Aug 18, 2026 Budget Workshop #2

[2. Call meeting to order;]

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>> IT'S 8:30 A.M., I CALLED THIS MEETING TO ORDER, BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUDGET WORKSHOP NUMBE. AUGUST 18TH 2026, 8:30 A.M.

I DECLARE ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW, POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THIS MEETING POSTING OCCURRED INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE TOWNSHIP AT THIS OFFICE BUILDING.

NEXT UP, REQUIRING AT LEAST FOUR BOARD MEMBERS BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR CONDUCTING BUSINESS. I ASKED EACH BOARD MEMBER TO INDICATE YOUR PRESENCE WITH AN AUDIBLE SOUND ACKNOWLEDGING I

CALL ROLL. >> AUDIBLE SOUND.

>> PRESENT. >> HEAR.

>> HEAR. >> HEAR.

[3. Receive, consider and act upon adoption of the meeting agenda;]

>> HEAR. >> A SUFFICIENT NUMBER OF MEMBERS PRESENT APPEAR ACTING ON THE MEETING AGENDA, PAGES ONE

THROUGH THREE AND THE ADOPTION. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RESPOND BY SAYING I. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? RECOGNIZING PUBLIC OFFICIALS. ARTHUR IS NOT HERE YET BUT I'M SURE HE WILL IN A MINUTE. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC

[11. Recess to Executive Session to discuss matters relating to real property pursuant to §551.072, Texas Government Code; deliberation of economic development negotiations pursuant to §551.087, Texas Government Code; discuss personnel matters pursuant to §551.074, Texas Government Code; discuss IT network or critical infrastructure security pursuant to §551.089, Texas Government Code; and to consult with The Woodlands Township’s attorney pursuant to §551.071, Texas Government Code;]

TO DISCUSS AN ISSUE. WE WILL NOT BE LONG.

BUT I NEED TO FIND MY DEBRIEF SCRIPT.

MOVING AGENDA ITEM TEN UP THE DOCKET.

DO I HAVE A MOTION TO DO THAT? >> SO MOVED.

>> SECONDED. >> ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? WE WILL BE RECESSING AS EXECUTIVE SESSION WITH 55107.2.

NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO SECTION 551.07 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS FOR THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND DISCUSS IT PURSUANT TO SECTION 551089 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE AND SECTION 55107 OF THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE

[12. Reconvene in public session;]

>> NINE '02 A.M., BACK IN SESSION.

IF EVERYONE CAN SPEAK CLEARLY INTO THE MICROPHONE.

[6. Taxpayer Impact Statement Notice in compliance with Texas Government Code Section 551.043(c)(2) [HB 1522]:   TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT     2025 Adopted Tax Rate**     2026 No New Revenue Rate***     2026 Proposed Tax Rate**   Total Tax Rate (per $100 of value) $0.1714 $0.1654 TBD Median Homestead Taxable Value*   $485,695 $509,335 $509,335 Tax on Median Homestead $832.48 $842.44 TBD]

MOVING ON TO ITEM SIX, TAXPAYER IMPACT STATEMENT IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 551.043 REFERRING TO H.B. 1522.

[7. Receive, consider and act upon the 2027 Preliminary Budget for The Woodlands Township;]

>> SINCE WE DID THIS YESTERDAY WE DON'T NEED TO DO THIS AGAIN

BUT THANK YOU. >> MOVING ON.

REGULAR AGENDA, ACT UPON 2027 PLENARY BUDGET FOR THE TOWNSHIP

LOCATED PAGE 4. >> THANK YOU.

THE FIRST THING WE WILL DO THIS MORNING IS ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS AT THE REQUEST FROM YESTERDAY AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON CONTINUING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW OF BUDGETS.

FIRST OF ALL, I BELIEVE IT WAS DIRECTOR MIKE GIBBS WHO ASKED FOR DETAIL OF WHAT WAS IN OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT LINE ITEMS. I WANT TO GO OVER THAT FIRST IN THE EXPENSED VEHICLES, WE HAVE TAHOES OF 18, THE GRAPHICS AND RELATED TO THOSE YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKOUT THERE.

ALSO THE EMERGENCY EQUIPMENT AND LIGHTING EQUIPMENT SO ALL ARE RELATED TO VEHICLES AND THAT IS AN INCREASE OVERALL OF ABOUT 108,000 OR 5.6% AND THEN AS WE TALKED YESTERDAY WE HAD A PLACEHOLDER FOR VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT THAT RELATED TO A POTENTIAL MOUNTED PATROL UNIT SO THAT WAS 704,000 AND THAT WAS THE INCREASE THERE. IN TERMS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT, EQUIPMENT EXPENSE FOR BODY VEHICLES, A DECREASE OVERALL OF 295,000. YOU'LL RECALL LAST YEAR THE TOWNSHIP FUNDED THE ACTUAL PURCHASE OF THE SYSTEM AND THAT WAS A ONE TIME PURCHASE AND NOW OUR OBLIGATION IS THE ANNUAL ONGOING SOFTWARE AND MAINTENANCE COST RELATED TO THOSE AND THAT IS WHAT YOU SEE THERE. THE BUDGET DECREASING BY ABOUT $300,000 AND THAT LINE ITEM AND THEN FINALLY HERE IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT EQUIPMENT EXPENSE IN THIS ONE, A TOTAL OF 255,000 WHICH IS A DECREASE OVERALL OF 114,000 OR 31% AND IN THAT LINE ITEM IS THE ONGOING MAINTENANCE FOR THE FLOCK

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ITEM. >> WOULD YOU PLEASE POST THIS SOMEWHERE SO THAT PEOPLE CAN HAVE ACCESS TO THIS AND SEND US A COPY? I DON'T HAVE ANY PAPER ON THAT.

>> NO. I JUST PREPARED IT LAST NIGHT

AND HAVE NOT MADE COPIES YET. >> I WANTED TO TAKE PICTURES OF

IT BUT GOT BEHIND. >> WE WILL GET YOU COPIES IN

EVERYTHING WE PRESENT. >> THIS IS VERY HELPFUL.

THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME.

>> ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUT CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT AND WHAT THEIR FUNCTIONS ARE AND THE DIFFERENT PERSONNEL THAT ARE INCLUDED THERE. I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE NAME CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT. I KNOW SOME OF YOU WERE NOT CRAZY ABOUT IT. I GET IT FOR US.

CUSTOMER SERVICE IS A CULTURE HERE IN THIS ORGANIZATION.

WE PREACH CUSTOMER SERVICE ALL THE TIME.

WE CONSIDER OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR BUSINESSES IN OUR VISITORS OUR CUSTOMERS. WE DON'T SELL THINGS TO THEM BUT WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEM WHICH IS WHY THIS WAS NAMED THIS, BECAUSE OF THE FOCUS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE.

IF SOMEBODY HAS ANOTHER NAME, WE ARE HAPPY TO HEAR IT BUT THAT IS THE EXPLANATION. IN TERMS OF THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE TEN FD, THE CHIEF ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICERS. THE DIRECTOR OF CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT WHICH IS ANGEL NIX, ADMINISTRATIVE ANALYST, SENIOR ADMIN ASSISTANT CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS, THREE OF THOSE.

>> BACK ON THAT, TO BE CLEAR, I WAS TOLD YESTERDAY THAT THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPRESENTATIVE IS OUR FRONT DESK?

IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT IS.

>> IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW THAT IS THE FRONT DESK OR THE RECEPTIONIST AREA BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MUCH CUSTOMER SERVICE,

IT'S EVERYWHERE. >> I WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND I WOULD NOT KNOW WHO THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ARE, IT'S VAGUE.

>> WE CAN WORK ON THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TRY TO DO TO MAKE IT LESS VAGUE IS WE HAVE THESE ORGANIZATION CHARTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET BOOKS AND HERE IS A FUNCTIONAL ORGANIZATION CHART FOR THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT DEPARTMENT SO YOU SEE HERE THAT IT IS BROKEN OUT INTO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, RESIDENT CARE CENTER WHICH IS WHERE IT LISTS THE DIFFERENT POSITIONS INCLUDING THE CUSTOMER SERVICE REPS AND WHAT THEY SPECIFICALLY DO AND THEN CONTRACT MANAGEMENT WHICH WE MENTIONED YESTERDAY, ANGEL IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MANAGING THE TWO LARGEST CONTRACTS IN THE ORGANIZATION WHICH IS OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT CONTRACT AND OUR

SOLID WASTE CONTRACT. >> HOW MANY CALLS DO YOU GET PER

MONTH? >> FIRST I WILL TALK ABOUT CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AS I JUST MENTIONED.

SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING $9.6 MILLION CONTRACT FOR OUR TRASH AND RECYCLING YARD WASTE. LAW ENFORCEMENT IS A $21.3 MILLION CONTRACT AND ARE MOUNTED PATROL IS A $1.5 MILLION

CONTRACT. >> IN TERMS OF OUR RESIDENT CARE CENTER, OUR FRONT DESK, THAT IS OUR FIRST POINT OF CONTACT FOR ANYONE CALLING OR VISITING THE TOWN HALL.

IT'S THE LINK THAT IS PROVIDED BETWEEN THE RESIDENT AND TOWNSHIP DEPARTMENTS. OUR MONTHLY VOLUME IS ABOUT 4200 CALLS AND 766 WALK INS. THEY ALSO DO PARKS WORK ORDERS ANYWHERE UP TO 200 PER MONTH PLUS THEY PROVIDE STATUS UPDATES ON EXISTING ORDERS, THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAVILION AND THE RESERVATIONS WHICH CAN BE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 20800 PER MO MONTH. SORRY, NO.

OUR PARK PAVILION, FOR RENT. THAT'S RIGHT.

ANYBODY WITH TRASH AND RECYCLING, THEY HANDLE A LOT OF THAT. STREETLIGHT EDUCATION, WE GET A LOT OF CALLS ON STREET LIGHTS AND THEN WHEN WE HAVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE, THOSE EMPLOYEES ARE AN INTEGRAL PART ABOUT HOW WE

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OVER 1500 CALLS. >> A CHOOSE YOUR OWN ADVENTURE? PERSONALLY, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THAT.

BUT IT'S NICE BECAUSE I THINK IN THIS AI WORLD SOMETIMES IT'S

SUPER FRUSTRATING. >> LIKE I MENTIONED YESTERDAY,

IT'S THE REASON LOTS TALK TO US. >> I THINK YOU SHOULD LIST THAT BECAUSE I KNOW FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCE THAT ONE OF THE BIGGEST CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE IS WITH THE STREETS, THEY DON'T LIKE THAT THE LIGHTS ARE NOT TIMED.

THEY DON'T LIKE THAT THE STREET LIGHT -- NOT THE STREET LIGHT BUT THE STOPLIGHT IS OUT. THEY WANT SOMETHING DONE THAT IS THE COUNTY'S RESPONSIBILITY BUT IT'S NOT THE TOWNSHIP AND YOU DON'T HAVE IT THERE, YOU'VE STREETLIGHT EDUCATION BUT THAT HAS TO BE A BIG PIECE OF WHAT THE FRONT DESK DOES.

IT HAS TO BE BECAUSE I HEAR IT ALL THE TIME.

>> THE AGENCIES THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT ASK THAT WE EDUCATE THEM AND WE PROVIDE THE CONTACT INFORMATION SO WE TRY TO

HELP THE BEST THAT WE CAN. >> IT'S ONGOING.

>> FOR SURE. ALSO WITHIN THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT DIVISION, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES.

ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES HAS 6.75 EMPLOYEES THAT ARE LISTED HERE.

VERY DEDICATED, TALENTED TEAMS AND IN THE MOST RECENT RESIDENT SURVEY IF YOU READ THE COMMENTS AND SAW THE RESULTS, THIS TEAM WAS PRAISED FOR THE PROGRAMS THEY PROVIDE.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THE PROGRAMS THEY PROVIDE RESULTS IN A DIRECT COST SAVINGS BECAUSE THE EDUCATION IS TO REDUCE CONTAMINATION IN OUR SOLID WASTE BECAUSE THAT CONTAMINATION, ONCE IT REACHES A CERTAIN POINT, THEN WE START GETTING CHARGED A HIGHER RATE SO THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON EDUCATING TO REDUCE THE CONTAMINATION AND WHEN YOU ALL SAW THE WASTE MANAGEMENT REPRESENTATIVES A COUPLE MONTHS AGO THAT CAME HERE, SHE TALKED ABOUT HOW LOW OF CONTAMINATION WE HAVE AND THAT IS DIRECTLY

RELATED TO THIS PROGRAM. >> IS THIS ALSO WHERE THE PROGRAM, DON'T LET YOUR WASTE GO INTO THE STORM SEWER, IS

LOCATED? >> YES, MA'AM,.

>> THAT HAS BEEN HELPFUL. I'VE SEEN RESULTS ON THAT AND I SEE THOSE TAGS IN A LOT OF PLACES.

DON'T PUT YOUR WASTE IN THE STORM DRAIN.

>> WE CAN RECYCLE PIZZA BOXES NOW.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. >> THAT IS MY MAIN TAKEAWAY.

>> THE LIST OF HIGH LEVEL, THE RESPONSIBILITIES, FOUR AREAS SUSTAINABLE, REDUCTION AND SURVEILLANCE AND EDUCATION.

I'M NOT GOING TO READ THROUGH ALL OF THESE BUT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR AND THAT THEY PUT ON. AGAIN WE RECEIVED A LOT OF GREAT

FEEDBACK ON THESE PROGRAMS. >> DO THEY HANDLE THE INVASIVE

SPECIES TRAINING TO? >> THEY DO.

>> I WAS SHOCKED AT HOW MANY PEOPLE ATTENDED THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE TREES ARE VERY

IMPORTANT TO YOU, SHELLEY. >> THEY ARE ONE OF THE TEAS.

>> I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT WE HAVE NEIGHBORS TO HANDLE THAT

BECAUSE IT'S A MONUMENTAL TASK. >> THEY ARE ALSO GREAT ABOUT PARTNERING. WE TRY NOT TO WORK IN SILOS HERE. WE TRY TO COMMUNICATE TOGETHER, THEY ARE WONDERFUL WITH WORKING WITH ADMIN AND VICE VERSA SO WHEN COVENANT ADMIN HAS TO GO -- IS ADVISING ON REPLANTING OR MAINTAINING THE STANDARDS, THEY WILL REFER PEOPLE TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES FOR HELP WITH THOSE PLANTING.

WE GET THOSE QUESTIONS A LOT. HERE THEY ALSO HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING GRANTS FOR CERTAIN PROGRAMS AND THEY ALSO ARE PART -- THEY MANAGE THE ARBOR DAY THAT WE HAVE EVERY JANUARY.

AND PLANTING NATIVE TREES AT THE FEBRUARY COMMUNITY TREE PLANTING. THEY DO ADOPT A PASS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS SUCH AS THE DRIVE THRU THE PUMPKIN SMASH SO A VERY BUSY GROUP. I WILL GO AHEAD AND DO THEIR BUDGET. ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES HAS A BUDGET OF $787,000. THIS YEAR IT'S AN 11000 --

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THE SALARIES AND BENEFITS ARE DECREASING AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE AT HIGHER SALARIES LEAVE THE ORGANIZATION AND THE NEW PEOPLE THAT COME IN TYPICALLY BECAUSE OF HOW WE DO OUR EMPLOYMENT AND PAY RANGES STARTING AT A LOWER SALARY THAN THE PERSON THAT EXPERIENCED IT. THAT IS WHY YOU ARE SEEING THE DECREASE THERE. WE ARE REQUESTING A PROGRAM EXPENSE INCREASE IN SUSTAINABLE LANDSCAPES AND RECYCLING OF $15,000 BASED ON ATTENDANCE AND REQUEST FOR THIS PROGRAM AND THEN WE ALSO -- HERE ARE THE DETAILS RIGHT HERE.

$6000 INCREASE THAT YOU SEE IS THE NEXT BIGGEST INCREASE AND THAT IS FOR A PAID INTERN. WE HAVE HAD THEM IN THE PAST.

THIS PAST YEAR WE DIDN'T. WE WOULD LIKE TO GO BACK TO HAVE A PAID INTERN ESPECIALLY SINCE THE CONTRACT FOR THE SOLID WASTE IS RENEWING IN 2028 AND SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PREPARATION TO GET

READY FOR THAT. >> HOW DOES OUR EDUCATIONAL PIECE OVERLAP WITH TEXAS A. AND M S. AGRILIFE EDUCATION? I REMEMBER WHEN THE FERAL HOGS WERE SUCH A NUISANCE FOR EVERYONE AND I ATTENDED TWO AGRILIFE PRESENTATIONS.

WHY DO WE -- I GUESS THE QUESTION REALLY IS, ARE WE TAPPING IN TO THAT ENOUGH SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PAY WITH OUR EDUCATIONAL PIECES WITH TOWNSHIP TAXES?

>> KAREN WILL HAVE TO ANSWER THAT ONE.

>> YES, WE DO. WE PARTNER WITH A NUMBER OF AREA ORGANIZATIONS WITH AGRILIFE, WITH THE WOODLAND SCREEN AND A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND FOR THOSE THAT YOU MENTIONED, WE ACTUALLY HAVE INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE THAT TALKS ABOUT IT BUT ULTIMATELY WE ARE SENDING OUR RESIDENTS TO BE EXPERTS RATHER THAN TO HAVE THAT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE

IN-HOUSE. >> THE QUESTION IS, ARE WE DOING IT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE $15,000 INCREASE MIGHT NOT BE

NECESSARY? >> NO.

THE $15,000 INCREASE IS REALLY SPECIFIC TO THE TOWNSHIP

EDUCATION PIECES. >> THANK YOU.

>> QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES? NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES HAS SEVEN FULL TIME EQUIVALENTS IN THEIR BUDGET. A MANAGER, TWO COORDINATORS AND THREE SPECIALISTS. FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS BUDGET. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDE, SERVICES AND PROGRAMS. THEY ARE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OUTREACH WITH SAFETY MEETINGS, LAW ENFORCEMENT AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ON SPECIFIC TOPICS.

THEY DO OUR SAFETY AWARENESS DAYS, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH AND DOG WATCH AND DOG WALKER WATCH AND OUR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT COORDINATED BY THEM. THEY ALSO PROVIDE EDUCATION AND PREPAREDNESS, READY WOODLANDS AND EVENT WE HAVE, SAFE AT HOME AND A BUSINESS WATCH AND THE CAMPUS OUTREACH SENIOR PROGRAMING AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE COORDINATED BY THIS TEAM AND THEN THEY ALSO ARE OUR VILLAGE LIAISON FOR EACH OF THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATIONS. WE ALWAYS HAVE A MEMBER OF THIS TEAM THERE TO ASSIST THEM AND TO PROVIDE A COMMUNICATION CHANNEL BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATION AND THE TOWNSHIP. THEY HAVE ALSO BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN OUR EDUCATION AND OUTREACH INITIATIVES RELATED TO RESPECT THE PATH SO AGAIN ANOTHER VERY TALENTED DEDICATED TEAM OF INDIVIDUALS AND ONCE AGAIN I'LL REFER BACK TO THE RESIDENT RESULTS WITH EXCELLENT RIDINGS IN THIS SURVEY FOR THE SERVICES. HERE'S A LOOK AT THEIR BUDGET, $795,000 FOR 2027 AND A $32,000 INCREASE.

IT'S ALMOST ALL IN STAFFING AND ONE OF THE REASONS FOR THAT IS THE REASONS THAT THEIR INCREASES OVER 3.8% BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEWER EMPLOYEES THAT MOVE THROUGH OUR RANGE SO IF YOU ARE HERE LESS THAN SEVEN YEARS, WE MOVE THEM THROUGH THE RANGE, SOMETIMES HIGHER THAN 3% SO THAT BY YEAR SEVEN THEY ARE AT THEIR MARKET VALUE, A PLAN ADOPTED BY THE BOARD.

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THERE WAS ALSO QUESTIONS YESTERDAY.

ASKING FOR US TO REVISIT THIS STAFFING INCREASES OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS OR SO, SO WE WANTED TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN.

THIS WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED LAST YEAR TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SO STAFF POSITIONS FROM 2016 TO 25 DID GROW BY 162 FTE.

YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASE THERE REFLECTED FROM 2016 TO 25 AND YOU CAN SEE THE BOTTOM NUMBERS ARE THE STACK PER CAPITA.

IN TERMS OF WHY THOSE POSITION -- OUT OF THOSE POSITIONS, WE HAD 44.75 OF THOSE RELATED TO -- THAT HAVE A REVENUE OFFSET SO WE INCREASED RECREATION BY ABOUT 38.75 AND DISPATCH BY 0.6 AND IT HAS A DIRECT REVENUE SO RESULTING IN AN INCREASE IN THE BUDGET. WHAT WE SAW COMING OUT OF COVID WAS PEOPLE'S VERY STRONG REACTION TO WANTING TO PARTICIPATE IN OUTDOOR RECREATION.

