE ONE

TRUCK ONLY GO. >> JUST A MEDICAL CALL.

A SIMPLE DUMPSTER FIRE ELECTRICAL SHORT.

WE'LL HAVE ONE CALL GO. >> THERE WILL ONLY BE ONE

VEHICLE? >> YEAH.

>> OKAY , I'VE NEVER SEEN ONE VEHICLE.

THAT'S WHY I WAS CURIOUS IF HE WE HAD MORE.

BUT YOU IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LARGER, THEN YOU SEND MORE.

>> CORRECT. ALL THE WAY -- I MEAN, WE COULD GO TO A SECOND ALARM FIRE. WE MIGHT HAVE 20 FIRE TRUCKS.

>> AND IF YOU'RE DOING -- SO IF YOU HAVE YOU ONE VEHICLE -- IS THERE, LIKE -- DOES IT START WITH THERE'S ONE VEHICLE THAT WOULD GO NO MATTER WHAT AND THEN IT GOES DOWN BASED ON THE CALL?

>> SURE. CLOSEST UNIT GOES.

TO ANY CALL. SO A UNIT IF ANY ONE OF THE EIGHT STATIONS WITH WOULD GO. A FIRE TRUCK OR A FIRE

APPARATUS. >> ONE OF THESE BIGGER TRUCKS.

>> YES, SIR. >> AND HOW MANY TOTAL LARGE FIRE

TRUCKS DO WE HAVE? >> SO WE HAVE TEN FRONTLINE COMPANIES, FOUR PEOPLE ON EACH OF THOSE.

SIX ENGINES AND FOUR LADDERS THAT WE HAVE IN THE WOODLANDS.

>> WITH WOULD ANY OF THE HAZMAT TRUCKS OR ANYTHING GO WITHOUT

ANY OF THOSE? >> THEY CAN.

OR THE WHOLE CREW WILL GET OFF OF THE LADDER OR ENGINE AND JUMP ON TO THE HAZMAT OR RESCUE TRUCK TO GO.

>> IS THERE EVER A TIME WHERE YOU GUYS HAVE TO GO I'LL SAY INTO THE WOODS OR SOMETHING AND YOU'RE, LIKE, AWAY FROM A

STREAK? >> ALL THE TIME.

>> AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE TO CRAIG'S POINT, WITH A PORTABLE STARLINK, BEING ABLE TO PULL IT OFF THE TRUCK AND ROLL, THEN YOU'RE, LIKE, RIGHT THERE, YOU KNOW, INTO THE WOODS, SO TO SPEAK. JUST CURIOUS ON THAT.

>> SO THAT WE WITH WOULD NOT HAVE THE COMMUNICATION AT THAT POINT. WE WOULD IN MOST CASES HAVE THE RADIO TO GO DOWN THERE. THE LAST TIME THAT WE WENT OFF INTO THE WOOLDZ WAS LAST NIGHT AT 5:00.

SOMEBODY GOT OVERHEATED OFF IN THE WOODS BEHIND BEAR BRANCH RECREATION PARK, SO THE GUS WENT DOWN THERE.

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>> SO YOU GUYS HAVE TO PARK AND KIND OF TREK IT THEN.

>> WELL, JUST A CALL THAT WAS OFF AWAY FROM STANDING.

THEY HAD TO WALK BACK THERE. THEY COMMANDEERED A RANGER VEHICLE ACTUALLY, SO WE HAD THAT ABILITY.

TO GET A GUY. WHO WAS ILLEGALLY FISHING, BUT THAT'S K. HE GOT OVERHEATED ILLEGALLY FISHING. SO WE BROUGHT HIM BACK IN THE RANGER VEHICLE AND CITED HIM AND IT'S ALL GOOD.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR CHIEF? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. >> YES, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT, MONIQUE, WHAT'S NEXT?

[8. Receive, consider and act upon Budget Initiatives related to the 2027 Preliminary Budget and Five-Year Plan;]

SO NEXT WILLIAM IS GOING TO PRESENT OUR BUDGET INITIATIVE ON ADVANCING AI. AND BEFORE THAT, I JUST WANT TO -- I DON'T TYPICALLY DO THIS, BUT I WANT TO READ SOME OF WILLIAMS CREDENTIALS, JUST BECAUSE THIS IS THE SOURCES THAT WE HAVE LARGELY USED IN ORDER TO DEVELOP THIS INITIATIVE AND THAT HAS SORT OF LED OUR DISCUSSIONS ON AI IN THE ORGANIZATION.

SO WILLIAM IS -- THE TEXAS STATE AND LOCAL CYBER SECURITY GRANT PROGRAM COMMITTEE UNDER THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY THAT WAS A MULTI YEAR APPOINTMENT BY THE STATE.

HE IS ON THE GOV AI COALITION USE COMMITTEE MEMBER.

HE'S ON GOV AI READINESS AND ADO ADOPTION COMMITTEE MEMBER. SO SPECIFIC AI, SPECIFIC TO GOVERNMENTS, IS DIFFERENT THAN AI THAT MAY APPLY TO A PRIVATE BUSINESS. SO WE WANT TO MAKE THAT DISTINCTION. SO THROUGH HIS PARTICIPATION ON THESE COMMITTEES, SPECIFIC TO GOVERNMENT, THAT IS WHERE A LOT OF OUR SOURCE INFORMATION IS COMING FROM.

SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.

IN ADDITION, WILLIAM SEASON THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF GOVERNMENT I.T. MANAGERS, MINI COMMITTEES, INCLUDING CYBER SECURITY ADMINISTRATION. HE'S BEEN ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND HAS ACTUALLY SERVED AS THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THAT. SO AGAIN, HE HAS ACCESS TO A LOT OF EXPERIENCE AND A LOT OF RESOURCE MATERIALS IN ORDER TO INFORM THIS PRESENTATION YOU'RE GONNA SEE.

>> THANK YOU FOR THOSE ACCOLADES.

I'LL HOPEFULLY REMEMBER THAT DURING THE PERFORMANCE

EVALUATION. >> MAYBE YOU'LL GET MORE THAN

3%. >> I'M ALL FOR THAT.

OKAY. BUDGET INITIATIVE.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME GO FIRST.

AND TAKE HOPEFULLY A FIRST CHUNK OUT OF THE POT BEFORE EVERYONE

ELSE. >> MONIQUE, HOW MANY DO WE HAVE? HOW MANY BUDGET INITIATIVES DO

VERY WE HAVE? >> ABOUT 15.

>> OKAY. AND THESE WERE ALSO ONES SUBMITTED BY BOARD MEMBERS? OKAY.

I'VE GOT A FEW MORE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING ON.

THEY'RE NOT 14. >> HOW MANY?

>> MIGHT BE 5. BUT I'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL OF THEM. SO IT NOT MAJOR ISSUES.

GO AHEAD. >> ALL RIGHT.

SO HERE'S BASICALLY THE ASK HERE.

WE'RE LOOKING AT 30,000 IN TRAINING AND 70,000 IN LICENSING USAGE. SO TOTAL 100,000.

JUST TO PREFACE THAT, WE ALREADY HAVE ABOUT I WANT TO SAY 75 CO-PILOT LICENSES AS MICROSOFT PRODUCT.

WE HAVE 50 CLOUD LICENSES. THE LICENSES THEMSELVES REALLY AREN'T THAT EXPENSIVE. 20, 30 BUCKS A SEAT.

BUT YOU WHERE YOU GET INTO THE COSTS IS THE USAGE COSTS.

UNFORTUNATELY RIGHT NOW, THE USAGE COSTS ACROSS THE BOARD WITH EVERY PLATFORM IS NOT VERY TRANSPARENT.

IT'S A LOT OF, I THINK, VOODOO MATH WHEN YOU GET INTO IT.

YOU USE IT AND THEY SEND YOU YOU A BILL.

WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS TARGETED AI TRAINING.

I'M NOT RECOMMENDING PROVIDING AI CLIENTS TO EVERYBODY, OR TRAINING THE INTIR COMPANY ON AI.

BECAUSE FOR THE MOST PART YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THAT RO I.

A LOT OF THE INDIVIDUAL USAGE OF AI RIGHT NOW IS IT GENERATING.

AND THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD AND THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

GENERATING AN E-MAIL, GENERATING A WORD DO C.

YES, YOU MAY SEE SOME EFFICIENCIES, BUT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO SEE ANY MONEY RETURN FROM AN INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTOR. WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO USE IT FOR IS ESSENTIALLY ENHANCED STAFF PRODUCTIVITY.

WE WANT TO FOCUS ON COVENANTS AND FINANCE FIRST.

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IT'S MORE FORMULA RELATED, ARE WHERE WE'LL SEE THE ROI.

SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN WORKING WITH COVENANTS FOR THE LAST FOUR, FIVE MONTHS, DEVELOPING AI USAGE.

AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A BIT. SO WE WANT TO PILOT AUTOMATION SO THAT WE CAN SEE IS RESULTS AND SCALE IT FROM THERE.

LONG-TERM WE'RE LOOKING AT COMPANY WIDE HOPEFULLY A TWO OR THREE-YEAR RETURN ON INVESTMENT. SO THE GOALS, JUST THESE ARE MY GOALS. HOPEFULLY WITH EVERYBODY ELSE AS WELL. NUMBER ONE, YOU NEED THE HUMAN IN THE LOOP WITH ANYTHING AI. THERE'S ALL SORTS OF FEARS, SKY NET, TAKE YOUR PICK. REGARDLESS, AI DOES MAKE MISTAKES. IT LEARNS FROM THE DATA THAT PEOPLE HAVE PROVIDED. SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S GUARD RACE. YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S PROPER OVERSIGHT. WE'RE LOOKING AT PRODUCTIVITY ENHANCEMENT, AND THIS TARGET CAN MOVE.

WE'RE LOOKING TO AUTOMATE AT LEAST 30 TO 40% OF OUR ROUTINE PROCESSES. AND THOSE ARE THE STRAIGHTFORWARD STUFF. NOT NECESSARILY THE COMPLICATED ONES BECAUSE THAT'S WITH WHERE IT CAN GET SUBJECTIVE.

AND THIS ALLOWS STAFF TO FOCUS ON MORE COMPLEX ISSUES.

WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN DEFER OR AVOID ONE OR TWO FTE'S OVER TIME. AND THAT'S FOCUSSED ON THE ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF. THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO REPLACE ANYBODY IN THE FIELD. THAT'S NOT GOING TO REPLACE ANY FIREFIGHTER OR DISPATCH. TECHNOLOGY IS NOT THERE.

EVEN IF IT WAS, I DON'T KNOW IF WE'D ADVOCATE IT.

WE'RE HOPING TO MAKE THE TOOLS EASIER FOR EVERYBODY.

WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO ELIMINATE STAFF.

AND STRATEGICALLY WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT GOING TO REPLACE STAFF. SO HERE'S THE PLAN.

COVENANT ADMINISTRATION, WE'VE BEEN TESTING THIS, TO AUTO SORT APPLICATIONS, FLAG MISSING DOCUMENTS, APPROVE SIMPLE APPLICATIONS. I.T. HAS BEEN TESTING IT.

COVENANTS HAS JUST STARTED TESTING IT TO VERIFY WE'RE NOT DREAMING. SOME OF OUR STUFF WE'VE LOOKED AT THE APPLICATIONS. A LOT OF THAT IS CALCULATING THE HARD SPACE, THE HARD SURFACE TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOU THE PROPER GREEN SPACE, THE PROPER MEASUREMENTS, MAKING SURE ALL THE PROPER DOCUMENTS ARE SUBMITTED.

THAT'S THE BASE LEVEL BEFORE YOU GET TO ANYTHING SUBJECTIVE.

WE'VE TIMED THAT. IT 90 SECONDS TO RETURN A RESULT. AND RIGHT NOW UTILIZATION FROM TOKENS FROM CLAUDE IS 4 CENTS EACH TIME.

ONCE WE DO THAT THEY HAVE TO DO SOME OTHER STUFF, BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT SHAVING TIME SO THAT THE APPLICATIONS CAN GET PROCESSED QUICKER AND THEY CAN HANDLE THE WORKLOAD A LOT

FASTER. >> ARE YOU BUILDING ANY SORT OF -- IS IT GOING TO BE, LIKE, VECTOR-BASED -- LIKE, WITH WHEN YOU BUILD IT OUT SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO SPEND AS MUCH SEARCHING THROUGH EVERYTHING AND IT'S MORE SPECIFIC?

>> SO GETTING INTO THE WEEDS THERE IS FOR THE COVENANTS PART WE'RE USING THE CLAUDE SKILLS. SO WE HAVE THE REPOSITIVETORY THIS HAS ALL THE COVENANT STANDARDS.

YOU CAN THINK OF IT AS -- [INDISCERNIBLE] SO YOU FEED IT THE APPLICATION. IT RUNS THROUGH THE PROCESS.

CHECKS EVERYTHING. MAKES SURE EVERYTHING IS THERE AND IT GIVES YOU A THUMBS UP OR 0R A THUMBS DOWN.

IF IT'S A THUMBS UP THEN STAFF WILL LOOK AT IT.

IF IT'S A THUMBS UP THEY NEED TO VERIFY THAT, YES HE, 2 PLUS 2 IS

4. >> AND ARE YOU LOOKING -- MAYBE THIS IS PHASE TWO OF THE COVENANTS.

I THINK ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT BRAD WAS MENTIONING THE OTHER DAY, WHERE IT'S TWO SIDED IN THE SENSE OF THE RESIDENTS CAN SUBMIT STUFF YOU , AND IT CAN TELL THEM HEY, YOU'RE MISSING THIS, THIS AND THIS BEFORE IT EVEN COMES TO YOU GUYS.

SO THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING A FULL SUBMISSION BEFORE --

>> SO WITH OUR EXISTING SYSTEM, BECAUSE THIS IS JUST ATTACKING INTO THE EXISTING STM. SO THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT EVERYTHING ONLINE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING, IT'S NOT GOING TO PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

IT'S GOING TO SAY YOU'RE MISSING X, Y, Z.

NOW, THE SYSTEM ONCE THEY GET IT, IT'S GOING TO VERIFY SOMEBODY DIDN'T JUST SCAN A NAPKIN WITH SCRIBBLY STUFF ON THERE. SO WE TAKE THAT INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICATION, WE FEED IT AND CLAUDE COMES BACK WITH A RESULT.

