[00:00:07] >> GOOD EVENING IS 6 O'CLOCK FEBRUARY 26, 2026. [1. Invocation / Pledge of Allegiance;] CALL THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING TO ORDER. START WITH INVOCATION. CALL ON RABBI-SERVED SINCE JULY 2019. CHAPLAIN FOR MONTGOMERY COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE. GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. >> SO GLAD TO BE HERE. THIS IS MY SECOND INVOCATION OF IT DAY. I STARTED THE MORNING WITH THE SAN-RIVER AUTHORITY INVOCATION AND AS WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WATER I MENTIONED THAT THE LAND OF ISRAEL TEACHES A IMPORTANT LEADERSHIP LESSON BECAUSE THE SEA OF WHICH IS A LAKE GETS WATER FROM THE NORTH AND PASSES TO THE JORDAN RIVER. THE JORDAN RIVER TAKES IT TO ANOTHER SEA, SOUTH AND THAT SEA TAKES THE WATER, HOARDS AND KEEPS IT TO ITSELF. IF YOU HAVE BEEN TO THE SEA OF GAL ALEE IT IS BEAUTIFUL. IT OTHER SEA THERE ISN'T MUCH THERE AND NOT A VERY COMFORTABLE PLACE AND CALLED THE DEAD SEA AND THE MESSAGE OF COURSE IS WE CAN BE THE TYPE OF PERSON WHO RECEIVES AND GIVES OR THE TYPE THAT JUST RECEIVES AND THE LAND OF ISRAEL TEACHES US THAT LESSON. SO, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE GIVING THAT OUR LEADERS OFFER, AND THE BLESSING OF LIVING IN THIS GREAT TOWNSHIP, I OFFER THESE WORDS. SOURCE OF WISDOM AND COMPASSION, WE GATHER TODAY IN TRUSTED WITH THE WELLBEING OF THIS COMMUNITY. GRANT THESE LEADERS CLARITY OF THOUGHT, HUMILITY AND LISTENING, ENCOURAGE AND DECISION MAKING. HELP US ALL REMEMBER THAT PUBLIC SERVICE IS A SACRED RESPONSIBILITY. THE CHOICES MADE IN THIS ROOM EFFECT FAMILIES, NEIGHBORHOODS, BUSINESSES AND THOSE THAT WILL FOLLOW. WHEN THERE ARE DISAGREEMENTS, LET THEM ALWAYS BY GUIDED BY RESPECT. GRANT PATIENCE AND STEADYNESS. INTEGRITY SHAPE EVERY VOTE AND VOICE. BLESS THE TOWNSHIP WITH SAFETY, OPPORTUNITIES AND SPIRIT OF SHARED RESPONSIBILITY AND MAY THE WORK UNDERTAKEN HERE TONIGHT STRENGTHEN TRUST AND SERVE THE GENERAL COMMUNITY. WE SAY AMEN. >> THANK YOU. POINT OUT ISRAEL IS A PROLIFIC INNOVATOR OF DESALINIZATION AS WELL. WE CAN LEARN A LOT FROM. THANK YOU SO MUCH AS ALWAYS. DIRECTOR FRANKS WILL LEAD IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND TEXAS PLEDGE. >> I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >> TEXTS PLEDGE, PLEASE. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDEVISIVE. >> THANK YOU DIRECTOR FRANKS. ITEM 2, IT IS 603 P.M. DECLARE [2. Call meeting to order;] STATE LAW NOTICE OF THE MEETING POSTED THREE DAYS ADVANCE IN THE MEETING INSIDE THE TOWNSHIP AT THIS OFFICE BUILDING. STATE LAW REQUIRES AT LEAST 4 BOARD MEMBERS BE IN ATTENDANCE. INDICATE BY RESPONDABLE WITH A SOUND. THE ROLL CALL IS DETERMINED BY SUFFICIENT NUMBER PRESENT TO DECLARE WE HAVE QUORUM. [3. Receive, consider and act upon adoption of the meeting agenda;] 3, RECEIVE CONSIDER ADOPT MEETING AGENDA. REVIEW THE AGENDA 1-3. MOTION AND SECOND TO ADAULT THE AGENDA BUT WE'LL PULL FROM THE REGULAR ITEM 8 AND 14 FOR NEXT MONTH'S-MOVE TO NEXT MONTH'S TOWNSHIP MEETING. DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVE. >> SECOND. >> MOVED BY DIRECTOR FRANKS AND SECOND BY DIRECTOR HEISLER. [4. Recognize public officials;] MOTION CARRIES. RECOGNITION OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS. DO NOT HAVE ANYONE REGISTERED BUT WE HAVE A NEWLY ELECTED PUBLIC OFFICIAL, THE HONORABLE SCOTT PRESTON REPRESENTING THE STERLING RIDGE RDRC. WELCOME. >> EASY FOR YOU TO SAY. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALSO, [INAUDIBLE] DID NOT SIGN UP BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO; HE IS IN HIS CHAIR. [00:05:03] HAVE TO GET A PLAQUE FOR THE SEAT BACK THERE. [5. Public comment;] THAT'S ALL THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS. PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING. OPEN MEETINGS OF BOARD OF DIRECTORS IS WELCOMED ENCOURAGED. THE PUBLIC AGENDA IS INCLUDED AT ALL PARTICIPATING IN PUBLIC MEETING. WISHING TO ADDRESS THE BOARD SIGN THE ROSTER PROVIDED BY THE BOARD SECRETARY. INDIVIDUALS WHO WISH TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS ADDRESS THE TOPIC NOT ON THE AGENDA OR WISH TO ADDRESS THE SPECIFIC ITEM MUST DO SO UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMENT AGENDA. LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. REGARDLESS OF THE NUMBER OF TOPICS, ANY MORE THEN 15 SPEAKERS FOR ONE PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE, LIMITED TO TWO MINUTES. TAKEN IN THE ORDER THEY SIGN UP. SPEAKERS NOT ALLOWED TO YIELD TIME TO ANOTHER SPEAKER IN THE LIST. STATE LAW PROHIBITS THE BOARD FORMALLY ACTING ON A ITEM UNLESS ON THE AGENDA, THEREFORE ANY BORD DISCUSSION OF ITEMS NOT ON THE AGENDA IS LIMITED TO QUESTIONS FOR CLARIFICATION AND WHETHER AN ILETM SHOULD BE PLACED ON FUTURE BOARD AGENDA. SPEAKERS EXPRESS OPINIONS AND VIEWPOINTS BUT NOT PERMITTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DEBATE. SPEAKERS WILL NOT USE PROFANITY. COMMENTS MADE TO THE BOARD AS A WHOLE OR INDIVIDUAL DIRECTORS. ALSO LIKE TO PUT YOUR CELL PHONES ON SILENT. I CALL ON THE FIRST PERSON, ANN LEONE. PODIUM, PLEASE MA'AM. WELCOME ANN. >> THOSE ARE A LOT OF RULES AND I HOPE I'M FOLLOWING-- >> TRUST ME, I WISH- LIMIT SOME OF THOSE THINGS BUT MAY GET BLOW-DARTED BY A CERTAIN STAFF MEMBER. >> SO, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. I AM PRETTY SURE I'M SPEAKING FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF RESIDENTS IN THE WOODLANDS AND IT IS ON THE SUBJECT OF THE TUNNEL VISION CHALLENGE AND WE ALL KNOW-I LIVED IN THE WOODLANDS SINCE 1993. THAT IS WHEN I WAS 13. THAT WAS A JOKE. [LAUGHTER] I LIVED HERE A LONG TIME AND SEEN THE WOODLANDS CHANGE AND GROW AND THE GROWING PAINS AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER THING AND KNOW THERE ARE CERTAINLY ISSUES WITH PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR-JUST CHALLENGES WITH THAT. I KNOW. I LIVE WAY BACK IN ALL ALDEN BRIDGE AND SEE CHALLENGES BACK THERE ALL THE TIME AS WELL. SO, REALLY I THINK THAT IN REGARDS TO THE CONCEPT OF THE TUNNEL, I THINK THE THING THAT IS FOREMOST-ON MY MIND IS THAT HOW RUSHED THIS ALL SEEMED AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WAS A DEADLINE FOR THE 23 TO GET THE APPLICATION IN AND ALL THAT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IT JUST SEEMED LIKE ALL A SUDDEN I READ ABOUT THIS AND IT WAS BEING APPLIED FOR AND I THINK THAT THEY ARE GOING TO ESTABLISH WHO HAS WON ON THE 23 OF MARCH IF I'M CORRECT. SO, THERE IS NO ASSURANCE THAT THE WOODLANDS WILL BE CHOSEN OUT OF ALL THE NUMBERS OF THE APPLICANTS, BUT I LIKE TO IMPLORE, EXPECT, DEMAND THAT THERE IS TOTAL TRANSPARENCY FROM THE TOWNSHIP TOWARDS THE RESIDENTS HERE, BECAUSE I REALLY FEEL LIKE THE RESIDENTS NEED TO HAVE A VOICE IN THIS AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE LIKE YOU KNOW WHEN WE ARE THE PROBLEM WITH WOODLANDS PARKWAY OUT TO THE MALL, THERE WAS A REFERENDUM. I LIKE TO SEE SOME LIKE SAY-I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M RIGHT. IF THE MAJORITY OF THE TOWNSHIP WANTS TO HAVE THE TUNNEL THEN SO BE IT. BUT I JUST WANT US TO HAVE A VOICE. >> ABSOLUTELY. >> SO, THERE IS QUESTIONS I HAVE ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION AND SOMEBODY MENTIONED THE PIPELINE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A MAJOR RAIN EVENT. WOULD IT GET FLOODED? PLEASE REASSURE ME AND SURE THAT WILL BE FORTHCOMING WITH ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WOULD COME OUT FROM BEING CHOSEN. JUST COUPLE OTHER LITTLE POINTS. I WONDER, THIS IS FOR ONE MILE SEGMENT AND I THINK THERE IS INTENTION TO EVEN EXTEND FURTHER, SO THIS ONE MILE SEGMENT MIGHT BE FREE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND EVERYTHING, BUT WHAT ABOUT THE EXTENSION? WHO WILL PAY FOR THAT? IS IT TRUE WE ARE NOT PAYING [00:10:02] ANYTHING FOR THE FREE MILE? JUST NEED REASSURANCE ON THAT. CONSTRUCTION COST. THAT SORT OF THING. OPERATIONAL COST. I DON'T KNOW--I THINK SOME OF YOU WENT TO VISIT THE LOOP IN LAS VEGAS-MY TIME IS UP. >> YOU CAN CONTINUE. >> DO THEY HAVE TO PAY TO USE THAT AMENITY? >> NO. >> THEY DON'T? OKAY. SO, WHERE IS ALL THE MONEY GOING FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND-WHERE IS THAT COMING? >> I CAN'T KEEP-- >> WE CAN'T DISCUSS. OKAY. JUST POINT TAKEN, OKAY? MY LAST COMMENT IS THAT, MY PARENTS ALWAYS TAUGHT ME YOU KNOW, TO REMEMBER THAT IF IT SOUND TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, MAYBE IT IS. SO, JUST PLEASE BE IN TOUCH WITH US AS RESIDENTS AND LET US KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE IT. WILL YOU GIVE MY CARD TO HER? MY CELL IS ON BACK. LOVE TO VISIT OFFLINE. THERE ARE A LOT OF VALID QUESTIONS AND WILL TRY TO DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO ANSWER THEM. >> I AS WELL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT UP, NANCY LOU. NANCY, WELCOME. >> GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN BAILEY AND BOARD OF DIRECTORS, NANCE A LOU, A RESIDENT OF [INAUDIBLE] HERE TODAY TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE DANGER OF MOTORIZED VEHICLES ON PEDESTRIAN WALKWAYS USUALLY FROM THE PARK TO OUR SUBDIVISION. I'M A CURRENT MEMBER OF THE ROWING CLUB AT NORTH SHORE PARK AND USED TO WALK ON THE WALKWAY FROM MY HOUSE TO THE CLUB DAILY. A FEW MONTHS AGO I STOPPED BECAUSE IT WAS FAR TOO DANGEROUS WITH THE MOTORIZED VEHICLES AND OFTEN FOUND MYSELF RAN OFF THE PATH AND CURSED AT. NOT ONLY ARE THE MOTORIZED VEHICLES DANGEROUS, THE PEOPLE RIDING THEM ARE PRETTY RECKLESS. OVER THE PAST MONTH, MANY RESIDENTS RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT SAFETY FOR THE ADULT, CHILDREN AND PETS THAT WALK THE PATH. JUST LAST WEEK, THERE WAS A ELDERLY PEDESTRIAN THAT HAD TO BE TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL AFTER BEING STRUCK BY A ELECTRIC SCOOTER. THE TOWNSHIP BE PROACTIVE MONITORING THE SAFETY OF THE CITIZENS, THE REGULATIONS FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES IN THE WOODLANDS NEED TO BE MORE PROMINENTLY DISPLAYED. VIOLATORS SHOULD HAVE CONSEQUENCES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU NANCY. APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> WISH I COULD SAY CAN I GET A AMEN, BUT I CAN'T. >> YOU CAN. >> WILLIAM MORRIS, CORRECT? >> YES. >> WELCOME. >> HELLO. LIFETIME RESIDENT OF THE WOOD LNTDS. I GREW UP COCHRANE CROSSING AND NOW LIVE IN NAIB NOB FROM THE PROPOSED GOLF COURSE. GEORGE MITCHELL VISION FOR THE WOODLANDS IS MINIMIZE CUTTING TREES. -WE HAVE A FEW GOLF CORSSS THRMPT IS THE CLUB AT CARLTON. THE SPRING COUNTRY CLUB. THE WILLOW CREEK GOLF CLUB. THE GOLF TRAILS. ADJUSTA PINES. WOODLANDS COUNTRY CLUB. [INAUDIBLE] GARY PLAYER COURSE, CARLTON WOODS. SOME WITHIN A MILE OF THE PROPOSED LOCATION. A FEW WITHIN A HALF MILE. I AM ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE UPKEEP OF SUCH A GOLF COURSE. IT IS NOT CHEAP TO MAINTAIN A GOLF COURSE. THEY HAVE TO CUT THE GRASS, WATER IT, IT IS A LOT OF WATER AND WE ALREADY HAVE WATER TROUBLES WITH THE WATER TABLE BELOW AND HAVING TO IMPORT WATER FROM LAKE CONROW SO THIS WOULD MAKE THE PROBLEM A LITTLE WORSE. ALSO, I TALKED TO A FEW GOLFERS WHO SAID THEY ARE FAMILIAR WITH A FEW GOLF COURSES IN HARRIS COUNTY THAT HAD TO BE SHUT DOWN DUE TO COST OVERRUNS. I WAS NOT ABLE TO VERIFY THIS BUT THAT IS HERESAY THEN. I ASK IS THE TOWNSHIP BETTER RUNNING GOLF COURSES THEN MAYBE THE OTHER GOLF COURSES OR AM I GOING TO PAY FOR THE UPKEEP IN THE FORM OF PROPERTY TAXES? IN THE ARTICLE ABOUT THIS AND THE COMMUNITY IMPACT, I READ THAT THE MAIN BENEFIT MIGHT BE HIGHER PROPERTY VALUES. I THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE [00:15:01] ALREADY BE A LOT OF PROPERTY VALE COMING FROM THE AVAILABILITY OF GOLF COURSES AND WIDE SELECTION AND OF POSSIBLE HOLES THAT COULD BE SHOT INTO. SO, I THINK THERE'S A GOOD ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS MENTIONED LAST WEEK BY ANOTHER COMMENTER THAT THERE'S ALREADY THE NEARBY GEORGE MITCHELL NATURE PRESERVE IS ADJACENT TO IT,B AND THERE IS A TRAIL RUNNING UNDER THE BRIDGE AND SO, IT MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO HOOK THAT DONATION UP INSTEAD OF BUILDING ANOTHER GOLF COURSE. THIS MIGHT BE MORE IN THE SPIRIT OF THE WOODLANDS AND WHAT WE LIKE IT TO BE AND THE PEOPLE WHO MOVE HERE APPRECIATE ABOUT IT. LASTLY, I DON'T PLAY GOLF, BUT I AM AFRAID TO--THAT--I'M NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO FEELS THIS WAY. I HAVE SPOKEN TO A LOT OF NEIGHBORS AND THEY ALSO ARE NOT TOO EAGER TO HAVE A PUBLIC GOLF COURSE. IT MIGHT SAVE MONEY FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE-I'M AT TIME. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THAT CONCLUDES OUR PUBLIC COMMENT. [6. Receive, consider and act upon reports from Village Association representatives;] MOVING ON TO ITEM 6. RECEIVE AND CONSIDER ACT APOUN REPORTS FROM THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATION REPRESENTATIVES. MARIANNE POLK. WELCOME. FROM ALDEN BRIDGE. >> GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN BAILEY AND DIRECTORS. MARIANNE BRAID. WE HELD OUR LAST MEETING TUESDAY FEBRUARY 10. WE LIKE TO THANK DIRECTOR HEISER FOR JOINING US AND GIVING A UPDATE ON THE EXPANSION AND ALSO ANSWERED A FEW QUESTIONS SO THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR MEETING. WE ALSO RECEIVED THE LAW ENFORCEMENT REPORT. KIMBERLEY THE DIRECTOR OF COVENANT ADMINISTRATION WAS OUR SPEAKER AT THE MEETING. SHE GAVE US INFORMATIONAL PRESENTATION AND FOCUS AND RESPONSIBILITIES AND INCLUDED WAYS FOR RESIDENTS TO REACH IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. TWO CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS DID NOT FILE FOR REELECTION. WE LIKE TO THANK REGGIE AND ANDREA FOR MANY CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR BOARD AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY. ANNUAL MEETING IS THIRD TUESDAY IN MARCH ON THE 17TH. WE CHANGE THE MEETING FROM THE TWO TUESDAY OF MARCH TO THE THIRD BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK. WE WILL SEAT THE BOARD ELECT OFFICERS AND PLAN ACTIVITIES FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR. PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE FOR INFORMATION ABOUT OUR SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM. STUDENT MAY APPLY FOR A SCHOLARSHIP TO 4 YEAR UNIVERSITY OR TRADE SCHOOL AND THE DEAD BP LINE IS MIDNIGHT MARCH 13. OUR MEETINGS ARE ON THE SECOND TUESDAY OF EACH MONTH ACCEPT FOR ANNUAL MEETING WHICH WILL BE ON THE THIRD IN MARCH AND BEGINNING AT 6:30. ALL RESIDENTS ARE INVITED AND ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND. THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT UP IS TRACY--[INAUDIBLE] GOD'S COUNTRY. >> THANK YOU VERY GLAD TO BE HERE. I WASN'T HERE LAST MONTH BECAUSE MY WIFE AND I WERE ON A 14 DAY CRUISE. JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW, COCHRANE CROSSING WE MET TUESDAY NIGHT. WE HAVE 17 MEMBERS OF THE 18. 13 OF OUR MEMBERS ARE RETURNING. WE HAVE 4 NEW ONES SO ONE OPENING WE WILL BE ADVERTISING. AT THE JANUARY MEETING WE GAVE OUT $10 THOUSAND IN GRANTS TO THE DAVID ELEMENTARY RECEIVED 1700. GLADIS[INAUDIBLE] THE WAY WE DO THAT IS HAVE A ONLINE GRANT APPLICATION WHERE TEACHERS GO IN AND ASK FOR WHAT THEY WANT. AND WE AWARD THAT TO THEM. WE HAD 21 TEACHERS THERE AND 2 PRINCIPALS. IF YOU WANTTO COME THAT IS A GOOD ONE TO BE AT BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL THERE AND IT IS A GREAT TIME TO CELEBRATE THEM. WE DID SET OUR DATES PROPOSED DATES FOR THE POOL PARTY AND FALL FESTIVAL AND CHECKING WITH THE TOWNSHIP TO MAKE SURE THE WORK. THE SCHOLARSHIPS ARE ONLINE. WE ALSO HAVE TAKEN THEM TO THE OFFICES OF THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS IN OUR AREAS SO THEY HAVE THOSE IN THE COUNSELOR OFFICE SO STUDENTS CAN APPLY FOR OUR SCHOLARSHIPS. OUR NEXT MEETING THE ANNUAL MEETING AND ELECT OFFICERS AND WILL HAVE KAREN DEMPSEY THE [00:20:01] SPEAKER TO SHARE ABOUT HER PART OF WHAT SHE DOES IN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP AND LET US KNOW ABOUT HER DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. THAT IS ALL THE VILLAGE ASSOCIATION PRESIDENT REPORTS. MOTION AND SECOND TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORTS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [ CONSENT AGENDA] MOVING ON. CONSENTS AGENDA. NON CONTROVERSIAL OR HOUSEKEEPING CONSIDERED APPROVAL AS A GROUP WITH ONE MOTION. NO DISCUSSION WILL TAKE PLACE UNLESS REMOVED AND PLACED ON THE AGENDA PRIOR TO TAKING VOTE ON THE MOTION. PAGES 4-35 OF THE AGENDA. DO I HAVE A MOTION? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOVED BY HEISLER AND SECOND BY DR. SEKULA-GIBBS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO THE REGULAR AGENDA. I'M GOING TO--PULLING 8 AND 14, CORRECT? [9. Receive, consider, and act upon fares and related service increase for The Woodlands Express;] YES. GOING TO ITEM 9. RECEIVE AND CONSIDER ACT UPON FARES RELATED TO SERVICE INCREASE FOR WOODLAND EXPRESS. 37 AND 43 AND CALL ON RUTH ANN HAWK TO PRESENT. WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING BOARD OF DIRECTORS. DURING THE FY-2026 BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUDGET MEETINGS, THE BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO IMPLEMENT A FARE INCREASE FOR THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS PARK AND RIDE PROGRAM. SO, HERE IS A QUICK TIMELINE OF THE PROCESS. AS PART OF THE PROCESS, THE TOWNSHIP IS REQUIRED BY THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION TO COMPLETE A PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS, WHICH CONSIST OF 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, THEN THE OFFICIAL BOARD VOTE ON THE APPROVAL OF THE INCREASE, FOLLOWED BY A 30 DAY PUBLIC NOTIFICATION PERIOD. IF THE BOARD WERE TO APPROVE THE INCREASE THIS EVENING, IT GOES INTO EFFECT APRIL 1. SO, STAFF INITIATED THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION PROCESS ON JANUARY 5 FOR 30 DAYS. WITH THE 30 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. AND DURING THIS PERIOD, THE STAFF RECEIVED 7 COMMENTS VIA E-MAIL. ALL OPPOSED TO THE INCREASE AND FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE COMMENTS IS INCLUDED WITH THE BOARD ITEM. ADDITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A MARKET INCREASE IN RIDERSHIP SEEN OVER THE PAST-ESPECIALLY THE PAST 18-24 MONTHS. GOOD YEAR IN TRANSIT WHEN WE SEE 5 PERCENT GROWTH IN RIDERSHIP YEAR OVER YEAR. BETWEEN 2023 AND 2024, RIDERSHIP INCREASED 11 PERCENT AND THEN THIS PREVIOUS YEAR FROM 2024-2025, WE SAW ADDITIONAL 14 PERCENT INCREASE OVER THAT. ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU SEE THE LITTLE RED DOT THERE, THAT IS THE ONE DATA POINT FOR 2026 WHICH IS SHOWING A 22 PERCENT INCREASE IN JANUARY, THE MONTHLY RIDERSHIP YEAR OVER YEAR, AND ACCORDING TO RIDERS ARE LOT ARE VERY VOCAL AND TALK TO US A LOT AND LET US KNOW THEY ARE BACK AT THE OFFICE. THEY HAVE BEEN CALLED BACK ESPECIALLY MONDAY AND THURSDAY. BACK IN THE OFFICE TYPICALLY FOUR DAYS A WEEK NOW WITH A FLEX FRIDAY FOR MOST PEOPLE. SO, ALONG WITH THIS INCREASE WE ARE ASKING AND REQUESTING ADDITIONAL TWO SERVICE RUNS TO ACCOMMODATE THESE INCREASES IN RIDERSHIP. SO, THE RECOMMENDATION IS TO APPROVE $2 FARE INCREASE FOR WOODLANDS EXPRESS PARK AND RIDE PROGRAM, INCREASING THE ROUND TRIP FARE FROM $15-17 FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON APRIL 1, 2026 AND APPROVE TWO ADDITIONAL RUNS TO RESPOND TO CHANGING RIDERSHIP PATTERNS. >> WHERE ARE THE ADDITIONAL RUN SNZ WHAT IS MOST POPULAR? >> WHAT WE ARE CONSIDERING NOW IS MID-DAY RUNS. A LOT INDICATED THEY ARE LEAVING THE OFFICE EARLIER AND EARLIER. IT USED TO BE EVERYBODY HAS TO BE IN THE OFFICE 8 A.M. AND LEAVE AT 5, MAYBE 430. NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS. TRYING TO GET HOME TO GET MY KID. WE HEARD KINDER MORGAN THEY ARE CLOSING OFFICES AT 3:30 EVERY DAY. THAT IS WHAT-YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE OFFICE BUT CAN LEAVE AT 3. IT IS INDICATION. WE ARE LOOKING AT ADDING MORE IN THE MID-DAY HOURS. OUR 4 P.M. BUSES ARE ALSO FULL NOW SO WE WILL LOOK AND SEE HOW PATTERNS ARE OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS. >> IS THAT THE ENERGY CORRIDOR? >> DOWNTOWN. MEDICAL CENTER BUSES HAVE BEEN VERY FULL AND DOWNTEN RIDERSHIP IS COMING BACK. [00:25:10] >> CAN YOU SHARE WHY NEED OF INCREASE IN THE FARE OF $2? >> SO, WHEN WE FIRST DID A-BACK IN 2024, WE DID A TRANSIT PLAN STUDY. THE MONEY CAME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND IT WAS ABOUT IS LOOKING AT SHIFTING TRAVEL PATTERNS POST PANDEMIC AND DO YOUR SERVICES STILL FIT AND THROUGH THAT STUDY, PART OF IT WAS THE MAINTENANCE FACILITY WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE TO REDUCE DEAD-HEAD FOR EFFICIENCY AND OPERATIONAL COSTS ARE GOING UP. THE FARE INCREASE KEEPS STEP WITH THAT. THERE WAS INITIALLY TWO STEP INCREASE RECOMMENDED WITH THE ORIGINAL PLAN. WE IMPLEMENTED THE FIRST ONE, WHICH TOOK FARES FROM $13 TO $15 IN APRIL 2024. THERE WAS ANOTHER PLANNED WE ENDED UP NOT INSTITUTEING AT THE TIME. IT WAS WILL BE TO $16.50 BUT THROUGH THE CONSIDERATION AND BOARD MEETING WE ARE AT ABOUT A YEAR LATER HERE SAYING IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO GO AHEAD AND DO A ROUND NUMBER FOR ADMINISTRATIVE PURPOSES. IT ALSO IS GOOD TO LOOK AT FARES EVERY 5 YEARS AND LOOK AT MAKE SURE YOUR FARES ARE KEEPING UP WITH COST OF SERVICE. >> TO CLARIFY, IS THAT ONE WAY OR ROUND TRIP? >> ROUND TRIP. >> I THINK THAT IS A BARGAIN. I THINK IT IS A BARGAIN. >> ABSOLUTELY. TOLLS AND-- >> YES. I ALSO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PAYING ATTENTION TO FAMILIES, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES WHO WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE BUS, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. WHAT IF THEY HAVE A EMERGENCY? AND IF THERE IS NO RETURN TRIP IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, THEN THEY ARE STUCK, RIGHT? THEY HAVE TO PAY URBER WHICH IS PROBABLY LIKE $70 TO GET BACK. I THINK YOUR ATTENTION TO THAT PARTICULAR MID-DAY RETURN AND THREE P.M. RETURN, IT WILL MAKE IT A LOT MORE COMFORTBLE FOR PARENTS OF CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO COME HOME AND IN CASE THEY NEED TO. >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS, BUT