THE DEMAND WAS SO STRONG AND THAT IS WHY THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DID ELECT TO INCREASE -- TO REALLY BOOST UP IN TERMS OF RECREATION. WE ALSO HAD A GROWTH OF 48 EMPLOYEES DUE TO REPLACING CONTRACTED SERVICES SO THE BOARD, AFTER LOOKING AT THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS PROVIDED BY STAFF DID DECIDE TO BRING STREET SCAPE IN-HOUSE, WE HAVE A HYBRID NOW DOING SOME THROUGH CONTRACTED SERVICES AND ALSO SOME THAT IS PROVIDED BY STAFF. THAT WAS DECIDED AND THEN IN TROLLEYS WHICH USED TO BE PROVIDED BY THE TRANSIT DISTRICT AND THE BOARD CHOSE TO BRING THAT IN-HOUSE SO THERE WERE 13 TROLLEY DRIVERS THERE. ALSO, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT ADDED THEIR TENTH COMPANY WHICH EQUATED TO 15 EMPLOYEES.

162 POSITIONS, 44.75, 48 WERE REPLACED -- REPLACED CONTRACTED SERVICE. THE TENTH COMPANY AND THEN WE HAVE A GROWTH OF -- A 55 INCREASE OVER THAT 10-YEAR.

DUE TO GROWTH IN THE COMMUNITY AND ENHANCED SERVICES AND HERE IS A LIST OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT GREW IN THERE SO DURING THIS. OF TIME WE LOOK AT THIS ON A PER CAPITA BASIS AND THAT IS A VALID WAY TO LOOK AT IT BUT YOU ALSO HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE ARE EXTRA IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE SO WE DON'T HAVE AN AVERAGE NUMBER OF STAFF PER CAPITA THAT IS ALWAYS PROVIDING THE LEVEL OF SERVICES WE DO TAKE FOR INSTANCE OUR PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

>> WHAT IS THE TOTAL WITH FIRE AND TOWNSHIP STAFF?

>> 670. >> PER CAPITA I THINK THAT'S ACTUALLY LOW AND WE ARE NOT -- WE ARE LIKE THE HIGHEST.

>> PROVIDING HIGH LEVEL SER SERVICES.

>> BE ENHANCED PARKS MAINTENANCE STAFF GOT ADDED TWO YEARS AGO.

THAT'S INCLUDED IN THAT OPERATION AND WE BROUGHT IN, WE ACQUIRED THE WATERWAY TO GO OVER THE OWNERSHIP AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THAT SO THAT IS PART OF THE STAFF INCREASE.

WE HAVE ADDED TWO COVENANT ADMINISTRATION EVEN THOUGH POPULATION GROWTH NO LONGER DRIVES OUR INCREASING ADMINISTRATION BUT WHAT DOES IS AGING HELPS AND THOSE HAVE MORE ENFORCEMENT ASSOCIATED WITH THEM SO WE HAVE INCREASED IT OVER

TIME TO DEAL WITH THAT. >> ASKING ABOUT THE DEMAND FOR THE RECREATIONAL SERVICES BECAUSE NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES DO A LOT OF GOOD WORK. IS IT STILL A STRONG PROGRAM,

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>> ABSOLUTELY. WE MONITOR THOSE ALL THE TIME AND WE DON'T ALWAYS HIGHLIGHT THEM BUT WE HAVE RECREATION PROGRAMS OR PROGRAMS BY NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES THAT PETER OUT OVER TIME OR GET TIRED SO WE EITHER REVAMP THEM IF THAT MAKES SENSE OR WE DROP THEM OFF TOGETHER. SO THAT IS A CONSTANT PART OF

OUR OPERATIONS. >> LOOKING AT THIS AND THE EXPLANATION FOR ALL OF THESE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES AND STAFF.

THE WOODLANDS IS AN EXCEPTIONAL PLACE THAT REQUIRES EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE AND EXCEPTIONAL AMENITIES WHICH THE STAFF PROVIDES WHOLEHEARTEDLY. WE SEE THAT THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL SURVEYS. RESIDENTS VALUE WHAT IT IS WE ARE PROVIDING. AND I THINK IT'S EASY TO POKE HOLES WHEN THE BUDGET COMES OUT AND SPENDING TOO MUCH MONEY BUT WHERE WE LIVE IN THE EXPECTATIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR A COMMUNITY AND THE QUALITY OF SERVICES WARRANT THIS LEVEL OF STAFF AND SERVICES SO I THINK WE DO A GREAT JOB OF FISCALLY MANAGING THINGS. I APPRECIATE ALL THE STAFF AND WHAT ALL THESE DEPARTMENTS DO IN KEEPING THIS THE EXCEPTIONAL PLACE THAT IT IS AND IT'S WORTH THE MONEY SPENT.

>> I DITTO THAT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I THINK IT'S ALWAYS EASY TO ADD BUT IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO REDUCE AND THAT IS WHAT IS HAPPENING.

YOU CAN SUGARCOAT IT, BUTTER IT UP, YOU CAN SAY THIS IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICES BUT THAT IS A LOT OF EMPLOYEES TO ADD. I THINK IT WAS A 25% INCREASE.

>> THIS IS LONGER THAN FIVE YEARS.

>> THE GRAPH THAT I SAW -- THIS IS NOT THE GRAPH THAT I SAW

ACTUALLY IN THE PAST. >> THIS EXACTLY WHAT WE

PRESENTED LAST YEAR. >> I WILL KEEP LOOKING FOR IT.

ACTUALLY, IT WAS. GO BACK A COUPLE.

THAT ONE. TEN YEARS, STILL A LOT AND IT CERTAINLY EXCEEDED OUR POPULATION GROWTH SO I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE WORTH DISCUSSING THAT IF WE KEEP THIS GOING, THINK ABOUT THAT, IF WE KEEP THIS GOING, WE WILL REALLY BE

HEAVY ON STAFF. >> SHELLEY, TO YOUR POINT.

FROM 2020 TO NOW, 150 EMPLOYEE INCREASE VERSUS OVER THE COURSE OF TEN YEARS, IT SPREADS OUT A LITTLE BIT.

>> IT'S BEEN REALLY RAPID, THE RATE OF GROWTH HAS ACCELERATED.

>> I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN CURB WITH TECHNOLOGY AND SOME OF THE FORWARD MOVEMENTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING INTO, BEING MORE EFFICIENT, THAT COULD BE A FIVE-YEAR PLAN, THE FUTURE FIVE-YEAR PLAN, WE DON'T SEE THIS SO MAYBE DO YOU GUYS HAVE A

FIVE-YEAR PLAN? >> WE DO.

>> THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT.

>> I WILL SAY THAT I HAVE A BUDGET INITIATIVE TO TALK ABOUT WHEN IT COMES UP BUT OUR COVENANTS, ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT IS -- THE NUMBER 1 CALL I GET ARE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING WITH COVENANTS, LETTERS GOING OUT TO DILAPIDATED HOUSES THAT ARE FALLING DOWN TO ALL KINDS OF VIOLATIONS ACROSS THE BOARD AND I FEEL LIKE OVER THE YEARS IT'S BEEN A HODGEPODGE OF THE DEVELOPER, THE TOWNSHIP, AND I THINK IN TALKING WITH LOCAL REALTORS AND TALKING WITH NEIGHBORS OF MINE IT'S A PRETTY DILAPIDATED WAY OF DOING IT THAT NEEDS TO BE REIMAGINED.

I WILL BE GONE BUT YOU DO THAT AND STARTING OFF IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO FOCUS ON NOW AND I DON'T KNOW IF ADDING MORE EMPLOYEES IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO BUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDED. SO MUCH OF THIS IS TECHNOLOGY DRIVEN AND KIM, YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB, IT'S A DILAPIDATED SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE BEEN HANDED DOWN YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR

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WE DON'T WANT SOMEBODY TURNING THINGS OVER.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE DILAPIDATED THINGS WITH PEOPLE INVESTING BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE STREAMLINE THAT AND

TECHNOLOGY IS THE ANSWER. >> 100%.

AND REALLY THERE ARE TWO AREAS WHERE WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT PRETTY QUICKLY. TECHNOLOGY IS ONE BUT ALSO IN CUSTOMER SERVICE AND ENHANCEMENTS TO MAKE THEIR JOBS

EASIER AND MORE EFFICIENT. >> ALSO FINANCE.

WE HAVE A FINANCE AND LIKE TOMORROW'S PRESENTATION THAT WILLIAM HAS PREPARED PART OF THE BUDGET INITIATIVES.

WE ARE ALREADY IN THE ADMIN WORLD AND I WILL WAIT FOR

WILLIAM'S PRESENTATION. >> COVENANT SYSTEM, I'M NOT SURE IF THE CURRENT SYSTEM WORKS OR NOT BUT I AM FOR LOOKING AT EVERY OPTION THERE IS SO WILLIAM, COME TO IDEAS AND LET'S TALK ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT'S A PROBLEM.

IT'S VERY, VERY CONVOLUTED AND IT'S NOT MICROSOFT.

YOU CAN'T DO IT ON YOUR PHONE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN DO IT EASY AND IF PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO HAVE IT ON THEIR PHONE AND COME IN, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM AS WELL.

IT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO DIVE DEEP IN SO I WILL DO IT WHEN

IT'S THAT TIME. >> HEAR WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT BEFORE WAS 2025 AND HERE ARE THE TEN YEARS FROM 2018 TO 27 SO YOU CAN SEE THAT HAS NEVER DROPPED TO 140 SO A LOT OF THOSE POSITIONS THAT WE SAW ADDED WERE BACK IN THE 2014 TO 2019 TIME FRAME BUT A LOT OF POSITIONS HERE AND YOU CAN SEE FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS WE HAVE -- ADDED ONE FTE TOTAL FOR 26 AND AS I PRESENTED YESTERDAY WE ARE DECREASING FY A PART TIME POSITION 0.5 FD FOR 2027 SO THAT DID BRING DOWN THE PER CAPITA STAFF POSITIONS PER CAPITA DOWN SLIGHTLY IN 2027.

>> THE 2025 JUMP, WE HAVE A BRAND NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT

COMPANY, CORRECT? >> THAT WAS EARLIER.

WE HAVE A NEW FIRE DEPARTMENT BUT THAT WAS NOT RELATED.

I THINK THERE ARE TWO POSITIONS IN 25 BUT NOT THE WHOLE COMPANY.

STAFFING CHANGES AGAIN FOR THE PAST TWO YEARS SO SINCE THAT PRESENTATION WAS MADE PREVIOUSLY, AS I JUST MENTIONED WE HAD ONE FD NET ADDED IN 2026 AND THEN IN 27 AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE ARE RELEASING TWO RECREATION POSITIONS WHICH MORE THAN OFFSET THE ONE AND A HALF THAT WE ARE REQUESTING.

ANY QUESTIONS ON STAFFING? >> NO.

>> OKAY. WITH THAT I WILL ADVANCE A WHOLE BUNCH OF SLIDES TO GET TO WHERE WE LEFT OFF YESTERDAY BEFORE I START RELATED TO YESTERDAY, ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING WE NEED TO GO OVER OR KEEP ON GOING THROUGH THE DEPARTMENTAL AS? OKAY. WE WILL DO THAT.

FOR GENERAL GOVERNMENT, HOWEVER MANY DEPARTMENTS THAT IS, DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER TO CREATE A GENERAL GOVERNMENT DIVISION.

IN TOTAL, ALL OF THESE, YOU CAN SEE LISTED HERE, $15.7 MILLION WHICH IS A 513,000 OR 3.4% INCREASE OVER 26 SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THESE DEPARTMENT BY DEPARTMENT.

BUT FIRST OF ALL, OVERALL IN GENERAL GOVERNMENT THIS IS THE SIGNIFICANT INCREASES AND DECREASES SO IT COMPUTERS SUPPORT RELATED TO MICROSOFT, COPILOT LICENSES AND CYBERSECURITY IS INCREASING 185,000, STAFFING IS INCREASING FOR ABOUT 147,000 FOR 61 FTE. WE DO HAVE BUILT IN A LOBBYIST

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WE HAVE BUDGETED FOR A COMPENSATION STUDY PER THE BOARD'S DIRECTION DURING LAST YEAR'S BUDGET STUDY AND THE COMPENSATION STUDY CONDUCTED IN 2027.

AND INCREASING LIABILITY INSURANCE AND A PLACEHOLDER IN THERE RIGHT NOW, 5%. I HAVE A FEELING IT WILL GO HIGHER BUT WORKING TO GET A BETTER COST ESTIMATE BUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BUILT IN RIGHT NOW. ELECTION EXPENSE, OUR CONTRACT WITH MONTGOMERY COUNTY WILL GO UP $45,000.

WE HAVE PAYROLL PROCESSING FEES IN THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND INCREASING TO 16,000 AND THEN OTHER NET OVER A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT CATEGORIES AND THEN WE ARE DECREASING CONTRACTED LEGAL FEES OF ABOUT 61,000 TO WHAT THE AVERAGE HAS BEEN.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE LOBBYISTS.

DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE LOBBYISTS?

>> WE DO NOT. THIS IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND THEN WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH INITIATING THE

CONTRACT. >> OKAY.

>> WOULD YOU GO A LITTLE BIT BACK IN HISTORY.

I'VE TRIED TO EXPRESS MY OPPOSITION TO HIRING LOBBYISTS WITH TAXPAYER MONEY IN THE PAST AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN BUT LAST YEAR OR TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD TWO LOBBYISTS.

WE HAD -- I. THINK IT WAS $10,000 A MONTH AND IT WAS FOR TWO. 240,000.

>> ONE OF THE LOBBYISTS WAS $200,000 PER MONTH.

THE OTHER LOBBYIST WAS AROUND $60,000 SO HALF OF THAT.

>> 180,000. >> REALLY DID NOT SERVE AS A LOBBYIST BUT SERVED FOR LEGAL SERVICES.

>> CAN YOU TELL US WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED?

>> MIXED BEVERAGE TAX. >> THAT WAS BEFORE.

THIS WAS AFTER THE MIXED BEVERAGE.

THIS WAS NOT MIXED BEVERAGE. IT WAS AFTER BUT THE GOAL WAS

SOMETHING ELSE. >> THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE TO.

SOME OTHER LEGISLATIVE GOALS BESIDES CENTER POINT.

>> ONE OF THE TALKING POINTS WAS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND WE DIDN'T WANT TO BE BLINDSIDED BY SOMETHING THAT WAS HAPPENING DURING THE SESSION THAT WE DID NOT KNOW ABOUT.

THE SESSION STARTING UP, SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE

LOOKING AT AGAIN. >> MAKING CHANGES TO PURPOSE DISTRICTS WHICH DID HAPPEN. THIS IS MUCH LOWER SO CAN WE EXPECT THERE WILL BE A BUMP IN THIS NUMBER?

>> THIS IS WHAT WE ARE BUDGETING RIGHT NOW AND THIS IS WHAT WE WILL NEGOTIATE, IF WE ARE UNSUCCESSFUL IN THAT NEGOTIATION

THEN WE WILL LET THE BOARD KNOW. >> IT DEPENDS ON HOW SUCCESSFUL

OUR NEW STATE REP IS. >> HE WILL BE SO HIGHLY PAID.

YOU WILL PROBABLY WANT TO BE A LOBBYIST.

WE ARE ALL VOLUNTEERS. THE NEXT SLIDE IS THE MOST EFFICIENT RUN DEPARTMENT IN THE ENTIRE TOWNSHIP.

EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY EFFICIENT AND FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE BUT WE ARE ALL UNPAID. WE HAVE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE ON US. THE STAFF DOES TO UPKEEP THE CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT AND CUSTOMER SERVICE AND WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT TO PARKS, TO ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES BUT WHEN YOU HAVE A MASSIVE ATTACK COMING FROM ALL DIFFERENT FACTIONS WHICH THIS YEAR I CAN TELL YOU THE BIGGEST ONE RIGHT NOW IS PROPERTY TAXES. 47% OF OUR REVENUE IS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT IN A DIFFERENT WAY AND IF WE DON'T HAVE SOMEONE BLOCKING AND TACKLING, I HOPE THE NEXT STATE REP DOES A GREAT

JOB. >> ACTUALLY 29% AND NOT 47.

>> MY BAD. WHATEVER IT IS.

IT'S A BIG PART OF IT. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE ARE LOOKING AT THAT BUT MAKING SURE OUR FORM OF GOVERNMENT IS PROTECTED AND BECOMING INCREASINGLY MORE DIFFICULT.

ALSO ON THE MAJOR DEAL SO MAKING SURE WE REPRESENT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE ABLE TO GET ALLOTMENT FOR GRANTS AND THAT TO MAKE SURE WE GET MORE PIPES AND THINGS DONE SO IT'S A CONVOLUTED DEAL BUT WE

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>> WE DO HAVE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS.

>> BUT WE HAVE REAL JOBS THAT WE ARE ALSO DOING BUT TODD'S JOB IS TO MANAGE THIS AND MAKE SURE WE ARE BLOCKING AND TACKLING AND I THINK LOWERING IT IS A GOOD THING.

I THINK WE NEED THEM IN SIX MONTHS WHEN IN SESSION.

NOT FOR A WHOLE YEAR. 60,000 IS A VERY REPUTABLE

NUMBER. >> HAVING SOMEONE SERVE FROM THIS BOARD IS A TREMENDOUS ASSET SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO GOOD

THINGS FROM YOU. >> YOU ARE MAKING ME FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE. LET'S NOT TALK ABOUT THAT.

>> VERY BIG THING. >> WE WILL TALK ABOUT BUDGET.

>> I'M DUBIOUS THAT THIS WILL BE THE FINAL NUMBER BECAUSE I'VE SEEN IT GO UP DRAMATICALLY AND THEN IT WENT THROUGH REALLY FAST. PUTTING THAT OUT THERE AND I THINK WE SHOULD NOT SPEND TAXPAYER MONEY ON THIS IF WE NEED, OF ALL THE THINGS, THIS IS NOT THE ONE TO SPEND TAXPAYER

MONEY ON. >> NOTED.

NEXT SLIDE. LOOK AT THIS DEPARTMENT.

WOW. UNREAL.

FISCALLY CONSERVATIVE RIGHT H HERE.

[LAUGHTER] >> NO CHANGES TO THE BOARD OF

DIRECTORS IS BEING OBJECTED. >> CITIES AROUND US THAT PAY

THEIR COUNCILMEN A HEFTY SUM. >> AND A PENSION.

>> IT'S CRAZY TO ME. >> LEARNING TO NOT HAVE OFF SIDES AND I HOPE THE BOARD WILL REMEMBER THAT WAS EXPENSIVE AND AN OFF-SITE IS EXPENSIVE AND WE DON'T NEED THAT.

WE DO REALLY GOOD WORK. WE DON'T NEED TO BE GOING OFF

SITE. >> ACCOMPLISHING A GREAT DEAL, A GOLF COURSE, WE ACCOMPLISHED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT.

>> BUT THAT WAS A LOT OF MONEY. WE COULD HAVE DONE IT HERE.

>> THE PRESIDENT'S OFFICE CALCULUS IS MY BUDGET.

YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE RIGHT SIZE SOME OF THE LINE ITEMS BASED ON OUR ACTUAL EXPERIENCE OR CHANGE IN PLANS.

THE CONSULTANT FEES ARE GOING UP OVERALL REDUCING CONSULTING BUT THERE THE LOBBYIST FOR 60,000 AND AGAIN THE REST OF THESE ARE JUST RIGHT SIZING OUR EXPENSES. QUESTIONS ON MY DEPARTMENT? IN TERMS OF LEGAL SERVICES. AGAIN WE ARE JUST RIGHTSIZING TO WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN SPENT.

DEPENDING ON WHAT SERVICES, WHAT AGREEMENTS COME DUE AND WHAT WE ASK THEM TO DO CHANGES FROM YEAR TO YEAR BUT WE BELIEVE THIS IS STILL SUFFICIENT. HERE IS A TOWNSHIP SECRETARY'S OFFICE. THIS IS THE OFFICE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUBLIC INFORMATION. OUR RECORDS RETENTION AND PREPARING ALL OF THE AGENDAS. AN INCREASE OVER OF 1.6%.

WE DO HAVE SPEAKING OF TECHNOLOGY, THE RECORD STORAGE COST GOING UP, THE LARGEST INCREASE IN HERE.

THAT IS BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE PAPER RECORDS SITTING IN RECORD STORAGE. WE HAVE SOME RECORDS WE ARE REQUIRED TO KEEP FOREVER THAT WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE CONTRACT LABOR LINE ITEM OF 25,000. WE HAVE HIGHER CONTRACT LABOR TO DIGITIZE ALL OF OUR RECORDS SO THAT WE CAN THEN EVENTUALLY

ELIMINATE THAT RECORD STORAGE. >> IS THERE A TIMELINE ON THAT?

>> WE THINK WE WILL FINISH THIS -- THEY HAD TO LEAVE.

27 SHOULD BE THE LAST YEAR. >> THE END OF 27.

>> 26 WAS OUR FIRST YEAR AND WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS AND WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO FINISH UP IN 27.