IF IT'S YES OR NO, WE PUT IT BACK INTO OUR SYSTEM AND THEN WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REMAINING STEPS.

ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR ON THAT? >> SO IT SOUNDS, LIKE, EITHER WAY, IF IT GETS A THUMBS UP OR A THUMBS DOWN, SOMEONE'S REVIEWING

THAT. >> THERE'S ALWAYS A HUMAN IN THE LOOP. IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION,

SOMEBODY'S VERIFYING IT. >> SO REALLY THE TIME SAVING IS

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>> RIGHT. FILTERING THROUGH, MAKING SURE

ALL THE CHECKS -- >> YOU SAID 90 SECONDS.

>> 90 SECONDS FOR THAT PIECE. >> WHAT MIGHT IT TAKE MANUALLY TODAY? HOW LONG WITH WOULD IT TAKE, LIKE, A PERSON TO GO THROUGH YOU THAT? BALLPARK. AND I'M SURE EVERY FILE IS IT DIFFERENT. [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT. SO I MEAN, THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S FANTASTIC. THANK YOU.

>> IF THERE'S NO OTHER COVENANT QUESTION --

>> I HAVE A COVENANT QUESTION. IS THE CURRENT SYSTEM WORKING? IS THIS THE BEST SYSTEM WE HAVE TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO?

>> THE SYSTEM WE'RE USING TODAY? >> YEAH.

>> IT THE BEST SYSTEM OF WHAT'S LEFT.

>> I THINK THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY THOUGH, BRAD, DEPENDING ON THE DEPTH OF THE WEEDS OF THE AI OF IT, TO ACTUALLY ADVISE ON HOW WE CAN DO IT A BETTER WAY.

>> I DON'T BELIEVE THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS, LIKE, A WINDOWS BASED SYSTEM THAT'S EASILY DONE ON YOUR COMPUTER, ON YOUR IPHONE,

IS IT? >> FOR WHAT STAFF USES OR WHAT

THE RESIDENT SUBMITS? >> THE CUSTOMERS, RESIDENTS.

>> SO THE PROCESS ITSELF WAS SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION -- I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY PRODUCT OUT THERE WHERE IT'S SIMPLE ENOUGH TO UPLOAD ON THE FRONT OF YOUR SMART PHONE.

THERE'S ALWAYS DOCUMENTS YOU HAVE TO UPLOAD.

>> I THINK WE COULD FIND ONE. I BET WE COULD.

WE HAVE PRETTY SMART PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE COULD DESIGN ONE WITH THE I JUST THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE THING. I'M ALL ABOUT AI.

TRUST ME. I GET IT.

BUT IF WE'RE PLUGGING INTO A SYSTEM THAT'S REALLY NOT DOING THE BEST POSSIBLE SCENARIO FOR US.

BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH DEMAND IN THAT DEPARTMENT.

IT'S OUTWARDLY FACING. YOU I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ON THIS. ALL THE TIME.

ON THINGS. AND IT'S A PROCESS, WILLIAM.

IT NOT JUST I.T.'S FAULT. IT THE PROCESS.

WHICH WE THINK WE CAN NEGOTIATE TO SEE IF WE CAN'T STREAMLINE THAT A LITTLE BIT. BUT WE NEED TO CENTRE COMMITTEE ON IT TO REALLY DIAL IN BEFORE WE START PLUGGING I.T. INTO IT AND, YOU KNOW, MAKING IT A PROBLEM.

BEFORE WE START DOING I.T., THE RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS, TAKE A PICTURE OF THEIR PLANS AND SUBMIT IT THAT WAY.

IT WOULD BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BEFORE WE START INTRODUCING AI. IF THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I'M NOT AN I.T. GUY. SO I JUST THINK HAVING A COMMITTEE PUT TOGETHER ON THIS TO REALLY DIVE IN AND LOOK AT IT, WE CAN DO IT IN TANDEM AND PARALLEL TRACKS WHILE YOU'RE DOING A LOT OF THINGS ON THIS. BUT THIS COVENANT ADMINISTRATION PIECE IS HUGE FOR US. IT'S CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE ON STEROIDS.

AND I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS A SORE SPOT IN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. NOT BECAUSE OF STAFF.

JUST BECAUSE THE DEMAND, THE PROCESS, THE SYSTEMS, EVERYTHING IS DISCOMBOBULATED. AND I THINK WE HAVE TO, LIKE, ROLL OUR SLEEVES UP, BRING IN STOP BOARD MEMBERS, BUT ALSO BRING IN SOME SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS OR PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND IT IN THE COMMUNITY. HOW WE CAN STREAMLINE IT AND BE THE MOST EFFICIENT, YOU KNOW, COVENANT BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, IN THE NATION.

I THINK WE COULD FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO THAT, BUT IT GOING TO

TAKE SOME WORK. >> THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION WITH THE BUDGET INITIATIVE. IS THERE ANY ROOM IN THERE TO POTENTIALLY BRING IN AN OUTSTANDING EXPERT? I'M SURE THERE'S SOMEBODY THAT EXISTS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO CONSULT AND HELP CREATE SOMETHING THAT THE TOWNSHIP OWNS, RIGHT? OUR OWN AGENDA, AI BRAIN FOR THE COVENANT BRAIN OF THE WOODLANDS. IS THERE ANY ROOM IN THAT BUDGET, OR IS THAT AN INITIATIVE THAT WE COULD CENTRE SOMEBODY COME IN AND CONSULT ON WHAT IT WITH WOULD LOOK LIKE TO ACTUALLY

CREATE THAT? >> CREATE AN APP?

>> I DON'T KNOW ABOUT AN APP, BUT TO BRAD'S POINT ABOUT BRINGING AN OUTSIDE PARTNER IN AND STAYING WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING THAT DOES THAT BETTER. HERE'S THE USER EXPERIENCE.

YOU KNOW, OPTION FOR IT. AND THEN HERE'S THE INTERNAL OPTION THAT, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.

>> ADAM, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE STAYING.

CONSULTANTS OUT THERE, THEY HAVE THESE EXPERTISE.

OF COURSE YOU CAN'T HAVE AN EXPERTISE IN EVERYTHING, WILLIAM. BUT I'M SURE SOMEWHERE IN THE BUDGET, IN THE LONG RUN, IT WOULD SAVE US MONEY TO BRING A CONSULTANT IN AND FIND OUT BEST PRACTICES SOMEWHERE ELSE.

[INAUDIBLE] >> WELL, WE NEED TO HEAR FROM

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OUR NEEDS HAVE CHANGED. WE'RE NOT BUILDING NEW HOMES LIKE WE WERE. WE'RE REMODELLING AND THAT TAKES A LOT OF PAPERWORK. AND ARTHUR TOO IS AN EXPERT ON

THIS. >> AND TO SAY, WE HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL THAT'S BEEN DOING OUR ADMINISTRATIVE WORK FOR DECADES.

SORRY, IT WAS MEANT TO BE A COMPLIMENT.

>> I THINK SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE AN OUTSIDE PERSON WHO, AGAIN, IS NOT ATTACHED IN ANYWAY, JUST, LIKE, HERE'S THE PROCESS, DO YOU SEE WHERE WE COULD BUILD SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE WITH YOU THING FOR US TO LICENSE CLAUDE AND USE IT, BUT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AND IT NOT TERRIBLY EXPENSE OF BECAUSE I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW YOU TO BUILD OUR OWN MODEL THAT HE WE WITH -- THAT WE OWN THAT'S SECURITY PROSECUTED AND ALL THOSE THINGS. I THINK IT COULD BE WORTH THE INVESTMENT TO IS SOMEBODY COME IN AND REVIEW THE SYSTEM, MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS AND POTENTIALLY BUILD IT.

AND THEN TRAIN THE TEAM. OR VERSUS MAYBE OUR TEAM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THEY HAVEN'T DONE.

>> I'M NOT HE -- I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THAT.

WE WITH WOULD NEED A BUDGET INITIATIVE.

I'M JUST SAYING BY BRINGING UP YOU ARTHUR AND BRETT AND THE STAFF, COVENANTS, IT'S COMPLICATED AND THERE'S PROCESSES THAT MAY NOT BE EFFICIENT THAT ARE DICTATED BY THE COVENANTS. AND WE'RE TIED TO THOSE.

I'M NOT OPPOSED AT ALL TO BRINGING SOMEONE IN, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY WITH THE TEAM.

>> IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED. >> IT VERY, VERY COMPLICATED.

>> IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED. IT'S NOT IN SOMEBODY'S HEAD.

>> YES AND NO. >> IT'S WRITTEN DOWN.

>> PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE THIS, AND I'D LOVE KIM TO STEP IN THE I MISSTATE IT, IS THERE ARE THE ROUTINE THINGS, RIGHT, THAT ARE HEY, I'M CHANGING THE SHINGLES ON MY ROOF. ARE THEY THE RIGHT COLOUR? THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DETAIL GATED TO STAFF THAT DO NOT GO TO THE DSC, THAT ARE STAFF APPROVAL.

REPLACING PLANKS ON MY FENCE. YOU KNOW, THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO THERE'S NO DOUBT -- AND WE'VE AUTOMATED THAT FROM A STAND POINT OF LETTING STAFF APPROVE THOSE WITHOUT THERE BEING A BIG COMPLICATED PROCESS. WHERE IT GETS TRICKY ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE UNIQUE, LIKE, WHAT WE CALL VARIANCES.

SO BRAD WANTS TO BUILD AN EXTRA 3,000 FEET ON TO HIS HOUSE AND THE IOUD SAYS HE CAN ONLY BUILD 2,000.

YOU HAVE YOU TO FIGURE THAT OUT. >> STILL HAS TO GO IN FRONT OF

THE DSC. >> ABSOLUTELY.

SO THE ISSUE -- I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.

LIKE MOST PROCESSES, A LARGE PERCENTAGE HAVE BEEN AUTOMATED.

COULD PROBABLY BE FURTHER AUTOMATED, BUT THERE ARE DECISIONS THAT ARE MADE RELATED TO COMPLICATED THINGS.

LIKE, WHEN YOU ADD ON TO A HOUSE WHEN YOU CHANGE ARCHITECTURAL STRUCTURE THAT DO REQUIRE SOMEONE TO LOOK AT THEM AND SAY THAT'S GOOD, THAT'S NOT GOOD, THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I LIKE THE IDEA. LISTEN, I AGREE HE THAT FROM AN OUTSIDE USER PERSPECTIVE, IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS.

BECAUSE IT WAS IS THE UP YOU TO BE VERY UNFORGIVING FROM A STAND POINT OF DOING THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO CAUSE VALUE PROBLEMS. THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS SET UP BY GEORGE MITCHELL IN THE VERY BEGINNING. WE WANT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE SURGEON SQUARE FOOTAGE. WE WANT CERTAIN ARCHITECTURAL VIEWS. WE WANT MUTED COLORS, ALL THESE THINGS ARE DIALLED IN TO THE COVENANTS THEMSELVES THAT YOU CAN'T CHANGE. BUT I THINK IT'S WORTH A LOOK TO SAIL, OKAY , NOW CAN HE WE FURTHER AUTOMATE THOSE THINGS WHERE THE STAFF ARE REALLY FOCUSSED ON THOSE CRITICAL ITEMS

THAT TAKE SOME ANALYSIS, RIGHT? >> AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'VE SAT IN A MEETING RECENTLY AND I WAS IMPRESSED BY THE MEMORY OF, LIKE, OH, WE MADE THIS EXCEPTION BACK WHEN, REMEMBER.

CERTAIN THINGS, WHICH ARE GREAT. BUT WE'RE LEAVING THINGS TO MEMORY, THAT'S BAD NEWS. AND I THINK WE PROBABLY RECORD ALL THESE THINGS JUST, LIKE, THIS MEETING NOW.

NO? WE DON'T ARE RECORD THE DSC? CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE HISTORICALLY HAVE NOT.

YOU I KNOW WE NOW HAVE CAMERA SYSTEMSEM YNG WE'RE RECORDING THOSE MEETINGS OR PUSHING THEM OUT.

>> K OKAY. I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY AS WELL WITH TRANSCRIPTION AND ALL THOSE THINGS, WHERE IF THERE'S AI BUILT IN THERE, IT'S GATHERING ALL THE INFORMATION.

I THINK THERE'S A PART OF THAT THAT COULD HELP SPEED THINGS UP

AS WELL, VERSUS MEMORY. >> SO THAT COVENANT ADMIN OBVIOUSLY IS JUST ONE PIECE OF THIS AI BUDGET INITIATIVE.

LET'S HEAR ABOUT THE OTHER THREE HE.

>> SURE. JUST GOING BACK TO BUILDING SOMETHING NEW, CUSTOM. SO THIS IS I THINK OUR FOURTH ITERATION WHEN WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THIS SYSTEM.

EVERY TIME WE IMPLEMENT A NEW SYSTEM WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE

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WE GO WITH STAFF AND THEN THE COMPANY THAT'S DOING IT, USING IT AS A PRACTICE. FWLY SPEAKING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT A CUSTOM APPLICATION, YOUR GOING TO SPEND A LOT MORE THAN COMMERCIAL OFF THE SHELF. COMMERCIAL OFF THE SHELF GETS YOU PROBABLY 80% OF WHAT YOU NEED.

CUSTOM WILL PROMISE IT WILL GET YOU WHERE YOU WANT.

USUALLY YOU SEE A LOT OF COST OVERRUNS.

NOT TO STAY THAT THIS COULD HAPPEN, BUT THERE'S ALWAYS A DANGER OF THAT. WHEN WE DID LOOK AT THIS SYSTEM VERSUS SOME OF THE OTHER ONES WITH, THE COST ESTIMATES FOR A CUSTOM SYSTEM WERE ABOUT 1.5. VERSUS HALF A MILLION.

SO THERE'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER THERE.

IT CAN HAPPEN. IT CAN BE A LITTLE CHEAPER, BUT USUALLY CUSTOM IS GOING TO COST YOU MORE. FROM THERE, ANYTIME YOU BRING IN ANOTHER SYSTEM, THERE'S ANOTHER INTEGRATION COST AND THERE'S ALWAYS -- IT'S ALWAYS FLUID.

THEY'RE ALWAYS DIPPING IN THATLE WITH WITH.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS HESITANT TO DO THAT, NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T DO IT. NEXT SECTION IS IT INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY. WE'RE ALREADY DOING A LOT OF THIS STUFF ALREADY. WITH OUR EXISTING FUNDS.