I WANT TO START LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN BENEFIT THE RESIDENTS OF THE WOODLANDS. SO, IF YOU LIVE IN THE WOODLANDS AND ARE A TAXPAYER OF WOODLANDS AND PAYING TAXES REGULARLY HERE, HOW CAN YOU GET LESS FEE THEN SOMEONE DRIVES AND PARKS IN THE PARK AND RIDE LOTS? IT SEEMS OUR TAXPAYERS, OUR RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET A LOWER BUS FEE THEN SOMEONE THAT DOESN'T LIVE HERE. >> WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO THAT. I'M NOT SURE OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD WHAT THE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE IT IS FUNDED THROUGH THAT. I HAVE TO RUN IT BY THAT AND SEE THE PROGRAM WE CAN SET UP. THEY HAVE THINGS FOR SENIORS, VETERANS, STUDENTS. THOSE ARE THE TYPICAL REDUCED FARE PROGRAMS BUT I CAN SEE IF THERE IS A SET WE CAN DO. >> THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE FORBIDDEN. >> WE CAN LOOK--THE LAST TIME WE LOOKED THE REGULATIONS WOULD NOT ALLOW US TO DO THAT, BUT THAT HAS BEEN A WHILE AND WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK. >> JUST SAYING, WE GOT A LOT OF RESIDENTS-I THINK A LOT OF RESIDENTS USE IT, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT COME FROM THE OUTSIDE AND NUMBERS ARE GREAT, BUT AS WE START LOOKING AT THINGS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING ACROSS MANY FRONTS, WE GO TO KEEP THE TAXPAYERS IN MIND BECAUSE THEY ARE PAYING FOR IT. >> ONE WAY I LIKE TO LOOK AT IT, THE MORE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE SUBSIDY THE SERVICE FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT DO WANT TO RIDE, SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN BRING FROM OUTSIDE THE WOODLANDS TO RIDE AND MORE THEY PAY FARES THE MORE THAT SPREADS THE COST AND NOT JUST PUTTING THE COST ON THE TOWNSHIP RESIDENTS. SO THAT IS ONE WAY WE DO VIEW IT SOMETIMES. IF WE BRING MORE PEOPLE FROM MAGNOLIA OR [INAUDIBLE] THOSE ARE SEATS ON THE BUS THAT HELP OFF-SET THE COST FOR THE- >> THAT IS VALID. CAN WE COLLECT ZIP CODES? >> WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION. >> COULD YOU UPDATE ON THAT? >> YEAH, I HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. MOST RECENT ONE WAS ABOUT 55-60 PERCENT ARE REDLANDS RESIDENT, VARIES BY PARK AND RIDE. SAWDUST HAS THE LOWEST RESIDENTIAL RATE. RESEARCH FOREST IS 55 PERCENT RESIDENTS AND STERLING RIDGE IS THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP WHICH IS 80 PERCENT. >> INTERESTING TO SEE THE DATA CHBLT. >> I CAN PROVIDE IT. >> IF THERE IS FLEXIBILITY FOR STUDENT AND SENIORS. AND, THERE IS FOR SENIORS AND [00:30:01] STUDENTS AND VETERANS. THAT IS TYPICAL FARE REDUCTION PROGRAM THE FTA-LOCATIONS. >> I CAN TELL YOU, ONE BIGGEST SHOCKS BEING ON THIS BOARD IS TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT USE OUR TRANSIT SYSTEM AND TROLLEYS ESPECIALLY. I'M LIKE, WOW. I WORK IN TOWN CENTER AND 15 PEOPLE ON A WEDNESDAY ON A TROLLEY YOU ARE LIKE, IT IS INCREDIBLE. AND ALSO WOODLANDS EXPRESS SO THAT IS TESTAMENT TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM LEADERSHIP. >> THE MORE PEOPLE WHO USE THE EXPRESS BUS, THE LESS CONGESTION AND DELAYS IT IS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DRIVING. THAT ARE GETTING BENEFIT FROM IT EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT EVER SETTING FOOT ON A BUS. >> MORE ADS AND MORE ROUTES SELLING WOOD LANDS RIGHT AND LEFT, BABY. GOOD THING. >> RUTHANN, PRIOR TO 2024, WAS THERE-WAS THAT THE FIRST FARE INCREASE? >> THAT WAS THE FIRST FARE INCREASE I BELIEVE SINCE 2016. >> OKAY. >> GREAT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? >> I DON'T YOU HAVE A QUESTION BUT YOU CAN FILL IN ON THE RODEO AND WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE? >> SURE. ANY TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE RODEO. WE ARE IN SEASON, SO TONIGHT IS ACTUALLY OUR FIRST RODEO EXPRESS RUN DOWN TO THE PRE-RODEO BBQ COOK-OFF AND CONTEST AND SO WE WILL BE RUNNING NOW EVERY DAY OF THE RODEO SEASON FROM OPENING DAY NEXT MONDAY THROUGH TO THE END. TICKETS ARE ON SALE ON THE WEBSITE. WE HAVE IT SEPARATE BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A POPULAR PROGRAM THAT SELLS OUT. WE DON'T HAVE THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS TICKETS YOU USE. IT IS SEPARATE RESERVATION SITE. MORE LIKE A AIRPLANE LIKE SOUTHWEST BECAUSE YOU DON'T CHOOSE YOUR SEAT WHEN YOU BUY A TICKET, BUT YOU BUY A SEAT OEN THE BUS BECAUSE IT IS SO POPULAR AND WE DO SELL OUT. AT THIS POINT WE SOLD 30 PERCENT OF TICKETS WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. THE FASTEST WE EVER SOLD TICKETS SO THE WORD IS OUT, THE COMMUNICATION TEAM HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB GETTING THE WORD OUT AND PEOPLE ON THE BUS. AS YOU SAID BRAD, THERE IS PEOPLE WHO ARE RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO USE THE SERVICE. I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. THINGS LIKE THE RODEO FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE ASSETS WE HERE AT THE TOWNSHIP HAVE FOR THEM. >> I WAS AT THE DINNER LAST NIGHT AND TOPIC OF DISCUSSION. YOU CAN PREREGISTERED AND PRE-BUY TICKETS. >> IT IS SAFE AND IT IS VERY CONVENIENT. YOU ARE CLOSER, DROPPED OFF CLOSER TO THE RODEO AND JUST ABOUT ANY OTHER WAY, INCLUDING UBER THAT YOU CAN PROBABLY WANT. IT IS RIGHT THERE WHERE THE RODEO IS HAPPENING. IT IS SUPER EASY. EVERYBODY LOVES IT, AND IT'S PRETTY WEATHER INDEPENDENT TOO. THAT IS THE OTHER PART. I WANT TO MENTION THAT THIS PARTICULAR SUPPORT THAT WE GET FROM THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS AND WHAT THE TAXPAYERS ARE GIVING BACK TO THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS GIVES US A OPPORTUNITY TO GROW IT AND IF WE CAN REVERSE REENGINEER WE CAN SOME DAY BRING PEOPLE FROM HOUSTON TO THE WOODLANDS, THEREBY REDUCING THE PARKING DEMAND AND THE SURFACE TRAFFIC DEMAND. NOW WE ARE ALWAYS DOING THE OPPOSITE, TAKE PEOPLE FROM WOODLANDS TO HOUSTON. THINK OUT OF THE BOX. WE CAN BRING FOR BIG EVENTS, CYNTHIA WOODS PAVILION, MARATHON AND TRIATHLON AND BRING THEM HERE. THERE ARE FEWER PEOPLE DRIVING CARS AND NEEDING PARKT. WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE EXPRESS BUS. >> JOB SECURITY FOR YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION JUST HISTORICAL PREFERENCE. MONIQUE YOU MAY CHIME IN. WHEN WE STARTED THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS, DID YOU GET PEOPLE SAYING THIS IS THE CRAZIEST IDEA EVER? WHY ARE WE IN THE BUS BUSINESS? >> THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS WAS PART OF THE ORIGINAL VISION FOR THE WOODLANDS. WE HAD FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION MONEY IN THE 70'S THAT HELPED CREATE THE PARK AND RIDE. IT WAS A DIFFERENT ORGANIZATION, THE TOWNSHIP DIDN'T EXIST. MONTGOMERY COUNTY TRANSIT DISTRICT WAS FORMED AND I WASN'T THERE. I BELIEVE GEORGE MITCHELL HELPED SHEPHERD THAT INTO EXISTENCE BECAUSE HE UNDERSTOOD THIS WAS A COMMUNITY QUITE FAR AWAY AND GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME IN ORDER FOR THE LIVE/WORK/PLAY TO COME INTO FRUDITION SO HE BUILT IT KNOWING PEOPLE NEED TO GET TO WORK IN HOUSTON AND SO, I HAVE A COUPLE MAPS IN MY OFFICE FROM THE 80 AND 90 OF THE WOODLAND EXPRESS. IT IS PART OF THE FUNDAMENTAL BEGINNING OF THE WOODLANDS MPTD >> HE WAS A VISIONARY NO DOUBT. [00:35:01] >> ABSOLUTELY. INCREDIBLE TO SEE THE NUMBER OF BUSES RUNNING AND TROLLEYS BLOW ME AWAY. ALRIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >> STAY TUNED. >> GET YOUR TICKETS TODAY FOR THE RODEO. >> I CALL ON THE MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE $2 FARE INCREASE FOR WOODLAND EXPRESS PARK AND RIDE FROM 15 TO $17 FOR IMPLEMENTATION ON APRIL 1, 2026 AND APPROVE TWO ADDITIONAL RUNS TO RESPAUBD CHANGING RIDERSHIP COMMUTING PATTERNS. MOVED BY SEKULA-GIBBS, SECOND BY DIRECTOR FRANKS. ALL IN FAVOR AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. RUTHANN YOU ARE NOT LEAVING. [10. Receive, consider, and act upon vehicle disposition options for The Woodlands Express commuter buses and Trolley fleet in compliance with updated Federal Transportation Administration regulations;] ITEM 10. RECEIVE AND CONSIDER ACT UPON VEHICLE DISPOSITION OPTION FOR THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS COMMUTER BUSES AND TROLLEY FLEET IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE UP DATED FTA. 44-51 OF THE PACTS. WELCOME BACK. >> THANK YOU. I BRING THE ITEM TO YOU BECAUSE THE EXCITING NEWS THAT WE ARE GETTING OUR NEW TROLLEY FLEET AND OUR NEW WOODLANDS EXPRESS FLEET FINGERS CROSSED THIS CALENDAR YEAR. WITH THAT IN MIND STAFF IS SEEKING ON THE DISPOSAL OF THE FLEET VEHICLES THAT MET THE DESIGNATED END OF USEFUL LIFE. SO, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE VEHICLES NECESSARILY CAN'T RUN ANYMORE, IT IS JUST THAT THE FEDERAL INTEREST OF THE MANY YEARS COMING OUT ARE DONE. IT IS USUALLY 10 YEARS FOR OUR VEHICLES. LITTLE LESS FOR THE TROLLEYS BECAUSE THEY HAVE HIGH MALLAGE. MILEAGE. THE GOODMAN CORPORATION AND ALSO THE WOODLANDS EXPRESS CONTRACT MAINTENANCE AND OPERATOR-FIRST CLASS TRANSPORTATION, STAFF IS RECOMMENDING THE RETENTION OF FOUR OF THE OLDER TROLLEYS AND 14 OF THE EXISTING WOODLANDS EXPRESS COACH BUSES FOR OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY AND TO THE INSURE ADEQUATE FLEET RESERVES. AND DISPOSE OF REMAINING VEHICLES IN COMPLIANCE WITH THERE FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION DISPOSAL POLICY. >> RUTHANN, IF THE BUSES MET THEIR USEFUL LIFE AND WE RETAIN THEM ARE WE ABLE TO USE THOSE AND REPLACEMENT IN CASE ONE OF THE NEWER ONES IS IN REPAIR? ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT SINCE IT IS TECHNICALLY AT END OF USEFUL LIFE? >> YES, THE TERMINOLOGY IS MORE FROM LIKE A ACCOUNTING PERSPECTIVE HOW MUCH THE BUS VALUED AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SETS THAT THE FLEETS DON'T GET BEYOND USEFUL LIFE AND WANT TO LOOK AT AVERAGE AGE AND HAVE TO GIVE THEM A SCORE EVERY TIME I DO A AUDIT OF THE AVERAGE AGE OF THE VEHICLES AND GIVE A SCORE. BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING NEW VEHICLES AND BLENDING WITH THE OLD WE ARE FINE ON THAT FRONT. THIS IS A OPPORTUNITY TO OFF-SET THE CONTRACTOR OWNED BUSES WE NEED TO USE FOR SERVICE. YOU SEE THE 14 PERCENT GROWTH. WE ARE NOW AT THE POINT WE NEED MORE THEN 25 VEHICLES FOR EVERY DAY SERVICE AND SO WE HAVE BEEN USING THE CONTRACTOR BUSES AND THEY ARE HIGHER RATE PER HOUR THEN BUSES OWNED BY US SO KEEPING THE OLDER FLEET WE DID ENGINE OIL AND ANALYSIS AND ARE TRANSITION CHECKS THEY ARE IN GREAT SHAPE. THEY ARE THE TANKS OF THE-AS LONG AS WE MAINTAIN WELL, THEY WILL CONTINUE TO LAST. WE ARE ABLE TO USE TO OFF-SET THE CONTRACTOR BUSES AND-THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO GO OUT OF SERVICE FOR MORE INTENSIVE MAINTENANCE THEN THE NEW BUSES AND GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY TO CONTINUE TO USE TOWNSHIP OWNED BUSES FOR ALL THAT. NOT NEEDING THE CONTRACTOR BUSES. >> DO I UNDERSTAND ALSO IF WE KEEP THE TROLLEYS THEY CAN BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES THAT WE ARE PROHIBITED UNDER THE FEDERAL? >> YES. WE WOULD NEED TO LOOK INTO BUYING OUT THE FEDERAL INTEREST ON THEM IN ORDER TO DO THAT, BUT THEN IT IS SAME WITH BUSES IF YOU BUY OUT FEDERAL INTEREST AND NO LONGER FEDERAL ASSETS YOU CAN UTILIZE THEM FOR LOCAL PROGRAMS. >> COULD WE--I LOVE THE TROLLEYS, COULD WE REVISIT EVEN KEEPING ONE FOR PURPOSES-HAVING AT THE GALAS AND AVAILABLE FOR VISIT THE WOODLANDS WHEN SPECIAL EVENTS COME TO TOWN TO ESCOURT GUESTS. MAKE THEM RENTABLE. I REMEMBER THAT IT WAS REVENUE GENERATING, BUT WE FORCASTED LOW REVENUE. >> $10 THOUSAND. >> WE WERE NOT GOING INTO THE [00:40:02] RED. I HAVE GOTTEN CALLS SINCE THEN FROM PEOPLE VERY INTERESTED IN THE RENTAL OF A TROLLEY. CAN WE LOOK AT THAT AGAIN? REVISIT EVEN JUST USING ONE FOR THOSE PURPOSES. >> IF WE RETAIN THE 4 THAT GIVES THE FLEXIBILITY FOR ANY PROGRAM THE BOARD WOULD LIKE. IT IS BIRD IN THE HAND, IF YOU KEEP THE VEHICLES NOW WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY. THERE MIGHT BE MORE USE THEN WE KNOW. >> WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ONES WE ARE NOT RETAINING? >> WE WOULD-YOU COULD RETAIN THEM AND USE THEM ELSEWHERE. COULD TRANSFER THEM OR GIVE THEM TO ANOTHER TRANSIT AGENCY IF YOU WANTED TO. IT IS A OPTION. OR YOU CAN SELL THE VEHICLES THROUGH FAIR MARKET. EITHER AUCTION OR LOOKING AT THE KELLY BLUE BOOK VALUE. ALONG THOSE LINES. >> WE ONLY KEEP $5 THOUSAND THAT? >> CORRECT, BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT YOU ONLY RETAIN $10 THOUSAND--THERE WERE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT CREDITS ASSOCIATED SO IT COMES TO BE ABOUT $5 THOUSAND IS WHAT WE ARE ALLOWED TO RETAIN. >> [INAUDIBLE] AND WELL AND CERTAINLY SUPPORT YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON THIS. >> ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? THE MOTION-ADEQUATELY SAID WHAT THE QUESTION WAS ABOUT RETAINING ONE? >> YES, BECAUSE WE'LL RETAIN 4 WITH THIS MOTION AND THEN WE WILL COME BACK FOR DIFFERENT BOARD ITEM ANOTHER DATE ABOUT THE ACTUAL SALE OF THE OTHER ONES. >> HOW MANY ARE WE POTENTIAL LY PUTTING UP FOR SALE? >> IF WE HAVE 6 TROLLEYS WE RETAIN 4 AND PUT 2 FOR SALE. >> LOTS OF NUMBERS. >> [INAUDIBLE] >> IT IS HARD TO SAY WITH A TROLLEY. THE BUSES I HAVE [INAUDIBLE] THE TROLLEYS ARE SUCH A BOUTIQUE UNIQUE HAD VEHICLE THAT COULD BE ANYTHING FROM 10 TO $30 THOUSAND MAYBE $50. WE HAVE TO GO OUT AND SEE. >> CAN SOMEONE PARK A TROLLEY IN THE DRIVEWAY? >> I WAS THINKING THE BUS. >> THE BUSES? >> JUST JOKING. TO APPROVE THE RETENTION OF FOUR TOWN CENTER TROLLEYS AND 14 WOODLAND EXPRESS COMMUTER BUSES FOR FLEXIBILITY AND ADEQUATE FLEET RESERVE AND AUTHORIZE THE STAFF TO DISPOSE REMAINING VEHICLES. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [11. Review, consider and act upon The Woodlands Express Bus wrap funding and design, and a Woodlands Express Design Task Force charter and appointments related thereto;] 11, REVIEW CONSIDER AND ACT UPON THE WOODLAND EXPRESS BUS WRAP FUNDING AND DESIGN AND WOODLANDS EXPRESS DESIGN TASK FORCE CHARTER AND APPOINTMENT RELATED. 52-56. RUTHANN. BUSY GIRL TONIGHT. >> EFFICIENT. >> WOULD YOU LIKE A CHAIR? >> IS IT THE PDF? TONIGHT. THIS PRESENTATION IS IN RESPONSE TO THE BOARD'S REQUEST LAST MONTH MEETING CONCERNING BUS ROUTE DESIGN AND OPTIONS. STAFF PREPARED THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR CONSIDERATION. THESE OPTIONS ARE INTENDED TO PROVIDE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION IN ORDER TO FACILITATE YOUR DECISION MAKING TONIGHT. I WILL QUICKLY GO THROUGH THE BUDGETARY IMPACT OF THE THREE OPTIONS AND PASS IT OVER TO LEE ANN TO TALK ABOUT THE IN-HOUSE OPTION AND LITTLE MORE DEPTH. AND THEN GET GUIDANCE FROM YOU. SO, WE PUT TOGETHER THREE OPTIONS BASED ON IT DISCUSSION FROM THE LAST BOARD MEETING. THE FIRST OPTION IS TO MAINTAIN THE EXISTING DESIGN. THIS ONE HAS NO BUDGET IMPACT AS THERE IS NO DESIGN FEE. ALREADY DESIGNED, AND THE EXISTING FLEET OF THE 14 WE ARE KEEPING WOULD NOT NEED TO BE CHANGED SO NOT COST FOR THOSE. OPTION B IS A NEW DESIGN USING IN-HOUSE STAFF TALENT. THIS OPTION WOULD COST ADDITIONAL 75 TO $110 THOUSAND AND THAT'S JUST TO PAY WRAP INSTILLATION OF THE 14 BUSES SO IT WOULD MATCH THE NEW INCOMING FLEET OF 25. [00:45:01] AND THEN OPTION C IS A NEW DESIGN USING CONTRACTED DESIGN SERVICES AND THIS OPTION WOULD INCREASE THE COST TO BETWEEN 90-158 THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR CONTRACTED DESIGN SERVICE AND WRAP INSTILLATION COST IN OPTION B. I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO LEE ANN FOR HER TO GIVE YOU MORE DETAILS ABOUT THE IN-HOUSE OPTION. >> SO, SINCE WE DO HAVE IN-HOUSE DESIGN, WE THOUGHT WE COULD JUST GO AHEAD AND PRESENT OPTIONS AT A MEETING TO SAVE SOME TIME AND KIND OF GO OVER WHAT WE DO HAVE IN-HOUSE. TO GO THROUGH THAT FAST, I WANTED TO GO AHEAD SCR HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE HAVE IN-HOUSE SERVICES. SO, ACROSS FOUR OF THE KEY STAFF MEMBERS THAT INCLUDES MYSELF, OUR COMMUNICATION MANAGER, OUR SENIOR COMMUNICATION SPECIALIST WHICH IS PERRY. EVERYBODY KNOWS PERRY, YOU HAVE SEEN HIM RUNNING AROUND, AND IN-HOUSE GRAPHIC DESIGNING JACQUELINE BLUE. WE HAVE HUNDRED YEARS OF COMBINED EXPERIENCE AND FOUR ADDITIONAL TEAM MEMBERS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO CREATIVE SERVICES. JACQUELINE ALONE HAS BFA IN COMMUNICATIONS DESIGN AND HOLDS PROFESSIONAL AGENCY BACKGROUND INCLUDING WORKING WHICH IS THE AD AGENCY THAT WORKS WITH VISIT THE WOOD LNTSDS. LAND. REDESIGN THE MAGAZINE AND ACTIVITY GUIDE AND RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RESPECT PATH BRANDING YOU ALL HAVE SEEN. WITH THAT SAID, WE WILL LOOK AT A FEW DIFFERENT THINGS. FIRST WE'LL LOOK AT THE CURRENT DESIGNS OF THE EXPRESS BUS. THESE WERE DESIGNED IN 2015 BY COMMUNICATION STAFF WITH GUIDANCE FROM TRANSPORTATION. NEITHER RUTH ANN NOR I WERE HERE WHEN THESE WERE DESIGNED BUT THEY WERE SIMPLE. THIS IS INTENTIONAL BECAUSE IT HAS TO MEET CERTAIN FEDERAL FUNDING REQUIREMENTS. IT HAS TO CLEARLY BE A COMMUTER SERVICE, AND SO THAT IS HOW IT WAS DESIGNED. HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF IT. YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE ARE CLEAR VECTORS. IT HAS THE LOGO AND WEBSITE AND CLEARLY HAS WOODLANDS EXPRESS ON THE SIDE. ALSO WANT TO SHOW WHAT THE BACK OF THE BUSES LOOK LIKE. SO, THIS WAS IN 2024 WHEN VISIT THE WOODLANDS CAME IN WITH THESE DESIGNS. THEY WERE INSTALLED IN 2025 ABOUT $30 THOUSAND FOR DESIGN AND INSTILLATION. THESE HAVE A LIFESPAN UP TO 5 YEARS, SO THESE CURRENTLY ON THE EXISTING 14 BUSES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, THEY STILL HAVE EXISTING LIFESPAN AND ON THE NEW BUSES IF YOU DO-WHETHER YOU DECIDE ON NEW DESIGN OR TO KEEP THE EXISTING DESIGN, WE HAVE THE OPTIONS TO CHANGE OUT PHOTOS, CREATE NEW CALL TO ACTIONS, THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT YOU CAN STILL KEEP THESE ON THE EXISTING BUSES IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO. KEEP THAT IN MIND TOO. THAT LIFESPAN, THE $30 THOUSAND IT IS STILL-YOU CAN KEEP THAT ON THE BUS. HERE IS THE ENERGY CORRIDOR. SO, AGAIN, THIS WAS ACTUALLY-STARTED HAVING THE DISCUSSION IN 2024. THIS WAS INSTALLED IN 2025. SO, THIS IS A SPECIFIC SERVICE THAT THE ENERGY CORRIDOR HAS AND THEY WANTED A SPECIFIC WRAP FOR THEIR BUS, SO THIS WAS FUNDED 50/50. THEY FUNDED 50 PERCENT OF INSTILLATION AND TRANSPORTATION FUNDED 50 PERCENT OF THE INSTILLATION BUT THEY DID DESIGN. WE WORKED WITH THEM ON THE DESIGN. TRANSPORTATION AND COMMUNICATION. THE IDEA WAS WE WANTED TO CREATE SOMETHING THAT FLOWED FROM THE WOODLANDS INTO THE CITY. THAT'S KIND OF THE IDEA THAT WE GAVE THEM AND AFTER COMMUNICATION THIS WAS THE DESIGN THEY CAME UP WITH. WE HAVE BEEN USING THE TAG LINE, STRESS LESS, COMMUTE EXPRESS. YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING THIS OUT THERE. HGAC HAS BEEN PUTTING THIS OUT THERE. WE WANT SOMETHING EASY TO REMEMBER. RHYMING TENDS TO STAY IN PEOPLES HEADS SO WHY WE HAVE BEEN USING THAT TAG LINE IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS. SO, HERE IS ANOTHER VIEW OF IT:ALRIGHT. THIS IS OUR IDEA. THIS IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO PRESENT TO YOU TONIGHT. WE LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS FLOW FROM THE WOODLANDS AND TO THE CITY. WE WERE LISTENING TO EVERYTHING SAID AT THE LAST MEETING. WE WERE LISTENING TO HOW CAN WE CONTINUE THIS FLOW, HOW CAN WE CONTINUE OUR BRAND, HOW CAN WE [00:50:03] MAKE OUR BUS MEMORABLE? WE REALLY LIKE THE ENERGY CORRIDOR. ONE THING WE WANT TO AVOID IS HAVING ONE BUS THAT LOOKS VERY DIFFERENT FROM ALL THE OTHER BUSES. WE DON'T WANT SOMETHING THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SO WE DID REACH OUT TO THE ENERGY CORRIDOR AND SAID, IF WE WANTED TO USE THIS BUS AS A TEMPLATE CAN WE DO THAT AND THEY SAID, ABSOLUTELY. BUT WE DON'T IT TO LOOK IDENTICAL. THE IDEA IS WE HAVE THE WOODLANDS AND MOVING INTO THE CITY. BUT WE ALSO KNOW YOU WANTED TO HAVE THEMED BUSES SO YOU WANTED MORE THEN ONE DESIGN. THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE ART. NATURE. WE ALSO PUT IN COMMUNITY ALSO KEEPING VISIT THE WOODLANDS ON THE BACK OF THE BUSES. SO, LET'S GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DESIGNS. FIRST WE'LL DO ART. WE'LL USE THE DREAMER AND SERPENT. SO, THIS IS OUR IDEA. THE IDEA IS THAT WE HAVE OUR NATURAL FOREST. WE HAVE OUR HOUSES. WE ARE USING THE DREAMER. WE ARE USING THE SERPENT. WE CHANGED THE COLORS. SO THEY ARE NOT SO ORANGE. THEY ARE MORE OF THE BRANDED COLORS. THEY ARE MORE OF LOGO COLORS. WE IDENTIFY THE SERVICES. WE IDENTIFY THAT WE ARE DOWNTOWN MEDICAL CENTER, GREENWAY PLAZA. THE ENERGY CORRIDOR HAS ITS OWN SERVICE AND THEN OF COURSE WE PUT WOODLANDS TRANSIT ON THE BUS. >> I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT! BUT I'M NOT THE MARKETING GURU. >> THIS IS OUR NATURE. THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR [INAUDIBLE] WE HAVE OUR EAGLE. WE HAVE SQUIRRELS AND DUCK. AGAIN, SAME THEME. THIS IS SPORTS SO MOVED AWAY FROM THE WATER AND GONE TO A PATHWAY NOW. WE HAVE TENNIS AND SOCCER AND RUNNING. WE HAVE BICYCLE. AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND THESE ARE NOT FINAL DESIGNS. THESE ARE JUST SHOWING EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE ARE CAPABLE OF DOING. AND THEN WE HAVE OUR COMMUNITY. THE PAVILION, TROLLEY, SOMEONE WALKING AN ANIMAL. A PET. I ALSO WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW WE COULD ACTUALLY TIE THE BACK INTO THIS. SO, ON THE ART BUS, WE CAN HAVE OUR ART THEME AND HAVE CELEBRATE ART IN THE WOODLANDS. AND HAVE MURALS, OR ART BENCHES. PEOPLE WALKING AROUND ART. YOU CAN HAVE NATURE. AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT SOMETHING THAT VISIT THE WOODLANDS, THESE ARE JUST EXAMPLES. VISIT THE WOODLANDS WOULD BE THE ONES TO COME UP WITH THESE, BUT DISCOVER NATURE IN THE WOODLANDS. AND THESE ARE ACTUAL-OUR BALD EAGLES. THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY PHOTOS. WALKING IN THE GEORGE MITCHELL NATURE PRESERVE. CHANGING THE CALL TO ACTION DEPENDING ON WHICH BUS YOU ARE ON. ENJOY RACE DAY IN THE WOODLANDS. YOUR SPORTS THEME. IRON MAN. ANY OF OUR RACES WE HAVE SO MANY RACES. COMMUNITY THEME. DOES ANYBODY RECOGNIZE ANYBODY ON THIS BUS? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> FEEL THE BEAT IN THE WOODLANDS. JUST GOING TO GO BACK THROUGH THESE A LITTLE BIT. THE BACK OF THE BUS STILL BECOMES THAT BILLBOARD. WITH THESE, THESE ARE VECTOR IMAGES, THEY ARE EASIER TO MAINTAIN. THEY ARE EASIER TO CLEAN UP. MORE SO THEN AN ACTUAL IMAGE OR PHOTOGRAPH. WHEN YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE OF THESE-THAT'S WHY THE MAJORITY OF BUSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE VECTORS VERSUS DOING A ENTIRE WRAP. THAT WAS KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS ALSO BEHIND THAT. BUT THE BIGGEST THING IS, WE DIDN'T WANT THIS BUS THE ENERGY CORRIDOR BUS TO BE FRAGMENTED FROM THE REST OF THE FLEET. SO, THAT WAS KIND OUR THOUGHT BEHIND THAT. >> I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THE HUNT, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO DIFFER TO OUR AS I SAID, THE LEADERSHIP WITH MARKETING, BUT [00:55:01] I WANT TO THROW THIS OUT BEFORE I FORGET, WHICH IS, ON YOUR COMMUNITY BUS, IF WE ARE SO BLESSED TO WIN THE APPLICATION FOR THE BORING COMPANY AND WE GET UNDERGROUND TUNNELS MAKE SURE WE HAVE A PLACE ON YOUR BUSES THAT SHOWCASE THAT. >> SO, MY THOUGHTS WERE-I THOUGHT WE WERE ADVERTISING THE COMMUTE ITSELF WITH STRESS LESS COMMUTE EXPRESS. BUT THEN ONCE YOU SHOW THE BACK PANELS AND THE CALL TO ACTION TO THE WOODLANDS, I THINK IT IS GREAT. I THINK IT IS REALLY REALLY A GOOD WAY TO ADVERTISE THE WOODLANDS AND THE COMMUTE FOR SURE. >> I THINK MY THOUGHTS ARE, BACK OF THE BUS, IT BACK OF DESIGN FOR VISIT THE WOODLANDS IS VISIT THE WOODLANDS. I THINKS THAT IS THEIR CAMPAIGN THAT THEY HAVE. THEIR BRAND. SEPARATED ALL THE BRANDS FOR A REASON. BUT, I DONT WANT TO-SOME THINGS MIGHT NOT GENERATE TOURISM. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE UNDERSTANDING OF THE BACKS, WE HAVE WOODLANDS. I FEEL IT IS A LITTLE TOO CARTOONY. I DON'T THINK WE ARE A CAR TUNE COMMUNITY. I THINK THE BUSES LOOK LIKE A CARTUNE. WHAT IS BEAUTIFUL ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY IS THE REAL LIFE PICTURES WE HAVE. WE DID A BOOK FROM THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF INCREEDABLE PHOTOGRAPHY AND HIGHLIGHTING THINGS THAT GO IN. I APPRECIATE THE MONUMENTS AND STUFF BUT THEY FADE AWAY. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO NOTICE A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, SO I THINK IF YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THE--WHAT IS THE STATUE? THE DREAMER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT EXPRESSION WHEN YOU SEE THE DREAMER LIVE 3D COLOR VERSUS A CARTOON OF THE DREAMER. I THINK--I WASN'T EXPECTING THIS TONIGHT SO WASN'T SURE WHAT THE SCENARIO WAS. >> CAN WE GO BACK TO THE BUDGET IS WHAT I WANT TO LOOK AT? THE THREE OPTIONS. DO NOTHING. DO IN-HOUSE. >> I DO WANT TO SAY, IF THE IDEA IS YOU WANT TO-WANT THE GRAPHIC DESIGNER TO DOMESTIC BACK WITH THOSE, WE CAN DO THAT TOO. >> I'M CURIOUS ON THIS IS, OPTION B, IN-HOUSE, IS IT BECAUSE WE ARE IN-HOUSE AND NARROW THE COST. WHEN I SEE THE GAP OF 53-77.50 A BIT OF A SWING. OPTION C, IT IS $7 THOUSAND SWING. THAT IS WHY I'M LIKE LET'S TIGHTEN UP THE GAP AND SO I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT. >> SO, THE OPTION B, BECAUSE WE USE IN-HOUSE STAFF THERE IS NO DESIGN COST WITH THAT. OPTION C, WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FROM DESIGN FIRMS. BRING IN THE PROPOSALS, CONSIDER THEM, CHOOSE A FIRM AND THEN PAY THAT FIRM FOR THE DESIGN. >> WHEN IT IS DOWN TO $5 THOUSAND. THERE IS A ASPETH TO THIS THAT SAYS IT COULD BE LESS. MAYBE THAT WAS IN THERE. >> THE $5 THOUSAND TO $12 THOUSAND THAT DEPENDS ON HOW MANY DESIGNS. IF YOU WANT ONE DESIGN, PROBABLY $5 THOUSAND. IF YOU WANT UP TO-COULD BE UP- >> $5 THOUSAND, IS THAT THE COST OF THE WRAP? >> THE COST OF THE DESIGN FOR THE WRAP. >> SO THE COST 53.50 IS THAT THE COST OF THE WRAP? >> THE 53.50 TO 77.50 ON OPTION B IS INSTILLATION OF THE WRAP. >> I FEEL WE ARE NOT APPLE TO APPLE. >> THE DESIGN COST IS ESTIMATED $5 THOUSAND, SO COULD BE $10 THOUSAND PER BUS FOR OPTION C. >> OPTION C AND LOW SIDE DESIGN PLUS- >> DEPENDS ON THE NUMBER OF DESIGNS YOU CHOOSE TO HAVE THE DESIGNER CREATE, BECAUSE THAT CAN BRING THE COST QUITE UP IF YOU ASK FOR ONE VERSUS FOUR AND IT IS ALSO INSTILLATION COST OF THE WRAP CHANGES. WHETHER ALL THE DESIGNS COVERED THE WINDOWS IS MORE COSTLY THEN IF YOU STUCK WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN OR ONE THAT DOES NOT COVER THE WINDOWS IT IS MUCH CHEAPER. >> BUT YOU HAVE A DESIGN--YOU HAVE A INSTILLATION COST REGARDLESS OF DESIGN? ARE WE DOING THE FULL WINDOW OR DOING THE OLD DESIGN? [01:00:02] THERE ARE TWO NUMBERS. >> YOU PAY FOR INSTILLATION REGARDLESS. >> RIGHT. AND IT IS PROBABLY ONE OF TWO, RIGHT? EITHER WE DO THE SAME THING WE HAVE OR DO THE WINDOW COVER, IS THAT-- >> IF WE DO A NON WINDOW DESIGN, IT IS ON THE LOWER END CLOSER TO $5 THOUSAND, BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THE CURRENT BUSES ARE AND HOW WE GOT THE COST ESTIMATE. IF WE COVER THE WINDOWS IS WHAT WE SPENT ON THE ENERGY CORRIDOR SO HOW WE GOT THE ESTIMATES. >> THERE IS A COST FOR APPLYING THE AND PRINTING THE WRAP, RIGHT? AND THEN BELOW THAT WE HAVE A SEPARATE DESIGN COST AND SO, YOU ARE SAYING THAT THE ESTIMATE IS THIRD PARTY WOULD CHARGE BETWEEN $5-12 THOUSAND PER BUS TO GIVE- >> PER DESIGN. >> I DON'T KNOW IF THAT IS TRUE. >> IF IT IS WE ARE-- >> FOR THE BACK OF THE BUS VISIT THE WOODLANDS DESIGN, THEY WERE JUST OVER $5 THOUSAND PER DESIGN FOR THE BACK OF THE BUS DESIGN. >> SO $5 THOUSAND TO $12 THOUSAND PER BUS WOULD BE-IF WE DESIGN HOW MANY BUSES? >> SO, WE DESIGNED 4 DESIGNS. SO, IF WE WERE TO MAYBE COME- >> HIRE SOMEONE ELSE TO DO 4 DESIGNS. YOU ARE SAYING THAT COULD BE DESIGN WOULD BE 5 TO $12 THOUSAND >> BUT SAY YOU DO AT THE LOWER END, $5 TO $12 THOUSAND >> BUT SAY YOU DO AT THE LOWER END, IT COULD BE ABOUT 20THOUSAND. >> FOR? >> FOUR DESIGNS. >> PER BUS. >> NO, NOT PER BUS. PER BUS DESIGN. >> IT SAYS HERE IS $5 THOUSAND TO $12 THOUSAND PER BUS DESIGN, RIGHT? >> SO, IF YOU ARE LOOKING AT THERE 90-158, THAT IS INCLUSIVE OF 75-110 FOR BUS WRAP INSTILLATION, PLUS THE ADDITIONAL DESIGN COSTS. THE DELTA BETWEEN THE 75 AND 90 AND THE DESIGN COST FOR THE WRAPS. IF YOU ARE USING A AGENCY. >> WE DON'T-- IT IS ESTIMATES. >> WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS WE ARE PAYING $12 THOUSAND PER DESIGN PER BUS AND THAT WOULD BE INSANE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT IS CLEAR. >> IT SOUND LIKE WE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS WITH THE VISIT THE WOODLANDS SIGNS ON THE BACK OF THE BUS. CORRECT? WE HAVE DATA TO SHOW THAT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. I'M PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT. WHAT I HEAR THAT IS REALLY SUCCESSFUL, SO MY VIEW ON THIS IS, THE CURRENT BUSES THAT ARE JUST WOODLANDS LOGO ON THEM DO NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THE ENERGY CORRIDOR BUSES. THE TAG LINE STRESS LESS COMMUTE EXPRESS IS FANTASTIC AND SEE WANTING TO KEEP THE CONSISTENCY WITH THAT WITH ALL THE BUSES. THOSE HAVE THE WINDOWS COVERED ON THE ENERGY CORRIDOR BUSES SO ASSUME WE PROBABLY WANT TO STAY CONSISTENT WITH THE OTHER BUSES SO PROBABLY LOOKING AT THE HIGHER PRICE ON THESE. AND WE JUST HAVE TO DECIDE THE-IS THE COST OF MARKETING WORTH WHAT WE GET FOR IT AND I THINK THE ANSWER IS YES. WE EXPERIMENTED WITH THE BACK OF THE BUS. >> SO, HERE IS SOME OPTIONS IF YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER SOME MOTIONS TO CONSIDER. IF YOU WANT TO KEEP THE CURRENT DESIGN AND NOT SPEND ANY MONEY, IF YOU LIKE TO HAVE A NEW DESIGN FOR THE FLEET, WE WOULD INSTALL ON THE 14 EXISTING FLEET AS DISCUSSED AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THAT IS THE HIGHER END COST, $110 THOUSAND. IF YOU LIKE TO HAVE A NEW DESIGN AND NOT-LIKE TO OUT-SOURCE THE DESIGN, THE HIGHER END COST AND AGAIN WE MIGHT NOT SPEND THAT MUCH, BUT $158 THOUSAND. THERE WAS THE IDEA FOR A TASK FORCE, SO- >> MY TASK FORCE WAS NOT A WOODLAND EXPRESS DESIGN TASK FORCE. I WAS LOOKING FOR A MARKETING COMMUNICATION TASK FORCE AS A WHOLE AND THIS WOULD BE HOUSED INSIDE THAT. >> BUT TO BE CLEAR, WE THINK IT IS PROBABLY HIGHER END, $48 THOUSAND TO HAVE AN OUTSIDE FIRM CREATE 4 DESIGNS? >> AT HIGHER END, YES. >> BUT THAT DOESN'T ALSO INCLUDE THE TIME VARIABLE, RIGHT? FOR GOING OUT TO CONTRACTED SERVICE REQUIRES TIME TO ISSUE RFP, TO REVIEW THEM, RIGHT? [01:05:03] >> YES, THAT IS CONSIDERATION. YOU NEED TO GO FOR A RFP FOR DESIGN SERVICES AND THEN WE WOULD GO FOR RFP FOR THE BUS WRAP INSTILLATION SERVICES. >> I THINK WE CAN ALL AGREE THAT DESIGN NEEDS REFRESH. I THINK THAT STRIKES OPTION 1. I AGREE WE HAVE GOTTEN GOOD REVIEWS ON THE ENERGY CORRIDOR BUS DESIGN THAT LOOKS GREAT. I LIKE THE DESIGNS THAT YOU ALL PUT TOGETHER. IT SHOWS--I BELIEVE WE GOT GREAT TALENT IN-HOUSE THAT CAN COME UP WITH SOME REALLY GOOD OPTIONS AND DESIGNS AND YEAH, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUSH THIS OUT ANY FURTHER. BECAUSE WE POTENTIALLY ARE GETTING THOSE BUSES THIS YEAR, SO I LIKE TO SEE THEM WRAPPED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARDS OPTION 2. >> I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO I THINK THE SUCCESS OF THE AD ON THE REAR OF THE BUS IS VERY GOOD AND THINK IT OUGHT TO BE DESIGNED IN THAT SPIRIT TO PROMOTE-- >> VISIT THE WOODLANDS. >> THAT IS A SEPARATE- >> RIGHT. >> SEPARATE POSITION QUITE FRANKLY. >> ASK A QUESTION. WAS THE GOAL IN BY THE MARKETING OR DESIGN TEAM, WAS IT ON THE FOUR PILLARS IF YOU WANT TO CALL THEM THAT. WAS IT TO EXPLAIN TO THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE WOODLANDS WHAT OUR-WHAT WE ARE ABOUT OR WAS IT MORE TO BRING PEOPLE OUT HERE FOR EVENTS? BECAUSE I THINK YOU EXPLAINED WELL WHAT WE ARE ABOUT IN MANY WAYS, BUT IT WASN'T FOCUSED PARTICULARLY ON EVENTS OR LIKE AMENITIES. >> SO, OUR GOAL WAS TO KEEP A CONSISTENT FLEET USING THE ENERGY CORRIDOR AS OUR PRIMARY TEMPLATE. USING THE FEEDBACK WE RECEIVED IN THE JANUARY BOARD MEETING AND THE THEMES THAT YOU ALL GAVE, ART, NATURE, SPORTS, AND COMMUNITY AND SO, IT WASN'T NECESSARILY TO PROMOTE A SPECIFIC EVENT. VISIT THE WOODLANDS WOULD LIKE TO USE THE BACK OF THE BUSES TO PROMOTE SPECIFIC EVENTS THEY COULD CHOOSE TO DO THAT. >> I CAN SEE THE VALUE OF BOTH. >> I SAY LET US NOT FORGET, WE OUTSOURCE EVERYTHING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE DON'T HAVE ENGINEER ON STAFF. WE OUTSOURCE IT AND DON'T HAVE TO DO A R FP. WE OUT SRS EVERYTHING. I DON'T THINK OUTSOURCING IS BAD BECAUSE WHAT YOU WILL SEE IS WE NEED ANOTHER GRAPHIC DESIGNER AND THEY ARE DOING A LOT OF WORK BUT YOU WILL SEE MORE AND MORE STAFF ADDED AND HAVE TO PAY MORE RETIREMENT AND MORE PERCENTAGE. OUTSOURCING IS WHAT WE DO. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK AND WHY CONROAND [INAUDIBLE] DON'T HAVE MONEY IN THE BANK. IT IS A GOOD WAY TO OUTSOURCE. WE DO IT ALL THE TIME. SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW IN THIS TIME IT IS LIKE YOU ARE HAVING TO JUMP OVER AS MASSIVE HURDLE. I THINK THERE IS AGENDA ITEM D THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED AT. RUN A CON TEST ACROSS THE COMMUNITY AND GET THE COMMUNITY TO LOOK HOW WE DO THIS. I THINK THERE ARE WAYS WE CAN DO THIS AND BE CREATIVE. I FEEL THAT'S A CARTOONISH CHARACTER OF OUR COMMUNITY THAT DON'T THINK WILL BE CAPTURING PEOPLE WHEN THEY DRIVE DOWN THE ROAD. >> THAT ISN'T THE FINAL DESIGN BY THE WAY. RIGHT? >> THOSE ARE EXAMPLES. >> CORRECT. WE CAN BRING BACK ADDITIONAL DESIGNS. >> THE FOLKS THAT PRINT IT, DO WE USE THE SAME PEOPLE ALL THE TIME? IS THAT PART OF THE BUS AGREEMENT? >> WE ACTUALLY NOT GONE RFP DIRECTLY FOR BUS INSTILLATION WRAPS. THE ORIGINAL BUS FLEET WAS DELIVERED ALREADY WRAPPED BY MCI AND CONTRACT OPERATOR FIRST CLASS TRANSPORTATION MAINTAINS THOSE FOR US SO THEY SUBCONTRACT DIRECTLY- >> HAVE WE ASKED IF THEY ARE LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO WRAP ALL OUR BUSES, CAN YOU GIVE US A DESIGN--THERE MIGHT BE DESIGN FLEXIBILITY FROM A NEGOTIATION STANDPOINT OF SAYING, IF I WERE DOING IT WITH MY VEHICLES I WOULD ASK THEM TO PULL DESIGN TEAM. $40 THOUSAND THERE IS NO WAY THAT IS HOW MUCH IT IS. I SAY MAYBE $10. THAT WOULD BE A PREMIUM TO GET DESIGNS I THINK. ESPECIALLY WITH AI AND WE HAVE IMAGES AND SO MUCH STUFF WE CAN PROVIDE FOR THEM. [01:10:02] >> WE HAVE A LOOK AND FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO STAY WITH. TO THROW NUMBERS OUT GETS A BIT SCARY. >> BRAD, WHAT WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT? >> I WAS ASKING FOR A MARKETING COMMUNICATION TASK FORCE. THIS WOULD BE PART OF THEIR DEAL. THERE IS A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WE NEED TO ADDRESS. WE TALKED ABOUT A PODCAST AND BEING IN FRONT OF THINGS AND PRESS RELEASES WE NEED TO GET IN FRONT OF AND I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE ON THIS BOARD AND LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY THAT COULD HELP BRING TOOLS AND ASSETS TO THE TABLE THAT I THINK IS WORTH EXPLORING. >> IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THATD WE HAVE TO DO IT A S A P BECAUSE THESE THINGS NEED TO BE WRAPPED AND OUT. I LIKE THE IDEA. >> I THINK THAT IS NICE IDEA. >> JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT IS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF THIS ITEM SOEWE HAVE TO BRING IT BACK AND HAVE A ASSIGNMENT OF WHATEVER THE TASKS WOULD BE. >> I THINK THAT IS A EXCELLENT SUGGESTION. >> MY CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER IS THE BUSES ARE DELIVERED IN SEPTEMBER IS THE PROJECTION SO KEEP THAT IN MIND. >> GOOD. >> WHAT IS THE TYPICAL TIMELINE FOR HAVING WRAPS GENERATED AND INSTALLED? >> I SAY TAKES ABOUT 2 MONTHS. >> SO WE WOULD BE WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME IF WE HAD THE ITEM NEXT MONTH. >> IT WILL BE CLOSE. THAT IS ALL I CAN SAY. I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT RIGHT NOW. >> THE RFP PROCESS HAS A SET AMOUNT OF TIME YOU HAVE TO HAVE OPEN TO BID, TAKE THE PROPOSALS, COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL SO THERE IS A FEW MONTHS. >> WHAT IS THAT AMOUNT OF TIME? >> IT COULD BE FROM 30 TO 60 DAYS. DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS. WE CAN OUTSOURCE TO WHAT THE CHAIRMAN WAS SAYING. WE OUTSOURCE BUT CAN'T WITHOUT GOING THROUGH A RFP PROCESS. EVERYTHING WE DO TO MEET GOVERNMENTAL REQUIREMENTS PURCHASE, PROCUREMENT CODES HAS TO BE BID. >> HOW DO WE DO THAT WITH [INAUDIBLE] WE HIRE THEM FOR EVERY ENGINEERING CONTRACT WE HAVE. >> THAT IS BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH A RFP PROCESS AND THE BOARD APPROVED AS THE ENGINEER AND EVERY 3 YEARS WE COME BACK AND GO THROUGH ANOTHER RFP PROCESS. WE WOULD BE IN VIOLATION OF PROCUREMENT LAWS. >> I WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO THE 60-I THINK YOU SAID 30-60 DAYS FOR THE RFP. THE WRAP DESIGN IS NOT FEDERAL MONEY SO I AM NOT-SURE THAT IS SHORTER AND JUST TO FOLLOW THE TOWNSHIP PROCESS BUT FOR THE WRAP INSTILLATION BECAUSE WE ARE USING FEDERAL FUNDS TO DO THAT, IT TAKES A LITTLE LONGER TO GET THROUGH THE RFP PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT. >> I'M ALL FOR OUTSOURCING WHERE WE CAN, BUT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND MOST IMPORTANTLY IT IS CHEAPER. SO, I AM LEANING TOWARDS IN-HOUSE DESIGN, GET IT DONE, WE HAVE TALENT CHEAPER AND DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH RFP PROCESS AND DEAL WITH THE FEDS. >> TO CLARIFY, ARE YOU PLANNING OR GOING TO COME BACK WITH A EXPANSION OF YOUR DEPARTMENT, YOUR DESIGN DEPARTMENT? ISTHAT SOMETHING WE NEED TO KNOW? >> NO, MA'AM. >> OKAY. >> NOT YET. BUDGET TIME. >> TO BE CLEAR, NO, WE HAVE NO INTENTION BRINGING IT BACK IN 2027 NOR INDICATED IN THE 5 YEAR PLAN, SO LET'S--I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. >> THE 5 YEAR PLAN WAS NOT DONE WITH THIS IN MIND. JUST SAYING WE ARE ADDING THINGS TO THE BOOK OF BUSINESS, WHICH IS FAIR TO THEIR DEPARTMENT, BUT NO 5 YEAR PLAN INCLUDED BUS WRAP DESIGN, PROGRAM MANAGEMENT ALL THAT STUFF THAT IS GOING INTO THIS, CORRECT? >> JUST SAYING THERE IS NO PLAN TO ADD STAFF, SO I LIKE TO TAKE THAT OUT OF EQUATION. THAT ISN'T THE PLAN. WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF TAKING ON ADDITIONAL PROGRAMS AND RESPONSIBILITIES IN-HOUSE. >> SO, WHAT DO WE WANT TO DO? >> I'LL MOTION TO PROPOSE NEW DESIGN FOR WOODLANDS EXPRESS IN-HOUSE ON 14 [INAUDIBLE] NOT TO EXCEED $110 THOUSAND. >> SECOND. >> $110 THOUSAND. OKAY. ANY DISCUSSION? >> THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IS, I KNOW IT ISN'T ON THE AGENDA, I AM HAPPY TO VOLUNTEER [01:15:02] TO HELP YOU. >> I THINK HELP FROM THE OUTSIDE IS ALWAYS A GOOD THING. BUT--YEAH. >> THE DESIGN ISN'T A FEDERAL-THAT DOESN'T FALL UNDER A TYPICAL RFP. WE HAVE MARKETING COMPANY-JUST TO SAY, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU WANT-ISN'T THAT AN E-MAIL? MAYBE IT IS NOT? >> NO, SIR THAT IS PROCUREMENT PROCESS WE HAVE TO ISSUE A RFP IN ORDER TO HIRE DESIGN SERVICE. THE ONLY THAT HAS DESIGN SERVICE UNDER CONTRACT IS VISIT THE WOODLANDS. BECAUSE THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP CONTRACTS WITH VISIT THE WOODLANDS AS OUR OFFICIAL MARKETING ARM. SO, VISIT THE WOODLAND IS THE ONE THAT PROVIDES MARKETING FOR THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. >> IF WE WANTED VISIT THE WOODLANDS UNDER THE BUS TO FIND QUICK TURN AROUND TIME ESTIMATE ON A QUOTE-- -I WANT TO NARROW DOWN $48 THOUSAND. >> I'M CONFUSED. WHO DID THE BACK OF THE BUSES BEFORE TWO YEARS AGO? >> THE VISIT THE WOODLANDS? VISIT THE WOODLANDS CONTRACTOR DID? >> WHO WAS THAT? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> ARE THEY NOT A OPTION WE CAN USE THEM AGAIN? THAT WAS REAL QUICK AND DONE WITHIN MONTHS. >> DIRECTOR NELSON, THAT WAS DESIGN DONE BY ADSETRA. THEY ARE UNDER AGREEMENT WITH VISIT THE WOODLANDS. WE COMPETITIVELY BID THE CONTRACT THREE YEARS AGO AND 8 COMPANIES AND THEY WERE THE SELECTED COMPANY SO WENT THROUGH THE PUBLIC PROCESS. THEY ARE THE OFFICIAL DESIGN AGENCY OF VISIT THE WOOD LNTDS. LANDS. THEY GIVE 3 OR 4 RENDERS. THE PROJECT WAS AROUND 28 OR $30 THOUSAND INCLUDING THE INSTILLATION SO ALL IN FOR BUSES IN FLEET. 25 BUSES AT THE TIME. >> 25 OF THOSE-YOU SAID HOW MUCH APPROXIMATELY? >> THE TOTAL BUDGET WAS $28-30 THOUSAND. INSTILLATION- >> NOT $1500 A A BUS. THAT WAS DESIGN I WRAPPED A DOZEN VEHICLES. IF I WANT A DESIGN THE COMPANY PUTS THE DESIGN TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY WANT MY BUSINESS ON THE WRAP. >> THAT IS CORRECT. >> AGAIN, MAYBE IN-HOUSE COMES UP WITH A BETTER OPTION BUT HAVING THE OUTSIDE PERSON PROPOSE WHAT THAT WOULD BE-- >> I JUST WONDERING IF THAT ADSETRAAN OPTION FOR THIS? CONFUSED WHY THAT ISN'T OUR AGENCY WE ARE LOOKING WHEN THEY WRAPPED THE BUSES TWO YEARS AGO AT A PRETTY REASONABLE PRICE. >> THAT WOULD BE DETERMINATION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE BY ALL OF YOU. >> THAT WASN'T PRESENTED TO US. WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT WASN'T PRESENTED TO US. >> IF YOU DON'T MIND, TRY TO CLARIFY THIS. AS MONIQUE SAID, THE WOODLAND TOWNSHIP HAS A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH VISIT THE WOODLANDS. THEY ARE THE EXCLUSIVE MARKETING FOR VISITORS AND CONVENTION. THEY HIRED ADSETRA. THE ONLY WAY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT WOULD BE IF THE TOWNSHIP THROUGH THEIR CONTRACT TOLD VISIT THE WOODLANDS YOU ARE GOING DESIGN THESE BUSES. THE ISSUE WE GOT IS THESE ARE FEDERAL TRANSIT DOLLARS SO WE HAVE THE A WAY THROUGH VISIT THE WOODLANDS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. ADSETERA ISN'T A CONTRACTOR FOR THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. THERE IS BUDGET AND SERVICE AGREEMENTS. YOU HAVE TO ASK VISIT THE WOODLANDS AND THEIR BOARD TO GO OUT AND GET THAT DONE AND IF THEY WANT TODAY DO IT FOR FREE THAT IS ONE THING, BUT I DOUBT IF THEY DO THAT FOR FREER. THAT IS IS THE CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WE HAVE. >> CAN THE TOWNSHIP ASK OUR MARKETING AGREEMENT VISIT THE WOODLANDS SAY COULD YOU ASK THE ADSETERA FOLKS A ESTIMATE IF WE WANTED 4 LOOKS TO WRAP BUSES HOW MUCH YOU THINK IT COST TO CONTRACT TO DO THAT AND THEY COME BACK WITH A NUMBER AND WE SAY, LET'S PURSUE THAT OR IT IS $48 THOUSAND AND DON'T DO IT. OR DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO DO IT. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THAT? ROUND ABOUT. NICK HAS TO ASK THE BOARD THAT QUESTION. AND THEN THEY HAVE TO AMEND THE AGREEMENT TO DEAL WITH THAT. BECAUSE VISIT THE WOODLANDS IS 501C6 ORGANIZATION BUT FUNDED BLIE TAX DOLLARS THEY GO THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS WITH [01:20:03] REGARD TO BIDDING. WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AUTHORITIES. ANYONE CAN ASK ANYONE A QUESTION. YOU ASK ADSETERA, IS THIS SOMETHING YOU ARE INTERESTED IN DOING AND SEE WHERE IT GOES, BUT THERE ARE CONTRACTUAL AND BIDDING PROCESSES AS MENTIONED IF WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IF THERE IS EXPENDITURES MADE. >> WHY CAN'T WE USE OUR IN-HOUSE AND WE USE VISIT THE WOODLANDS AND WE USE ADSETERA, AND PUT ON A WOODLAND DESIGN TASK FORCE WITH TWO MEMBERS FROM THIS BOARD AND TALK ABOUT THE BUS WRAPS? >> THAT SOUNDS GOOD. >> CAN WE DO THAT WHEN WE USE ADSETERA BEFORE FOR THE BACK OF THE BUSES WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE NOW TO WRAP THESE BUSES? >> THAT AND STAFF CAN CORRECT IF I'M WRONG, THAT WAS A VISIT THE WOODLANDS INITIATED PROGRAM. VISIT THE WOODLANDS SAID WE WANT TO PUT THIS ON THE BACK OF THE BUS. >> IT CAME FROM HERE. BRAD MENTIONED IT FROM HERE. IT WASN'T AT THE BOARD-- >> IT WAS INITIATED VISIT THE WOODLANDS TO PUT ADVERTISEMENT ON IT BACK OF THE PBUS AND NEEDED TO ASK FOR PERMISSION TO DO THAT AND WE ALSO THEN DID PLACE INTO THE SERVICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO ORGANIZATIONS. IT IS STILL IN THE CURRENT SERVICE AGREEMENT ALONG WITH PATHWAYS WE INSERT INTO THE WOODLANDS COMMUNITY MAGAZINE. THERE IS A LIST OF DELIVERABLE'S FROM VISIT THE WOODLAND TO WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP. >> IT SOUND LIKE THE PATH IS THERE. CAN WE COME BACK AND ASK VISIT THE WOODLANDS TO ASK THEIR DESIGN COMPANY TO BID WHAT THEY WANT TO PUT THE BIDS- >> HOW