>> THANK YOU. >> THIS IS THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT AND I AM SITTING UP HERE GOING THROUGH EVERYTHING BUT I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED WE DON'T HAVE ALL OF OUR STAFF HERE SO ANY OF THEM CAN COME UP AND ANSWER ANY OF THESE QUESTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT WE HAVE TRAINING AND CONFERENCES.

THIS IS A YEAR THAT WE ARE INCREASING.

WE HAVE SOME REQUIRED TRAINING THAT WE HAVE TO DO AS A GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY AND THIS IS ONE OF THE YEARS.

27 IS ONE OF THE YEARS WHEN SOME PROGRAMS COME DUE.

>> ANY UNREQUIRED TRAINING? >> YES.

DEFINITELY. WITHIN EACH ONE OF THE BUDGET LINE ITEMS OR THE DEPARTMENT OF LINE ITEMS YOU SEE A STAFF

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>> I MEANT SPECIFICALLY ON HR. >> ANGELA, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN YOUR TRAINING BUDGET?

>> WHAT IS TEC? >> THE TEXAS EMPLOYMENT

COMMISSION SO UNEMPLOYMENT TAX. >> GOOD MORNING.

THE HR TRAINING COVERS BUDGET INCLUDING TRAINING THAT IS DONE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL TOWNSHIP EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS A SMALL AMOUNT FOR MY DEPARTMENT SO IT INCLUDES COMPLIANCE TRAINING THAT WOULD BE ANTI-HARASSMENT AND DISCRIMINATION. EEOC TYPES OF TRAINING.

THIS YEAR WE HAVE DEFENSIVE DRIVING TRAINING THAT WE STARTED AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT COME UP BASED ON EXPERIENCE.

WE NEED TO DO SOME DEFENSIVE DRIVER TRAINING AND THIS YEAR WE ARE ALSO DOING CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND CONFLICT MANAGEMENT AND MANAGING DIFFICULT BEHAVIORS.

AGAIN OUR FOCUS ON CUSTOMER SERVICE AND CUSTOMER ENGAGEMENT TRYING TO MAKE SURE OUR STAFF, ESPECIALLY OUR LEADERS ARE EQUIPPED SO THAT IS NOT REQUIRED TRAINING BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO BE REALLY EFFECTIVE AT DEALING WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND VISITORS AND CONTRACTORS AND EVEN FELLOW COWORKERS SO THERE IS DEFINITELY A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS LINE ITEM FOR THE WHOLE TOWNSHIP STAFF AND THEN YOU HAVE LIKE EVERY DEPARTMENT, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT FOR THEIR CURRENT STAFF SO A SMALL PORTION OF THAT WOULD BE --

>> I LOVE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT BUT I WOULD BE CURIOUS TO SEE IF YOU HAD A BREAKDOWN OF THE TRAINING SCHEDULE FOR 2027 LINE ITEM. I'D BE INTERESTED.

>> OKAY. WE CAN DO THAT.

>> WHAT WAS THE TUITION REIMBURSEMENT?

166.7% INCREASE? >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ALL REMEMBER LAST YEAR WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE EDUCATION REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AND YOU HAD SEEN 6000 AND THINKING WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH EDUCATION REIMBURSEMENT FOR $6000 KNOWING WHAT COLLEGE COSTS. YOU SAID IT AND THEN WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY WE WANT TO DO EDUCATIONAL REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM AND WHAT WE DO IS WE PROVIDE REIMBURSEMENT UP TO A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, ONLY $4000 PER YEAR.

MOST OF OUR STAFF DOING THIS ARE GOING TO LONE STAR AND SO THAT IS A VERY REASONABLE COST. THEY CAN DO TWO CLASSES A SEMESTER UP TO $4000 PER YEAR AND SO WE DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE IN THE PIPELINE. WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO DEFINITELY THIS IS ATTRACTIVE TO PEOPLE WHO MAYBE CAME INTO A JOB HERE THAT DID NOT REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE BUT WOULD LIKE TO ADVANCE AND WOULD LIKE TO PROMOTE TO POSITIONS THAT DO REQUIRE A COLLEGE DEGREE AND SO THIS IS A GREAT BENEFIT ESPECIALLY FOR OUR YOUNGER STAFF WHO ARE WORKING WHILE TRYING TO GO TO SCHOOL, OUR REC SPECIALIST, THIS IS POPULAR FOR THEM.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANTING TO IMPROVE AND PROMOTE WITHIN THE

TOWNSHIP. >> IS THAT OFFERED TO ALL

INCLUDING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT? >> YES.

>> ARE YOU SENSITIVE TO THE TYPE OF COURSEWORK THAT THEY PAY WITH

TAXPAYER MONEY? >> YES.

THAT IS A PART OF THE PROGRAM REQUIREMENT SO IT HAS TO BE RELATED TO YOUR JOB OR RELATED TO A JOB THAT YOU COULD HAVE AT

THE TOWNSHIP. >> THANK YOU.

>> WHAT IF WE GO DOWN TO CONTRACTED SERVICES UNDER OTHER THAT'S A DECENT JUMP AND OTHER IS PRETTY AMBIGUOUS.

>> THAT IS THE COMPENSATION STUDY, THE $60,000 THAT YOU SAW ON THE PREVIOUS SLIDE FOR -- WHAT WE WILL DO.

SOME OF YOU WERE HERE WITH US WHEN WE DID THE COMPENSATION STUDY IN 2023 SO THIS WOULD BE EVERY FOUR YEARS OR SO IS THE TIMING THAT MOST CITIES WILL DO A COMPENSATION STUDY.

SOME DO IT MORE OFTEN THAN THAT SO WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE WOULD BRING THE CONSULTANT ON TO DO THE COMPENSATION STUDY IN 2027 TO THEN BRING BACK TO YOU PROPOSED WHATEVER THEY PROPOSED AS MEASURES TO TAKE FOR THEN BEING INCORPORATED INTO THE 2028 BUDGET. THIS IS THE CONSULTING FEE.

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>> I THINK IF I SAID THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER BUT EVERY FOUR YEARS IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE DO?

>> THAT IS THE BEST PRACTICE SO WE DID A STUDY PRIOR TO THE ONE IN 2023, I THINK IT MAY HAVE BEEN 2020 OR 2021 THAT WAS NOT THE MOST EFFECTIVE AND SO IT GOT TO THE POINT WHERE WE NEEDED TO REALLY DO A MUCH BETTER JOB AND WE DID THAT IN 2023 SO NOW AGAIN WE WOULD DO IT AGAIN IN 2027. THE POINT OF THE COMPENSATION STUDY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PAYING COMPETITIVE PAY TO OUR EMPLOYEES. THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO ATTRACT AND RETAIN THE BEST STAFF SO THE COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY THAT THE BOARD HAS APPROVED IS TO PAY THE AVERAGE OF THE MARKET SO IT'S IMPORTANT WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT THE MARKET IS AND WHAT THE AVERAGE IS SO THAT WE CAN PAY PEOPLE SO THE COMPENSATION STUDY GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY AND REVIEW THE MARKET DATA AND WHO WE ARE COMPARING OURSELVES TO. WHEN YOU HEAR US TALK ABOUT OUR COMPENSATION PHILOSOPHY AND REFERENCE OUR CITIES, THOSE ARE DETERMINED IN THAT COMPENSATION STUDY PROCESS SO THIS GIVES YOU A CHANCE, WHATEVER BOARD IS IN PLACE AT THE TIME TO DETERMINE WHAT YOU WANT US TO LOOK AT AND WHAT YOU WANT US TO COMPARE TO.

>> THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE GENERAL WAGE

INCREASE FOR EVERY ONE? >> IN THIS BUDGET?

3%. >> FOR THE WHOLE TOWNSHIP, FOR

EVERYBODY? >> YES.

IT'S A GENERAL INCREASE FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S ELIGIBLE.

>> ANY OTHER PERFORMANCE? WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT STEP UP.

>> THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A PLAN FOR THEIR COMPENSATION AND SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYEES, IF THEY ACHIEVE, THEY WILL GET THE INCREASE FOR THEIR STEP AND THE 3% INCREASE, THE

GENERAL INCREASE. >> HOW MANY STEPS ARE THERE?

>> IT DEPENDS ON WHAT RANK YOU ARE BUT THE STEP PLAN IS ACTUALLY ON OUR WEBSITE. ALL OF OUR PAID PLANS ARE ON OUR WEBSITE. ANYONE IN THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS THEM. STRAIGHT FROM THE TOWNSHIP WEBSITE AND THE HR PAGE, ALL OF OUR COMPENSATION PLANS ARE THERE AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE STEPS.

>> THE GENERAL ADJUSTMENT IS 3% FOR EVERYBODY?

>> YES. >> OTHER THAN EDUCATIONAL ALLOWANCES, GETTING SET WITHIN THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT?

>> WE DO NOT PAY EDUCATION HERE AT THE TOWNSHIP.

POTENTIAL FOR OTHER JOBS THAT PAY AT A HIGHER RATE IF YOU HAD

A DIFFERENT DEGREE. >> THAT IS TOTAL COMPENSATION,

3%. >> I THINK WE HAD A LITTLE DISCUSSION A COUPLE YEARS AGO ABOUT THAT OVERALL AMOUNT.

USING A 3% THIS TIME THAT NO MATTER WHEN YOU HAVE SUPERSTARS, WHEN YOU HAVE ONES THAT ARE NOT SUPERSTARS, NOT ONES THAT DON'T GET ANYTHING BUT I WOULD STILL LOVE TO SEE IF THERE IS EVER AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE IT'S STILL AN OVERALL PERCENTAGE LIKE A 3% BUT THOSE THAT ARE SUPERSTARS MAYBE GET THE 4.2 AND THOSE THAT MAYBE ARE NOT LIVING UP TO THAT HIGHER STANDARD MAYBE THEY GET A 2.5.

IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE IT'S A UNION, ONE GETS 3% WHEREAS THOSE THAT ARE REALLY GOOD SHOULD BE COMPENSATED IN THAT WAY.

>> IS IT POSSIBLE TO COMPENSATE PEOPLE FOR WORK ADDITIONALLY? SOME PEOPLE HAVE FOUND REALLY GREAT OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TOWNSHIP FINANCIALLY, $25 MILLION.

SOME OF THAT WORK IS IMPRESSIVE AND SO ARE THERE WAYS TO COMPENSATE PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING ABOVE AND BEYOND TO FIND OPPORTUNITY THAT BENEFITS THE TOWNSHIP?

FROM A GOVERNMENT STANDPOINT. >> WE DON'T HAVE A PERFORMANCE BASED PAY PROGRAM. OTHER CITIES DO SO LIKE YOU SAID CAN YOU PAY PEOPLE MORE FOR PERFORMING AT OR ABOVE EXPECTATIONS VERSUS MAYBE NOT MEETING EXPECTATIONS.

YES, YOU CAN. WE DO NOT HAVE THAT PROGRAM IN PLACE TODAY. IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME TO DEVELOP THAT AND IT DEFINITELY IS A CULTURAL SHIFT SO WE WOULD

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>> IS THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE LOOKED AT WITH THIS STUDY? IN THE EVENT THAT WE WANTED TO CREATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT?

>> YES. >> I WOULD BE TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THAT. I FEEL THAT THERE IS NO INCENTIVE. WHEN WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SUPERSTARS OUT THERE, EIGHT OF THEM SITTING RIGHT THERE.

WE LOVE TO SEE THAT AND I LIKE THAT IDEA IN THAT COMPENSATION.

>> EXTRAORDINARY PERFORMANCE. >> WE HAVE LOTS OF SUPERSTARS.

>> IT'S STILL 3% JUST THAT SOME PEOPLE MAY GET 3.5 AND SOME MAY GET 2.5. PEOPLE OUT THERE KNOW WHO THE REALLY GOOD WORKERS ARE. WE CAN TELL WHO THE REALLY GOOD WORKERS ARE. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD ONES.

>> YES, WE INCLUDE THAT WHEN WE LOOK AT COMPENSATION OVERALL WHEN WE LOOK AT THE COMPENSATION STUDY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THE DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET?

>> I'M GOOD. >> ESCAPE WHILE YOU CAN.

[LAUGHTER] >> HERE IS THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT. OVERALL FELL -- A 1.9% INCREASE.

ONE OF THE LARGEST INCREASES IN HERE IS THE PAYROLL PROCESSING FEES OF 16000. THIS IS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF USING TECHNOLOGY AND CONTRACTED SERVICES VERSUS ADDING STAFF SO THIS IS OUR PAYROLL SYSTEM BUT INSTEAD OF PROCESSING IMBURSEMENT, MILEAGE REIMBURSEMENTS, THOSE THINGS ANNUALLY WHICH GETS CUMBERSOME, IT COSTS THE SAME AMOUNT TO PROCESS A $20 CHECK AS IT DOES A $200,000 CHECK SO RATHER THAN DO THAT WE LOOK AT OUR TECHNOLOGY AND OUR CONTRACTED SERVICES TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT SO WE ARE SWITCHING SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING MANUALLY THROUGH THE AP SYSTEM INTO THIS PROCESS AND THAT'S WHAT THE INCREASE IS AND THAT HELPS US BE ABLE TO DEFER HAVING TO ADD POSITIONS AND ACCOUNTS PAYABLE IN ORDER TO PROCESS RELATIVELY SMALL CHECKS. I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW.

INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY HAS A 4.6% INCREASE OVERALL AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS HERE.

WE ARE RIGHT SIZING TELEPHONE EXPENSE AND SOME CONTRACT LABOR EXPENSES. LARGE INCREASE HERE IS FOR COMPUTER SUPPORT. MANY OF YOU WITHIN YOUR COMPANIES WORKING WITH TECHNOLOGY AND ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR RENEWING SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE KNOW THAT IT IS EXPENSIVE. SO THAT IS WHAT WE ARE SEEING HERE OVERALL, ABOUT 11% INCREASE.

>> ARE THOSE CONTRACTS TYPICALLY THREE YEAR, ONE YEAR?

>> TYPICALLY ONE YEAR. IS THAT TRUE?

IT DEPENDS WHAT IT IS BUT -- >> TECHNOLOGY IS OUR GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO BE SMART WITH WHAT WE INVEST IN AND I THINK MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING FOR A BUNCH OF SERVICES THAT ARE OUTDATED TO BRAD'S POINT.

IS THERE INVESTMENT THAT MAKES MORE SENSE FOR US TO DO THINGS BETTER CORRECT FASTER CORRECT MORE EFFICIENT? VERSUS WHAT WORKED THREE YEARS AGO.

TECHNOLOGY ESPECIALLY WITH AI, THINGS ARE CHANGING.

THINGS THAT DID NOT EXIST SIX MONTHS AGO EXISTS TODAY SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR EYE ON BIG TIME BECAUSE IF WE MISS IT IT WILL BE BEHIND AND FROM A GOVERNMENT ENTITY IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO BE A SHINING STAR OF MUNICIPALITIES STANDPOINTS OF INTEGRATED TECHNOLOGY.

NOT FOUR YEARS TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT WE DO.

>> I AGREE WITH YOU. AND AGAIN, WE WILL GO OVER SOME OF THIS IN THE PRESENTATION. ANYBODY WHO HAS WORKED WITH WILLIAM FOR YEARS, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE CAN TELL YOU IF THERE IS ONE CHIEF NEGOTIATOR ON OUR TEAM, IT'S WILLIAM SO HE REALLY HAMMERS THIS SO HE DOES AN AMAZING JOB AT MANAGING THIS AND HE IS VERY RECOGNIZED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IS ON STATE LEVEL BOARDS THAT DEAL WITH IT FROM GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES SO HE IS VERY ON TOP OF THE LATEST AND WILL BE REQUIRED TO MEET WITH > THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU.

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>> WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S CALLED NONDEPARTMENTAL EXPENSES.

THESE APPLY THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND ARE NOT ASSIGNED TO ANY SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT.

YOU CAN SEE HERE WE HAVE OUR COPIER, LEASE AND POSTAGE.

WE HAVE SOME COMPUTER SUPPORT THAT YOU'RE ADDING FOR AN EREQUISITION SYSTEM RELATED TO PURCHASING OUR CONSULTING IS FOR OUR INSURANCE CONSULTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE BEST DEAL AND THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE COVERAGE.

I TALKED EARLIAL ABOUT OUR ELECTION EXPENSE COMING INCREASING AND THEN THE INSURANCE HAS A 5% INCREASE AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GOING TO BE SUFFICIENT.

I'M HOPING THAT IT IS. BUT WE'LL BE ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK

WITH Y'ALL. >> BUT IF IT'S ONLY 5 IT WILL BE

A MIRACLE; RIGHT? >> IT WILL.

WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING BEFORE THE BOARD HAS TO ADOPT THE BUDGET SO WE'LL LET YOU KNOW IF THAT HAS TO BE ADJUSTED.

ANYTHING HERE? OKAY MOVING ON TO FACILITIES.

OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS BUILDING, IT'S ALSO INVOLVED IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION BUILDINGS, THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.

MOST OF THE EXPENSES YOU SEE HERE ARE FOR THE TOWN HALL BUILDING. OVER ALL THEIR BUDGET IS INCREASING BY 6500 OR 0.7%. SO NOT MUCH CHANGING AT ALL IN TERMS OF THEIR BUDGET LINE ITEMS. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO PARKS AND RECREATION. SO OVER ALL, OUR PARKS AND REC REACTION WHICH IS NEXT TO -- WHICH IS OUR LARGEST DEPARTMENT IN TERMS OF ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES IS 43.4 MILLION DOLLARS. 1 MILLION DOLLAR OR 2.5% INCREASE IS BEING PROPOSED FOR 2027.

PARKS AND REC REACTION CONSIST OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU SEE LISTED HERE. AND WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS. CHRIS, OR JOHN, WOULD YOU MIND TALKING THROUGH. I'M TIRED OF TALKING AND Y'ALL ARE PROBABLY TIRED OF LISTENING TO ME SO CHRIS WOULD YOU MIND

DOING IT. >> WELCOME.

>> I WASN'T 100% PREPARED FOR THIS BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, NOT A PROBLEM. SO PARKS AND REC RATION MAKES UP A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT SUB BU BUDGETS PER SE AND FIRST IS ADMIN AND PLANNING GROUP.

SO OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RK RECREATION IS INCLUDED IN THAT.

AS WELL AS SOME OVERARCHING EXPENSES FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT LIKE VEHICLE FUEL. SO THERE'S ONE LINE ITEM FOR VEHICLE FUEL FOR THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT.

AND AS WE KNOW FUEL COSTS HAVE GONE UP.

OUR STAFFING ALLOCATION OF 3% AS WELL FROM THERE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF SMALL FACILITY EXPENSE THERE'S.

WE DECREASED THE SUCONSULTING FS THIS YEAR.

THIS IS BASE BUDGET LET ME JUST MAKE SURE I'M LOOKING AT THE RIGHT THINGS HERE. WE SEE OUR VARIOUS LINE ITEMS, THEIR OVER ALL IS YOU LOOK AT THE VEHICLE FUEL AT THE 22,000 DOLLARS AS AN INCREASE WE'VE SEEN FUEL COSTS GO UP AND WE HAVE BEEN THERE. THE NEXT LINE IS MORE OF THE

ADMIN AND PLANNING. >> I'M SORRY, CHRIS.

COULD YOU GO BACK ONE MORE WHEN IT GOES TO TELEPHONE, IS THAT

CELL PHONE. >> THAT IS ALL, THAT IS A WILLIAM LINE ITEM SO THE PARKS TEAM DOESN'T TOUCH THAT SO OUR BUDGET IS CELL PHONES, I DON'T WANT TO SAY MODEMS BUT WIRELESS HOT SPOT DEVICES THAT THAT UNIT USES.

>> IT ALL GETS ROLLED INTO THAT. >> IT ALL GETS ROLLED INTO THOSE

LINES. >> TELEPHONE IS THE HARD LINE --

>> SORRY. >> NO, YOU'RE GOOD.

MONIQUE SAID THAT THE TELEPHONE IS THE HARD LINE AND THEN THERE'S A DATA SERVICE THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT BELOW THAT THAT HAS A REQUEST OF 68,000 THAT IS OUR CELL PHONES AS WELL AS THE DATA CARDS, MOBILE HOT SPOTS.

>> OKAY. >> WHAT PROVIDER DO WE USE?

>> RIGHT NOW WE ARE ON T MOBILE. >> I JUST SWITCHED TO T MOBILE.

>> AND THAT WAS SWITCHED, WILLIAM, LAST YEAR, TWO YEARS AGO. 2025.