ON THE HELP DESK AUTOMAKES, APP DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE BEEN TWOPING APPS INTERNALLY WITH THE USE OF CLAUDE BEFOREHAND. AND WE'VE BUILT SOME APPLICATIONS THERE AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

WE'RE ACTUALLY REPLACING ONE OF OUR LEGSTY DATABASES, OUR PROPERTY DATABASES IN HOUSE. AND WE'VE SPENT ABOUT, I DON'T KNOW, YEARS AGO IT'S A 20-YEAR-OLD SYSTEM THAT'S UPGRADED OVER TIME. I WANT TO SAY WEEN ANDET A QUARTERER MILLION ON THAT AND ABOUT $35,000 A YEAR ON MAINTENANCE AND UPYOU GRADES AND WE'RE DOING THAT IN HOUSE WITH OUR MEASURES RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S A LOT OF COST SAVINGS THERE. SECURITY ANALYSIS, THAT'S IN PLACE RIGHT NOW AS WELL. SO FROM THERE IT'S JUST MORE TOKEN USAGE. BECAUSE WITH HAD WITH WE'RE DEVELOPING OUR APPS INTERNALLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH A LOT.

FINANCE. WE'RE LOOKING AT TRAINING THE STAFF THERE SO THEY CAN OFF LOAD A LOT OF THEIR ROUTINE STUFF.

ONCE THEY GET TO THAT POINT WITH SOME TRAINING WE'RE HOPING THEY CAN DO SOME PREDICTIVE BUDGET MODELLING, ALSO SOME APAR ANALYSIS. IT'S NOT TO SAY THEY DO NOT DO THAT NOW, BUT THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUT HANDS ON THERE AND LOOK AT IT. SO THIS WITH WOULD AUTOMATE THE PROCESS AND OF COURSE THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND VERIFY IT AND

MAKE SURE 2 PLUS 2 DOES EQUAL 4. >> WOULD THEY USE THAT TOO FOR IDEAS ON HOW THINGS CAN BE DONE BETTER, MORE EFFICIENTLY, BUDGET CUTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE?

>> WELL, AI MR. FLAG THINGS AND SAY, HEY, THERE'S AN ANOMALY HERE, OR IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A TARGET, IT COULD GO IN THERE AND SAY, WELL, THESE ARE THE TRENDS THAT YOU MAY NEED TO SEE SOME -- PUT SOME EYES ON THERE. IF THERE'S BEEN POSITIVE VARIANCES, IT CAN UNCODE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. AND THEN COMMUNICATIONS.

PROBABLY THE MOST COMPLICATED THING THAT WE'RE GOING TO TACKLE IN THE NEXT YEAR IS IT THE ADA, THE ACCESSIBILITY CONVERSION OF ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS THAT ARE ON THE WEBSITE.

IT'S INCREDIBLY COMPLICATED. IT'S FEDERALLY MANDATED.

IT'S GONNA BE A BAR. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT USING AI TO SPEED THAT UP. RIGHT NOW EVEN WITH AI ON SOME OF OUR MORE COMPLICATED BOOKS, YOU'RE LOOKING AT 10 TO 12 HOURS OF TIME TO MILWAUKEE IT ACCESSIBLE.

-- TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE. >> WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? YOU SAY 10 TO 12 HOURS TO MAKE IT ACCESSIBLE.

>> I ALREADY KNOW LEANNE USES AI.

SHE HAS A VOICE FOR ME. [LAUGHTER]

>> SO YES, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TALKING ABOUT ACCESSIBILITY.

IF YOU YOU LOOK AT THIS BOOK HERE, THIS IS PUT ON THE WEBSITE AS A PDF. AND SO EVERY SINGLE IMAGE, EVERY SINGLE CHART, EVERY SINGLE TABLE, EVERY SINGLE HEADER, TITLE, ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO WHAT WE CALL AN ONLINE SCREEN READER. SO SOMEONE THAT HAS VISION IMPAIRMENTS IS USING A SCREEN READER AND THEY'RE LOOKING OR LISTENING THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT AND SO THAT'S WHAT HE IS SAYING THAT IT COULD TAKE AI, 10 TO 12 HOURS JUST TO MAKE THAT DOCUMENT ACCESSIBLE. WE HAVE BUDGET BOOKS THAT GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2010. THEY HAVE TO BE PUT ON OUR WEBSITE. WE ALSO HAVE OTHER DOCUMENTS ON OUR WEBSITE FOR OUR FINANCIAL TRANSPARENCY.

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JUST ANY PDF DOCUMENT ON THE WEBSITE, WE'D BE USING AI FOR

THAT. >> SO YOU'RE USING AI TO PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE? CONVERT IT? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.

>> SO IT'S LINKED TO OUR WOULD BE SITE.

WE PUT IT ON A SERVER, THE PDF. WHEN'VE THEY EPP OPEN THE PDF AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT IT OR LISTENING TO IT IN THEIR BROWSER, IT MIGHT NOT BE ACCESSIBLE.

WE'RE TRYING TO AS WE MOVE FORWARD --

>> IS IT TODAY THOUGH YOU'RE SAYING?

>> NO. WE HAVE SVRL SEVERAL DOCUMENTS THAT ARE NOT. AS WE'RE PUTTING NEW DOCUMENTS ON THE WEBSITE WE'RE WORKING TO FIX THE ACCESSIBILITY ISSUES BEFORE THEY GET TO US. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S TRAINING AND THAT'S MAKING SURE YOU'RE DOING CERTAIN THINGS IN WORD.

AND YOU MIGHT EVEN MISS THINGS. AS YOU'RE DOING THAT.

SO WE'LL USE AI TO MAKE SURE TO DO THAT.

>> TO DO THAT FASTER? THAT'S WHAT I'M WONDERING.

IS THERE A PROGRAM WHERE YOU COULD TAKE THAT PDF --

>>? BECAUSE THIS IS A FEDERAL MANDATE, THERE ARE SEVERAL SOFTWARE PROVIDERS THAT ARE PROVIDING SOFTWARE TO DO THIS SPECIFIC THING. WE'RE LOOKING AT AI AS A WAY TO DO THAT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THESE TOOLS.

>> YEAH. I THINK JUST SOME OF THE RESIDENT EXPERIENCE ON AI WOULD BE HELPFUL ON THE WEBSITE.

>> YEAH, THAT IS SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAT CLAUDE, THIS PARTICULAR THING IS NOT SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.

BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. >> YEAH.

JUST, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU FIND THE LATEST COPY OF THE SPLASH GOID FOR THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. AND TALKING TO CHAT, WHICH SOME PEOPLE MIGHT DO, BUT SOME MIGHT JUST GO TO THE WEBSITE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT USING AI. IT'S GOING TO SEARCH THE WITH WEB AND IT WILL PULL THE SPLASH GUIDE UP AND YUP, HERE IT IS.

IT'S THAT FAST. OUR WEBSITE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT PRETTY EASY. THINKING OF A LOT OF OUR RED LIGHTS RE, ESPECIALLY AGEING RED LIGHTS, THAT DON'T USE CHAT GPT TO DO THAT. OUR WEBSITE SHOULD HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY SIMPLE.

IT COULD SFRN IT FAST AND SAY HEY, THE BOARD MEETING FROM, YOU KNOW, MAY 5TH, 2014, CAN YOU PULL UP YOU THE AGENDA ITEM.

IT CAN PULL IT UP IN SECONDS. OUR WOULD BE SITE SHOULD DO

THAT. >> YEAH.

ONE ISSUE BETWEEN WHAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA THAT I'LL POINT OUT IS IT THAT ARE TWO DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES, SO THEY DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER RIGHT NOW.

WE'D HAVE TO WORK WITH A PROVIDER TO DO THAT.

>> ENGINE THERE'S JUST FIGURING OUT A WAY TO MAKE -- WE HAVE A TON OF GREAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE.

NAVIGATING IT, NOT EASY. AND I THINK THE ABILITY TO JUST DICTATE TO IT AND IT PULL UP THE THING YOU WANT TO KNOW WITH WOULD PROBABLY STAF A LOT OF FRONT DESK CALLS.

I DON'T KNOW. MAYBE.

BUT HERE'S A SPLASH GUIDE. SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO THAT TOO. OKAY.

I JUST WANT TO GET THAT ACROSS. >> WILLIAM, CAN YOU YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE. YES.

SO A. I IS SUPPOSED TO LOWER THE FTE COUNT IN TIME. SO WHEN I LOOK AT 30% OF REVIEW T IT SHOULD GO DOWN.

WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF MONEY INTO AI, BUT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE OFFSET BY THE FACT THAT THE HEAD COUNT GOES DOWN AT THE SAME TIME. SO I JUST WANT TO KEEP THAT IN MIND WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT.

I WITH WOULD THINK AI WOULD BE HANDLING MORE THAN ONE TO TWO

FTE'S. >> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE

TARGET. >> BUT I'M JUST LOOKING AT 30 TO 40% OF ROUTINE PROCESSING. TO ME THAT'S A LOT --

>> MAYBE IT'S A DECISION IF WE LOSE YOU A FULL FTE, WE SAY DO

WE NEED TO REPLACE AN FTE? >> THIS IS PHASE ONE OF THE -- I THINK THERE'S A SLIDE LATER ON THAT SHOWS WHERE WE'D EXPECT

THAT TO PROGRESS. >> OKAY.

>> BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. [INAUDIBLE]

>> AND I'LL GET TO THAT. REALLY, YOU LOOK AT THE PROCESS, NOT NECESSARILY THE PERSON ITSELF.

SO IF THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN AUTOMATED ENOUGH, IT'S REDUCED THE WORKLOAD OR WHATEVER. THEN THE REMAINING STAFF, WHERE THAT PERSON HAS MORE TIME TO DO XYZ.

THAT PERSON HAS MORE TIME TO ADDITIONAL STUFF.

OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALWAYS A REQUEST FOR NEW POSITIONS TO INCREASE SERVICES OR WHAT HAVE YOU.

SO AFTER PHASE 1, THE POSSIBILITIES ARE THE SECRETARY'S OFFICE AND RECORDS DEPARTMENT.

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FIRE DEPARTMENT. NOT TO SAY THEY'RE NOT ALREADY DOING THIS. WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THIS COULD BE AUTOMATED OR SPED UP. SO THE IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY RIGHT NOW, LIKE I SAID, IS WE'RE USING CLAUDE.

BECAUSE THE EXISTING SYSTEMS WE HAVE NOW IN THE GOVERNMENT FACE, A LOT OF THE AI PRODUCT ARE NOT THERE YET OR JUST NOT AFFORDABLE. GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS WALLED UP.

SO YOU DO NOT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY THAT A LOT OF THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAS. SO IN THIS ITERATION WE'RE LOOKING AT, LIKE I SAID, WE'LL EXTRACT THE DATA FROM THE SYSTEMS, RUN IT THROUGH AI AND THEN PUT IT BACK NO THE SYSTEMS. NOW, OVER TIME, IF OUR EXISTING VENDORS COME UP YOU WITH THE SOLUTION THAT MAKES SENSE AND IS AFFORDABLE, THEN WE'LL TAKE A

LOOK AT THAT. >> OR THERE'S OPPORTUNITY MAYBE TO SWITCH VENDORS IF ANOTHER VENDOR COMES UP.

BECAUSE YOU RENEW A LOT OF THOSE.

>> YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT. THE IMPLEMENTATION PROCESS TAKES ABOUT TWO YEARS IN GENERAL. IT'S NOT THAT AGILE.

UNFORTUNATELY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PLAYERS LEFT IN THE GOVERNMENT SPACE. THEY'VE KIND OF BOUGHT EACH

OTHER OUT OVER TIME. >> TWO YEARS TO IMPLEMENT A NEW

FENDER? >> TYPICALLY.

>> THAT'S HISTORICALLY VERSUS MAYBE TODAY, RIGHT?

>> THAT'S STILL GENERALLY SPEAKING.

BECAUSE AS MUCH AS -- I THINK I BROKE RECORDS ON IMPLEMENTING OUR EXISTING SYSTEM. BECAUSE ME TELLING THEM THAT YOU HAVE TO GIVE ME SIX MONTH OF YOUR FULL-TIME AND NOT LEAVE THE ROOM IS NOT REALLY PRACTICAL FOR THEM.

>> CHANGE OF MANAGEMENT IS THE BIGGEST FOR AI.

YOUR CORPORATE CULTURE APPLIES. YOU HAVE TO CHANGE AN ENTIRE CULTURE AND THE WAY PEOPLE DO BUSINESS DURING THE DAY.

SO IT NOT AN IMMEDIATE THING. ALTHOUGH WE'D LIKE FOR IT TO BE AN IMMEDIATE CHANGE. IT TAKES SOME TIME.

>> RIGHT. SO AI IS STILL GROWING.

THIS METHOD, I BELIEVE, GIVES US TIME TO GET THERE AND TRAIN FOLKS AND GIVES TIME FOR THE OTHER VENDORS TO PICK UP YOU THEIR PACE ON PRODUCT AND MAKE SURE THE PRODUCT WORKS.

I'M NOT IN FAVOUR OF BEING THE FRONTLINE OF TECHNOLOGY IN GENERAL IN THE GOVERNMENT SPACE. IF A PRODUCT HAS ISSUES AND IT FAILS, YOU'RE NEVER GETTING THAT TRUST BACK FROM YOUR USERS OR THE RESIDENTS. SO THE CASE AGAINST JUST RE REPLACING STAFF RIGHT AWAY. SO FOR COVENANTS, OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE YOU TO HAVE THE HUMAN IN THE LOOP.

THEY HAVE TO MAKE JUDGMENT CALLS IF THERE'S AN EXCEPTION.

SAME WITH BUDGET ANOMALIES. BOARD MINUTES, PRETTY SF EXPLANATORY. IF WE HAVE COMPLIANCE ISSUES THERE AS WELL. AND THEN LIABILITY.

IF AI ERRS, WITH HE CAN'T JUST SAY THAT HAPPENED.

TOWNSHIP IS RESPONSIBLE. AND USUALLY YOU NEED TO HOLD SOMEBODY ACCOUNTABLE TO MAKE SURE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN AGAIN.