DO WE COLLABORATE? I JUST SAY COLLABORATION BETWEEN IT ALL. WREE ALL MARKETING WHAT WE LOVE AND WANT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND- >> BUT WHAT IS LEGAL? >> IF YOU ARE SAYING-YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP AND VISIT THE WOODLANDS. IT IS FOR VISIT THE WOODLANS TO MARKET VISITORS AND CONVENTIONS TO THE WOODLANDS. TOTHEX TENT YOU ARE SAYING THIS WRAP PROCESS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUS HAS SOME SORT OF INITIATIVE LIKE THAT, THEN YOU CAN ASK THEM TO DO IT. WHAT I WILL IT ELYOU IS THAT IF YOU ARE GETTING INVOLVED IN FEDERAL TRANSIT DOLLARS AND THINGS WRAPPING THE BUSES YOU MIGHT GET FAR AFIELD OF WHAT THE MISSION OF VISIT THE WOODLANDS IS. THAT IS MY ONLY COMMENT. I DON'T KNOW MONIQUE. >> TO SUMMARIZE IT, IT IS THESE OPTIONS UP HERE ON THE BOARD. WE CAN CONSULT WITH VISIT THE WOODLANDS. MATTER OF FACT, VISIT THE WOODLANDS WAS CONSULTED ON THE BUS WRAPS YOU SAW, DESIGNS WE DID. NICK AND ELIZABETH PARTICIPATED. ALL OF US THOUGHT THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL DESIGNS. VISIT THE WOODLANDS STAFF IS INVOLVED IN THAT. IF WE WANT TO UTILIZE VISIT THE WODLANDS FOR THE BACK OF THE BUSES WE STILL CAN. BUT WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW WITH THE FEDERAL ASSETS AND THESE NEW BUSES IS THE BOARDS NEEDS TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT TO USE IN-HOUSE TALENT OR GO OUT ON RFP FOR A NEW DESIGN AND ADSETERA IS MORE THEN WELCOME TO RESPOND TO THE RFP BUT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS RIGHT HERE. >> MAKE A MOTION? >> I THINK WE DID. >> MOTION ON THE TABLE. >> MOTION AND SECOND. >> MOTION ON THE TABLE. >> ANY DISCUSSION? >> CAN YOU SAY WHAT THE MOTION IS AGAIN? >> NUMBER 2. >> OKAY. >> BASICALLY IN-HOUSE. IT DOESN'T MEAN DESIGN SETTLED BUT IN-HOUSE. >> CORRECT. >> YOU CAN STILL CONTINUE TO CONSULT WITH VISIT THE WOODLANDS LIKE YOU ALREADY HAVE. >> CORRECT. >> IT AVOID THE RFP PROCESS AND PROLONGING THIS. >> I SECOND. >> HAD A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? AYE. [12. Receive, consider and act upon an Amended and Restated Donation Agreement with The Woodlands Art Council (C-2014-4940A7);] MOTION CARRIES. MOVING TO ITEM 12. I WOULD LIKE MONIQUE, I DO NOT THINK MY ASK WAS PROPERLY NOTED. I WANT MARKETING AND COMMUNICATION COMMITTEE AND GOING FORWARD WOULD LIKE THESE TYPE ITEMS TO BE INCLUDED ON THE COMMITTEE CHARTER. >> TO BE CONSIDERED IN-HOUSE. >> YEAH. RECEIVE AND CONSIDER ACT UPON RESTATED DONATION AGREEMENT WITH WOODLANDS ART COUNCIL. [01:25:05] REFER TO PAGES 57-78 OF THE PACKET. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS ACTUALLY THE 7TH VERSION OF THIS AGREEMENT. WE HAD A LONG HISTORY WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL DOING ART BENCHES AS WELL AS ONE BIKE RACK. I THINK THERE ARE TOTAL OF 36 ART BENCHES AND ONE BIKE WRAP THROUGH THE TOWN CENTER AND HUGHS LANDING AND NORTH SHORE PARK AND OTHER LOCATION. WE IDENTIFIED THAT THE TROLLEY STOPS THROUGHOUT THE WATERWAY AREA, NEED TO BE REDONE. THESE ARE THE GREEN STEEL STRUCTURES WITH THE GLASS OVER HP HANG AND AS WE HAVE THINKING THROUGH THE PROJECT OF, HOW WE DO IT, WHAT COULD WE DO, RUTH ANN BROUGHT UP A IDEA HOW TO LAYER IN DIGITALLY PRINTED GLASS AND WE ALSO SAW A IDEA FOR HOW TO POTENTIALLY EXTEND THIS AGREEMENT WITH THE ARTS COUNCIL TO THE TROLLEY STOPS. SO, THIS WOULD BE GLASS AND WILL BE LAYERED BETWEEN SO IT POSES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT INTERESTING IDEAS FOR THE ARTS COUNCIL TO AGAIN, RAISE MONEY FOR THEIR PROGRAMS. THIS WOULD COST ADDITIONAL HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS HOWEVER THAT MONEY IS RAISED BY THEIR DONATIONS, THEIR SPONSORSHIPS FOR IT AND SO IF THEY GET ALL THE MONEY THAT'S GREAT, IF THEY ARE ONLY ABLE TO DO ONE OR TWO THAT IS GREAT TOO. THE COST IS PROPORTIONATE SO NO COST TO THE TOWNSHIP. THE OTHER THING IS THE FACT THAT WITH PREVIOUS PHASES ALL DESIGNS ARE SELECTED THROUGH A COMPETITION AND RUN BY THE ARTS COUNCIL FOR THE LAST 3 ROUNDS. I SAT IN ON THOSE COMPETITIONS AND JUDGES AND THERE IS A CAVEAT IN THIS AGREEMENT THAT ALSO SAYS THAT GIVE TOON THE TOWNSHIP REPRESENTATIVE CONCERN [INAUDIBLE] DETERMINATION MADE FOR THESE AMENITIES. ADDITIONALLY, WE ALSO ADDED A ANOTHER LEVEL HERE TO PROVIDE SOME GUIDANCE TO TOWNSHIP STAFF AND WE CREATED THE TOWNSHIP PUBLIC ARTS SELECTION CRITERIA TO GIVE IDEA TUESDAY MAKE SURE IT IS WITHIN THE ESTABLISHED WOODLANDS WHAT I LIKE TO ETHOS. WHAT WE ARE RECOMMENDING APPROVE THE AMENDMENT WITH THE WOODLANDS WATERWAY ARTS COUNCIL AND AUTHORIZE THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT APPROVED TO FINAL FORM BY THE TOWNSHIP LEGAL COUNSEL. >> ALRIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION? >> YES. I ASKED FOR CLEAR GUIDELINES REGARDING THE PUBLIC ART THAT WE HAVE IN THE WOODLANDS GOING FORWARD, AND I THINK THAT THIS ADDRESSES IT WELL. THERE HAS BEEN SOME THOUGHT-A LOT OF THOUGHT PUT INTO IT, BUT THERE IS STILL SOME LEGAL QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE TWEAKED HERE AND SO THAT'S WHY I APPROVE OF WHAT WAS JUST SAID AND ASK THE BOARD TO APPROVE. >> MONTHS, BECAUSE LIKE THE PREVIOUS MOTION, PREVIOUS ITEM, THEY WILL GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THAT WILL TAKE SEVERAL MONTHS. THEY HAVE TO RECRUIT THEIR DONORS. THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH DESIGN CRITERIA, SO WE ARE PROBABLY IN A MINIMUM OF 6-7 MONTHS. >> I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN TWO OF THOSE AND IT WAS ALL MOST A YEAR ACTUALLY BY THE TIME WE SUBMITTED. >> 6-7 MONTHS IS A SHORT TIME PERIOD. WE NEED TO DO THIS BUT THIS IS ANOTHER WAY TO BRING ART AND COLOR TO THE WATERWAY. >> THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL IDEA. IT HELPS THE ARTS COUNCIL AND ALSO I THINK IT WILL BRING LOCAL ARTISTS LIKE THE MURAL DID. THOSE WERE LOCAL ARTIST THAT DID THAT AND THINK IT TURNED OUT BEAUTIFULLY. THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR. PRETTY DESIGNS THAT REPRESENT THE WOODLANDS. >> MADE THE MOTION. >> SECOND. >> CALL THE MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE 2026 TO THE AMENDED RESTATED DONATION WOODLAND WATERWAY ARTS COUNCIL AND AUTHORIZE THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER TO-[INAUDIBLE] >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> MOVED BY SEKULA-GIBBS, AND SECOND BY DIRECTOR FRANKS. ALL IN FAVOR AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. ITEM 3. [13. Receive, consider and act upon Order No. 002-26, Adopting a Policy Related to Memorials, Artwork and Commemorative Donations on Township-owned Property;] OR 13. RECEIVE CONSIDER ACT UPON ORDER NUMBER 002-26 ADOPTING POLICY RELATED TO MEMORIALS ARTWORK DONATION AND TOWNSHIP OWNED [01:30:02] PROPERTY. REFER TO PAGE 79-93. CALL ON DR. [INAUDIBLE] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIRMAN BAILEY. STAFF RECEIVES REQUEST FOR ITEMS DONATED TO THE TOWNSHIP OUTSIDE THE GIFTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. YOU MAY NOT BE AWARE, BUT PEOPLE CAN DONATE TREES, BENCHES AND SUCH. THIS WOULD BE LARGER THINGS. WE GET EVERY SO OFTEN PEOPLE WANTING TO DONATE ARTWORK, SCULPTURES, MEMORIALS, THOSE TYPE THINGS. I TALKED TO PROBABLY 3 OR 4 DIFFERENT FOLKS OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND AS THAT STARTED TO PROCESS IT STARTED TO SAY TO MYSELF, WHAT IS OUR PROCESS? WHAT IS OUR POLICY? WHAT IS OUR PROCEDURE? ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT LONG-TERM IMPACTS, LONG-TERM COST MAINSH OPERATIONAL COSTS. SO, WHAT WE ATTEMPTED TO DO WAS REALLY TRY TO IDENTIFY THINGING THROUGH THE EYES OF THE DONOR BUT ALSO THINKING THROUGH THE EYES OF STAFF AND ALSO WE WORKED WITH THIS FIRE CHIEF BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTED TO DONATE SOMETHING TO THE FIRE STATION WITH THEIR BEAUTIFUL FACILITIES OF PROVIDING GUIDELINES FOR THAT. SO, WHAT WE DID IS BASICALLY CREATED A APPLICATION PROCESS, REVIEW CRITERIA, REALLY LOOKING TOWARDS COMMUNITY RELEVANCE, COMPATIBILITY, SAFETY AND COMPLIANCE WITH VARIOUS CODES. MORE IMPORTANTLY FROM A FUNDING STANDPOINT OF PUTTING THE BURDEN ON THE INDIVIDUAL WHO IS DONATING THIS MEMOR IAL OR PLAQUE. WHERE IT SAYS APPLICANTS PROVIDED FULL FUNDED FOR DESIGN CONSTRUCTION AND MAINTENANCE FOR PERIOD OF AT LEAST 10 YEARS. WHAT YOU FIND IS, IF THESE ITEMS ARE NOT BUILT TO LAST THEY WEATHER AND THEN WE ARE THE STEWARD OF THOSE AND THERE ARE UNINTENEDED COST. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ARE NOT TAKING ON THINGS MORE OF A CHALLENGE TO US. WE WOULD HAVE A REVIEW PROCESS THAT REVIEW PROCESS WOULD BE UPHELD BY MY POSITION, NOT NECESSARILY ME, BUT THE CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER AND FIRE CHIEF. IF THERE IS A APPEAL TO-DO NOT AGREE WITH THE DECISION CHIEF OR I WOULD MAKE THEY CAN APPEAL TO YOU AS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS BUT YOU HAVE THE FINAL APPROVAL AND FROM THAT. SO, WHAT WE ARE SEEKING NOW IS JUST THE BOARD TO DETERMINE ACTION. YOU CAN HANDLE THIS IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. DIFFER TO ANOTHER MONTH TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU COULD DEVELOP A MOTION TO PASS THIS. YOU CAN AGAIN WAIT TO SEE WHAT PEOPLE MAY SAY ABOUT THIS CONCEPT OUT THERE AND DELIBERATE OR APPROVE THIS OR REVIEW THIS ANOTHER DAY. REALLY, JUST TAKING THE SHOT ACROSS THE BOW TO SAY, WE PROBABLY NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE PROBABLY THINGS COMING DOWN THE PIKE. >> QUESTION. >> SURE. >> THE FIRE CHIEF WILL BE INVOLVED IN MEMORIALS OF ART DONATIONS? >> WHEN YOU HAVE MEMORIALS ON FIRE PROPERTY. >> OR FIRE CHIEF. NOT BOTH. >> NO. >> OKAY. >> NOT ON THE WATERWAY. >> THE FIRE CHIEF HAS RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS 8, 9 FACILITIES AND FROM MY STANDPOINT MY POSITION STANDPOINT IT IS THE PUBLIC PARCELS, THE PARKS, THE WATERWAY, THOSE TYPE OF THINGS. >> I THINK THIS IS VERY PROACTIVE. AT THE HOSPITAL WE WERE INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT BECAME A MEMORIAL [INAUDIBLE] >> WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED COMMENTS AND OUR GIFTS FOR COMMUNITY PROGRAM WHERE PEOPLE CALLED ME UP AND SAID HOW MANY MORE MEMORIALS CAN WE STICK IN A PARK AND REALLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE BALANCE THE PERSON'S DESIRE AND OTHER 119 THOUSAND PEOPLE. THAT'S THE LENS WE NEED TO LOOK AT THROUGH THIS POLICY. >> MAKES SENSE AND MAKES SENSE TO GET AHEAD OF IT BEFORE IT IS REAL ISSUE WHICH IT WILL. >> I THOUGHT THE ONLY MEMORIALS WE COULD OFFER NOW WERE BENCHES AND TREES? >> THOSE ARE THROUGH THE GIFTS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. GFOC PROGRAM. WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO DO MEMORIALS FOR VARIOUS FOLKS WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE MILITARY. BRANCHES OF THE MILITARY. THERE WAS ONE LAST YEAR 18 MONTHS AGO, GOLD STAR FAMILIES AND SO, IT IS LIKE OKAY, HOW MNY OF THESE CAN WE-THEY ARE ALL WORTHY. WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING THE NATURE OF THE MEMORIAL, BUT WE ALSO NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT DOES THIS OR NOT IMPACT THE