BECAUSE WILLIAM DID A GREAT JOB NEGOTIATING A RATE OFF OF VERIZON. WE GO INTO PARK OPERATIONS BUDGET. THIS IS THE UNIT THAT TAKES CARE

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AND WE ARE REDUCING PARK MAINTENANCE, THAT IS NOT A REDUCTION IN SERVICE. THAT IS MORE OF JUST RIGHT SIZING THE LINE ITEM. WE BUDGETED FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE AND WE WERE NOT SPENDING THAT AND WE WERE GIVING THAT BACK FROM THAT STANDPOINT. AGAIN, SAME STANDARD HERE WITH SALARIES, BENEFITS, FACILITY SP EXPENSES. NO REALLY OUTLIERS IN PARK OPERATIONS AND WE SEE MAINTENANCE AS THE TOP LINE ITEM WITH $150,000 DECREASE AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JOHN'S TEAM GOES IN THROUGH EVERY SINGLE YEAR AND LOOKED AT WHAT ARE WE SPENDING AND WHERE ARE WE HAVING MORE FOR ADDITIONAL SIMILARS TO ALLOCATION BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SPENDING WHAT WE HAVE REQUESTED TO RIGHT SIZE THAT AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING A 0.3% DECREASE IN PARKS AND PATHWAY OPERATIONS.

AQUATICS, A BIG KEY IN THIS IS ROUGHLY 50% OF THE COST OF THIS UNIT IS ACTUALLY RECOVERED THROUGH YOUR POOL PASS FEES.

MEMBERSHIPS, PAMELA PRESENTED I WANTED TO SAY EARLIER THIS YEAR A FEE STRUCTURE PLAN THAT INCLUDED ALL OUR FEES AND ONE OF THEM WAS LOOKING FOR NEXT YEAR TO A SLIGHT MODIFICATIONS FOR THE FEE PASSES TO ADJUST THE REVENUES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE KEEPING UP OF THE COST OF THIS AND MEETING THE GOALS OF THE PO BOARD ONE OF THE BIGGEST EXPENSES IS ACTUALLY THE FILTER SAND REPLACEMENT.

WE TRY TO WORK WITH BUDGET GROUP AND THEY WOULD NOT LET US CAPITALIZE SAND SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THROUGH THAT SO THAT ACTUALLY AFFECTS THE COST RECOVERY EQUATION THERE.

>> IS THAT A ONE-TIME. >> THAT'S A ONE TIME EXPENSE YOU REPLACE SAND AND SAND FILTERS ON AN EVERY 10 YEARS BASIS.

IT IS A CONSUMABLE WITHIN A MATTER OF YEARS THAT IT'S THERE.

>> AND THAT'S -- I'M SORRY, I'M SKIPPING AHEAD ON THE NEXT PAGE FOR FACILITY REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE, 5700 IS THAT THE

SAME THING. >> YES REMEMBER YOU ARE OPERATING 14 POOLS IN THIS LINE ITEM AS WELL AS 6 PLAYGROUNDS AS WELL AS PROVIDING NOT DIRECT STAFF, THE STAFF FOR THE POINTENS AT WATERWAY SQUARE AND OTHERS POINTS FOUNTENS IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S WHERE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE OF PUMPS WATER IS AS OPPOSED TO TOWN CENTER.

SO YOU SEE THESE LINE ITEMS AGAIN THE EQUIPMENT WAS GOING UP THERE AND THIS IS WHERE THE COST RECOVERY PERCENTAGE REALLY COMES IN THIS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UNDERSTANDING, THIS HAS BEEN THE BOARD -- THE PAST -- THE PREVIOUS BOARDS SET THIS GOAL BACK IN 2007 AND WE HAVE BEEN MEETING THESE GOALS BOTH IN RECREATION AS WELL AS AQUATICS SINCE 2009, 2010.

SO IT'S BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT REVIEW OF WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING AND WHAT SHOULD WE PROVIDE AND USING A VERY APPROACH TOED BYING AND LOOKING AT CONTRACTING WHERE IT'S APPROPRIATE TO KEEP AND MAINTENANCE OR MANY THE COST SO WE DON'T HAVE LARGE FEE INCREASES ON THE RECREATIONAL SIDE AS WELL AS THE AQUATIC SIDE. I THINK WHEN I FIRST GOT HERE IN 2006 THE POOL PASS FEE FOR AN ADULT WAS $35S AND WE'RE JUST GETTING TO 40, 45 RIGHT NOW. SO 20 YEARS.

THROUGH THAT WITH A LOT OF EXPANSION OF POOLS, SPRAY GROUNDS, ET CETERA SO THEY REALLY DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE.

>> THERE'S SO MUCH PUSHBACK WHEN WE INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF THE

BADGE. >> WE DID NOT SEE A PUSHBACK I WANT TO SAY IN 22, 23 WAS THE LAST POOL INCREASE WHERE WE ADDED $5. WE DIDN'T SEE THAT PUSHBACK.

I THINK WE WORKED VERY VERY WELL WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO TRY TO REALLY SHOW THE VALUE OF THAT 40, $45 POOL PASS THAT IT'S NOT

ONE POOL, IT'S 14 POOLS >> IT'S QUITE A VALUE.

YEAH LIKE THAT'S AMAZING. >> RIGHT.

AND SO THERE'S SPLASH GUYS, THERE'S A LOT OF COLLATERAL THAT COMMUNICATIONS DOES A GREAT JOB TO SHOW THE VALUE THERE AND WE ALSO HAD A PROGRAM, THE HIGH SEAS ADVENTURE PROGRAM WHICH IS KIND OF A PASSPORT THAT SHOWS YOU AND ENCOURAGES YOU TO VISIT

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IS A GREAT PROGRAM AS WELL. >> SMART.

>> YEAH SO RECREATION, THE OVER ALL BUDGET REQUEST IS ABOUT 5 MILLION DOLLARS ACTUALLY A DECREASE AND THIS IS WHAT PARM LA AND LAUREN MILLER WORK ON ON A YEARLY BASIS AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IS ALSO APART OF THE FEE -- FEE PLAN THAT WAS PRESENTED EARLIER THIS WAS TO LOOK AT A REDUCING OUR CREDIT CARD FEES THAT HAS CONTINUED TO GROW OVER THE YEARS AND WE ARE TAKING A PAGE OUT OF TEXAS FREE VENTURES WHERE SINCE THEIR INEXCEPTION WE PASSED ON THE CREDIT CARD CHARGES TO THEM FROM DAY ONE AND WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THAT FOR GENERAL RECREATIONAL PROGRAMMING AS WELL WHICH WILL SAVE $100,000.

THIS IS NIPS AND TUX. >> THAT'S A MOVE FORWARD.

>> EVERY MUNICIPALITY DOES THAT ANYWAY.

>> A LOT OF FOLKS ARE MOVING TO THIS.

WE'RE NOT ALONE ON THIS, NOPE. >> SO IN TURN WITH THAT ARE YOU ALLOWING REGISTRANTS TO USE THEIR AC LIKE ACH OR ZELL OR SOME OTHER WAY THEY CAN PAY WHERE THERE'S NO FEE.

>> THIS IS ACTUALLY A RESULT OF THE COMPUTER PROGRAM THAT WE USE. WE USE ACTIVE NET AND ACTIVE NET CHARGES THE 3% AND BASICALLY WE'RE NOT TAKING OFF THE 3%, 3 AND A HALF PERCENT WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK ON THE USER AS OPPOSED TO THE TOWNSHIP PAYING THAT INSTEAD OF $100 REGISTRATION FEE WE'RE NETTING THE $100 FEE. SO THE ZELL, I DON'T BELIEVE WE

EXPECT ZELL AS A PAYMENT METHOD. >> CAN SOMEONE COME UP TO THE TOWNSHIP AND SEE OUR GREAT STAFF AND PAY CASH FOR THE POOL PASS.

>> YES. >> I DIDN'T KNOW THAT.

YOU CAN PAY CASH. >> YES.

>> THAT'S GREAT. >> THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TWO RECREATIONAL CENTERS OPEN 6 DAYS A WEEK AND TAKE THE REGISTRATION IF YOU'RE UN. COMFORTABLE WITH ONLINE REGISTRATION.

RECREATION IS A LOT OF LINE ITEMS WHEN WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAMS. WHEN WE LOOK AT 100% COST RECOVERY THIS IS FOR ALL THE STAFF AND THEIR BENEFITS AS WELL AS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE BENEFITS OUTSIDE OF THE CAPITAL COSTS. SO YOU SEE LINE ITEM BY LINE ITEM WHETHER IT BE THE ATHLETIC PROGRAMS WE OFFER EVERYTHING FROM TENNIS TO SOCCER TO PICKLEBALL DOWN TO THE RECREATIONAL PROGRAMS AND THE VERY SULF SUNNY DAY PROGRAM ON AVERAGE HAS 200 PLUS KIDS AT EACH CAMP THROUGH ALL 10, 11 WEEKS OF THE SUMMER CAMP THAT WE'RE PROVIDING AND THEN IT GOES

INTO THE ADMINISTRATIVE EXPENSES >> CAN YOU GO BACK FOR A

SECOND, WHAT IS THE 5K SERIES. >> THOSE ARE THE 5K SERIES BECAUSE IT'S MORE OF A REVENUE GENERATING PROGRAM IT'S A REVENUE NEUTRAL ACTUALLY MAKE MONEY OFF THE 5KS.

THAT'S YOUR GLOW AND GO PROGRAM, THAT'S YOUR SWEETHEART RACE AND THE FIRE CRACKER THAT'S WHERE THAT MONEY IS ALOLOTTED TO.

SO YOU SEE HERE WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING VERY WELL AT ABOUT 111%.

>> DID YOU SAY 5K WAS A ONE-OFF. >> IT WAS A ONE-OFF.

>> WAS A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. >> VERY.

>> CAN WE NOT IMPLEMENT IT AGAIN?

[LAUGHTER]. >> I HAVE STAFF WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW THAT ARE TRYING TO ALSO PUT ON 125,000 4TH OF JULY EVENT TOO. THOSE 5K EVENTS ARE VERY SUCCESSFUL AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE DOING IS WORKING AT TRYING TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS BECAUSE WE DO HAVE WAIT LIST BUT ALSO NOT BLOW IT OUT TO 1600, 2,000 AND COMPRESSING THE EXPERIENCE

BUT WE CAN TALK. >> TO THE POINT, EXCUSE ME, ON DIRECTOR'S COMMENT ABOUT THE 5K AND MAKING IT PERMANENT, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYONE HERE HEAR'S THIS BUT I GET COMPLAINTS FROM NOT 5KS PER SE BUT COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS WHO DON'T LIKE THE ROAD BLOCKS THAT HAPPEN DURING THE IRON MAN AND DURING THE VARIOUS THINGS THAT TIE UP THE ROADS.

SO AM I RIGHT? 5KS DON'T CAUSE BLOCKAGE OF THE

ROADS. >> SPECIFICALLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE MOVED TO THE WATERWAY RACE SCIRCUIT REDUCE TE IMPACT ON THE ROADS AND CLOSURES.

THESE DO NOT REQUIRE ANY ROAD COLOURS.

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>> I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. >> ONCE WE GOT FULL ACCESS TO THE WATERWAY IN 2023 THAT'S WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THAT CONCERN DR. SHELLY THAT MANY RESIDENTS HAVE AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN AS WELL.

>> AND IT ALSO SAVES SOME MONEY TOO BECAUSE WE NEED LESS POLICE

SUPPORT AND THINGS LIKE THAT. >> DIRECTOR LAMB, THAT IS THE KEY OF WHY WE MOVED THE RACES THERE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF SHERIFF'S OFFICERS WE NEEDED TO HAVE TO CONTROL THE STREETS, NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO WAS ALSO THE TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES THAT WERE REQUIRED BY THE COUNTY'S TRAFFIC CONTROL PLANS WERE VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE. AND SO WE'RE REALLY DOWN TO ABOUT 2 OFFICERS FOR THESE RACES VERSES IN YEARS PAST THE T TRIATHLON WAS THE MOST CHALLENGING WHERE THERE WERE 100

OFFICERS. >> 5KS ARE GREAT, A GREAT LOCAL BUT HONESTLY FROM MY -- THIS IS THE CHAIR'S ON THEY DO NOT PUT HEADS IN BEDS, YES IT MAY TIE UP A LITTLE BIT NOW WE GO ON THE TOLL ROAD WHERE WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE WOODLANDS YES IT MAY TIE UP A LITTLE BIT BUT ALL IN ALL, THE HAMENT WE GET AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT IS WORTH THAT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

>> THAT NUMBER IS HOW MANY MILLIONS.

>> 15 TO 20 MILLION. >> IT'S NOT INSIGNIFICANT.

>> IT'S NOT SOFA CHANGE IT'S REAL.

>> AND THE 5K YOU CAN WRAP AROUND OTHER EVENTS TO PUT HEADS IN BEDS POSSIBLY AND THOSE ARE POSSIBLE WITH THE 5KS TOO.

>> AND I THINK TO ADD TO DIRECTOR'S NELSON'S COMMENT WHEN WE DO HEAR ABOUT RACES THAT WANT TO COME INTO THE COMMUNITIES, THOSE DISCUSSION POINTS ABOUT HOW DO WE MINIMIZE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ARE PART OF THAT DISCUSSION.

>> YOU KNOW, SHELLY THERE IS A NUMBER TO CALL FOR PEOPLE THAT

ARE VERY UPSET AND. >> I THOUGHT IT WAS MY NUMBER.

[LAUGHTER]. >> IT MUST BE.

BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING THE CALLS.

WE HAVE SOMEBODY MANNING A PHONE THE ENTIRE TIME AND IT'S A HANDFUL THAT THEY GET SO MAYBE THEY ARE ALL CALLING YOU BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING THOSE COMPLAINTS AT ALL BECAUSE PEOPLE KNOW NOW THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.

>> CHRIS, CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE SLIDE.

I THINK THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT SLIDE BECAUSE AS RESIDENTS MIGHT BE CURIOUS THEY SEE THESE EVENTS AND THEY SEE RECREATION AND REALIZING IT'S ACTUALLY PROFITABLE.

NOT ONLY DO THE POOLS AND ALL THESE THINGS TOGETHER.

>> DIRECTOR LAMB I WANT TO BE VERY, VERY CAREFUL WE TALK ABOUT RECREATION AND EVENTS IN A SEPARATE LINE ITEM BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COMPLETE BUDGET FOR TOWNSHIP EVENTS WHICH IS NOT UNDER THE COST RECOVERY PROTOCOLS.

>> RIGHT. I SHOULD SAY THIS ALL THE THINGS YOU LISTED HERE PUTS US AT 111% RECOVERY VERSES TAX PAYERS THINKING IF THEY DON'T LIKE THE EVENT THAT THEY ARE THINKING OH MY MONEY BUT IT'S ACTUALLY COST SURVIVOR.

>> THAT SUMMER CAMP PROGRAM IS NOT CAUSING TAX IT'S A DIRECT USE TAX THERE THE OTHER THING I LIKE TO DO IS TALK ABOUT THAT WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS WELL WE DO STRIVE TO MAIN THAT 100% COST RECOVERY NUMBERS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROGRAMS WITHIN THE RECREATION GROUP THAT ARE FREE OR VERY, VERY LOW COST, $15, $20 PROGRAM SO IT'S NOT JUST ALL OR WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT PROGRAMS THAT ARE JUST GENERATING REVENUE AND SUCCESS THAT IS THERE'S A BALANCE OF PROGRAMS PROVIDED FROM A

COMMUNITY ASPECT. >> I THINK PREVIOUSLY WHEN YOU SHOWED AKUWAITIC SLIDES AND LOOK AT THAT AND SAY 50% BUT I THINK IT ALL BALANCES ALL IT'S IMPORTANT TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW

THAT. >> ANY TALKING ABOUT A 5 K HOW

MUCH RECOVERY 5K GENERATES. >> NETTING I WANT TO SAY 15 TO 17 18,000 DOLLARS FOR EXPENSES

>> MORE THAN 5K FOR A 5K. >> THAT'S TAKING ON THE WATERWAY

THOSE ARE EXPENSES ELEMENTS. >> DO YOU FIND THE BUSINESSES ALONG THE WATERWAY ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE THE 5KS?

DO YOU HEAR FROM THEM? >> NO BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ABOUT A HANDFUL OF BUSINESSES AND DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF THE RACES SOME ARE EARLIER MORNING AND SOME ARE LATER NIGHTS AND WE MODIFY THAT TO YOUR POINT NOT NECESSARILY ON THE STREETS OR WATERWAY WE ARE VERY, VERY CAUTION ON THE NUMBER OF RACES WE'RE PUTTING DOWN THERE WHETHER IT BE OURS OR THIRD PARTY.

WE ACTUALLY HAD A HALF MARATHON THERE ABOUT A MONTH AGO NOW WITH 300 PEOPLE SO WE'RE KEEPING AN EYE ON THAT AND WE ALSO IN YOUR SPECIAL EVENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PROVISIONS IN THERE THAT WE ARE TAKING TO THE WATERWAY AS WELL

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>> AND MORE PEOPLE LIVE THERE NOW.

>> THAT'S TRUE. ESPECIALLY DIRECTOR FRANKS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. VIPS LIVE THERE.

>> BUT ALSO I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OTHER END OF IT HOW MANY PEOPLE LOVE PARTICIPATING IN THOSE EVENTS? THEY HAVE SO MANY THAT WE CAN'T EVEN HANDLE ALL OF THEM SO THAT'S A BIG SATISFIER FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THOSE.

>> I'VE BEEN TO THOSE. >> THOSE ARE EXCITING AND THEY HAVE THE WHOLE FAMILY OUT THERE AND THEY ARE IN THE PARK AND

THEY HAVE THINGS TO DO. >> WHEN I WAS YOUNG I USED TO

RUN IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT. >> WE'RE SIGNING DR. SHELLY UP.

>> THE IRON MAN IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE COMMUNITY COMING TOGETHER AND THE PEOPLE COME AND CHEER AND THIS COMMUNITY

ENGAGEMENT IS AMAZING. >> AND THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THOSE EVENTS IS -- CANNOT BE DISCOUNTED IN TERMS OF THE RESTAURANTS AND THE BARS AND HOSPITALS AND FIRST AID FOR THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. [LAUGHTER].

>> BRING EM ON. >> SOMEONE THAT WORKS ON WE NEED TO REALLY EXPLAIN THINGS IN BETTER WHEN WE GET ALL TO TALK TO THOSE FOLKS ABOUT THE ECONOMIC SO COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, YES THERE'S TRAFFICS AND PEOPLE GOING TO THE RESTAURANTS AND GOING TO THE MALL AND GOING TO MARKET STREET SPENDING MONEY AND ALLOWS US TO KEEP OUR RATES WHERE THEY ARE.

I THINK IT'S A BONUS ON BOTH SIDES.

IT'S AN INCONVENIENCE FROM TIME TO TIME, YES IT IS BUT WORTH IT

CERTAINLY IN THE LONG RUN. >> I THINK RICHARD LIVING THERE NOW AND I WORK THERE ON THE WATERWAY I AM SHOCKED THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT RUN AND JOG AND DO WALKING AND I'M ALSO SHOCKED EQUALLY OF THE RUNNING CLUBS OUT THERE THAT THEN GO TO HAPPY HOUR AFTER THEY RUN BECAUSE THEY BURNED A BUNCH OF CALORIES AND THEY GO TO LOCAL RESTAURANTS AND BARS AND THAT AND I THINK IT'S

PART OF WHAT OUR DNA IS. >> ABSOLUTELY.

>> IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO AND I THINK IT'S A PLUS PLUS IN THE

END. >> WE'LL SPEAKING OF THE WATERWAY, THE BUDGET FOR THE WATERWAY AND THE ENTIRE TOWN CENTER AREA IS A SEPARATE DIVISION WITHIN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. YOU SEE SOME CONTRACTED MAINTENANCE EXPENSES ARE COMING UP.

WE WILL BELIEVE EARLIER THIS YEAR WE PRESENTED SOME DIFFERENT MAINTENANCE OPTIONS FOR YOU, PART OF THAT TOO IS LUMPED INTO WHAT WE'LL BE PRESENTING THURSDAY NIGHT WITH THE STREET SCAPE MAINTENANCE OPERATION, TOWN CENTER IS A COMPONENT OF THAT AS WELL IN ADDITION TO THE WATERWAY AND WE CONTINUE TO MODIFY AND TWEAK THE HOLIDAY SEASONAL LIGHTING PROGRAM AGAIN THAT WAS A SUCCESS DUE TO THE LEADERSHIP OF THE BOARD THE LAST TWO YEARS CONTINUING TO RETHINKING THAT PROGRAM OF HOW TO DRAW MORE AND USE THE HOLIDAY SEASON AS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE FOR THE TOWNSHIP AS WELL. SO WE SEE OUR SALARY AND BENEFITS, EQUIPMENT STANDARD ITEMS THERE THAT REFLECT THE 3% STAFF INCREASE AND WE GO INTO A BALANCE BETWEEN MAINTENANCE EXPENSE AS WELL AS CONTRACTED EXPENSE.