SO THE HIDDEN COSTS, WE'VE SEEN THAT IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR. AI SOFTWARE, THE USAGE HAS EXCEEDED THE ACTUAL STAFF COST. THERE'S PLENTY OF EXAMPLES IN AMAZON, META, UBER. I THINK UBER SPENT HALF A BILLION IN THREE MONTH, WHICH WAS THEIR ENTIRE BUDGET FOR YEAR. SERVICE DISRUPTION.

REHIRING COSTS. BECAUSE IN MANY CASES, FOR SOME OF THOSE OTHERS, THEY STARTED HIRING THEM BACK BECAUSE AI JUST DOESN'T PRODUCE WITH WHAT THEY WERE HOPING.

IT'S REALLY FINANCE. THE MARKET WAS DRIVING THE CUTS FIRST RATHER THAN ACTUAL WORK HE FLOWS AND TRUE REALITY.

>> I THINK A LOT OF TIMES THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST JUMP INTO THE SHINY AI OBJECT WITHOUT CREATING ANY STRATEGY OR HAVING THE RIGHT PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE IN PLACE.

>> SURE. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE START LEAVING. AI TOOL FAILURES HAS HAPPENED AND THEN QUALITY ISSUES. OBVIOUSLY AI DOES HALLUCINATE.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO DIFFERENT APPROACHES.

IF WE FRAME AI AS A TOOL, THEN STAFF IS FREE FROM THEIR BASIC STUFF. THE STAFF IS IT MORE LIKELY TO ADOPT IT WILLINGLY. OUR INITIAL ADOPTION OF CO-PILOT WAS IN THE SINGLE DIGITS. RIGHT NOW IT'S IN THE 20% RANGE.

CLAUDE IS A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE SO WE'RE SEEING BETTER NUMBERS THERE. REDUCE HIRING NEED AND THEN REAL MEASURABLE ROI. IF YOU GO THE OPPOSITE ROUTE, THEN STAFF WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIST AND THAT'S NOT JUST HERE, THAT'S EVERYWHERE ELSE. FACEBOOK DOES A PERFECT EXAMPLE.

THERE'S ZERO INCENTIVE TO TRAIN AI MODELS AND IN FACT WE'VE STEEN, LIKE, IN FACEBOOK, THEY JUST STARTED FEEDING THE AI TOOLS JUNK. AND THEN THE PROJECT STALLS.

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SO MY RECOMMENDATION -- AND WE CAN CHANGE THE DATES A LITTLE IF WE NEED TO. BUT FIRST PHASE IS TRAIN THE DEPARTMENTS. RIGHT NOW I.T. IS TRAINING FOLKS AND THAT PROCESS IS SLOW. COVENANTS PILOT, WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. Q1 AND Q2.

FINANCE, AUDIT PROBABLE HAPPENS IN THAT TIME AND PROBABLY WON'T BE PAYABLE TO SQUEEZE IT IN THERE, BUT WE CAN SHUFFLE YOU THE AROUND THERE. P THEN PHASE 2 WE'LL LOOK AT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND THEN FINALLY PHASE 3 -- AND WE CAN TINKER WITH THIS TIME, BUT AFTER ONE OR TWO YEARS OF PROVEN RESULTS, THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION AND GO FROM THERE ON WHAT'S WORKED, WHAT HASN'T, AND IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ORGANIZATIONAL OR PROCESS CHANGES.

>> THERE'S PROBABLY AN AI ROBOT IN HERE IN 2030.

I MEAN, IT'S CHANGING SO FAST, SO QUICKLY.

I CAN'T IMAGINE GO THING OUR ARMS AROUND IT.

>> IT IS. THAT'S WHY I'M AVOIDING US PINNING DOWN A SPECIFIC PRODUCT, BECAUSE IT HAS CHANGED

DRASTICALLY. >> THERE'S STUFF WE'RE DOING TODAY THAT 60 DAYS AGO WASN'T AVAILABLE.

IT'S WILD. >> SO CRITICAL SUCCESS FACTORS.

OF COURSE WE CAN ADD THESE OR CHANGE. LEADERSHIP COMMITMENT FROM EACH TARGETED DEPARTMENT. STAFF BUY IN.

THAT'S PROBABLY A KEY PART. P THEN MEASURABLE METRICS.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS ACTUALLY WORKING.

BETTER APPROACH AND THEN PATIENCE.

IT'S A LOT OF CHANGE MANAGEMENT. >> THE ONLY THING I'D SAY THAT MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE ON THIS IS THAT -- AND LOOK, I UNDERSTAND WHY IT IS, BUT IT'S VERY INWARD FACING, VERY INTERNAL. HOW CAN WE IMPLEMENT SOME OF THESE EXTERNALLY TO OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR RESIDENTS, TO STREAMLINE THEIR COMMUNICATIONS, TO STREAMLINE THEIR SUBMITTALS, THEIR PERMITTING PROCESS, TO STREAMLINE THEIR PARKS RENTALS, WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO NOT FORGET THEY'RE PAYING THE BILLS.

THEY'RE THE TAXPAYERS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THINGS EASIER ON THEM. AND SOME OF THE THINGS WE ARE DOING INTERNALLY -- A LOT OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING INTERNALLY WILL MAKE IT EASIER ON THEM. BUT ALWAYS HAVING THEM IN MIND AS WE GO INTO THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.

>> JUST THE WEBSITE PIECE. YOU CAN SEARCH THAT AND FIND THE RIGHT INFORMATION QUICKLY. [INAUDIBLE]

>> COVENANTS I WITH WOULD SAY WE DO A REALLY NICE JOB TALKING ABOUT THE RESIDENTS SURVEY WE DO EVERY TWO YEARS.

I THINK EVERY PERSON THAT GOES THROUGH THAT SHOULD HAVE A SURVEY GIVEN THEM UPON LEAVING AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO DO IT.

THAT DATA THAT WE GET BACK IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT TO WHAT THE PROCESS IS. AND IT'S HARD TO READ SOMETIMES, I UNDERSTAND, BUT MAKING SURE YOU GET AS MANY OF THOSE SURVEYS I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT. IMPLEMENTING THAT AS SOON AS

POSSIBLE IS GREAT. >> WILLIAM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S POSSIBLE PRETTY QUICKLY? YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES WHEN YOU ORDER SOMETHING, RIGHT AWAY THEY'LL SAY IF YOU STAY ON THE LINE YOU CAN DO AN S SURVEY OR JUST.

JUST TO GET MORE REALTIME WHAT PEOPLE ARE THINKING, VERSUS AN

ANNUAL SURVEY THAT GOES OUT. >> SURE.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? >> THANK YOU YOU.

>> GOOD INFORMATION. THANK YOU.

>> THANKS, WILLIAM. >> THANK YOU.

BUDGET INITIATIVE NUMBER DOS. [LAUGHTER]

>> YEAH, THAT WAS A BIG ONE. WOOPS.

WRONG ONE. >> MONIQUE, I THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA WRAP UP TODAY, BUT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW.

>> I SEE THAT. >> YOU THOUGHT WE'D BE

COMPLETELY DONE TODAY? >> THAT WAS THE GOAL.

DANG IT. >> OKAY.

I'M READY. FIRST OF ALL, WE'LL JUST GO THROUGH A SUMMARY OF THE BUDGET INITIATIVES SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING UP THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH AND HAVE A PAGE OR SLIDE OR TWO FOR EACH ONE OF THESE. SO IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, MONTGOMERY SHERIFF'S OFFICE IS REQUESTING A MOTORCYCLE FOR THEIR MOTOR UNIT THAT IS DEDICATED TO THE TOWNSHIP.

THAT IS A ONE-TIME CAPITAL COST OF $50,830.

THEY'RE ALSO REQUEST TWOING UNDERCOVER VEHICLES FOR THEIR CRU, THEIR CRIME REDUCTION UNIT. AND 10LYDAR PACKAGES, BEING LIKE RADAR BUT AN ENHANCED VERSION OF RADAR.

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DR. GIBBS DID SUBMIT A BUDGET REQUEST, BUDGET INITIATIVE FOR A PLACE HOLDER TO SUPPORT MOBILITY PROJECTS.

THESE PARKS PROJECTS, A LOT OF THESE I MENTIONED EARLIER WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESERVE.

WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT. THERE WAS AN INITIATIVE SMIFTED BY ALPHA AND OMEGA TO INCREASE HOURS AND INCREASE THEIR RATED.

VILLAGE ASSOCIATION REQUEST FROM PARK.

AND THEN IF THE BOARD WOULD WITH LIKE TO CONSIDER THAT WATERWAY.

SO AS AN ARE REMINDER, THE FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE TO FUND BUDGET INITIATIVES, FOR ON GOING EXPENSES.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, THE POSITION REQUESTS FROM THE CONSTABLE'S OFFICE. THAT WOULD BE FUNDED FROM THIS 360 ONE WITH THE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO HAVE AN ONGOING COST EACH YEAR. MOST OF THE OTHER ONES THAT YOU SAW ON THAT LIST WOULD BE OUR ONE-TIME COSTS THAT COULD BE FUNDED FROM OUR 2026 UNDESIGNATED FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY ABOUT $3.3 MILLION.

SO FOR THE SHERIFFS, MONTGOMERY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT DOES BELIEVE THE TOWNSHIP WITH WOULD BENEFIT FROM ESTABLISHING A TRAFFIC UNIT MOTORCYCLE DEPUTY.

PARTICULARLY TO ENHANCE ENFORCEMENT OF RED LIGHT VIOLATIONS AND SPEEDING VIOLATIONS.

ALSO FASTER RESPONSE TO TRAFFIC CRASHES.

SO AS I MENTIONED, THE ONE-TIME COST IS $50,800 FOR THAT.

>> A LOT OF THE RUNNING OF RED LIGHTS THAT WE'RE SEEING INCREASE THROUGHOUT THE TOWNSHIP, THAT WOULD BE DEDICATED -- THIS WOULD BE DEDICATED TOWARDS THAT?

>> DEFINITELY. HE IS AVERAGING AROUND 160 TRAFFIC STOPS A MONTH RIGHT NOW. IT'S SO MUCH FASTER, SO MUCH MORE EFFICIENT WITH A MOTORCYCLE.

THE COUNTY WIDE MOTORCYCLE UNIT CONTACTED ME AND ASKED ME WHAT INTERSECTION I WOULD LIKE WORKED AND I SUGGESTED INTR STATE 45 AND SAWDUST. IN TWO HOURS THEY CONDUCTED 47 TRAFFIC STOPS, ALL FOR RUNNING RED LIGHTS.

WHEN WE DO THESE WITH TAHOES, IT'S A LOT SLOWER.

WE WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR TRAFFIC. WE CAN'T POSITION THE SAME WAY A MOTORCYCLE CAN. THE POSITION IS ALREADY FUNDED.

IT'S ALREADY A TRAFFIC UNIT. WE'RE JUST ASKING TO MOVE HIM OVER TO A MOTORCYCLE. HE'S ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THE TRAINING. AND CURRENTLY HE'S USING ONE OF OUR OLDEST COUNTY OWNED MOTORCYCLES RIGHT NOW.

UNLESS IT'S APPROVED BY THE TOWNSHIP FOR THE FUNDING OF A

NEW ONE. >> WOULD THIS BE DESIGNATED SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP?

>> CORRECT. YES, SIR, IT WOULD.

>> AND WHAT LOCATIONS WITH WOULD IT COVER?

>> ALL OF THE TOWNSHIP. IT'S WHEREVER.

SO SUCH YOU AS TODAY, A TRAFFIC COMPLAINT CAME IN, SO WE SENT IT OUT TO ALL OUR UNIT THAT ARE WORKING, AND THE COUNTY WIDE TRAFFIC UNITS. SO THEY CAN ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.

SO HE'S ON THE E-MAILS. HE KNOWS WHERE THE PROBLEMS ARE AND HE GOES AND FINDS IT. [INDISCERNIBLE]

>> YES, MA'AM. PARKWAY AND GOSLING.

OUT OF THOSE, HOW MANY CITATIONS DID YOU HAVE IN ONE HOUR THIS.

>> IT WAS 47 TRAFFIC STOPS. I'M SURE THEY ISSUED MULTIPLE CITATIONSICS NO INSURANCE, DRIVER'S LICENSE.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION. HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE DRIVER'S LICENSE OR EXPIRED DRIVER'S LICENSE AND HOW MANY DO NOT HAVE INSURANCE. AND ARE YOU PICKING UP DRUGS? ARE YOU PICKING UP OTHER ILLEGAL DRIVING -- LIKE, HERE ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY. ALL OF THAT STUFF.

IS THAT HAPPENING ALONG WITH YOUR --

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE HAD A TRAFFIC STOP I BELIEVE IT WAS TWO MONTH AGO WHEN WE WERE DOING THE RED LIGHT INITIATIVE. SO THE DEPUTY WAS WORKING I BELIEVE OP DUTY NOT OVER TIME. AND HE CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STOP, MADE THREE ARRESTS. TWO OF THEM WERE A WARRANT SERVICE. THIS HAD LOCAL WARRANTS OUT OF MONTGOMERY COUNTY AND A LARGE AMOUNT OF ILLEGAL -- I'M NOT GOING TO CALL IT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS, BUT YOU THE COUNTERFEIT PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THAT EITHER HAD METH FETE MEAN OR THE PENALTY NIL INSIDE THEM AND A LARGE QUANTITY SO. WE'RE KWETING CRIMINAL ARRESTS ALSO MULTIPLE OTHER VIOLATIONS OTHER THAN THE PRESENT ONE WITH, WHICH IS THE TRAFFIC WE STOPPED THEM FOR.

WHETHER IT BE IN DRIVER'S LICENSE OR INSURANCE.

>> OKAY. >> ONE MORE CLARIFYING QUESTION.

SO THIS OFFICER IS ALREADY OPERATING IN THE TOWNSHIP?

>> CORRECT. HE'S A TRAFFIC UNIT.

>> HE'D JUST BE MOVING FROM A TAHOE TO A MOTORCYCLE.

>> CORRECT. AND WHAT WOULD HAPPEN, IS

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>> I LIKE THIS IDEA. >> WHAT'S THE COST FOR THE

VEHICLE? >> A LITTLE OVER $50,000.

>> WHAT KIND OF MOTORCYCLE IS IT?

>> BMW I BELIEVE. [LAUGHTER]

>> ADAM. WHY KIND IS IT? IS THERE A PICTURE? NO, I'M JUST JOKING.

>> WE'RE ALSO REQUESTING TWO UNDERCOVER VEHICLES FOR OUR CRIME REDUCTION UNIT. IT'S A PATROL-BASED INVESTIGATIVE UNIT. SO SOMETIMES THEY'RE IN A MARKED PATROL CAR. SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.

THEYED INTO TO BLEND IN WITH THE PUBLIC T NORMAL MOTORING PUBLIC.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUY A MERCEDES OR BENTLEY OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR.

WE'RE ASKING FOR JUST A REGULAR CHEVROLET, A TOYOTA, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. AND THEY GO OUT AND DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS. WE DO A LOT OF RETAIL THEFT INITIATIVES. WE HAD ONE THAT WAS FOUR DAYS I BELIEVE TWO WEEKS AGO, NETTED 27 ARRESTS.

THESE ARE THE VEHICLES. THEY IMMEDIATE TO PARK IN THE PARKING LOTS SO THEY CAN WATCH PEOPLE COME OUT AND THIS HELPS OUT WHEN THEY DO HAVE OPERATIONS SUCH AS THAT.

>> ALL RIGHT. FOR THE MILLIONS WATCHING AT HOMES, ADAM, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR FIRST ONE WITH YOU, WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM ALL AND TALK ABOUT THEM LATER.

SO NO DECISION WILL BE MADE IMMEDIATELY.

>> THE LYDAR ST. SOL CURRENTLY WE HAVE DOPPLER RADARS INSIDE THE VEHICLES. THEY STAY INSIDE THE VEHICLES.

THE LIDAR IS A LASER RADAR. SO BASICALLY IT'S LIKE TAKING A LASER POINTER AND POINTING IT AT A VEHICLE.

SO YOU CAN'T MESS UP ON THAT AS FAR AS WHICH VEHICLE IT IS.

THEY'RE HAND HELD, BATTERY OPERATED SO YOU CAN USE THEM A LOT MORE EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.

WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE IN PLACE.

SOME OF THEM ARE GETTING OLD, PLUS IT WILL GIVE US NEW ONES OUT ON THE ROADWAY SO MORE OFFICERS OR DEPUTIES WILL HAVE THEM. VERY EFFECTIVE.

WHERE IT'S TOUGH TO GET A PATROL CAR.

>> JUST CURIOUS, HOW IS THE MARKET OUT THERE TALKING ABOUT TECHNOLOGY. YOU KNOW, WHO'S PLAYING CATCH UP WITH, LIKE, RADAR DETECTORS THAT PEOPLE WITH WOULD BUY.

>> I GET THAT QUESTION A LOT. I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT RADAR

DETECTORS. >> OKAY.

[LAUGHTER] >> DO YOU HAVE ONE IN YOUR CAR?

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP. >> I'M JUST SAYING, NOT FOR ME, BUT, YOU KNOW, ASKING FOR A FRIEND.

>> ABSOLUTELY. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY , THOSE WERE THE THREE REARE QUESTS FROM THE MONTGOMERY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE. THIS ONE WITH YOU IS FROM CONSTABLE GABLE'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.

FOR A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE. [INAUDIBLE]

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

>> SO WE'RE ASKING FOR AN ARE REPLACEMENT VEHICLE FOR ONE OF OUR DETECTIVES. I BELIEVE HE'S OPERATING RIGHT NOW A 2017 OR 2018 FORD EXPLORER.

WE'VE KEPT IT FOR A WHILE. MILEAGE IS WELL OVER 100,000.

SO WE'RE LOOKING -- THE MAINTENANCE COSTS ARE STACKIC UP ON US FOR THAT ONE WITH. WE'RE LOOKING AT GETTING HIM A REPLACEMENT VEHICLE FOR HIS OPERATION.

AND THE SECOND ASK THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS A SERGEANT POSITION. CURRENTLY THE TOWNSHIP YOU GUYS PARTNER WITH US AND FUND SIX OF OUR DETECTIVES.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN OVERVIEW, THERE'S 11 PERSONNEL TOTAL IN OUR CID. SO WE HAVE ONE SERGEANT THAT SUPERVISES TEN DETECTIVES AND ONE CRIME ANALYST, AS WELL AS TWO CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATORS TO SUPPORT OUR CID.

THE SERGEANT THAT WE HAVE NOW, HE'S, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE SIXTH DETECTIVE THAT YOU GUYS FUND, THEY OPERATE AT A HIGH LEVEL. THE CASES THAT THEY INVESTIGATE.

20 TO 35 A PIECE. THEY TYPICALLY LAST THREE HE TO FOUR MONTH TO RESOLVE. SO A LOT OF DATA THERE THAT HE HAS TO LOOK OVER AND APPROVE AND MAKE SURE THE CASES KEEP MOVING

FORWARD. >> SO YOU HAVE 11 IN THE SAFE HARBOUR RIGHT NOW? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT?

CID? >> CORRECT.

THE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS DEPARTMENT.

>> AND HE WE -- AND WE FUNDS SIX OF THEM?

>> YES. SO WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL SERGEANT TO HELP THE SERGEANT OUT THAT WE HAVE THAT'S BEEN SUPERVISING THEM FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW TO KEEP THEIR

OPERATIONS MOVING. >> ONE SERGEANT OVERSEEING THE

11? >> CORRECT.

THE OUTPUT OF THE WITH WORK THAT THE SIX DETECTIVES DO THAT YOU GUYS FUND IS EXTREME. WE'RE AT 228 CASES AT THE END OF

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SO -- AND THE SERGEANT WE HAVE NOW, HE'S ALSO APPROVING THE OTHER DETECTIVES AT THAT DO YOUR AGGRAVATED ROBBERIES, DEATH INVESTIGATIONS. WE WITH DO A BUNCH OF FINANCIAL

CRIMES, STUFF LIKE THAT. >> WHAT'S THE DUFRNS BETWEEN ONGOING AND ONE-TIME. CAN YOU BREAK THAT DOWN FOR US A

BIT. >> YES, SIR.

SO THE ON GOING WOULD BE THE ACTUAL SALARY AND BENEFITS AND WHATNOT THAT COME WITH THE SERGEANTET AND THE ONE-TIME COST WOULD BE THE STROOK AND EQUIPMENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

>> SO BOTH THOSE NUMBERS ARE NEEDED.

OKAY. IS THIS SOMETHING YOU HAVE PRESENTED TO THE COUNTY AT ALL IN YOUR BUDGET REQUEST FROM THE

COUNTY? >> WE HAVE BEFORE, BUT THOSE SERGEANT POSITIONS WENT TO PATROL TO SUPPORT OUR PATROL DIVISION. RIGHT NOW I KNOW IN THE COUNTY WE GOT APPROVED FOR ONE LIEUTENANT POSITION, BUT WE

UTILIZE EIGHT SERGEANTS. >> COULD WE POTENTIALLY GO TO THE COUNTY AND ASK SINCE THEY'RE IN BUDGET MODE RIGHT NOW TO SPLIT THIS COST WITH THE COUNTY, TO GET THIS POSITION FILLED?

>> WELL, I BELIEVE THE BUDGET HAS COME TO A CONCLUSION FOR THE

MOST PART. >> HAVE THEY?

>> YEAH. THEY'VE ALREADY REARE SOLVED THE BUDGET. -- RESOLVED THE BUDGET.

[INAUDIBLE] >> I'D LIKE TO SEE THE COUNTY

HAVE SOME SKIN IN THE GAME. >> THINKING ALONG THE SAME LINES, I KNOW Y'ALL ARE REALLY GREAT PROVIDING US WITH DATA, BUT I'D LOVE TO SEE HOW MANY OF THESE CRIMES ARE BEING COMMITTED HERE IN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. THINKING ABOUT THE FIFA ARREST

THAT WERE RECENTLY DONE. >> SO I CAN SAW CONFIDENTLY -- SO THE WAY OUR SAFE HARBOUR GUYS WORK, ALL THE AGENCIES THAT ARE AT SAFE HARBOUR WORK OFF A SPREADSHEET.

AND OUR GUYS ONLY GET THE CASES WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP, AND THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE REST OF THE PRECINCT AS WELL.

WE'RE CATCHING PEOPLE WITH CHILD PORNOGRAPHY HOARE IN THE WOODLANDS, DOWNLOADING, STUFF LIKE THAT.

TRAFFICKERS THAT COME UP, SOLICITING CHILDREN, REACHING OUT TO THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS AND WHAT NOT.

>> AND YOU'D BE HIRING A NEW POSITION PROMOTING SOMEBODY

THEN? >> YEAH, SO WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS HE WE LIKE TO PROMOTE FROM WITHIN.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE SIX DETECTIVES NOW THAT ARE EXPERTS IN WHAT THEY DO AND WE'D JUST HOLD A SUPERVISOR REVIEW BOARD TO SEE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN BECOMING A SUPERVISOR.

AND WE WOULD BACK FILL THEIR POSITION AND PROMOTE FROM WITHIN WITH AN INTERESTED EPP DEPUTY INTERESTED IN GOING TO CRIMINAL

INVESTIGATIONS. >> THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE MORE

MONEY THEN? >> CORRECT.

N NO.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. THANKS SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU. >> OKAY.

THIS WAS A REQUEST SUBMITTED BY DIRECTOR GIBBS.

AGAIN A $500,000 PLACE HOLDER OUT OF THE -- FUNDED OUT OF THE DIDS NATE D 2026 FUND AND POSSIBLY MOVED OVER TO THE TRANSFORMATION FUNDS. AND I'LL LET YOU PRESENT

DIRECTOR SEKULA-GIBBS. >> WELL, IT'S SIMPLE.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PARKING A LOT IN TOWN CENTRE.

AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY DESIGNATED MONEY TO THINK ABOUT IT IN THE FUTURE. IT'S JUST A THOUGHT, BUT WE KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE. SO I THOUGHT LET'S PUT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET SO THAT IF WE DO HAVE A PLAN THAT ACTUAL COMES OUT OF OUR MOBILITY HUB, OR A NEW CONSULT THAT COMES OUT AND TALKS ABOUT PARKING, TALKS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE FUNDS BALANCE.

WE DON'T HAVE TO USE IT. IT MAY NOT BE USEFUL.

BUT AT LEAST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PARKING AND TRANSPORTATION

ISSUES AND THE TOWN CENTRE. >> I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

WE KNOW MOBILITY IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW, AND TO PUT A PLACE HOLDER IN, WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO USE IT, I

THINK. >> I AGREE.

ONE OF MY BUDGET INITIATIVES THAT I WANTED TO PROPOSE THAT COULD GO ALONG WITH THIS ACTUALLY.

WE KNOW COMING INTO OUR COMMUNITY, WOODLANDS PARKWAY, RESEARCH ARE THE MAIN ARTERIES COMING IN.

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THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US TO LOOK AT MOBILITY IMPROVEMENTS AND BEAUTIFICATION AND EGRES OUT TO I-45, GETTING CARS IN AND OUT. IT'S A GRIDLOCK.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON. SO I WITH WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A MATCHING PROGRAM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CONSULTANT COSTS, LIKE, UP TO $100,000 TO WORK WITH SHANNON DOA ON GETTING AN ENGINEERING STUDY, TRAFFIC PLAN DONE, BEAUTIFICATION PLAN

FOR THAT CORRIDOR. >> I THINK IT SHOULD BE BIGGER THAN THAT. BUT I LIKE YOUR IDEA.

I JUST THINK IT CAN'T JUST BE -- WE OUGHT TO LOOK AT TOWN

CENTRE -- >> NO, NO, NO.

THIS IS JUST A PORTION OF IT. THIS IS NOT TAKING UP THE WHOLE THING. ACTUALLY, I'M SORRY.

IT'S $100,000 TOTAL. SO $50,000 FROM THE TOWNSHIP.

$50,000 FROM SHANNON DOA. >> WHAT'S THE ROUTE?

>> GROGAN'S MILL TO I-45. >> THROUGH VISION PARK.

>> YEAH, AND COMES INTO THE WOODLANDS LT BUT IT'S JUST A

MASSIVE GRIDLOCK RIGHT THERE. >> I'M 100% BEHIND THAT.

BECAUSE IT FLOS FLOWS INTO AND OUT OF THE HOSPITAL.

PAST PINE CROFT. WHEN YOU'RE AT TRAUMA CENTRE AND YOU HAVE SO MUCH TRAFFIC IN FRONT OF IT, THAT'S A PLACE THAT RALLY NEEDS TO BE TAKEN A LOOK AT.

>> WELL, THAT IS SEPARATE. NOW YOU THAT I I HEAR AND UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S NOT TOWN CENTRE.

>> ARE YOU PROPOSING, BRAD, THAT THAT $50,000 COULD COME OUT

OF THIS? >> YES HE .

>> OKAY. THAT'S FINE, BUT I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO FOCUS ON TOWN CENTRE.

>> IT'S YOUR AGENDA. I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOUR

MONEY. >> HOW ABOUT IF WE ADD IT TO IT?

>> DO WE KNOW WHAT IT WOULD COST -- I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOING TO COST THAT MUCH FOR A CONSULTANT?

>> NO. THEY'LL PAY $50,000, WE'D PAY

$50,000. >> THEY ALREADY HAVE A PLAN?

>> THEY'D HIRE A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT IT.

ING IN HAS BEEN DONE. I'D LIKE TO ENTER INTO TALKS.

I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT AMOUNT. THEY DON'T.

BUT LOOKING AT THAT, IT'S ONE OF YOU OUR THREE MAIN ARTERIES GETTING IN AND OUT AND IT IS A NIGHTMARE.

I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT. I'LL PROPOSE IT IN A LATER BUDGET INITIATIVE. I WANT HERS TO GO.

>> IT IS TRANSPORTATION-RELATED.

AND THERE MAY BE OTHER FUNDS AVAILABLE.

I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE BEAUTIFICATION PART.

BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT AND WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.

BUT IF MY THOUGHT, THIS WAS TOWN CENTRE FOCUSSED.

>> OKAY , NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? MOVING ON TO NUMBER 8. NUMBER 7.

>> THE GR OGROGANS MILL NATURE TRAIL PATHWAY.

IN FK IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.

YOU REMEMBER EARLIER THIS YEAR YOU APPROVED FUNDING TO HE HELP WITH THE TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR THE PATHWAY OVER THERE.