MOST OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU START SEEING IN HERE ARE A LOT OF GIVE AND TAKES WHERE WE ARE BASICALLY IN THAT TOWN CENTER AREA OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE WATERWAY SINCE 2003, 2004 SO WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND WHERE THE RIGHT LINE ITEMS ARE FOR THESE EXPENSES AS WELL. AND WE DID SEE SOME SAVINGS AND TREE LIGHTING WHICH IS OUR YEAR ROUND DISPLAYS NOT THE HOLIDAY DISPLAYS. I THINK WE'RE APPROACHING ALMOST 1,000 TREES IN THE SYSTEM ON THAT ALONE SO THAT INCLUDES SOME

EASE LIGHTING TREES AS WELL. >> CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT GROGGEN'S MILL. THAT LOOKS TO BE ELEVATED.

>> GROWINGEN'S MILL. >> UNDER CONTRACTED SERVICES.

>> THE 9669 GROGGEN'S MILL. >> THAT IS THE GE BETS BUILDING.

THAT'S BASICALLY TO PROVIDE SOME ELECTRICITY AND LIGHT AND DOLLARS TO MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY UNTIL A DETERMINATION HAS BEEN MADE ON WHAT THAT PROPERTY IS GOING TO BE USED

FOR. >> INTERESTING

>> THERE'S MOWING AND LAMPS OUT THERE WE PROVIDE SUPPORT SERVICE, EXCUSE ME, WE ALLOW THE PA VILFIAN TO PARK THERE WHICH MAKES SENSE WITH PARKING CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE THERE USED AS SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE 4TH OF JULY PARADE AND OVER FLO

FOR PARKING FOR MARKET STREET. >> HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN SOME CONSIDERATION TO MONETIZING THE SURFACE LOT THERE THAT'S I MEAN 12 ACRES INTO SOME SORT OF PARKING -- EVENT PARKING WHERE WE ACTUALLY COULD CHARGE FOR THAT?

>> THERE'S ACTUALLY SIGNS YOU CAN'T PARK THERE, IS THAT RIGHT

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DURING EVENTS. >> WE WORK WITH PA VILLIAN.

THERE MAY BE 100 PLUS OR MINUS SPOTS THERE.

WE HAVE NOT THOUGHT ABOUT MONETIZING IT.

WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR FUTURE.

>> I LIKE THAT IDEA. ESPECIALLY FOR SPECIAL EVENTS IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE NEW OWNER OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND LIBRARY IS CHARGING FOR MAJOR CONCERTS YOUR JAW WOULD DROP.

IT'S UNREAL. SO GUESS WHAT.

>> PEOPLE WILL PAY. >> FOR THOSE BIG CONCERTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHY NOT MAKE THAT A LINE ITEM WE CAN PROFIT

ON. >> I THINK THAT -- PLEASE LOOK

INTO IT. >> I'VE SEEN FOR THAT 25, 50 FEES FOR THE LIBRARY COMMUNITY CENTER LOT.

>> I THINK THE NEIGHBORS WHO LIVE AROUND THERE WOULD

APPRECIATE IT TOO. >> THANK YOU.

>> TOWNSHIP EVENTS, THIS IS WHAT I WAS DIRECTOR LAMB WAS MENTIONING A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RECREATION AND COMMUNITY EVENTS.

THESE ARE MORE COMMUNITY FOCUSED EVENTS.

>> CAN YOU GO BACK, CAN YOU GO BACK.

WATERWAY MAINTENANCE, SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT LATER IS STATE OF THE WATER IN THE WATERWAY.

IT'S PRETTY STAGNANT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED FILTRATION LIKE AIRATION THINGS UP AND DOWN IT TO KIND OF CLEAR OUT BUT IT'S -- THERE'S DAYS IT LOOKS PRETTY LIKE A DITCH OF

STILL WATER. >> WELL, IN JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND THAT WATERWAY COLLECTING S ALL THE WATER FROM THE PARKING LOTS TO THE WATERWAY SO, OF COURSE, IT IS NOT A WHAT I WOULD SAY IS NATURAL SPRING BY ANY MEANS.

I WILL SAY THAT THE WATER QUALITY IN TERMS OF VEGETATION GROWTH, ALGAE, ET CETERA, ET CETERA HAS BEEN DRAMATICALLY IMPROVED OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS SINCE WE TOOK IT OVER.

THE MAINTENANCE PROTOCOLS PRIOR TO US TAKING IT OVER IN 2023 WERE AS NEEDED AND WE HAVE LAKE PRO, WHICH IS OUR LAKE AND POND CONTRACTOR OUT THERE 48 TIMES A YEAR MONITORING THE WATER AS WELL AS THEN TREATING IF NECESSARY FROM THERE BUT TO YOUR POINT, AIRATION IS A GREAT OPTION AND ACTUALLY IT'S A REASONABLE COST OPTION AS WELL TO TRY TO GET MORE OXYGEN IN THAT WATER AND THEN KEEP IT MOVING AS WELL.

>> THERE ARE CURRENTLY LIKE BUBBLERS.

>> THOSE ARE THE AIRATION DEVICES.

>> THERE'S THREE OR SIX IN THERE?

SIX. >> COULD YOU DO MORE LIKE NOT CRAZY POFOUNTAINS BUT SPRAY UP D DOWN IT.

>> WHAT WOULD HELP THE MOST IS ACTUALLY MOVING THE WATER OUTSIDE OF AIRATION WHERE WE'RE MOVING IT EARLY EITHER BACK AND FORTH TO GET THE MOVEMENT OF WATER BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE AIRATION IS REALLY GOOD, ONE LEVEL FROM THE TOP LEVEL BUT IT'S THE BOTTOM LEVEL THAT'S REALLY NOT MOVING UNTIL A STORM COMES AND CLEARS THE WATER OUT AND DROPS INTO WOODLANDS AND

DROP OUT. >> SOMETHING I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IN MY INITIATIVES. IN TERMS OF EVENTS WE HAVE THE DECREASE FOR NEXT YEAR, WE PUT A ONE-TIME EXPENSE THERE FOR THE DRONE SHOW ABOUT 109,000 DOLLARS THERE.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF UNDERSTANDING OF THE TOWNSHIP EVENTS THIS BUDGET HAS STAYED FAIRLY FLAT OVER THE YEARS WITH MINOR TWEAKS TO THE 4TH OF JULY LAST YEAR AS WELL AS 2024 FOR THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY FOR THE COMMUNITY.

YOU SEE CONCERTS IN THE PARKS, ARTS IN THE PARKS, ROCK THE ROW AND SOME OF OUR BIGGER PROGRAMS LIKE RED, HOT AND BLUE, LIGHTING OF THE DOVES, THE ICE RINK AS WELL AS MORE LABOUR DAY EVEN DOWN TO WE HAVE OUR 9/11 REMEMBRANCE A COUPLE OF WEEKS FROM TODAY. I WAS WAITING FOR HER.

DID I JUST SKIP IT? >> YOU LOOKING FOR THAT.

>> YES, SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IN YOUR HAND OUT THERE THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE EVENTS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE IS THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS FOR EVENT PRODUCTION AS WELL AS LAW ENFORCEMENT PROVIDING SECURITY SERVICES, THESE EVENTS ARE VERY LARGE.

WE JUST HAD 150,000 PEOPLE FOR 4TH OF JULY ALONE.

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SO. >> WHAT WAS THAT NUMBER.

>> 125 TO 150,000. >> IT WAS GOOD THOUGH.

>> IF YOU LOOK AT MY COMPUTER YOU'LL SEE THE ENTIRE BRIDGE AT NORTH SHORE THAT WAS JUST ONE OF FIVE LOCATIONS I'VE NEVER SEEN IT THAT THICK WITH PEOPLE. SO AGAIN, IT WAS A 250TH ANNIVERSARY BUT WE KNOW THAT DAY IN GENERAL IS WELL OVER 150,000 PEOPLE IN THE TOWN CENTER AREA SO THAT REQUIRES SECURITY SO EVEN PROGRAMS LIKE WATERWAY NIGHTS WE STAFF THEM WITH TWO OFFICERS FOR THAT AND I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY PEOPLE COME TO THESE EVENTS IS BECAUSE THE SAFETY AND SECURITY THAT IS BEING PROVIDED BY OUR LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AND, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THOSE.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY WAY OF MEASURING WHETHER THOSE PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY HERE WHO COME TO OUR SMALLER EVENTS LIKE THESE

>> SO THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION, DR. SHELLY, WITHIN -- WE TRIED AN AI PROGRAM EARLIER THIS YEAR TO REALLY TRACK CELL PHONE DATA.

AND IT WAS NOT GIVING US THE RESULTS THAT WE REALLY WERE ANTICIPATING FOR THE 4TH OF JULY AT NORTH SHORE PARK THEY SAID WE HAD 150 PEOPLE THERE LAST YEAR AND I KNOW THERE WAS MORE AND I BATTLED WITH THEM TO SAY WHAT PERCENTAGE OF PHONES IS THAT THEY ARE TRACKING THE PHONE DATA OF WHERE ARE YOU GOING BEFORE OR AFTER TO REALLY ADDRESS YOUR COMMENT OF CAN WE SEE THAT THERE IS A BEFORE OR AFTER SPEND HEY LISTEN I WENT TO DINNER AT MARKET STREET AND THEN I WENT TO THE PARK AT NORTH SHORE PARK AND THEN WE CAN TRACK THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE IN THE 2027 BUDGET IS A NEW PROGRAM THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COSTLY BUT I THINK IT'S MORE ROBUST FROM TALKING TO COLLEAGUES FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE QUG.

>> GREAT. I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING ABOUT

THAT. >> WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT TOO.

>> CHRIS CAN YOU GO BACK ONE MORE, THE DATA SERVICES, IS THAT

THE EXTRA CELL PHONE MODULES. >> YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STAR

LINK I THINK? >> MAYBE NOT STAR LINK, WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT BUT IN THESE MAJOR EVENTS BOOSTING THE CELL

PHONE COVERAGE. >> SURE AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THOSE IN OUR PARK OPERATIONS BUDGET.

>> YEAH BUT WE NEED TO BRING IN LIKE AT&T OR BIG BOOSTERS FOR FIRE WORKS AND THE EXTRAVE BEGANA.

THAT'S WORKING BEYOND THE CAPACITY ANY PHONE CAN WORK UNLESS YOU HAVE MASSIVE BACKUP. CAPACITY ANY PHONE CAN WORK

UNLESS YOU HAVE MASSIVE BACKUP. >> DATA SERVICES IS MOBILE HOT

SPOTS FOR THE TEAM. >> GOT YEAH.

>> STREET SCAPE OPERATIONS IS THE LARGEST, WHY IT'S SO LARGE IS 4 STREET OPERATIONS IS INCLUDED IN THIS.

WE HAVE PATHWAY OPERATIONS AS WELL AND I KNOW CHRISTIAN SEN IS HERE ABOUT THAT MATTER AND WE HAVE CUL-DE-SACS AND REMEMBER WE MAINTAIN ALMOST 150 CULL-DE-SAC SO THERE'S A LOT TO 68 PLUS OR MINUS NEIGHBORHOOD ENTRANCES THAT ARE MAINTAINED AND WE WILL WILL COMING TO YOU ON THURSDAY WITH BIDS FOR NEW SERVICES AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A JUMP ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU GET A LITTLE BIT -- A LOT OF A JUMP INTO STREET SCAPE MAINTENANCE IN THAT LINE ITEM UNDER CONTRACTUAL SERVICES BECAUSE COSTS HAVE GONE UP FOR THIS.

WE HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO MANAGE THE COSTS AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU ON THURSDAY IS ACTUALLY BREAKING UP THE ENTIRE SYSTEM INTO A NORTH ZONE AND A SOUTH ZONE AND PRESENTING THAT AS BIDS AS WELL AS STREET SWEEPING THAT IS IN HERE. AND WHAT WE CALL STREET TREE MANTS WHICH IS MORE OF WHERE YOU LOOK ATINTENANCE WHICH IS MORE WHERE YOU LOOK AT TREES IN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER AREA AND SPECIALIZATION OF FERTILIZING AND TRIMMINGS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. WE HAVE WORKED THROUGH A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT IDEAS ON HOW TO MANAGE THE COSTS AND ALSO DELIVERY OF SERVICES BECAUSE WE DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GETTING WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING THROUGH THE BIDS RIGHT NOW AND SO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS A DIFFERENT WAY AND MODELLING IT OFF OF PARK OPERATIONS A FEW YEARS AGO AND BROKE UP THE PARK OPERATIONS TO ABOUT 4 OR 5 DIFFERENT OF HAVING A LEVEL OF SUCCESS THAT'S GREATER THAN PREVIOUS WE'RE TRYING TO MODEL THAT.

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>> DOES THIS INCLUDE THE PAINTING OF ALL THE BACK OF THE SIGNS AND NEW SIGNS THAT GET ERECTED? I THINKITE IMPORTANT. I HAD NEW STAFF I DROVE AROUND WOODLANDS THE OTHER DAY AND WHY DO THEY PAINT THE BACK OF THE

TREE SIGNS BROWN AND HEY. >> DETAILS.

>> YES, THE DETAILS AND LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT AND MAKING SURE WE COORDINATE WITH THE COMMISSIONER'S OFFICES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN NEW ONES GET ERECTED WE'RE ON TOP OF THAT AND THEY THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT. THIS IS NOT PATHWAYS; RIGHT?

>> IT IS PATHWAYS BECAUSE THIS IS AN IN-HOUSE CREW SO WE HAVE FIVE GUYS ON THAT STAFF RIGHT NOW, STAFF LEVEL THERE AND THE REQUEST IS FOR THE ADDITIONAL ONE.

THE MAINTENANCE THOSE CREWS DO IS WE MOW THE SIDES TO THE THREE FEET ON A MONTHLY BASIS. WE WILL BLOW ON A WEEKLY BASIS.

WE WILL THEN DO TRIMMING OPERATIONS AS NEEDED TO KEEP A CANOPY 2 TO 3 FEET OFF THE SIDES AND 8 TO 10 FEET OFF THE TOP THEORETICALLY IT IS SOME WAY RIDING THE BICYCLE AND WE HAVE TO DO SUPPLEMENTAL PATHWAY MAINTENANCE WHEN THE STORMS COME IN TO DO A CLEANUP AND THAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST PRIORITIES IF WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COUNT AN OR NOT WORKING WITH THE COUNTY DEPENDS ON THE STORM WE TRY TO WORK WITH THEM AND THEN TRY TO GO RIGHT TO THE PATHWAYS BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A CRITICAL LINK FOR SCHOOL CHILDREN AND PARENTS ET CETERA ET CETERA AND HAVE SOME LEVEL OF NORMALCY AFTER A STORM.

A STORM CLEANUP WE HAD VERY OR WHAT WAS IT TWO YEARS AGO.

>> BARREL. >> BARREL.

THANK YOU. BECAUSE WE HAVE 200 ACRES, EXCUSE ME, 2000 -- 200 MILES OF PATHWAYS IT TAKES US MONTH TO GET THROUGH THE SYSTEM AND REALLOCATE THE STAFF.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE ALSO DONE THAT YOU SAW POTENTIALLY IN YOUR WEEKLY REPORTS THAT MONIQUE PROVIDES IS WE WILL SOMETIMES TAKE PEOPLE OFF OF THE CUL-DE-SAC CREWS TO TRY TO REDISPLAY THOSE BECAUSE FOLKS ARE OUT THERE ON A DAILY BASIS

WALKING. >> I HAVE A DISCUSSION I WOULD LIKE TO TOSS AND GREAT NEWS ABOUT THIS, THIS COSTS ZERO.

BUT I HAVE SEEN SO MANY GROUPS TO THE CITY -- I USED TO BE ON CITY COUNCILS DOES A BEAUTIFICATION TODAY AND KINGWOOD UNDER COUNCIL MEMBER FRED FLICK ER GER DID A DAY LETS DO A TEST CASE LET'S DO A COUPLE OF NEIGHBOURHOODS WITHIN THAT BEAUTIFICATION DAY THEY ARE TRYING TO CLEAR OUT THE TREES AND LIMBS AND PULLING THEM OUT TO THE ROADS AND BLOWING AND CUTTING THE LAWN TOOLS AND BRINGING OUT THERE AND WORKING WITH STAFF COMBINED PICKING IT UP ON SATURDAY MORNING FROM 8 TO NOON. I KNOW PROBABLY MAKES YOU UNCOMFORTABLE CHRIS BECAUSE I KNOW I'VE TALKED TO YOU A LITTLE BIT BEFORE YOU I JUST THINK SO MANY PEOPLE WOULD BE WILLING TO DO THAT AND IT WOULD HELP THE TOWNSHIP OUT AND THERE WOULD BE STAFF HAVING TO WORK ON A SATURDAY BUT YOU COULD REALLY HIT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND LIMBS THAT ARE ON OUR PATHWAYS IN AND AROUND PARK THAT IS WOULD REALLY KIND OF HELP THE OVERALL BEAUTIFICATION AND VEGE

VEGETATION. >> SURE AND THAT MODEL IS ALREADY -- HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE PREVIOUS YEARS WE KIND OF MODIFIED IT BUT IT WASN'T RELATED TO LIMBS AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF FOR MANY YEARS THERE WAS A CLEAN UP GREEN UP PROGRAM THAT COMMUNITY GROUPS LIKE A FAMILY WOULD TAKE A SPOT ON A PATHWAY AND CLEANUP TRASH AND SO THE MODEL ALREADY EXISTS WE JUST

NEED TO REFRAME THAT MODEL. >> AND WORK WITH ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND WE COULD WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS TO GET THE WORD OUT AND WORK WITH VILLAGE ASSOCIATIONS.

I JUST THINK WE HAVE THE VERY PEOPLE LOVED THE COMMUNITY SERVICES IN THE COMMUNITY AND THE LOOK AND THE FEEL OF IT BUT IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET TOGETHER AND I DON'T THINK BESIDES HAVING STAFF ON A SATURDAY AND MAYBE HAVING EQUIPMENT TO PICK THINGS UP WOULD BE A MASSIVE COST.

>> I'D HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

>> I LIKE THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT ON AND COORDINATING WITH THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATIONS SPECIFICALLY.

AND LETTING THEM FIND THE VOLUNTEERS AND PROMOTE IT.

>> AND THEN MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR THEY WILL JUST KEEP AN EYE ON THAT AND BE MORE AWARE IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE AND

DO IT THEMSELVES. >> LIKE ADOPT A PATH.

>> YEAH, AND MR. CHRISTIANSON'S NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A BIG STEP WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE EVERYTHING IS LOCATED THROUGH THE DOCUMENT IT WAS IMPRESSIVE YOU WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.

>> IF YOU CAN JUST DO THAT EVERYWHERE

>> MAYBE YOU BE HEAD UP THIS WHOLE INITIATIVE.

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>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THAT BREAK, CHRIS.

APPRECIATE IT. >> GOOD JOB.

>> OKAY. WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH NEIGHBORHOOD AND ENVIRONMENTAL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING SO THE NEXT DEPARTMENT IS COMING IN ADMINISTRATION.

>> CAN WE TAKE A LITTLE BREAK. >> THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.

>> OKAY IT'S 10:40 A.M. WE'RE GOING TO.

>> : 10:35. A.M., WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

IN LOOKING AT THE10:35. A.M., WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

IN LOOKING AT THE10:35. A.M., WE ARE BACK IN SESSION.

IN LOOKING AT THE -- OUR GOAL IS TO GET THROUGH THE KCOVENANT GHN ADMINISTRATION BEFORE WRAPPING UP IT'S FINISH THE TRANSPORTATION FUNDS THROUGH 158 AND START WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS TOMORROW, IS THAT CORRECT MONIQUE.

DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? SO 135 TO 158 WE HAVE LEFT TODAY. SO WITH THAT, TURN IT OVER TO

MONIQUE. >> OKAY GREAT, THANK YOU.

AGAIN THIS IS THE COVENANT ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT AND 4.5 MILLION DOLLAR BUDGET ABOUT 165,000 DOLLAR INCREASE, MOST OF THAT IS RELATED TO STAFF EDI EDITIONS. YOU CAN SEE THE INCREASES THERE AND THEN THERE'S VARIOUS -- THEY HAVE TRAINING AND CONFERENCES BUDGETED AND INCREASED FOR THE TILE -- FOR THE NEW SYSTEM THAT THEY ARE WORKING ON, NEWISH AND WE HAVE A LET'S SEE A 20,000 FOR PROPERTIES THAT NEED TO HAVE ENFORCEMENT ON THEM THIS IS A POT OF MONEY THAT CAN BE USED TO DO THAT AND THEN WE TYPICALLY GET IT RECOVERED THROUGH LEGAL FEES IF NECESSARY.

AND POSTAGE AND DELIVERY INCREASE IS RELATED BECAUSE WE ARE STEPPING UP ENFORCEMENT AND SENDING OUT A LOT MORE NOTIFICATIONS WITH THE RE ORG ORGANIZATION OF THE DEPARTMENT THAT WE ZPLAND EXPLAINED EARLIER THIS YEAR AND POSTAGE COSTS ARE GOING UP RELATED TO THAT. ANY QUESTIONS ON COVENANTS.

>> ARE WE GOING TO BUDGET ISSUANCE FROM COVENANTS.