AT THAT TIME, YOU ALSO ASKED THAT WE START LOOKING AT A PERMANENT SOLUTION. AND SO WHAT WE ARE ASKING FOR IS IT $100,000 TO DO AN ENGINEERING STUDY TO HELP US WITH THAT PERMANENT SOLUTION. AGAIN, REALLY ALREADY KIND OF APPROVED THIS BEFORE, BUT I MISSED GETTING IT IN THE BUDGET, SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT BACK AS A BUDGET INITIATIVE.

>> OKAY. >> HERE'S THE MAP.

I THINK Y'ALL REMEMBER WHERE WHERE THE AREA WE'RER TALKING ABOUT IS. OKAY.

AND I'M GOING TO TURN THIS OVER TO CHRIS TO TALK ABOUT SOME

PARKS AND REC. >> WILLIAM'S AI PROJECT, IT'S

NUMBER 9, CORRECT? >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THE NEXT THREE I WANT TO STAY PROJECTS ARE REQUESTED TO BE FUNDED FROM THE 2022 ASSESSMENT HE ARE SERVE.

SHUMARD OAK PARK, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES AGAIN WHEN PARKS ARE ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED, THEY'RE DEVELOPED BY THE WOODLANDS DEVELOPMENT HOWARD HUGHES. AND WE SEE A PLAY GROUND DEFICIENCY IN THAT AREA. WITH LIKE TO KEEP OUR PLAY GROUNDS, YOU KNOW, A 10-MINUTE WALK FROM EACH NAKED.

SO WE'RE PROPOSING WHAT HAS THE MOST AVAILABLE SPACE.

SHUMARD OAK IS THE GROWN ICON IN THAT ARREST TO. PUT A PLAY GROUND IN THERE FOR THE FOLKS IN THE MAYBE CALLED EXTREME SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE PARKSIDE VILLAGE.

AND THAT IS A PRICE OF I THINK $20 $200,000.

>> NOT TO BRING UP A SORE POINT, BUT WE PASSED THIS KIND OF NICE IMPROVEMENT IDEA FOR PARKS IN CAPSTONE WIHEN WE

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SO MY ONE CONCERN IS STRU ASKED THE RESIDENTS AROUND HERE, DO THEY WANT THIS BEFORE WITH ALLOCATE FUNDS AND START TURNING

DIRT OVER ? >> UNDERSTOOD COMPLETELY.

NUMBER ONE IS WE'VE HARD ANECDOTALLY THROUGH RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA OF WHERE THEY HAVE TO GO AND TWO, IN THE NEXT OTHER PROJECTS THERE'S EXPLICIT INFORMATION ABOUT A MORE ROBUST PUBLIC PROCESS BEFORE WE GET STARTED.

SO THE MONEY MAY BE APPROVED, BUT WE WANT TO GET THAT BUY IN AND ACTUALLY I'LL REFER BACK TO LEANNE'S $10,000 AMOUNT IN THE COMMUNITY BUDGET FOR SURVEYS. THAT THAT MIGHT BE A PERFECT SOLUTION TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT HAVING A REHASH OF CAPSTONE.

>> AND IMPORTANT QUESTION, DOES NANCY KNOW ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL? VERY TRUE. [LAUGHTER]

>> YES, SHE'S BEEN MADE AWARE. >> THAT'S A HE RELIEF.

>> IT SOUNDS GREAT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST HAVE TO BE SO CAREFUL. BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PEOPLE LIVING AROUND THERE WHO THE LAST THING THEY WANT IS A PLAY

GROUND. >> EXACTLY.

>> YOU DON'T NO UNTIL YOU ASK. >> AND DR. SHELLY, WHEN WE'VE GONE BACK AND PUT PLAY GROUNDS NO PARKS THAT HAVE NOT, BODY BRANCH WAS THE LAST ONE WITH THAT REQUESTED, WHICH IS IN STIRLING RIDGE ARE. WE REALLY SURVEY THE COMMUNITY, SURVEY THE PROPERTY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT FITS BEST IN THAT LOCATION. THAT IT MAY NOT BE THIS, YOU KNOW, STEEL STRUCTURE. IT MAY BE SOMETHING OF HOW DO WE BLEND THE PLAY GROUND INTO THE ACTUAL ENVIRONMENT SO WE LESSEN THAT VISUAL CHALLENGE THAT SOME RED LIGHTS MAY HAVE -- STOP

RESIDENTS MAY HAVE. >> I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS. WE DON'T WANT TO SURVEY THE RESIDENTS UNTIL THE BOARD HAS APPROVED AT LEAST THE INITIAL CONCEPT OF SETTING ASIDE FUNDING.

THIS DOES NOT COMMIT OR AUTHORIZE STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS. THIS WILL COME BACK TO YOU.

SO THIS SIMPLY SETS ASIDE THE FUNDING, WHICH IS ALREADY AVAILABLE IN THE RESERVE. IT ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH EXACTLY WHAT DR. SEKULA-GIBBS SAID, SURVEYING THE RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE'D COME BACK TO YOU YOU WITH THOSE SURVEY RESULTS AND DEFINITIVE PLAN FOR THE PLAY GROUND.

>> SO THIS WOULD COME OUT OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESERVE, WHICH MY UNDERSTANDING WAS CREATED BASED UPON THE RESULTS OF A NEEDS SURVEY DONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO.

SO IT WAS ANOTHER PARK IN CREEKSIDE PARK, PART OF THAT RESULT? OKAY.

>> I WITH WOULD REMIND YOU, THE CAPSTONE BATHROOMS CAME OUT OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESTEFSH TOO.

IT WAS SO DIFFICULT. >> I DID NOT HAVE THE PLEASURE.

>> YEAH. SO THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT RESERVE IS A GENERAL DOCUMENT. IT MAY NOT -- THERE MAY NOT EVEN HAVE BEEN ANY PARTICULAR COMMENT THAT SAID WE WANT A PLAYGROUND IN THOSE PARKS. BUT IN KIND OF GENERAL IT WAS WE NEED MORE PLAY GROUNDS. I'M GUESSING.

AND THAT'S HOW IT W WOULD. IT'S OKAY.

BUT BE CAREFUL. >> IT ALSO PART OF THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ANALYSIS. TO MAKE SURE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT OUR SYSTEM, PARKS STM IS BASICALLY THE MODEL THAT EVERYBODY STRIVES TO, IS HAVING CONSISTENT ACCESS TO FACILITIES WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE TO THEIR HOME.

AND WHEN WE LOOK AT THIS THROUGH THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT LENS, ONE OF THE LEVEL ITEMS THAT POPPED UP FOR US WAS WITH THE FACT THAT THERE WASN'T PLAYGROUNDS IN THAT SOUTHWEST CORNER OF THE

COMMUNITY. >> OKAY.

>> SO I'M SORRY, ONE LAST QUESTION.

CAN WE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE. SO IT COULD BE WE APPROVE THIS EARMARK 200,000, AND THEN WE GO ASK THE FOLKS OF SHUMARD OAK PARK AND THEY SAY NO, THEN MAYBE WE ASK THE MONARCH POND FOLKS.

>> CORRECT. CORRECT.

AND THEN AGAIN, PUBLIC PROCESS, IT ALL COMES BACK TO THE BORED AS WE TAKE ALL THE PLAY GROUNDS TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BECAUSE OF THE CAPITAL EXPENDITURES BEING OVER

$100,000. >> SO IF WE DIDN'T PUT IT THERE, WHERE WITH WOULD IT GO? IF WE DIDN'T DO THIS, WHERE ELSE WOULD YOU TRANSFER THAT $200,000?

BESIDES THESE PARKS. >> HE HAS A BUNCH OF OTHER

BUDGET INITIATIVES. >> IT WOULD JUST MAINTAIN

BALANCE. >> OKAY.

BUT IT IS USABLE. >> IF WE DO NOT GET A POSITIVE RESPONSE FROM THOSE TWO PARKS, BASICALLY THEY'VE CONFIRMED THAT THEY DON'T NEED THAT LEVEL OF CTVS AND WE MOVE ON AND THAT $200,000 GETS FREED UP AS WAS INDICATED.

>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT UP.

>> ALL RIGHT. ANOTHER THING TOO WE LOOKED AT

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IT'S THE ONLY VILLAGE PARK THAT DOES NOT HAVE A BASKETBALL COURT. BACK IN 2003 THAT BASKETBALL COURT WAS ACTUALLY CUT FROM THE ORIGINAL PROJECT DUE TO FUNDING CONCERNS. AND SO RIGHT NOW YOU THERE ARE ONE OF THE LARGEST VILLAGES, THERE'S ONLY TWO BASKETBALL COURTS. AND TRYING TO LOCATE THAT IN THERE, IT IS NOT NEAR ANY RESIDENTS.

IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT NEAR A SCHOOL.

THE SCHOOL'S BASKETBALL COURT IS ACTUALLY LOCKED UP.

SO FROM AN ACCESS STAND POINT, THIS GIVES THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO BASKETBALL COURTS MORE FREQUENTLY.

IT IS $225,000. THAT IS THE BASKETBALL COURT THAT IS STANDARD, AS WELL AS LIGHTING SYSTEMS AND PATHWAYS THAT WILL LEAD TO THE BASKETBALL COURTS YOU CAN SEE IN THE MOCK

UP THERE. >> YOU COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER SPOT THAT DIDN'T HAVE ALL THOSE TREES?

>> WELL, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU WHAT'S NEXT TOO.

I DO APPRECIATE THAT. WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE AT THAT PARK. ACTUALLY, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE IN MANY OF OUR PARKS TO ADD MORE AMENITIES.

WITH YOUR PERMISSION I WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT ASPECT, CRANEBROCK PARK PUMP TRACK. THIS IS AN AMENITY.

I THINK DIRECTOR LAMB WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT E-BIKES AT ONE WITH POINT THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX MONTHS AGO SADZ, YOU KNOW, COULD WE CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS A PUMP TRACK.

ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD AT CRANEBROOK OVER THE YEARS IS THE BMX PARK, WHICH IS WHAT THIS WOULD REPLACE.

WE'RE REPLACING A LIKE AMENITY WITH A BETTER AMENITY.

THE ORIGINAL BMX PARK WAS JUST A DIRT TRACK.

WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING OVER 20 YEARS TO MAKE THIS A GREAT AMENITY. AND IT JUST A CHALLENGE BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT'S BEEN BUILT AND MAINTAINED.

BECAUSE IT'S A DIRT TRACK. THIS WOULD BE AN ASPHALT BASE TRACK, AND IT IS -- IT WAS IN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND WE'RE FIGURING WITH SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS COMMENTS THAT THIS MAY BE A GOOD SOLUTION TO TRY TO ACTIVATE THAT ARREST AND REALLY GIVE A HIGH QUALITY AMENITY, AND THEN COMPLEMENT ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION TO SAVE DOLLARS WITH THE BASKETBALL COURT AS

WELL. >> HOW MUCH IS THIS?

>> $600,000. >> GEESH.

>> ARE YOU TAKING THE DIRT BIKE TRACK, THE BMX TRACK AND TURNING

IT INTO THIS? >> YES, MA'AM.

>> OKAY. SO THAT COSTS AN ADDITIONAL

$600,000? >> YES HE.

>> YOU MY GOODNESS. >> IS THAT TURF OR GRASS?

>> THAT IS GRASS. AND THE MAIN AREA IS ASPHALT.

THIS IS AN IMAGE TO JUST SHOW YOU IT'S NOT BEEN DESIGNED.

I JUST WANTED TO GIVE AWE FEEL OF WHAT THESE TYPE OF PUMP

TRACKSLY LIKE. >> YEAH.

>> WHERE WHERE SPECIFICALLY SECRETARY PARK?

>> IT'S LOCATED OFF OF WOODLANDS PARKWAY AND GO ALL THE WAY OUT YOU TOWARDS THE WESTERN PART OF THE COMMUNITY ON CRANEBROCK DRIVE NEXT TO TUFT HILL ELEMENTARY.

>> DOES SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAVE LIGHT?

>> WE'D PROBABLY PUT SOME LIGHT IN THERE TOO.

THIS PARK ALREADY HAS A FAIR AMOUNT OF LIGHT FROM THE STANDS POINT OF THE TENNIS COURTS. THERE'S FOUR TENNIS COURTS THERE. THE POOL HAS OVERHEADLIGHT AS

WELL. >> LOOKING AT THIS, FROM A MOM POINT OF VIEW, LOOKS A LITTLE DANGEROUS ON ASPHALT.

DO WE KNOW STATISTICALLY, ARE THESE SAFE FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES? I COULD SEE A BIKE BEING OKAY ON

THAT MAYBE. >> YOU ARE RIGHT.

THAT THERE IS -- YOU'RE MANAGING THE LEVEL OF RISK AND EXPERIENCE. I WILL SAY THIS.

JUST HEARING AROUND THE COUNTRY AS I GO AROUND THE COUNTRY, THIS IS NOT A RISK AND INJURIES ARE NOT THAT HIGH LEVEL OF A CONCERN WITH THIS. YOU ALREADY HAVE, YOU KNOW, 8 WHEEL FRIENDLY AREA SKATE PARKS. AND THERE'S ACTUALLY VARIOUS LEGISLATIONS, ACTUALLY STATE STATUTES, THAT ACTUALLY PROTECT THE TOWNSHIP WITH THESE AMENITIES, WITH WHEEL FRIENDLY

PARKS. >> WILL YOU GO BACK A SLIDE.

WAS THAT -- YEAH. >> SO THIS -- I'M SORRY, LINDA.

THIS IS, IF YOU SEE THE BASKETBALL COURT, IT'S JUST TO THE -- IN THIS PICTURE, NORTH NORTHEAST OF THIS.

THAT DIRT AREA. THAT IS WHERE THE CURRENT BMX IS, AND WE'RE REQUESTING FUNDING TO PUT THE PUMP TRACK IN THAT

AREA THAT IS DIRT RIGHT NOW. >> SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, IF WE DECIDE NOT TO FUND THAT $600,000, COULD WE EVER PUT THE PROPOSED BASKETBALL COURT UP YOU THERE?

>> WE CAN MOVE IT AROUND A LITTLE BIT TO THE DIRT AREA.

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THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE WHO USE THE BMX PARK.

I'VE BEEN OUT THERE A NUMBER OF TIMES BECAUSE I LIVE IN THAT AREA AND I CHECK ON THAT PARK EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE.

IT'S A LOT JUST JOYRIDING, 3, 5, 7-YEAR-OLDS THAT ARE JUST, LIKE, MOM OR DAD IS WATCHING THEM JUST GO UP AND DOWNHILLS.

BECAUSE WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE HILLS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

>> YEAH. >> I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT THE OPPORTUNITY. HOW WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM TO BUILD SOME OF THESE BASKETBALL COURTS AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR AMENITIES.

THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO TEAR DOWN TREES.

IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN USE, THEY CAN USE DURING THE SCHOOL SEASON. BUT WHENEVER IT'S NOT, THE TOWNSHIP CAN USE IT. I MEAN, IT'S BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THE TAXPAYERS MONEY. I'D LIKE TO SEE US YOU LOOK AT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THIS INSTEAD OF PLOWING DOWN TREES AND JUST PARTNERING. I THINK THERE'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY ANDENING IT WOULD SERVE THE GREATER GOOD OF THE

COMMUNITY. >> OKAY.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> AND THE NEXT ONE, CREEKWOOD PARK SKATE PARK RENOVATION. THIS IS NOT PART OF THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. THIS IS A ONE-TIME COST.

THE PARK WAS ORIGINALLY INSTALLED IN 2003.

WE ARE REALLY AT THE END OF THE USEFUL LIFE OF MANY OF THOSE AMENITIES AND ARE SEEKING TO IMPROVE THAT AREA.

THIS IS HONESTLY ONE OF THE MORE USED SKATE PARKS IN THE AREA.

RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK.

>> ALSO SAFER. JUST SAYING. >> SAFE DOESN'T MEAN FUN THOUGH. [LAUGHTER]

>> COULD THIS BE FUNDED FROM NEEDS ASSESSMENT?

>> WE COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH MONIQUE ON THAT IF THAT IS

SOMETHING THAT YOU CHOOSE. >> SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU KUDOS FOR BEING PROACTIVE IN ALL OF THIS.

THIS IS WHAT KEEPS A LEVEL OF SOMETHING WE OFFER TO THE COMMUNITY. AND IT KEEPS THE WOODLANDS WHERE IT SHOULD BE, TO ADD PARKS, TO CHANGE THINGS UP.

THAT WAS INNOVATIVE, WHATEVER THAT $600,000 ONE WAS.

I THINK KIDS WOULD LOVE THAT. I THINK SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS IT GREAT. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU SAID IT ALREADY ALMOST DILAPIDATED, LET'S BUILD IT UP YOU AND KEEP

IT FRESH. >> ESPECIALLY IF IT'S GETTING

USED YOU. >> YES.

>> I WANT TO SEE LINDA OUT THERE ON A SKATEBOARD.

>> I CAN DO THAT. I'LL BE WEARING A HELMET.

>> YEAH, WE COULD WORK HAND IN HAND.

>> DO YOU GET A LOT OF E-BIKES OR E-SCOOTERS ON THESE THINGS?

>> A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE SCOOTERS AND THE SKATEBOARDS, THEY'RE MADE MORE TO TAKE THAT IMPACT, WHERE THEY'RE GOING OFF THAT JUMP AND SLAMMING DOWN.

THOSE E-DEVICES ARE NOT NECESSARILY MADE TO HANDLE THAT

IMPACT. >> YEAH.

NOW, GOING OVER A LITTLE BUMP, THAT'S DIFFERENT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE GOING OFF RAMPS AND STUFF, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

>> ALL RIGHT. IS THAT ALL OF THEM?

>> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT.

>> WITHIN THE AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH ALPHA AND OMEGA CURRENTLY, THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE REQUESTS TO THE BOARD. EACH BUDGET CYCLE.

SO I'M PRESENTING THEIR REQUEST, WHICH IS AN INCREASE IN HOURS FROM 387 PER WEEK TO 425 PER WEEK.

THE 2027 BUDGET WOULD INCREASE $201,000 FROM A CURRENT TOTAL OF 1.5 TO 1.7. ABOUT # 50,000 OF THAT IS ALREADY BUILT INTO THE BUDGET WITH THEIR GENERAL RATE INCREASE. SO THE INITIATIVES WOULD INCREASE THE BUDGET BY $155,000. THEY'RE ALSO ASKING FOR A 4% RATE INCREASE INSTEAD OF TYING THEIR INCREASE TO CPI.

WHICH IS WHAT CURRENTLY IS IN THE AGREEMENT.

ANY QUESTIONS THERE? >> NOPE.

>> OKAY. DIRECTOR HEISER SUBMITTED THIS INITIATIVE WITH THE PANTHER BRANCH AND BAR BRANCH DRAINAGE PROJECT. DIRECTOR HEISER, DO YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS OR DO YOU WANT ME TO?

>> YOU CAN AND THEN UL ADD SOME POINT.

>> CHANNEL IMPROVEMENTS TO BEAR BRANCH AND PANTHER BRANCH, ALONG WITH TWO DETENTION PONDS. THE GOAL IS TO LOW INTEREST HIGH WATER ELEVATIONS NEAR LOCATIONS THAT HAVE PREVIOUSLY FLOODED THERE. AND THEN ALSO OBVIOUSLY TO PERMIT PASSAGE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

SO LARGELY BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT THERE AND HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BUT I THIS, THIS IS AT RESEARCH FOREST NEAR THE HIGH SCHOOL.

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MUD 67 WAS SUCCESSFUL IN SECURING STATE FUNDING IN 2022.

BUT THE ESTIMATE DID NOT TAKE ACTION.

IMMEDIATE COSTS HAVE INCREASED DUE TO PRIMARILY POST PANDEMIC INFLATION. THAT'S GROWN FROM $11.3 MILLION TO NOW A COST OF 20 OR $22 MILLION.

THEY'RE ACTIVELY AT THIS POINT ARE REQUESTING FEDERAL FUNDING FROM THE CORE OF ENGINEERS TO BRIDGE THAT FUNDING GAP.

AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE DO NOT KNOW IF THEY'LL BE SUCCESSFUL IN THAT REARE QUEST. AND DIRECTOR HEISER'S REQUEST, IF THEY ARE SUCCESSFUL AND WE DO GET FEDERAL FUNDING THERE WILL LIKELY BE A LOCAL MATCH. AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUT DIRECTOR HEISER IS REQUESTING WE SET ASIDE $250,000 TOP HELP MUD 67 AND WOODLANDS WATER WITH THE LOCAL MATCH.

>> RIGHT. SO TODD WAS WORKING ON THIS WITH ME. IS TODD IN THE ROOM?

>> HE'S NOT. HE'S OUT OF TOWN.

>> OKAY. SO THERE'S PRESIDENT DID NOT FOR THIS APPARENTLY WITH THE TOWNSHIP.

I'VE SPOKEN WITH ERIC RECENTLY AT WOODLANDS WATER.

WE THOUGHT THAT THIS PROJECT WAS PROBABLY ON A BACK BURNER.

HOWEVER, THE ARMY CORE OF ENGINEERS HAS COME TO US AND SAID THEY'RE GOING TO RELOOK AT THE PROJECT AND THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE FUNDED.

IF NOT WE'RE GOING TO FALL SHORT AND ASKED IF THE TOWNSHIP COULD PARTICIPATE IN THIS ALONG WITH OUR COMMUNITY TO PROVIDE WHAT WE CONSIDER AS REALLY HELPING OUR EMERGENCY SITUATION.

OUR EMERGENCY VEHICLES DURING A FLOOD.

AS WE SAW A COUPLE YEARS AGO. SO REALLY THAT IS THE NEED.

>> HAVE WE DONE FUNDING PROJECTS LIKE THIS WITH WOODLANDSES

WATER? >> HE WE HAVE TO A MUCH LESSER SCALE. FOR INSTANCE, WE'VE HELPED FUND FLOOD GAUGE STICKS, POLES. I THINK THAT'S THE LATEST ONE I REMEMBER. BUT THAT WAS AT A COST OF ABOUT

15 OR 20,000. >> HAVE THEY GONE TO THE STATE AND ASKED FOR IT? I KNOW SAM BROUGHT, LIKE, $68 MILLION IN FLOODING FUNDING TO HIS DISTRICT THAT WAS MATCHED

100% BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. >> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

AND WE HAVE NOT HAD REPRESENTATION TO ASK THAT FOR THE STATE IN THE PAST. BUT CERTAINLY MOVING FORWARD WE

COULD. >> YEAH, I THINK IT'S A GOOD

THING TO LOOK AT. >> YEAH.

TO DIRECTOR HEISER, THIS IS GREAT YOU'RE BRINGING THIS.

I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THIS P OHHING THE FLOOD GATES?

>> PUN INTENDED. >> RIGHT.

I'M JUST WONDERING, THERE'S LOTS OF PLACES THAT HAVE THIS GOING ON THAT EMERGENCY VEHICLES WILL HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THROUGH.

AND IF WE SAY YES TO THIS, WHICH WE MAY OR MAY NOT, WHO'S NEXT AND HOW MANY ARE AFTER THAT? AND HOW DO WE SAY NO TO THOSE IF WE SAY YES TO THAT? JUST A THOUGHT.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT. THIS ONE HAS BEEN TARGETED FOR YEARS. IT'S BEEN WAITING IN THE WINGS JUST AS THEY TRY TO GET THE MONEY FOR FUNDING.

AND WE'RE ALMOST THERE. THERE ARE NO OTHER PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE THIS. CURRENTLY.

>> SO UNFORTUNATELY, FOLKS WILL FIND SOMETHING SIMILAR AT THIS

POINT. >> COULD BE.

>> SO THE ASK WOULD JUST BE TO EARMARK THE FUND IN CASE IT DOES

GET FUNDING? >> JUST IN CASE, YEAH.

>> WHAT IS THE $250,000 FOR? >> IT WOULD BE PART OF THE LOCAL MATCH FOR WHATEVER FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING WOULD BECOME AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT. SO ONE OPTION IS TO EARMARK THE OTHER OPTION IS WE DON'T -- WE TRY HARD NOT TO GO BELOW $1 MILLION IN OUR UNDESIGNATED FUNDS BALANCE.

SO WE COULD ALSO WAIT UNTIL THIS PROJECT IS MORE FULLY DEVELOPED.

AND SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL NEED IS AND WHO THE OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS ARE THAT MAY BE FUNDING THIS PROJECT.

AND ALWAYS COME BACK. >> ARE YOU SAYING THE PROJECT

COSTS MIGHT BE $22 MILLION? >> WELL, WE'D ON ONLY BE PARTICIPATING AS ONE PARTNER IN A LOCAL MATCH.

>> SO THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE PARTNERS.

>> IT WOULD NEED TO BE MULTIPLE PARTNERS.

>> AND THIS ALREADY HAVE $11.2 MILLION I BELIEVE IN RESERVE.

>> SO WE'D MAYBE PUT IN 250, TO THE $11 MILLION THAT'S COLLECTED, HOPING FOR A MATCH FOR THE ARE REMAINDER.

I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, OKAY. >> YEAH, THERE'S OTHER PARTNERS

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I THINK A NEEDED PROJECT. AND I APPLAUD --

>> AND YOU'RE SAYING EARMARK IT IN THE EVENT THAT WE MIGHT HAVE IT. WE CAN GO BACK AND ASK FOR IT.

>> RIGHT. NOW, I DO LIKE THE FUNDING IDEA BRAD JUST SUGGESTED. THAT IS A BETTER WAY TO DO IT.

WE'VE JUST NOT HAD THOSE FUNDS IN THE PAST.

>> WE NEED TO LOOK AT STATE FUNDING MATCHED BY FEDERAL

FUNDING. >> AS DR. PETERSON -- NOT DOCTOR, BUT ENGINEER PETERSON, I'M PRETTY SURE HE'S GENERAL TO THE OTHER MUDS AND HE'S ASKED FOR THEIR HELP AND THEY'VE

DENIED HIM. >> SOME ARE PARTICIPATING, SOME

ARE NOT. >> I'VE HARD A LOT OF NOT.

>> SOME ARE. SOME AREN'T.

SO ... TO YOUR POINT. >> OKAY.

>> THAT'S IT. >> NEXT UP.

>> FINALLY, THIS IS THE CROOKSIDE PARK VILLAGE ASSOCIATION REQUEST THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY NAPSY NANCY BECKER. LARGE VANS FOR THE MULTI PURPOSE RINK. THIS RINK IS ACTUALLY IN COCHRANES CROSSING, NOT CREEKSIDE PARK.

BUT SHE DID REQUEST THESE. THOSE FANS WOULD COST -- WE'RE RECOMMENDING TWO FANS TO COVER THE AREA AT A COST OF $40,000.

THERE'S AN ADJACENT COVERED BASKETBALL COURT.

IT WOULD BE $50,000 IF WITH INCLUDED THOSE.

SHE'S ASKING FOR AN ENCLAVE AREA. IT WOULD COST ABOUT $75,000 TO COVER ALL OR A PORTION OF THE PLAY AREA. I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT PARK DOES CURRENTLY HAVE A PAVILION TO PROVIDE SHADE FOR THE PARK USERS.

A SIMILAR REQUEST WAS MADE FOR A SHADE STRUCTURE IN 2021 AT CREEKSIDE PARK, WILD CREEK PARK. AND IT WAS NOT FUNDED.

AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT IT WAS IN THE FUNDED IS THERE WAS BOARD DISCUSSION ABOUT APPLYING SHADED COVERS, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT DIRECTION. HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT UNIFORMLY ACROSS THE ENTIRE PARK SYSTEM. OR AT LEAST CONSISTENTLY.

MAYBE IF NOT EVERY PARK THAT YOU WOULD AT LEAST HAVE SOME SHADE STRUCTURES SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

IF WE WERE TO START GOING DOWN THAT ROAD, THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A MUCH HIGHER NUMBER, UP TO $7.2 MILLION TO START COVERING SHADE STRUCTURES. INSTEAD, WHAT WE DO RIGHT NOW IS WE HAVE SIGNAGE, AND EDUCATION ON USING PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT IN THE VERY HOT WEATHER OF THE SUMMER TIME.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY PLAY GROUNDS THAT HAVE SHADED STRUCTURE OVER

THEM NOW? >> WE DO.

WE HAVE SOME -- AT LEAST PARTIAL SHADE.

HOW MANY? EIGHT, NINE?