>> WE DO NOT. >> WE DO NOT.

DO WE TALK ABOUT IT DURING INITIATIVES BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE COVENANTS AND COVENANTS ADMINISTRATION DEPARTMENT NEEDS, WE GOT TO LOOK AT THE TECHNOLOGY ASPECT OF THIS.

>> I'M SORRY, WILLIAM SO IN HIS PRESENTATION TOMORROW HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY INITIATED AND WHERE WE PLAN TO GO WITH TECHNOLOGY AND THE COVENANT AND ADMIN DEPARTMENT. SO YES.

SO THAT WILL BE PART OF HIS PRESENTATION.

>> OKAY. >> AND THERE'S AN ASK WITH THAT.

THERE IS A TRAINING COST AND AN INFRASTRUCTURE COST RELATED TO

THAT. >> IS IT BECAUSE IT LANDS IN THE TECHNOLOGY BUCKET BUT IS LEVERAGED OVER TO THE --

>> YES, SO WE CENTRALIZE TECHNOLOGY.

>> POSTAGE, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE LEGAL PROCEDURES THAT THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH AND NOTIFYING HOMEOWNERS AND WHAT NOT.

>> CORRECT. CORRECT.

YES, SIR. >> WHICH STILL IS AN ANTIQUATED WAY OF DOING IT. VERY SLOW PROCESS.

>> HOW DO WE REIMAGINE THIS? YOU HEARD ME TALK EARLIER ABOUT IT BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING ALONG WITH THE SAME OLD SYSTEM THAT WE'VE GOT AND YOU GOT THE DEVELOPER THERE AND YOU GOT THESE TWO OLD GUYS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOREVER AND THEY TELL WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO AND YOU GET THE TOWNSHIP BOARD MEMBERS THERE, OR THE TOWNSHIP APPOINTS PEOPLE TO THE DSC AND RDC, AND ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT ACRONYMS.

>> MAYBE IT'S JUST BENCHMARKING. >> IT SEEMS ARCHAIC.

IT SEEMS LIKE A TOTALLY -- I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE A HARD CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH OTHER PEOPLE BUT I THINK IT'S TIME WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE IT'S CUMBER SOME AND BURDENSOME, IT'S EVERYTHING.

AND I JUST ANY TECHNOLOGY-WISE, WE BOUGHT TECHNOLOGY A FEW YEARS AGO I UNDERSTAND -- I DON'T KNOW HOW WILL THAT'S DOING AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A REPORT ON HOW WELL THAT'S DOING AND NOT DOING AND I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR FROM THE COVENANTS DEPARTMENT ON THAT BUT WE GOT TO STREAM LINE THINGS AND MAKE IT EASIER. MAYBE IT'S NOT THE DISCUSSION WE NEED TO HAVE IN THIS BUDGET MEET BUG IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO START LOOKING AT AND I THINK BRINGING PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC IN TO SERVE ON AD HOC COMMITTEES WITH TOWNSHIP STAFF TO LOOK AT STUFF LIKE THAT, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT Y'ALL BUT I GET A LOT OF PHONE CALLS ON THIS. A LOT.

NOT JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT FEES AND LETTERS BUT HOUSES THAT

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>> AND ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE MAKING SURE IT'S NOT LIKE A PAIN FOR NEW BUSINESSES TO COME HERE TO BRING REVENUE AND YOU KNOW TO HIRE PEOPLE I THINK THAT'S THE PART TOO WE HAVE TO LOOK AT.

>> I THINK YOU SHOULD POINT OUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY INPUT ON THE

COMMERCIAL SIDE. >> BRETT, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE

THIS? >> SURE.

STARTING WITH DR. SHELLY WHAT SHE JUST SAID AND A LITTLE BACKGROUND IS REQUIRED, ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE YOU ARE CORRECT, THE COMMERCIAL STANDARDS COMMITTEE IS THE COMMITTEE WHICH IS CONTROLLED BY HOWARD HUGHES FOR THE MOST PART DICTATES THE STANDARDS BUT THERE IS CERTAIN THINGS DELICATED TO THE DSC WHERE WE HAVE PROCESS AND CONTROL RELATED TO REDEVELOPMENT AND MODIFICATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SO IT'S NOT COMPLETELY THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL BUT IF IT'S NEW DEVELOPMENT WE DON'T AND GETTING TO THE ISSUE THERE THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS IN THE COVENANTS RELATED TO APPOINTMENTS AND THE STRUCTURE OF THE COMMITTEES FOR EXAMPLE THE RDCCS ARE ELECTED POSITIONS THAT'S IN THE COVENANTS AND THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO MODIFY THAT UNLESS YOU CHANGE THE COVENANTS WHICH REQUIRES A MAJORITY OF THE OWNERS OF THE PRO PROPERTIES WHICH WOULD BE A MONUMENTAL TASK.

BUT I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO STREAM LINE PROCESSES AND WE DO WORK TO TRY TO MAKE THEM MORE MODERN AND PUT ROAD BLOCKS AND GET ROAD BLOCKS OUT OF THE WAY TO GET CERTAIN THINGS DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT THERE ARE BUSINESSES WHO SAY IT'S HARD TO DO BUSINESS HERE BECAUSE OF THE STANDARDS.

I AGREE IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT FROM A BUDGETARY PERSPECTIVE, I AGREE, TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT BUT I THINK THOSE ARE ALL VERY GOOD POINTS.

>> THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO COME IN HERE AND MAYBE LIKE I SAY THAT ON A SIGNAGE SITUATION THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS LIKE WELL, THEN MAYBE THEY PICK SOMEONE OUTSIDE THE WOODLAND AND AS WE WANT THEM TO BE HERE AND I THINK SOME THINGS CAN BE LOOKED AT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS THAT MAY BE

MORE STREAMLINED. >> WELL WE DO HAVE IF A BUILDING HAS MOLD ON IT WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ACT ON THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS ON THAT, CORRECT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. MAINTENANCE ASSOCIATED.

>> ONCE THEY ARE THERE, THEN WE HAVE INPUT BUT JUST THE NEW

CONSTRUCTION WE DON'T. >> YEAH.

THAT'S VERY TRUE WITH REGARD TO MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT HAVE BEEN HANDED OVER TO US FOR ENFORCEMENT THERE, THERE'S A PROCESS WHEREBY WITH THE DEVELOPER CREATES A NEW DEVELOPMENT, LET'S PUT USED LANDING FOR AN EXAMPLE ONCE THAT IS STABILIZED THEN IT GETS HANDED OVER TO THE DSC AND TOWNSHIP TO BE ENFORCED. UP UNTIL THAT'S DOWN IT'S HOWARD HUGHES. SO THERE IS A TRANSITION POINT BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, DIRECTOR BAILEY, EXISTING BUILDINGS WITH MAINTENANCE ISSUES AND WITH MOLD AND GENERAL UPKEEP, YEAH WE HAVE

THE RIGHT TO PURSUE THOSE. >> I THINK WITHIN THE BUDGET INITIATIVE THAT YOU HEAR TOMORROW WE CAN ADDRESS THE TECHNOLOGY SIDE OF IT THAT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS PROBABLY BEST DONE OUTSIDE OF THIS PROCESS AND WOULD INVOLVE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> YEAH. AND LET ME MENTION ONE MORE THING BECAUSE WE MENTIONED THIS YESTERDAY, THERE IS A PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE COMP ROW REDORCH COMPREHENSIVE COMMUNITY SERVICES APPOINTMENT WHICH IS WHERE THEY SIT AND ONCE AGAIN PRIMED FOR DISCUSSION WITH HOWARD HUGHES HOW APPOINTMENTS WORK AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THOSE COMMITTEES HOW DO WE HAVE INPUT BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK THE BOARD KNOWS IT'S PROBABLY GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO REMEMBER THIS, WE APPOINT FOUR PEOPLE, WE APPOINT TWO OVER YEAR AND THREE OF THE MEMBERS OF THE DSC ARE HOWARD HUGHES APPOINTED PEOPLE AND TWO OF THOSE ARE CURRENTLY WITH KEN ANDERSON ARCHITECTS AND ONE IS A HURED HUGHES EMPLOYEE CURRENTLY BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO DISCUSS HOW THE STRUCTURE OF THAT COMMITTEE. SO I AGREE WITH THAT.

>> I THINK WE SHOULD LOOK AT HOW WE CAN BETTER IT.

I THINK WE'RE SPEAKING THE SAME LANGUAGE WHEN IT COMES TO WANTING EVERYTHING TO BE -- ESPECIALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

THINGS DRASTIC ALLY CHANGE I THINK IT'S OLD AND AN TICKATED AND CUMBERSOME AND WE NEED TO LOOK AT PERMITTING PROCESSES AND

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TOMORROW. >> SURE.

GREAT. HERE IS WHAT WE CALL OTHER COMMUNITY SERVICES SO STRAIGHT LIGHTING AND SOLID WASTE BUDGET, STREET LIGHTING WE SPEND SHY OF 1.3 MILLION DOLLAR AND WE'RE NOT PROJECTING AN INCREASE IN 2027 IN SLOLID WASTE BUDGET AND THAT IS OUR LARGEST CONTRACT AT 10 MILLION DOLLARS FOR 2027 AND WE HAVE BUDGETED A 5% INCREASE, THAT IS THE MAXIMUM INCREASE ALLOWED BY THE CONTRACTS SO THAT'S WHAT WE BUDGET BUT IT'S TIED TO CPI AND SOME OTHER FACTORS. AND SO THAT RENEWS IN FEBRUARY SO AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WE'LL BE BRINGING THAT BACK.

HERE'S OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT BUDGET.

IT IS 1. -- JUST SHY OF 1.7 MILLION DOLLARS.

22,000 OR A 1.4% INCREASE JUST GO TO THIS PAGE RIGHT HERE SO YOU CAN SEE THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS THAT ARE LISTED IN THIS DEPARTMENT. WE ARE LOOKING AT DECREASING CONTRACTED SERVICES BASED ON OUR ACTUAL USAGE AND HISTORY WITH THAT THE INCREASES THAT YOU SEE IN ADVERTISING ARE FOR OUR TOWNSHIP TALK PUBLICATION IN COMMUNITY IMPACT MAGAZINE.

THE MAGAZINE IS ALSO PUBLISHED BY COMMUNITY IMPACT AND THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY WILL BE IMPLEMENTING A 10% INCREASE.

SO THAT IS WHY YOU SEE THE INCREASES IN THOSE LINE ITEMS.

ANY QUESTIONS HERE? >> ARE WE GOING DOWN ON VIDEO

PRODUCTION. >> WE ARE.

DO YOU WANT -- ON CONTRACTED VIDEO PRODUCTION.

>> UNCONTRACTED. >> NOT ON TOTAL.

NO WITH STEVEN. -- NOT WITH STEVEN.

>> SO YES, THAT'S ON CONTRACTED ONLY SO WE CURRENTLY HAVE A FULL TIME VIDEO PRODUCER AND WE ALSO HAVE A DIGITAL MEDIA LEAD AND BETWEEN THE TWO OF THEM WE'VE ACTUALLY PRODUCED MORE VIDEOS THAN WE EVER HAVE. WE'RE ALMOST I THINK WE'VE PRODUCED 66 VIDEOS THAT'S WHY WE'RE NOT UTILIZING THAT VIDEO

CONTRACTED SERVICE LINE ITEM. >> CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT THE

PUBLIC OPINION SURVEY? >> SO THAT WAS THE RESIDENT SURVEY. WE DO THAT EVERY TWO YEARS SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE THAT LINE ITEM WENT DOWN BECAUSE WE DON'T

BE DOING THE SURVEY IN 2027. >> I UNDERSTAND.

BUT WHY ISN'T IT ZERO? >> BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEND ADDITIONAL SURVEYS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

THE RFP THAT WE SUBMITTED LAST YEAR ALLOWS US TO USE THE TECHNOLOGY TO SEND ADDITIONAL SURVEYS AND THAT WOULD BE IF WE NEED TO SEND POST CARDS OR BUY A TEXT MESSAGE LIST OR THAT TYPE

OF THING >> SO IF WE WANTED TO ASK THE PUBLIC ABOUT THEIR OPINION ON FLOCK CAMERAS, NOT AN ELECTION ITEM OR ANYTHING, ANYTHING WE COULD USE THAT.

>> WE HAVE THAT ABILITY, YES >> WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW,

THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> A LOOK AT OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPA DEPARTMENT, GOING TO GET THROUGH HERE SO WE HAVE -- WE HAVE TWO SECTIONS WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION FUND BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT WHICH IS SALARIES AND BENEFITS WITHIN

THE GENERAL FUND. >> I THOUGHT WE HAD ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT NEXT. >> OKAY.

GET TO THERE. >> I'M SORRY, IN MY SHEET THAT

IS. >> YEAH, IT IS.

>> THIS -- WE JUST DISCOVERED WE'RE USING A DIFFERENT POWERPOINT THAN I DID THE FIRST DAY BY ACCIDENT SO THINGS ARE SLIGHTLY OUT OF ORDER AS I GO THROUGH IT.

BUT YES WE'LL GO TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE.

SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HAS A TOTAL BUDGET OF 259,000 DOLLARS.

AND HERE THE INCREASES ARE FOR THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP WHO HAS INFORMED ME THAT THEY ARE GOING TO IMPLEMENT WITH BOARD APPROVAL SO IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET BUT THEY DO PLAN TO BRING THIS FORWARD TO THEIR BOARD MEETING IN AUGUST TO HAVE A 10% INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIP FEE WHICH WOULD INCREASE THE TOWNSHIP'S FEE FROM 295 TO I BELIEVE 214, OR SOMETHING LIKE

THAT. >> IS THAT AN OVER ALL INCREASE

FOR ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE EDP. >> YES, SO THANK YOU.

SO THIS IS NOT JUST IMPLEMENTED ON THE TOWNSHIP THIS IS AN OVER

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>> I THINK IN THE PACKET IT SAID 20% BUT IN REALITY IT'S 10% OVER

ALL, IS THAT RIGHT? >> SO YES, SO HERE I'VE CONSOLIDATED TWO LINE ITEMS SO THE EDP IN YOUR BUDGET HAS THE EDP AND THEN GREATER USE IN PARTNERSHIP IN TWO SEPARATE LINE ITEMS NOW THEY HAVE COMBINED THEM INTO ONE WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO TOGETHER IT'S A 10% INCREASE.

ONE WENT DOWN 100%. >> SO ALL AND ALL IT'S --

>> ARE YOU SAYING WE'RE PAYING THE EDP AND THEY PAY THE GREATER

HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP. >> THEY ARE NOT DOING IT RIGHT NOW IT'S JUST 195 TO THE EDP AND THEY DO PARTICIPATE WITH THE

GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP. >> I'M BIG INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. I THINK WE SHOULD PUT MORE MONEY INTO THIS, NOT LESS. HOWEVER JUST AS WE WERE TALKING TO ANGELA ABOUT THE 3% ACROSS THE BOARD RAISES YOU GIVE EVERYONE. SOME PERFORM BETTER THAN OTHERS AND SOME DON'T PERFORM AS WELL BUT JUST WRITING A 214,000 DOLLAR CHECK TO THE EDP WITH NO MEASURE OF METRICS AND PERFORMANCE I THINK IT'S IRRESPONSIBLE.

WE'VE JUST DONE THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE GO ABOUT THIS THIS BOARD NEEDS TO HAVE DELIVERABLE RESULTS THAT'S REPORTED ON A QUARTLY BASIS ON WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO SELL THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP AND HOW THEY ARE GOING ABOUT IT AND WHAT SUCCESSES THEY ARE HAVING.

WE CAN'T WAIT FIVE YEARS FOR SOMETHING TO GET DELIVERED TO US. WE GOT TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT AND I THINK ANY TYPE OF ORGANIZATION OUT HERE THAT'S NOT HAVING PERFORMANCE BASED METRIC THAT IS ARE UNDERSTOOD IN THAT ALL PEOPLE BUY IN AND THE ENTIRE BOARD BUYS IN AND THE EDP HAS TO DELIVER THOSE ON A QUARTLY BASIS, YOU RELEASE MORE MONEY. IT'S PERFORMANCE.

WE GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE SELLING THEWOODLANDS AND I THINK HAVING A CARROT OUT IN FRONT OF SOMEONE MAKES PEOPLE SELL THE WOODLANDS.

>> YEAH, I AGREE WITH THE INCENTIVE ARGUMENT AND HAVING BENCHMARKS AND DELIVERABLES. THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE MORE SO DISCUSSION FOR RENEWAL OF THE CONTRACT; RIGHT? TODAY AND THIS WEEK WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW MUCH WE WOULD A

LOT IN THE BUDGET FOR EDP. >> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> OKAY. SO I'M WITH I IA, WE NEED TO PU MONEY INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BUT I'M OKAY WITH ALLOTTING THIS AMOUNT TO EDP BUT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO CONTRACT RENEWAL AND WHAT NOT PERHAPS THAT'S WHERE WE PUT IN THOSE BENCHMARKS AND

DELIVERABLES. >> AND WHEN DOES THAT HAPPEN,

CAN YOU GIVE US A TIMELINE? >> IN NOVEMBER.

SO OCTOBER, ACTUALLY IT CAN HAPPEN IN OCTOBER.

WE RENEW A LOT OF THE CONTRACTS IN OCTOBER.

THE REST OF THEM IN NOVEMBER. >> I THINK YOU SAID AUGUST.

>> I'M GOING THROUGH MY MIND, IT WILL BE IN OCTOBER.

>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE THEM TO COME IN AUGUST AND PRESENT TO US INSTEAD OF NOVEMBER. THAT'S A LITTLE LATE IN THE GAME. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO GET AND HOW IT'S GOING TO WORK I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO COME AND REACH OUT TO THE AUGUST BOARD MEETING.

>> THOSE AGENDAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN DONE SO IT WILL HAVE TO BE

SEPTEMBER. >> WELL, THE AUGUST WE'RE HAVING

A SPECIAL BOARD MEETING. >> SORRY, NOT AWTUGUST, SEPTEMB.

MY MONTHS ARE ACROSS CROSSED UP.

>> MONIQUE IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IT SEEMS DIFFERENT.

>> THIS IS GOING TO GET CONFUSING.

I NEED TO GET THE OTHERS, THE REAL SLIDE PRESENTATION THAT Y'ALL ARE FOLLOWING UP ON HERE IF YOU WANT TO WHILE I'M DOING THAT I WAS GOING TO HAVE NICK WALLEDA IS GOING TO PRESENT SOME INITIATIVE THAT IS ARE BEING PRESENTED THAT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED BY VISIT THE WOODLANDS.

SO IF WE CAN MOVE TO THAT THEN I'LL GET THE OTHER, THE CORRECT

POWERPOINT. >> ARE WE DONE WITH ECONOMIC

DEVELOPMENT. >> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THIS SHEET WE HAVE DOES NOT LINE UP WITH THIS.

IT LOOKS DIFFERENT. >> ON THE SHEET WE HAVE IS THE

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>> WELL IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE SEEING THE TOTAL ON HERE IF WE WENT NOT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ANYMORE, THE PREVIOUS SLIDE.

IT SAYS 259 AND MAYBE ANY EYES ARE BAD ON MY SHEET IT'S 259-6.

>> I NEED TO GET THE CORRECT PRO

POWERPOINT UP HERE. >> THEY ADDED THE ANOTHER TEN.

>> THEY ARE NOT MATCHING BECAUSE I'M SHOWING YOU THE WRONG

POWERPOINT. >> BUT THE ONES WE HAVE HARD

COPIES ARE CORRECT. >> THE HARD COPIES ARE CORRECT.

I'M OPERATING OFF OF MY HARD COPY.

>> IT'S TO MY POWERPOINT I HAVE THE WRONG ONE PULLED UP AND IT'S MY BAD, I'M SORRY. SO IF Y'ALL ARE OKAY WITH NICK PRESENTING THEN I WILL GET THE NEW -- THE CORRECT ONE PULLED UP AND WHATEVER TIME WE HAVE REMAINING WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT.

>> AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. YES.

>> I KNOW NICK WILL BE QUICK ANYWAY.

>> NO, NO, NICK, TAKE YOUR TIME. THIS IS IMPORTANT.

THIS IS THE GOOD STUFF. >> YES.

>> GOOD MORNING. >> GOOD MORNING.

WHAT'S ON YOUR SCREEN, OKAY. I THINK WE HAVE A SEPARATE; RIGHT? YEAH THAT WOULD BE GREAT. THANK YOU, RENAE.