>> IS IT NORTH SHORE HAVE ONE? THAT'S THE ONLY ONE I GO THE

INTO. >> NONE OF THEM HAVE A FULL STRUCTURE, BUT WHAT WE HAVE DONE --

>> IS THAT WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED?

>> YES. WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WHEN WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THIS TREND, IS IT BLND IN VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF SHADE WITHIN THE PLAYGROUND STRUCTURE ITSELF.

SO THERE ARE ELEMENTS WHERE THERE WILL BE SOME SORT OF FABRIC COVER OVER A PART OF IT, BUT NOT THE ENTIRE PLAYGROUND, SWINGS AND SO ON. AND THAT HAS BEEN A BIG MOVE, WHERE JOHN'S TEAM, MICHELLE, OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER, REALLY HAS BLENDED THAT IN OVER THE LAST SIX OR SEVEN YEARS OF MAKING

THAT AN EMPHASIS. >> SO THIS REQUEST WOULD JUST BE TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN ANYTHING THAT EXISTS.

>> CORRECT. >> AND DOES IT CREATE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU GUYS TO, LIKE, ARE REPLACE PARK EQUIPMENT? I DON'T KNOW WHAT EQUIPMENT IS REQUIRED.

>> IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE THE UP FRONT COSTS, BUT I WANT TO SAY ON A SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A 7 TO 15-YEAR BASIS YOU'RE REPLACING THAT FABRIC.

AND THEN THOSE STEEL STRUCTURES HAVE TO BE REPLACED.

SO IT NOT JUST A ONE TIME FIX AND FOR THIS.

THERE WILL BE A MAINTENANCE COMPONENT AND MAYBE EVEN A POWER WASHING COMPONENT OF THOSE THINGS AS WELL.

SO IT JUST OPENS UP YOU PANDORA'S BOX.

IT NOT THAT THE CONCERN IS NOT IMPORTANT.

THERE'S ANOTHER ISSUE SPECIFICALLY ON THIS ONE WITH.

THAT STRUCTURE WOULD ACTUALLY RISE ABOVE THE FENCES AND BE A DIRECT LINE OF SIGHT INTO THOSE HOMES THAT ARE BEHIND THAT PARK

AS WELL. >> AND DR. NUNES, DUNLT WE HAVE A SIMILAR REQUEST LIKE THIS LAST YEAR?

>> WE HAD IT ON THE SPRAY GROUNDS.

>> YEAH. >> AND THE PARKS TEAM DID A GREAT JOB AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIED THAT MOST OF THOSE AREAS ALREADY HAVE SHADE. NOT DIRECTLY ON THAT SPRAY GROUND, BUT IN THE AREAS. AND WE DID ADD A SHADE IN BEAR BRANCH, OVER ONE OF THE PICNIC TABLE ARRESTS.

WE DID FIND THAT THERE WAS A DWISHTHSY.

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SO WE PUT THAT IN PLACE. WHERE IT MADE COMPLETE SENSE.

>> YEAH. >> AND THEN OUR LAST REQUEST HAD TO DO WITH PATHWAY SIGNS. SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO E-BIKES.

FUNDING -- WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

FUNDING FOR TOWNSHIP-WIDE INITIATIVE WOULD BE ESTIMATED AT ABOUT $2 MILLION. WE DO HAVE -- THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE TWO SIGNS AT EACH PATHWAY CROSSING.

WE HAVE ABOUT 2,500 TOTAL PATHWAY CROSSINGS.

AND THEN THE SIGNS THAT THE COSTS, HOW WITH -- HOW WE COME UP WITH THOSE IS AN ADDITIONAL $200 FOR THE INSTALLATION.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE ARE SUGGESTING THAT WE HOLD OFF ON THIS IS WAITING TO SEE IF THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHAT THEY DO IN 2027. WE'RE HOPING THEY DO SOMETHING TO GIVE US SOME RELIEF AND WE WOULD WANT THE SIGNAGE TO MATCH WHATEVER GETS ADOPTED. WE DON'T THINK IT'S TIMELY AT THIS POINT

TO ITCH ELEMENT THIS. >> BECAUSE WE'D HAVE TO DO IT

TWICE. >> EXACTLY.

THEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS. BOATS.

>> ALL WE NEED ARE BOATS. [LAUGHTER]

>> SO THAT CONCLUDES THIS PRESENTATION.

>> I HAVE A COUPLE MORE. JUST REAL QUICK.

I'LL FLY THROUGH THEM. YOU HEARD ABOUT MY PARTNERSHIP FOR THE TRAFFIC STUDY ON RESEARCH FOREST FROM GROGANS MILL TO I-45, ONE OF OUR THREE MAJOR, MAJOR OUTLETS --

>> IS IT A TRAFFIC STUDY? >> LET ME FINISH.

PARTNERING WITH THE CITY SHANNON DOA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COSTS WOULD BE, BUT I THINK ABOUT $100,000 TRAFFIC STUDY. WE PAY 50, THEY PAY 50.

TRAFFIC BEAUTIFICATION STUDY, GETTING CARS IN AND OUT IN A FASTER MANNER. THAT WOULD BE ONE.

>> WELL, I WILL TELL YOU, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF WORKING ON THAT. SO THEY'RE PUTTING IN A DUFRNT TURN LAN AND EVERYTHING WITH DAVID MEMORIAL EPP OPENING UP.

THERE'S A LOT OF CURRENT CHANGES.

>> WELL, WORKING WITH THEIR NEW CITY MANAGER, THIS IS REQUESTED.

WE'VE DISCUSSED IT AT LENGTH. IT WAS BROUGHT UP BECAUSE OF THE MASSIVE TRAFFIC BACK UP THAT YOU GET RIGHT THERE.

AND LINDA BRINGS UP YOU A GREAT POINT.

RIGHT IN OUR HOSPITAL DISTRICT. WHEN SECONDS ARE CRITICAL.

SO I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT THAT. MAXIMUM SPEND $50,000.

NUMBER TWO, THIS IS FREE. FREE.

COMMUNITY VILLAGE BEAUTIFICATION DAY.

WORKING WITH OUR VILLAGE ASSOCIATIONS TO CLEAR OUT SOME OF THE TREES AND LIMBS OF OUR PATHWAYS AND PARKS.

AS MR. CHRISTIANSON SAME AND DISCUSSED.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE AN A GREAT THING.

THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE COST WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

I'D LIKE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO LOOK AT PARTNERING WITH THE CITY A NEW FIRE STATION BY THE WOOD FOREST STADIUM.

YOU I KNOW THERE'S SOME INTEREST OF MAKING SURE THAT'S PROVIDED.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE US A LONG TIME BECAUSE I'VE BEEN HERE FOUR YEARS AND IT TOOK OVER THAT TO BUILD THE LAST FIRE STATION.

SO AS WE LOOK AT THAT, BUT PARTNERING WITH THE CITY I THINK IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EXPAND OUR FOOT PRINT.

DO IT IN PARTNERING SO THEY PAY FOR THE SERVICES.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VERY ADVANTAGEOUS.

AND THEN FINALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO REALLY, REALLY ROLL UP YOU THE SLEEVES, SOMETHING I KNOW Y'ALL ARE GOING TO DO WELL AFTER I'M DONE, BUT LOOKING AT FORMALIZING A PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENT TO ASTRO TURF JUNIOR HIGH FIELDS, HIGH SCHOOL FIELDS WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING TO TEAR DOWN TREES AND DO NEW MAJOR SPORTS PLEXES. ALL ACROSS THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP, BUT ALSO PARTNERING ON AN INDOOR MULTI USE PRACTICE FACILITY. I PREFER BEAR BRANCH PARK, THE CENTRE THAT HAS A/C IN IT. I THINK IT COULD BE -- OUR PARKS HAS PROVEN TO BE A MONEY GENERATOR.

BUT WITH TWO A DAYS GOING ON AND ALL THAT IN THE HEAT, IT'S HOT HOT. HAVING THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH CSD, IT COULD BE USED FOR LACROSSE, FOR FOOTBALL, SOCCER, IT COULD BE USED FOR ALL SORTS OF EVENTS.

I THINK IT WOULD BE A HUGE AMENITY IN THE FUTURE, BUT IT WITH WOULD ALSO BE USED FOR GALAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

THERE'S THE BUBBLE AT THE TEXANS STADIUM.

I'VE BEEN TO A GALA THERE THAT'S INCREDIBLE.

THEY PUT A FLOOR ON THE ASTRO TURF AND YOU WALK IN AND I MEAN, IT LOOKS MAGICAL. BUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT WITH A PARTNERSHIP WITH CSD, I THINK THAT WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL.

FOR OUR SCHOOL, KIDS IN ATHLETICS, AND I THINK IT TO BE A PROFITABLE VENTURE TO CONSIDER.

SO FORMALIZE AN AGREEMENT. NO COST RIGHT NOW.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU WILL, CRAIG HEISER, CINDY HEISER, MYSELF

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WELL, NOT MY FAULT THAT WE HAVE RESOURCES AND ABILITY TO DO THAT. SO THE NEW SUPERINTENDENT IS VERY WELL INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT THIS.

SO I'LL LET THE NEXT -- WE CAN START THAT NOW, BUT THE NEXT BOARD REALLY LOOK AT IT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT

OPPORTUNITY. >> THE BANDS COULD PRACTICE IN

THERE TOO. >> YEAH, LIKE, THE MARCHING BANDS. THE LIST GOES ON AND ON.

>> OUR POOR BANDS. >> THE INTEREST IS GROWING TOO WITH THE NEW UIL RULES AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE TEMPERATURE AND WHATNOT. IT'S BEEN VERY PROHIBITIVE FOR OUR TEAMS PRACTICING AFTER SCHOOL.

>> YEAH. AND THE BAND PRACTICES AT THE WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL ON THE BLACK ASPHALT.

EVERY AFTERNOON. >> YEAH.

>> AND THEN MY FINAL ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO DOUBLE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUDGET TO $600,000.

I THINK IT STARTS AT $300,000. I'D LYING THAT MONEY TO STAY IN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. THAT WE DON'T GIVE OUT TO OTHER PEOPLE. TO START LOOKING AT OTHER OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE CAN SELL OUR COMMUNITY AND DO THINGS TO RETAN BUSINESSES AND TO RECRUIT BUSINESSES.

WE'D BE A LITTLE MORE IN CONTROL OF HOW WE DO IT.

I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW YOU IMPORTANT OUR LOCAL ECONOMY DRIVES OP BUSINESS AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S RETANING AND RECROSS-SUIT -- AND RECRUITING.

SO HAVING THIS, WHETHER IT'S A MAILER GOING OUT NATIONWIDE, WE COULD PULL OFF THAT ACCOUNT. BUT PEOPLE NEED TO COME AND SIT, PUT THINGS UP ON THESE TV'S AND SHOW US WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO AND BE HELD TO ACCOUNT ON WHAT THEY DO.

BUT I BELIEVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS A PLACE WHERE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CITIES AROUND US, THE CITIES ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, WHAT THEY'RE DOING ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, TO THE SIZE THAT THEY ARE COMPARED TO US IS 100X WHAT WE'RE DOING. 100X WHAT WE'RE DOING.

SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT NEW YOU AND CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN GENERATE AND SELL OUR COMMUNITY TO FUTURE BUSINESSES.

BECAUSE THERE'S A HUGE OPPORTUNITY HERE.

AND IT DRIVES EVERYTHING THAT WITH DO.

BUT I WITH WOULD LIKE THAT MONEY CONTROLLED -- BUT I WOULD LIKE THAT MONEY CONTROLLED BY THIS BOARD.

I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. AND EVERYTHING IS OUT IN THE

OPEN WITH THE PUBLIC. >> CURRENTLY $300,000 IS THE

ECONOMIC BUDGET? >> RIGHT.

>> YOU'RE SAYING TAKE IT UP TO 600, BUT THAT'S WHERE WE CAN PULL FROM IF WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY WE WANT TO INVEST IN.

>> RIGHT. THAT'S HELD BACK.

THE OTHER IS THE EDP. >> THAT'S NOT HIRING STAFF OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. IT'S A POT OF MONEY WE'D NEED TO BUILD PARAMETERS AROUND FOR REQUEST.

>> ABSOLUTELY. >> GOTCHA.

>> AND THAT CONCLUDES MY BUDGETNESS.

I APOLOGIZE I DIDN'T SUBMIT THEM EARLIER.

>> I HAVE FIVE MORE. >> MY LAPTOP DIDN'T WORK FOR A

COUPLE WEEKS. >> THAT'S GREAT.

WE'LL GO BACK FROM HERE AND BE PREPARED TOMORROW THEN TO WALK THROUGH POTENTIAL BUDGET AMENDMENTS THAT I HAVE HEARD Y'ALL TALK ABOUT. AND WE'LL HAVE YOU VOTE -- THE BOARD WILL NEED TO VOTE ON WHICH OF THESE BUDGET INITIATIVES YOU WITH WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE. -- YOU WOULD LIKE TO APPROVE.

BE PREPARED FOR THAT. AND ALSO ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE TAX RATE TOMORROW.

WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO TAKE A BREAK AFTER Y'ALL TAKE THOSE VOTES SO WE CAN RUN IT THROUGH OUR MODEL AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WHERE WE STAND. AND I THINK WE NEED TO DO A

QUICK EXECUTIVE SESSION. >> YES.

WE DO.

[11. Recess to Executive Session to discuss matters relating to real property pursuant to §551.072, Texas Government Code; deliberation of economic development negotiations pursuant to §551.087, Texas Government Code; discuss personnel matters pursuant to §551.074, Texas Government Code; discuss IT network or critical infrastructure security pursuant to §551.089, Texas Government Code; and to consult with The Woodlands Township’s attorney pursuant to §551.071, Texas Government Code;]

DISCUSS PERSONAL MATTERS PURSUANT TO THE SECTION OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE. DISCUSS SECURITY PURSUANT TO THE INTERSECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, AND TO CONSULT THE WOODLANDS ATTORNEY MR. BRETT STRONG PURSUANT TO THE SECTION OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE. IT 11:45

[12. Reconvene in public session;]

>> IT IS 12:25 P.M. WE WILL NOT BE TAKING ANY ACTION AT THIS TIME. FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, WE'LL BE HERE TOMORROW AT 8:30. BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS, YOU CAN HOLD IT UNTIL 8:30. ADJOURNMENT.

DO I I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOUR RESPOND BY SAYING AYE. CLOSED.

MOTION CARRIES. IT'S 12:25 P.M.

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