OKAY SO THE BASE VISIT TO WOULD YOU TELL WOODLAND'S BUDGET, LET ME BACK UP SO VISIT THE WOODLANDS BUDGET HAS ALREADY GONE THROUGH THE VETTING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF VISIT THE WOODLANDS. WE DID THAT IN THE MONTH OF JULY. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR BOOK HERE IS A BASE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AN INCREASE OF ABOUT 1.6% OVER ALL WHICH INCLUDES EVERYTHING WITHIN THAT PARTICULAR BUDGET. WE DID REALLOCATE SOME AREAS WITHIN THAT BUDGET TO MORE ALIGN TO WHAT OURSELVES APPROACH IS GOING FORWARD BUT AGAIN JUST THE OVER ALL ASK BY THE STAFF WAS 1.6%. NOW WHAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE AS A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF REQUEST AND THAT DID COME FROM THE BOARD ABOUT SOME STRATEGIC INITIATIVES AND I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THOSE WE HAD ACTUALLY TWO JULY PUBLIC MEETING TO DISCUSS WHAT WE'RE GETTING READY TO TALK ABOUT RIGHT HERE. SO OUR MAIN UNIT OF MEASUREMENT WE HAVE SEVERAL UNITS OF MEASUREMENT FROM SOCIAL MEDIA HITS, WEBSITE VIEWS, LEADS WORK, MEETINGS BOOKED, A VARIETY OF SOURCES BUT REALLY OUR BOTTOM LINE IS HOTEL SALES TAX COLLECTION. IN 2024 IT WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE TOPPED 10 MILLION DOLLARS UNDER THE LEADERSHIP OF CHA CHAIRMAN BAILEY AND WE CONTINUED THAT ON IN 2025 AS WELL. WE ARE HOPEFULLY GOING TO HIT THAT MARK THIS YEAR. YOU KNOW THE CHALLENGES OF HAVING ONE HOTEL PROPERTY DOWN THAT'S A BIG HOTEL TAX PROVIDER FOR US. WE DO HAVE ANOTHER HOTEL RIGHT NOW THAT'S UNDER SOME RENOVATION THAT IS GOING TO -- HAS TAKEN SOME INVENTORY OFF AT A KEY POINT IN TIME BUT WE ARE STILL TRENDING STRONG AND WE'RE HOPING TO HIT THAT 10 MILLION ONCE

AGAIN. >> NICK WHICH IS THAT FIRST

HOTEL GOING BACK ONLINE. >> WE HOPE ANY DAY BUT IT'S

STILL DELAYED. >> SO NO REAL UPDATES ON THAT.

>> RIGHT. NO REAL UPDATES ON THAT.

THAT IS OUR MAIN UNIT OF MEASUREMENT WHAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT BUT WE'RE DOING ACTIVE RESEARCH ON AND IT PARLAYS INTO A QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED ON 4TH OF JULY ON SPENDING HERE IS OUR RE RETAIL SALES SPENDING WE WENT THROUGH THAT EARLIER. WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AN IMPACT, A STRONG IMPACT ON THAT RETAIL SALES AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE HIGHER IMPACT ON THE MIXED USE BEVERAGE TAX SO MAYBE SOME BIN CAMPAIGNS TO COME UP BUT WE DO KNOW THAT WE DO BRING PEOPLE HERE TO SPEND MONEY BUT DON'T NECESSARILY SHOP HERE; RIGHT? WE WOULDN'T HAVE MARKET SHEET.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE WOODLAND'S MALL WITH 120,000 PEOPLE.

IT'S A REGIONAL APPROACH OF WHAT WE HAVE HERE AND WE KNOW PEOPLE COME HERE AND SPEND MONEY SO THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE TO COME ON THIS OF WHAT THAT IMPACT IS ON OUR RETAIL SALES, SPENDING HERE BY OUR VISITORS. BUT WHAT I WANT TO DO IS JUST BRIEFLY UPDATE THE BOARD UNDER CO CHAIRMAN BAILEY AT THE TIME WE HAD A COMPREHENSIVE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WE TALKED ABOUT ALL KINDS OF IDEAS AND YOU

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AND WE SAID WHERE ARE WE IN HOTEL INVENTORY AND THE TYPE OF FLAG THAT IS ARE FLYING WITH OUR HOTELS AND DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT INVENTORY MIX AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT IS WE'RE LOSING OUT A LOT OF BUSINESS HERE BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE THE HOTEL SUPPLY.

WE HAVE 22,250 ROOMS A NIGHT AN SOME NIGHTS WE'RE RUNNING AT 90% AND THERE'S OTHER TIMES OF THE YEAR WHERE WE HAVE SOME NEEDS AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN HELP WHAT WE CAN HELP BUT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT AND WE HAVE GENERATED A LOT OF ATTENTION ON THAT AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THE DIRECTORS IF ANY OF YOU WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR AREA RIGHT NOW OR WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT AT A LATER TIME.

>> LET'S KEEP GOING. >> OKAY.

KEEP GOING. >> I WAS GOING TO SAY I THINK HOTELS IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST PRIORITIES OF THIS BOARD.

IT'S SUCH A MASSIVE REVENUE GENERATOR AND IT'S BEEN -- I KNOW I'M NEW TO THE BOARD BUT HOW LONG IS IT GOING TO TAKE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS AND IT -- I MEAN YOU GUYS HAD A STUDY DONE BEFORE THAT SHOWED THAT WE NEEDED.

>> IN CONVENTION SPACE IN 2020 THIS WAS A HOTEL STUDY WE DID

THIS YEAR. >> I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE A VERY

HIGH PRIORITY. >> AS YOU KNOW WE HAD AN AGREEMENT WITH THE MALL TO OVER A PERIOD OF PHASES TO PUT IN TWO NEW HOTELS. THEY MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN THE LUXURY HOTELS THAT I THOUGHT WE NEEDED -- WE NEEDED A LUXURY HOTEL BUT IT WAS SOMETHING AND BY NOW WE WOULD HAVE THEM IN PLACE. THAT'S OKAY.

WE JUST NEED TO START SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED TO OWN THOSE HOTELS. THAT'S A DIFFERENT BUT WE DO NEED TO SUPPORT THE RIGHT DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DO THE PROJECT AND THAT'S WHERE VISIT THE WOODLANDS CAN HELP AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CAN HELP. LET'S JUST KEEP WORKING ON IT.

>> THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT AND IT MADE US SLOW DOWN A LITTLE BIT LOOKING AT THE MALL GOING TO BE A BOUTIQUE HOTEL AND ANOTHER HOTEL AND THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THIS BOARD HAS NOT BEEN DRAGGING ITS FEET OR DOING ANYTHING, WE HAD A MASSIVE PROJECT PRESENTED TO US ON MY FIRST DAY COMING INTO THIS POSITION, LINDA AND I AND RICHARD AND NOTHING HAS COME TO FRUITION ON THAT AND THE SMALL HAS NOT MOVED AND THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING ON THAT AND THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE IS STILL THERE BUT NOTHING HAS COME BECAUSE OF THAT WE CHAMPIONED A HOTEL STUDY THIS YEAR AND WE SENT IT OUT TO HOTELIERS TO RECRUIT AND RETRACT.

I DO THINK WE'RE MOVING ON THIS BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE THE DATA BNT IT TO SHOW HOTELIERS WHAT'S HERE.

>> WE HAVE THE DATA AND WE HAVE MORE DATA AND IT STILL POINTS TO THE SAME THING BUT TO JUST KIND OF SMOOTH OUT THAT END WE STILL WELCOME BROKE FIELD AND WE STILL STILL WELCOME THE MALL TO BRING US ANY KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES AND PARTNERSHIPS WITH PARKING YOU KNOW THEY ARE SUPER WELCOME AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, THE ECONOMY HAD CHANGED OBVIOUSLY INTEREST RATES SKYROCKETED AND WE GOT TO RECOGNIZE THAT SO A LOT OF PROJECTS WERE SLOWED IF

NOT TABLED. >> WE WELCOME THEM SO MUCH THAT WE STILL HAVE THE INCENTIVE PACKAGE OUT THERE WAITING FOR

THEM TO DO. >> SO COME ON BACK.

>> WE'LL LEAVE THE LIGHT ON FOR YEAH.

PARDON THE PUN. >> WELL, IT'S SUCH A CHESS GAME WE'RE PLAYING WITH LOCATION WITH WHICH HOTELS SO I THINK EVERYTHING IS STARTING TO COME TOGETHER WE JUST HAVE TO --

>> WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

>> EXACTLY. IT'S VERY WELL NOKNOWN -- SO WH CAN WE DO TODAY AND WHAT CAN WE DO -- SO LATER THIS YEAR ALSO INTO 2027, 2028. AT STAFF WE REALLY HAVE ANALYZED

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OUR NEAT PERIOD OF TIME IS MONTHS OF DECEMBER IS OCCUPANCY IS LESS THAN 60% AND ALSO JANUARY AND FEBRUARY GOES UP AND DIPS IN AUGUST WE'RE GOING TO SEE A DIFFERENT STORY BECAUSE THE PA VILLIAN HAS BEEN DRIVING HARD AND THE WEEKENDS SOLD OUT.

HARD AND THE WEEKENDS SOLD OUT. I THINK WE'RE OFF TO A GREAT START SO HOW DO WE CONTINUE TO ELEVATE THAT SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT, CHRIS AND I HAVE GOTTEN TOGETHER AND BRAINSTORMED ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND THESE HAVE BEEN IN CHRIS'S MIND FOR MANY YEARS AND I THINK I WANT TO GO ON AND START MOVING ONTO THIS AND I CAN SKIP PAST THIS.

SO THIS IS COMPREHENSIVE LIST, I SAY COMPREHENSIVE BUT IT'S A BIG LIST OF SOME IDEAS THAT VISIT THE WOODLANDS DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING AND HAVE GIVEN TO US TO SAY HEY COME BACK TO US WITH MORE OF THESE AND I THINK A PICTURE IS WORTH 1,000 WORDS INSTEAD OF READING THIS LIST JUST GO THROUGH SOME OF THIS AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT THIS YEAR WE UTALLIZE FUND BALANCE AND IMPLEMENT FIRE WORKS ON WEEKENDS IN DECEMBER SO TAKE THAT HOLIDAY ON THE WATERWAY AND COMBINE IT WITH FIRE WORKS AND OTHER OFFERS AND LET'S MAKE DESTINATIONS IN THE WEEKENDS OVER THE HOLIDAYS SO LET'S STIMULATE THAT HOTEL TAX IN THE MONTH OF DECEMBER AND GET OCCUPANCY FROM 58% TO SAY 70%.

NOW I'LL GO SOME OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME FROM -- IDEA THAT'S CHRIS AND I TALK BUT ALSO TO OUR DIRECTORS, OUR DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN VERY INSTRUMENTAL IN SAYING HEY HOW ABOUT THIS, HOWBILITY THAT SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE AND IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR QUESTIONS ON IT WE CAN CIRCLE BACK ON IT.

SO ANNUAL HOLIDAY BOAT PARADE, MA MARDI GRAS PARADE, COMMUNITY DINING TABLE THAT COULD POTENTIALLY LOOK LIKE THIS ON THE WATERWAY I THINK IS THE NEXT SLIDE. CHAIRMAN BAILEY I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN IN YOUR BAILEY WEEK FOR YEARS AND STILL LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN DO THIS AND REALLY BRING THAT TO LIFE.

AND BAVARIAN CRYSTAL KENDALL MARKET THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CHRIS HAS WANTED TO DO FOR YEARS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW THIS COULD BE DONE. A LIGHTED LANTERN DISPLAY AND FIRE PODS ON THE WATERWAY PARTICULARLY IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY AND FEBRUARY. PREMIER WATERWAY CAR SHOW EVENT AND CHAIRMAN BAILEY I KNOW SOMETHING THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT AND DISCUSSED AND CATERED SUNDAY EVENING BOAT CRUISES, CHAIRMAN NELSON I KNOW BOATS ON THE WATERWAY SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAVE BROUGHT TO US AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. SO I'LL STOP IT RIGHT THERE AND JUST SAY THOSE ARE CONCEPTS WE HAVE PLACED INTO THE 2027 BUDGET FOR VISIT THE WOODLANDS AND ADDITIONAL 150,000 DOLLARS AS DIRECTED BY THE TOWNSHIP OR VISIT THE WOODLANDS DIRECTORS PLUS AN EXTRA 55,000 SO COMBINED ABOUT JUST A LITTLE OVER 200,000 WHICH INCREASES VISIT THE WOODLANDS BUDGET ASK AND REQUEST FOR 2027. TO GET STARTED IN SOME OF THESE

IDEAS. >> THOSE ARE SOME GREAT IDEAS AND YOU'VE SHARED SOME OF THOSE WITH US BEFORE AND THESE ARE AWESOME. I WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT I THINK THAT AN AUCTION, AN AUCTION ON THE CARS, THE LUXURY CARS WOULD BE A GREAT ADD AND IT WOULD BRING IN SOME VERY -- POTENTIALLY HIGH DOLLAR BIDDER IS THAT WOULD COME.

>> AND TAXES THAT WOULD COME. >> FERRARI BID UP A 40 MILLION DOLLAR LUCA WHICH I BELIEVE IS SUPER FOR THE RECORD IN MONTEREY CAR WEEK. IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD UP TO

SOMETHING OF THE MAGNITUDE. >> BUT WE COULD HAVE ONE OF THE BEST IN TEXAS I THINK PRETTY QUICKLY, ABSOLUTELY.

IT WOULD BE A WHOLE FAMILY EVENT IT'S NOT JUST THE CAR SHOW BUT YOU WOULD HAVE ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES AVAILABLE TO THE REST OF THE FAMILY. YEAH.

>> I THINK THAT ONE IS DOABLE AS A THIRD PARTY FOR SURE AND I

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SO WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR ARATERS OUT AND PUT THEM TOWARDS THE BOATS. ERATORS SO WE COULD TAKE SOME OF THE FUNDING FOR AERATORS OUT AND PUT THEM TOWARDS THE BOATS.

>> I BROUGHT UP THE IDEA AND I'M FROM SAN ANTONIO AND USING THE WATERWAY MORE TO GATHER GROUPS DURING EVENTS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SO THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA FOR THE ACTUAL HOLIDAY BOAT PARADE WOULD COME TO WHERE LOCAL BUSINESSES OR CHARITIES COULD ENTER DECORATE A BOAT AND IT COULD BE PART OF OUR WEEKEND S CELEBRATION LIGHTING OF THE DOVES OR ANOTHER WEEKEND AND THEN WHEN WE ASK THE HOTELIERS ABOUT IT THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF THE IDEA SO THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. I THINK IT COULD BE A LOT OF

FUN. >> PEOPLE WOULD LOVE THE MARDI GRAS TOO. LOTS OF FOLKS LIKE MARDI GRAS.

>> YEAH, WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T TALK MUCH ABOUT MARDI GRAS, THAT'S A THOUGHT TO. BOTTOM LINE THEY DIDN'T DELVE INTO COST AND SHOULD WE GET SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO RUN AWAY WITH, WE DO HAVE EXTRA DOLLARS WE CAN SEE IF THE BOARD WILL ALLOCATE FOR THAT AS WELL.

BUT ALL THOSE THINGS IN HEADS IN BEDS THAT WE WERE CONSIDERING.

>> I THINK THAT'S THE FOLKS IS LET'S JUST GET HEADS IN BEDS AND EVEN TO THE CAR SHOW THING IS THAT BEING A MULTIDAY EVENT POTE POTENTIALLY PEOPLE COME AND PEOPLE WILL TRUCK THEIR CARS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY TO EVENTS LIKE THAT AND THAT'S GOING TO BE HEADS IN WE DO --

HEADS IN BEDS, 100%. >> THE ONLY COMMENT I SHOULD MAKE IS VISIT THE WOODLANDS SWAG STAFF SHIRT AND SECONDLY ON THURSDAY YOU WILL HAVE A SEPARATE AGENDA ITEM TO PROCEED WITH THE FIRE WORKS FOR THIS HOLIDAY SEASON.

>> CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS. WHERE WOULD IT HARD.

>> THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND -- FIRST SECOND AND THIRD WEEKENDS

IN DECEMBER. >> SO TO BE SURE THEY WOULD BE OVER BY CERTAIN TIMES SO THAT PEOPLE CAN GO TO SLEEP WHO LIVE

AROUND THERE. >> YES.

>> WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE. >> THESE ARE STANDARD 8:00, 9.

>> WHAT TIME SHOULD IT BE DR. SHELLY.

>> PEOPLE MOVE TO THE TOWN CENTER KNOWING IT'S DYNAMIC AND THERE'S LOTS HAPPENING THERE. I THINK TOWN CENTER WAS THERE.

>> IF YOU NEED TO GO TO BED BEFORE 10 YOU MIGHT NEED TO GO

TO ANOTHER VILLAGE. >> IT NICK WE TALKED ABOUT THIS

FITNESS THING IN JANUARY. >> GREAT POINT, DIRECTOR LAMB WHAT HE HAS REFERRED TO ONE OF THE WHY DOS THAT CAME UP WITHIN STRATEGYING PLANNING HOW WE POSITION WOODLANDS AS A HEALTHY COMMUNITY FROM A STANDPOINT OF VISITATION AND HOW WE CAN DO WEEKENDS IN JANUARY THAT ARE HEALTH AND MEDICAL FOCUSED.

>> WHERE THEY ARE MARKETED TO A WELLNESS WEEKEND ESSENTIALLY COME HERE ON FRIDAY AND SOMETHING GOING ON SATURDAY AND WHATEVER IT IS AND PEOPLE ARE COMING AND STAYING LIKE A COUPLE'S STAYCATION WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND STAYING AND PUTTING HEADS IN BEDS AND ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN AND HAVING EACH POTENTIAL WEEKEND BE A DIFFERENT THEME I THINK THAT

WOULD BE PHENOMENAL >> I THINK WHAT I LIKED WHAT VISIT THE WOODLANDS DID AND I'M JUST GOING TO USE A PERSONAL EXAMPLE I WENT TO PORTUGAL FOR A YOGA RETREAT.

IT WAS AT THE HOTEL BUT THE HOTEL DIDN'T PLAN IT.

THEY TOLD WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS WE ARE AND WE HAVE THE TREE

SCAPES AND WE HAVE THE. >> BOAT HOUSE SO.

>> SO WE OFFER ALL THOSE SIDE THINGS ALONG THE WAY BUT WE DON'T PLAN THAT EVENT AND WE GIVE THEM THE OPTION.

>> TO HELP FACILITATE AND GET THE HOTEL PRORMENTS PROPERTIES AND COMBINE WITH ALL THE GREAT THINGS.

>> THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR THAT TO COME.

>> SOON A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. >> AND WE BROUGHT THAT UP AND

THEN GO PLAY GOLF. >> KUDOS TO VISITEDW WOODLANDS THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX AND BEING CREATIVE.

SO WE'LL HAVE THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE FIREWORKS COMING UP, I SEE NEXT STEPS ON NUMBER OF THESE SUPPORTING RFP, IS THAT

COMING UP. >> YES.

SO IT WOULD NEED TO COME UP WITH BOTH BOARD OF DIRECTORS THROUGH VISIT THE WOODLANDS BOARD AND ALSO TO THE TOWNSHIP BOARD.

>> THE TOWNSHIP HAS TO APPROVE ALL OF THAT.

>> I THINK THE CRYSTAL MARKET, I MEAN I UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL

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>> BUT THE IDEA IS THAT -- THE IDEA IS GREAT.

>> IT'S A WORLD FAMOUS EVENT. >> YEAH I KNOW BUT IT'S LIKE I

DON'T KNOW. >> SO SOME PEOPLE MIGHT KNOW

WHAT IT IS. >> WE'LL HAVE CHRIS SAME THE

NAME OF IT THREE TIMES FAST. >> AFTER CHRIS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. CHURCH HILL CHRISTMAS.

>> THANK YOU, NICK. >> GOOD JOB.

>> CHURCHILL, IS THAT THE NEW ONE IS THAT UP?

>> 141. >> OKAY.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> SO BACK ON THIS AND THIS ADDR ADDRESSES DIRECTOR HEISER, 22% INCREASE ON THE EDP BUT BEING OFFSET BY THE $20,000 SO IN TOTAL WHEN YOU COMBINE THE TWO LINE ITEMS.

>> THOSE ARE SEPARATE ENTITIES. >> THEY ARE.

WE DON'T DO THE GHP ANYMORE IT'S THROUGH THE EDP.

>> GOING BACK TO WHAT YOU ORIGINALLY SAID EDP REQUESTED A

10% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD. >> RIGHT.

>> BUT THEN OURS LOOK LIKE 20 AND THAT.

>> IT DOES BECAUSE I COMBINE. THAT'S MY BAD.

I SHOULD HAVE SEPARATED THEM OUT BUT I COMBINED THE TWO ITEMS BECAUSE I WANTED TO REFLECT IT'S A 10% INCREASE.

IT'S NOT A 20% INCREASE. >> THE TOTAL PAYMENT IS 195

TIMES 1.1 IT'S 214-5. >> EXACTLY.

>> WHAT'S THE OTHER 10,000? >> SO AND THEN I THINK IN Y'ALL'S PACKAGE IT SAYS 295-5 WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE IS THE REAL BUDGET. IT'S 259-5.

IF YOU ADD THOSE UP THAT'S WHAT IT IS.

>> SO WE'RE STILL NO WE'RE NOT PA PAYING -- OKAY. SORRY.

>> SO NOW THERE'S THREE LINE ITEMS IN HERE, THE EDP AT 214-5 WHICH IS 10% INCREASE FROM THE COMBINED 195 AND LEADERSHIP AND GOVER GOVERNMENTAL REPRESENTATION AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS ARE THE DIFFERENT EVENTS ATTENDED BY PRIMARILY THE BOARD MEMBERS SOME SENIOR STAFF IN ORDER TO BUILD THE RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR STRATEGYING PARTNERS.

>> SO THOSE ALL EDP SPONSORED EVENTS.

>> NO. THOSE ARE A VARIETY OF ALL THE DIFFERENT EVENTS AND LUNCHES, TRAINING SESSIONS.

>> LEADERSHIP MONITGOMERY. >> THINGS THAT YOU ATTEND THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE ALL GATHERED RIGHT HERE.

>> I'M SORRY, I BARELY GOT THROUGH -- IN HIGH SCHOOL SO I MAY NEED SOME HELP. SO FOR 2025 WE GAVE 225 TO EDP

IS THAT CORRECT. >> YOU GAVE 195.

YOU GAVE 175 AND 20. >> SO ACTUAL 2025.

>> OH, I'M SORRY. 25.

YES BECAUSE THERE WAS AN ADDITIONAL REQUEST, ONE-TIME REQUEST TO HELP THEM FUND CHANGES TO THEIR WEBSITE.

>> HOW MUCH WAS THAT? >> IT WAS A 50,000 ONE TIME REQUEST. INSTEAD OF 175 IT WAS 225 AND AT THE TIME THEY WERE DOING THE 225 GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP.

>> SO 175, AND 26 AND THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A 10% INCREASE.

>> FOR 2027, CORRECT. >> BUT WE'RE NOT GIVING ANY MONEY TO THE GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP.

>> GRCORRECT. ALL FLOWING THROUGH THE EDP.

>> SO THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP IS NOT LISTED AS A MEMBER OF THE

GHP. >> NO.

WE ARE NOT MEMBERS. >> WERE WE EVER LISTED?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE -- NOT THAT I KNOW.

YEARS AGO. YEAH, YEARS -- YEAH, YEARS AND YEARS AGO BUT NOT FOR THE WHAT, PAST YEAH SO YEARS AND YEARS AGO

LIKE 20 YEARS AGO. >> I'M GOING TO ASK THE CHAIRMAN, WHAT DO YOU THINK, CHAIRMAN IS THERE ANY VALUE DO YOU THINK TO HAVE THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP LISTED AS A MEMBER AND WOULD WE GAIN VALUE IN THE G GREATER HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP.

>> NO. I DO NOT.

I THINK I BELIEVE HOUSTON PARTNERSHIP SERVES A NEED BUT THE OUR EDP COULD BE A MEMBER IF THEY'D LIKE TO DO THAT BUT I

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I THINK WE NEED A MONTGOMERY COUNTY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PARTNERSHIP THAT ALL THE CITIES IN THE ENTIRE COUNTY AND WE START SELLING IT AS ONE, NOT -- BUT YOU CAN'T AS WE ALL KNOW YOU CAN'T HAVE THE WOODLANDS GO IN AND SAY WE'RE GOING TO SELL YOU, THAT DOESN'T WORK. THAT WON'T GO OVER WELL.

SO YOU GOT TO HAVE INDEPENDENT AND SET SOMETHING UP BUT I'M TELLING YOU AS I SAID EARLIER IN THIS PRESENTATION, IT'S NOT JUST RECRUITING NEW BUSINESSES IT'S RETAINING CURRENT BUSINESSES AND WE HAVE GOT TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A TOTAL, TOTAL DIFFERENT WAY. AND --

>> CAN I ASK YOU WHY ARE WE FUNDING LEADERSHIP MONTGOMERY COUNTY WHICH IS MORE -- WHAT IS THAT, TO TRAIN BOARD MEMBERS OR STAFF TO KNOW WHO THE UP AND COMING PEOPLE ARE IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. I'M CURIOUS HOW THAT ENDED UP IN

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. >> WELL IT'S VERY MUCH A COUNTY-WIDE PROGRAM AND PEOPLE AND MEMBERS OF THAT.

>> I KNOW WHAT IT IS BUT WHY THAT THE AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE? ARE WE SPONSORING A STAFF MEMBER EVERY YEAR, IS THAT THE

QUESTION. >> I KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH IT BECAUSE I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.

>> I DON'T KNOW. >> AND TODD.

>> YOU'VE BEEN THROUGH IT, CHAIRMAN.

SO IT'S KIND OF SELECTIVE. >> YOU HAVE TO APPLY.

>> I NEVER ASKED TO APPLY. I DON'T THINK I WOULD APPLY.

>> I WASN'T HERE. >> I JUST FIND IT TO BE -- I

KNOW YOU WENT THROUGH IT, TODD. >> DR. SHELLY, IT'S ONLINE.

IT'S OPEN INVITATION TO APPLY. IT'S NOT LIKE PEOPLE ARE GETTING

EAR MARKED TO GO SERVE. >> BUT WHAT MINE BE PAID FOR BY THE TOWNSHIP? I DON'T KNOW THAT I WOULD WANT IT TO BE PAID FOR BY THE TOWNSHIP.

BUT IT -- MY THOUGHT IS IT'S JUST ANOTHER LITTLE KIND OF A LITTLE DING RIGHT THERE LIKE WE'RE PICKING WINNERS AND

LOSERS. >> YEAH, SO THERE ARE TWO DISTINCTIONS HERE, LEADERSHIP MONTGOMERY COUNTY AS AN ORGANIZATION OF A CLASS THAT YOU CAN JOIN FOR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO GET TO KNOW THE COUNTY IS OPEN TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO APPLY. WE HAVE MANY BOARD MEMBERS AND STAFF MEMBERS WHO HAVE DONE IT OVER THE YEARS.

THAT'S SEPARATE. THIS CONTRIBUTION LEADERSHIP MONITGOMERY COUNTY SUPPORT IT O THE PROGRAM BUT THE TOWN GETS SPECIFIC DELIVERABLE FROM THAT CONTRIBUTION WHICH IS THAT WE GET TO PARTICIPATE TO TALK ABOUT THE TOWNSHIP TO INTRODUCE PEOPLE TO THE TOWNSHIP AND WE ACTUALLY GET TO PARTICIPATE IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND WE GET ADVERTISING AND OTHER INCENTIVES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR AND ALL THE MATERIAL THAT IS GO OUT TO THE ALUMNI NETWORK AND CLASSES TO ALL THAT SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF THE TOWNSHIP AND WE GET THE NOTE RITY AND THIS SUPPORTS THE TOWNSHIP TELLS YOU HOW MUCH PEOPLE THEY REACHED AND WHERE THEY PUT MATERIALS AND ALL THAT.

>> HOW MUCH DID YOUR SESSION COST?

>> THE CURRENTLY APPLICATION IS 1 $1,750 THAT WAS LASS BACK IN THE

DAY. >> DOES THE TOWNSHIP PAY FOR

THAT. >> THE TOWNSHIP CAN PAY FOR THAT UNDER TRAINING AND PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IF ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES ELIGIBLE TO BE ABLE TO APPLY AND GET ACCEPTED THEN THE TOWNSHIP CAN PLAY FOR THAT 100% UNDER PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.

>> SO THEY COULD, DO THAT. >> THEY HAVE IN THE PAST

>> SO VISIT THE WOODLANDS, AS AN NLC GRADUATE THE TOWNSHIP PAID FOR THAT, ANGELA BRANCH WERE YOU ONE TOO?

SHOW OF HANDS. >> I'M TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD.

THE BOARD PAY FOR IT. >> I'VE GONE THROUGH IT.

>> DID THE BOARD PAY FOR YOU? >> THE HOSPITAL DID.

>> THEY MAY HAVE PAID FOR MINE. >> I THINK IT'S NICE.

>> LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, YOU HAVE EVERY LEADER IN THE COUNTY AND THEY COME TO THE WOODLAND AND AS LEARN ABOUT THE WOODLANDS FORM OF GOVERNMENT AND THEY LEARN ABOUT OUR TOURISM AND NICK DOES A BIG PRESENTATION ABOUT TOURISM AND THEY LEARN ABOUT THE PA VVPAVILION. WE ARE A HUB IN THE COUNTY THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT AND WE HAVE A MEDICAL CENTER IN THE COUNTY THEY HOST A MASSIVE DEAL AND THEY DO A REPORT, I CAN'T THINK OF A BETTER ORGANIZATION TO PROMOTE THE WOODLANDS IN THAN LEADERSHIP MONITGOMERY COUNTY. NOT ONE.

I ENCOURAGE YOU, APPLY. TRY AND GET INVOLVED.

>> I'M OKAY WITH IT. BUT I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY JUST NOT THE PRIORITY OF THE TAX PAYERS TO DO IT.

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>> I DISAGREE. >> TOTALLY DISAGREE.

>> OKAY. >> IT'S STATED, SHE DOESN'T LIKE IT BUT SHE DOESN'T LIKE A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

>> THE TAX PAYERS. I THINK I'D LIKE TO REPRESENT T THEM.

>> I THINK THEY ARE BENEFITTED. >> GREATLY BENEFITTED.

I MEAN WE'RE SELLING THE WOODLANDS IN A VERY, VERY BIG

WAY. >> AND YOU CAN PAY FOR IT OUT OF

THE POCKET. >> I SELL THE WOODLANDS IN A

VERY BIG WAY TOO. >> OKAY.

MOVING ON, THE OTHER EXPE EXPENDITURES LINE ITEM INCLUDES OUR REGIONAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT PAYMENTS TO THE CITY OF CONROW AND THE CITY OF HOUSTON WHICH IS 1/16TH OF THE 1% BASE TOTAL HOTEL TAX. SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IT'S RELATIVELY SMALL AND ABOUT 107,000 AND THEN THE HOUSTON RPA WE'RE AT ABOUT 250 T,000 NOW. WE ALSO HAVE RIGHT NOW WE FUND THE YMCA, 80,000 DOLLARS THAT IS SORT OF A LEGACY EXPENSE.

IT HELPS WITH SOME OF THEIR YOUTH PROGRAMS, THAT IS THE ONLY NOT FOR PROFIT THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY FUNDING.

>> DOES THE TOWNSHIP GET ANY BENEFITS FOR THAT LIKE STAFF ALLOWED TO GO TO THE GYM THRNCHTS NO, NOTHING LIKE THAT.

IT'S REALLY, LAOITS IT'S A YOUTH PROGRAM THAT HELPS WITH AFTER SCHOOL SO WE HAVE TIED IT INTO OUR PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAMS IN TERMS OF HAVING A PLACE FOR YOUTH THAT MAYBE TO GO TO THE YMCA AND PARTICIPATE IN THEIR PROGRAMS SO THAT IS WHY THE

FUNDING IS THERE. >> DO THOSE YOUTH KNOW THAT THE TOWNSHIP TAX PAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THEM.

>> I HAVE NO IDEA. I'M DOUBTING THAT THE YOUTH KNOW, WHETHER THEIR PARENTS KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW.

I CAN FIND OUT. THE CARLETON WOODS ASSOCIATION, IT PAYS THE FULL ASSESSMENT OR FULL TAX RATE TO THE TOWNSHIP HOWEVER THE TOWNSHIP DOES NOT PROVIDE ALL SERVICES.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN TRASH PICKUP AND PARK MAINTENANCE AND THEY PAY FOR CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO US AND WE REBATE THEM 15% OF THE TAXES THAT THEY PAY AGAIN BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROVIDING THOSE SERVICES TO THEM.

>> DO OTHER PRIVATE COMMUNITIES ALSO GET REBATES.

>> THOSE ARE THE ONLY ONES IN OUR BUDGET.

WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO THE TYPICAL SOLID WASTE AND I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF HOMEOWNER ASSOCIATIONS WITHIN THE TOWNSHIP BUT THIS IS THE ONLY ONE WE SPECIFICALLY DO NOT PROVIDE

SERVICE. >> THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPANY THAT'S MUCH MORE ELEVATED THAN OURS.

>> EXACTLY. THEY DO.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THE TRASH FOR SURE BUT A LOT OF THE PRIVATE COMMUNITIES I'M GUESSING WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN LANDSCAPING SERVICES BUT THE TRASH IS SIGNIFICANT.

>> THEY DO WITH ENHANCE. THEY ENHANCE BASED ON SOME OF THE BASIC SERVICE THAT IS WE PROVIDE.

IN SOME CASES WE DON'T PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

CARLETON WOODS IS THE ONLY ONE WHERE WE REBATE MONEY.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE. >> THEY MIGHT GET REIMBURSED A SMALLER PERCENTAGE THEN IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

THOSE OTHER COMMUNITY THAT IS DON'T RECEIVE COMPLETE SERVICES.

THE LANDSCAPING AND THE -- >> WE HAVE NO YEAAGREEMENT, RIG NOW CARLETON WOODS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT WE PROVIDE A REBATE

TOO. >> OKAY.

THANK YOU. >> THERE IS THE CYNTHIA WOODS PAV PAVILION, WHICH IS 90% OF WHAT WE COLLECT AND THE SOUTH GOSLING GOLF WAS THE 300,000 WE AGREED TO PAY THAT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT WE MADE THAT WAS IN ADVANCE TO PAY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

AND I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THE TRANSFERS OUT BECAUSE THAT GETS INTO A BUNCH OF ACCOUNTING MUMBO JUMJUMBO.

ANY QUESTIONS THERE? OKAY.

WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT VISIT THE WOODLANDS BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH REAL QUICK HERE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE ARE SU SUPPLEMENTAL HOTEL TAX SO IN TOTAL THEY GET A 9% TOTAL TAX AND 7% OF IT IS THE BASE HOTEL TAX WHICH IS TO PAY FOR DEBT SERVICE ON THE BONDS AND THE VISIT THE WOODLANDS GETS 100% OF THE SUPPLEMENT AL 2% TAX WHICH S TOTALLING UNDER 2.4 MILLION DOLLARS IN 2027. THEIR TOTAL BUDGET IS 4 MILLION

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SO WE CAN LOOK IN MORE DETAIL HERE.

HERE'S THEIR GENERAL EXPENSES. CBB DOES NOT HAVE ITS THE VISIT THE WOULD YODLANDS DOES NOT HAVS OWN STAFF TO VISIT THE WOODLANDS CONTRACTS WITH THE STAFF AND THAT'S THE LINE ITEM YOU SEE IN THE BLUE BOX THIS IS WHAT IS REFLECTED ON THE TOWNSHIP'S BOOKS FOR VISIT THE WOODLANDS IN TERMS OF STAFF INCREASING, RELATIVELY SMALL 27,000. HERE'S A LOOK AT THE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS THOSE TWO ITEMS IN THE BLUE WBOX ARE WHAT NICK JUS WENT THROUGH, THE 55,000 FOR FIRE WORKS.

AND I GUESS I'M SORRY I MISSED NICK'S PRESENTATION I ASSUME THIS HAS BEEN FULLY VETTED. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I'LL GO DO THAT AND THEY WILL END UP WITH 800,000 IN FUND BALANCE.

TRANSPORTATION FUND. >> LOOK FORWARD TO THAT, JUST WANT TO ADDRESS THE LEADERSHIP MONITOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY, DO YOU HAVE THE TAX PAYERS WANT TO FUND THAT BUT WE HAVE COMMERCIAL TAX PAYERS THAT BENEFIT FROM LEADERSHIP MONTGOMERY COUNTY.

I JUST WANT TO ADD THERE'S RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL AND

THEY GET A LOT FROM THAT. >> GOOD POINT.

>> IN TOTAL THE TRANSPORTATION FUND SO THIS IS A SEPARATE FUND FROM OUR GENERAL FUND. HAS A BUDGET OF 11.2 MILLION DOLLARS, THAT IS A DECREASE OF 25 MILLION.

FROM THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND THAT IS BECAUSE THE CAPITAL PROJECT FOR THE PASSENGER BUS AND TROLLY WERE UNDER WAY AND THE FUNDS HAVE BEEN COMMITTED IN 2026. WE ALSO HAVE PARK AND RIDE CONTRACTED BUS SERVICE THAT'S INCREASING BY 909,000 THAT IS DUE TO ADDITIONAL ROUTES AND RATE INCREASES WE DO GET 32 OR 40% DEPENDING ON COMPLICATED FORMULAS I WON'T GO THROUGH HERE TO HELP OFFSET THE COST PLUS WE GET FAIR REVENUES TO HELP OFFSET THAT COST. I'M REPORTING THE COST AT 100% EVEN THOUGH IT IS OFFSET BY THE FAIR REVENUES AND THE GRANTS.

SAME FOR TROLLIES FOR OUR STAFF SCPIG MENTIONED EARLIER WE BROUGHT STAFFING INHOUSE SO THAT IS INCREASING BY 70,000, OUR CONTRACTED BEST SERVICE RODEO EXPRESS IS INCREASING BY 23,000.

AND HUGELY POPULAR AND A HUGE SUCCESS FUNDED BY FAIR REVENUE AND WE HAVE ELECTRICAL REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE INCREASES BASED ON HISTORY THAT IS 50% REIMBURSED BY A GRANT AND THEN TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVES IN 2026 THE BOARD BUDGETED 250,000 FOR A MOBILITY HUB ANALYSIS THAT WILL BE COMPLETED IN 2026 AND IT IS UNDER WAY RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE BOARD BUT THAT EXPENSE IS NOT NEED IN THE 2027.

SO THIS IS A LOOK AT HOW OUR PARK AND RIDE COSTS AND OUR TROLLIES AND MISCELLANEOUS OTHER IS OUR CONSULTANT AND WHERE WE PAY INTERFAITH THAT'S WHAT IS REFLECTED THERE IN THE 460 BUT PARK IS RIDE AND BY FAR THE LARGEST EXPENSE IN THE TRANSPORTATION FUND AND IT IS FU FUNDED 47% BY GRANT REVENUES, 27% BY BUS FARES AND THEN WE HAVE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS THAT ARE FUNDING 21% OF IT. AND THEN WITH THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION IS ONLY AT 5%, THE 566,000.

SO THOSE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPERS ARE HUGE AND I KNOW I HAVE HEARD Y'ALL COMPLIMENT IN ALL OF THE EXCELLENT WORK AND I WILL ADD TO THAT SHE'S DONE FANTASTIC.

>> SHE'S AMAZING. AND ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT SHOULD BE OVER THE 3%. AND I THINK OUR UNLC GRAD ON TOP

OF IT. >> SPEAKING OF THE TRNTION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS, AS WE MENTIONED THERE'S 2.3 MILLION DOLLARS ON USING FOR 2027. THOSE ARE FEDERAL TRANSPORTATION FUNDING TOOL THAT'S USED TO MEET WHAT WE USE THOSE INSTEAD OF THE

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AND AGAIN THIS IS A HISTORY, THIS IS SORT OF TRANSPORTATION FUND IS INTERESTING AND THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THERE BUT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DURING COVID PROVIDED A LOT OF CARES ACT AND RPA FUNDING SO WE HAD VERY LITTLE THAT HAD TO BE CONTRIBUTED BY THE GENERAL FUND. THOSE EXPIRED AND PARTIALLY THROUGH IN 2024 AND WE HAVE A BIG JUMP IN 2025 OF HAVING TO FUND OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR TRANSPORTATION AT THE 1.5 MILLION DOLLAR LEVEL. THAT CAME DOWN IN 2026 AND THE REASON THAT WE'RE GOING DOWN IN 27 BACK AGAIN LIKE I SAID TO 500 IS TWO THINGS, THE BUS FAIR INCREASE THAT THE BOARD APPROVED BECAUSE AGAIN WE WANT THE USERS OF THE TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COST PORTION OF THAT AND THEN THE TDCS.

>> AND ALSO A LOT OF THOSE RIDING ARE ACTUALLY NOT FROM THE WOODLANDS AND WE STILL WANT THEM TO RIDE BECAUSE WE NEED THE ECONOMIES OF SCALE. BUT BY RAISING THAT, I LIKE

THAT. >> THAT'S RIGHT.

EXACTLY. OKAY.

WE CAN STOP HERE. IF Y'ALL LIKE.

>> GREAT. OKAY.

I CALL A MOTION AND SECOND TO RECEIVE THE SO FAR TWO THIRDS OF THE WAY THROUGH MONIQUE'S PRESENTATION BUDGET FOR THE

WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. >> SO MOVED.

>> SECOND. >> MOVED BY DIRECTOR FRANK, SECONDED BY DIRECTOR HEISER? DID YOU SAY?

ALL IN FAVOR SAYING AYE. >> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES. ALL RIGHT.

KAREN, WHERE SHE AT? SHE'S NOT HERE.

DO I JUST GO TO ADJOURNMENT? >> I MOVE TO ADJOURN.

>> ALL RIGHT. >> BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS? I MOVE TO ADJOURNMENT AND I CALL A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MOVEMENT. AND MOVED AND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR

BY SAYING AYE. >> AYE.

>> MOTION CARRIES. IT IS

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