USE OF A PUBLIC FACILITY. HOW DOES THIS ONE OF THE STATEMENTS IS TO THE EFFECT OF, CURRENT PLANS OR DISCUSSED PLANS-YOU ASK JOHN AND MYSELF [01:35:03] WE HAVE PLANS FOR EVERY ONE OF THE PARKS. THAT WE WANT TO DO, BUT TIMING AND ALL THAT STUFF. WE GOT TO HAVE SOME ABILITY TO-I DON'T WANT TO SAY KNOW, BUT SOME EXTENT HAVE TO SAY NO AT SOME POINT TO THESE THINGS BECAUSE YOU CAN BE OVERRUN AND SEEN IT IN VARIOUS PARKS. >> IF SOMEONE WANTS TO DONATE ART YOU HAVE A PROCESS? >> EXACTLY. ONE OF THE ARTWORKS THAT WE RECEIVED WAS ACTUALLY 3 CARDINALS IN A TREE. IT IS IN WINTWOOD PARK IN CREEKSIDE PARK AND I WORKED WITH THE OWNER WHO JUST DIDN'T WANT IT IN HIS HOUSE ANYMORE. HE IS LIKE GETTING RID OF IT. THE GREAT THING, IT IS STEEL AND METAL, SO IT IS BULLET PROOF BUT STILL NEEDS TLC AFTER IT. WHY AM I DOING THIS? THIS WAS ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO, MAYBE LONGER FROM THERE. I THINK WE ARE SETTING OURSELVES UP. AS OUR COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO EVALVE WE NEED POLICIES LIKE THIS TO GUIDE US INTO SAY WHEN WE ARE SAYING YES AND SAYING NO. >> IN THAT SITUATION DO WE ASK THEM FOR MONEY? >> WE DID ASK HIM FOR MONEY, BUT WE ARE ALSO GETTING MORE AWARE THAT THESE OVER TIME THE CARDINALS HASN'T COST MUCH MONEY BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT IS BUILT, BUT OVER TIME THERE ARE VARIOUS MEMORIALS THAT COST DOLLARS TO THE TAXPAYERS SO WE RECEIVE SOMETHING, GREAT, BUT IN 5, 10, 15 YEARS. IT IS THE LONG-TERM PLAY OF THE PURPOSE OF THE POLICY. >> IF I WANT MY ART DISPLAYED AND LIKE WE'LL DO THAT, BUT IT IS $10 THOUSAND BECAUSE WE HAVE MAINTENANCE AND THIS AND THAT AND THE TOWNSHIP-I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS REALLY FROM REVENUE OR IF IT GOES TO A SPECIFIC FUND, BUT I THINK THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. I ALSO WONDER IF THERE IS A WAY THAT THIS CAN OPEN A DOOR OF IF WE WANTED TO PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING AMAZING LIKE ART CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THIS DOOR IS NOW OPEN. >> THEORETICALLY WE TALKED ABOUT PERFORMING ART CENTER IF YOU HAVE ART DONATES THIS GIVES YOU THE PROCESS. >> YEAH. >> CHRIS, THE STAFF COMMITTEE, HOW MANY DO YOU ENVISION? >> PROBABLY 2 OR 3 FOLKS TO REALLY VET THESE THINGS OUT. >> UNANIMOUS CHOICE? >> WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN THERE. WE HAVE TO PROBABLY GO INTO THE PROCEDURES MORE AND OPERATIONALIZE THOSE EVEN MORE. BUT A LOT OF WILL BE ON THIS POSITION CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER TO WORK WITH THE PERSON TO SAY HEY, WHAT IS ACCEPTABLE AN NOT AND WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO DO. THIS IS WHAT IS GOOD AND BAD ABOUT THE LOCATIONS YOU ARE CHOOSING. IT IS LIKE WHAT WORK WITH KAT. WANT TO MAKE IT HAPPEN BUT HAVE THE STANDARDS. >> IS IT APPROPRIATE TO REVISIT OR TAKE INVENTORY OF ALL THE ART THAT WE HAVE IN THE WOODLANDS AND THEN REVISIT WHETHER IT IS STILL APPROPRIATE AND--FROM A MAINTENANCE STANDPOINT. IS IT STILL VALUABLE NOT JUST FROM THE ARTISTIC BUT MAINTENANCE. IS IT STILL VALUABLE FOR US TO KEEP IT? >> LET ME FIRST MAKE A STATEMENT. THE MAJORITY OF PUBLIC ART IS ACTUALLY NOT THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIPS. THE STUFF YOU SEE IN THE ROADWAYS AND MIDDLE MEDIANS THAT IS STILL OWNED AND ACTUALLY MAINTAINED BY HOWARD HUGHS. WE HAVE A HANDFUL OF SCULPTURES IN THE PARKS, MAINLY BRONZE SCULPTURES. I CAN THINK OF CREEKWOOD. I THINK THERE IS TWO KIDS, A BRONZE STATUE. THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE ELEMENTS. OF COURSE, WE HAVE THE ART BENCH PROGRAM THAT IS THERE TOO. >> WHAT ABOUT THE ART IN THE VILLAGE CENTERS? >> IF THEY ARE IN THE VILLAGE CENTER THAT ISN'T OURS. >> IT IS ALL BY- >> THAT IS EITHER- >> REGENCY. >> OR STILL MAY BE OWNED BY HOWARD HUGHS. >> THERE IS A LOT-- >> ABOUT 40 PLUS. NICK PROBABLY HAS THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF HIS HEAD. NICK. HOW MANY PUBLIC ART PIECES ARE THERE IN THE COMMUNITY? >> ABOUT 90. >> I WAS WAY OFF. [INAUDIBLE] >> THOSE ARE THE ONES EXPLAINING NICK WHEN YOU WERE OUT WAS THOSE ARE LARGELY OWNED BY HOWARD HUGHS. >> SO WE DO NOT MAINTAIN THOSE? >> WE DO NOT MAINTAIN THOSE. [01:40:04] AGAIN A LOT ARE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY ONE IS IN FRONT OF SHADOWMAN PARK IN THE MIDDLE MEDIAN, SOME ON 6 PINES. THEY ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE. THE DREAMER ISN'T OURS. THE SERPENT IN THE LIKE WOODLANDS ISN'T OURS. THAT WAS A MORNING OPERATIONAL DISCUSSION WITH THE PARKS TEAM. >> WHAT IS THE DEAL WITH THE SERPENT? >> HE NEEDS A LITTLE- >> WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. THAT WAS PART OF THE DISCUSSION. >> [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUE ACT UPON ORDER 002-26 RELATED TO MEMORIAL ARTWORK DONATIONS ON TOWNSHIP OWNED PROPERTY? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. >> THANK YOU. >> 14 IS MOVED TO ANOTHER TIME. [15. Receive, consider and act upon an update regarding the Village Presidents' Council;] 15, RECEIVE AND CONSIDER AND ACT UPON UPDATE REGARDING THE VILLAGE PRESIDENT COUNCIL >> WE HAD A GREAT MEETING AND HAD A GREAT PRESENTATION AUDIO VISUAL AND PROP PEOPLE UP TO DATE ON THINGS HAPPENING, HOW THEY WERE HAPPENING RECOLLECTS WHEN THEY WERE GOING TO HAPPEN AND THINGS IN THE FUTURE AND WELL ATTENDED BY ALL PRESIDENTS AND OR THEIR SECONDS, SO IT WAS A VERY GOOD MEETING, LOT OF QUESTIONS POSED. HIS STAFF HAS SINCE PRESENTED BACK ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THEY DIDN'T HAVE SO CONSIDER VERY SUCCESSFUL MEETING. >> ALRIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? >> MOTION TO ACCEPT THE REPORT. >> SECOND ECKD. . >> MOVED BY VICE CHAIRMAN HEISLER AND MOVED BY SEKULA-GIBBS. [16. Recess to Executive Session to discuss matters relating to real property pursuant to §551.072, Texas Government Code; deliberation of economic development negotiations pursuant to §551.087, Texas Government Code; discuss personnel matters pursuant to §551.074, Texas Government Code; discuss IT network or critical infrastructure security pursuant to §551.089, Texas Government Code; and to consult with The Woodlands Township’s attorney pursuant to §551.071, Texas Government Code;] DISCUSS MATTERS RELATING TO REAL PROPERTY PURSUANT TO ♪551.072, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE; DELIBERATION OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS PURSUANT TO ♪551.087, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE; DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS PURSUANT TO ♪551.074, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE; DISCUSS IT NETWORK OR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY PURSUANT TO ♪551.089, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE; AND TO CONSULT WITH THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP'S ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO ♪551.071, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE;. IT IS 742 P.M. >> BACK IN SESSION. [17. Reconvene in public session;] [18. Receive, consider and act upon proposals for a Public-Private Partnership for the design, finance, construction and operation of a short course golf complex and associated amenities on the South Gosling Tract;] ITEM 18, RECEIVE AND AND ACT UPON FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR DESIGN FINANCE CONSTRUCTION OPERATION OF SHORT COURSE GOLF COMEXAND AMENITIES ON THE SOUTH GAUSSLING TRACT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIRMAN BAILEY. I WANT TO GIVE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE BEEN USING OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS IN THIS MATTER. TO GIVE THE PUBLIC AWARENESS-THIS IS CREEK SIDE PARK GOGGLING ROAD SOUTH OF THE CREEK INTERSECTION AS GAUSSLING AND CREEKSIDE THERE IS A PARCEL OF LAND TO THE EAST, WHICH IS 208 ACRES IN IN 2003 WE RECEIVED A DONATION OF THE PROPERTY THROUGH THE CCSA AGREEMENT FROM HOWARD HUGHS SO THIS IS DONATED-TO THE SOUTH IS TOWNSHIP LIMITS. PART OF THE PARCEL POTENTIALLY HAS THE ABILITY TO BE USED WITH THE SPRING CREEK GREENWAY, THE TRAIL HARRIS COUNTY IS BUILDING THROUGH GEORGE MITCHELL PRESERVE FROM BURROUGHS PARK TO 59, 69 TO THE EAST OF THE GREATER HOUSTON AREA. A NUMBER OF THINGS ARE BEEN DONE OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW YEARS. BOARD DIRECTED STAFF TO REVIEW THE PARCEL OF PROPERTY FOR DEVELOPMENT. PHASE 1 STUDY, CULTURAL RESOURCE STUDIES, WILDLIFE, SURVEYS AND DUE DILIGENCE FOR DEVELOPMENT HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. IF THERE IS ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT THAT IS TO OCCUR, THERE WILL NEED TO BE REFRESHMENTS OF THE REPORTS WHICH ARE JUST NATURAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE TO DO. THERE IS A EXPIRATION DATE ON PHASE 1 STUDIES AND CULTURAL REPORT. TO GIVE COUPLE MORE ORIENTATION ITEMS, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE LAND USE OF THIS, THIS IS A CRAYOLA MAP. I APOLOGIZE. I WON'T ASK FOR A PARK PLANNER IN THE BUDGET. [01:45:02] WE'LL STICK- >> LOOKING GOOD THERE, BUDDY. GET THE FIRST GRADER TAKEN CARE OF CHBLT MAKING. YOU SEE IN GREEN THE PROPOSED ACRE. THE 50 ACRES PLUS OR MINUS. THE BALANCE AREAS IS POENTIALLY USED FOR SURFACE TRAILS AND THE YELLOW COULD BE USED SOME DAY FOR ACTIVE RECREATION. WHAT THAT CONSIST OF, DON'T KNOW. BUT THAT IS PROBABLY A HIGHEST BEST USE THAT PARCEL OF LAND GIVING ACCESS TO GOSLING. WE GO THROUGH ALL THERE PROCESSES WE HAVE TO DO THROUGH A RFP PROCESS. WE HAD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME. I WAS THE POINT OF CONTACT. BREVE 5 OR 6 DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT I SPOKE TO OR HAD CORRESPONDENCE. WITH. THE PROPOSALS WERE DUE 23 JANUARY. WE HAD THREE. AT HIGH LEVEL, WE ARE LOOKING AT PARK GOLF. THEY HAVE A EXISTING GOLF COURSE THAT THEY MODELED IN AUSTIN. SYNTHETIC TURF, FULLY WALKABLE AND DOG FRIENDLY. THEY USE A SAND LOT CONCEPT TO REALLY PROVIDE RECREATIONAL AMENITIES TO ENHANCE THE STAY AND USED A OUTDOOR BAR FOOD TRUCK CONCEPT CHT ALL ARE GOOD CONCEPTS AND THEN WE LOOK AT EARLY BIRD. THEY HAVE THE EAST RIVER 9 COURSE NOW. THEY LEVERAGE GOLF AND RECREATION AMENITIES VERY VERY WELL ACTUALLY. PICKLEBALL, SITE AMENITIES TO ENHANCE THE STAY. THEY DO NOT HAVE CART PASS AND OPERATIONAL CONSIDERATION FOR NOT HAVING CART PASS. ONE IS SHORT COURSE, BUT TWO, ADDING GOLF CARTS INCREASES OPERATIONAL COST BECAUSE OF COMPACTION OF GRASS. THEY HAVE A DOUBLE SIDED DRIVING RANGE WHICH IS NICE FROM REVENUE STANDPOINT. THE RESTAURANT IS IDENTIFIED TO BE CONTRACTED OUT AND LIKELY BE WITH A GROUP THAT REPRESENT FREE RANGE WHICH IS THE COMPANY RANGE THAT REPRESENT THE RUSTIC SO NICE ABILITY TO COME TO THE COURSE AND MAY NOT GOLF. JUST GO FOR FOOD AND BEVERAGE OPPORTUNITIES. THE THIRD GROUP IS AMERICAN GOLF. THEY APPEAR TO BE A MANAGEMENT GROUP. WELL QUALIFIED BUT RUNNING THE SYSTEM COURSES IN NEW YORK CITY AND LOS ANGELES. THEY RUN MANY MANY COURSES FROM A MANAGEMENT COMPANY NOT NECESSARILY PUTTING EXTENSIVE DOLLARS FOR THE CAPITAL. THEY DIDN'T SUBMIT A CAPITAL DESIGN. A INTERESTS ASPECT IS INDICATED A 60 BASE STEEL STRUCTURE AND FOOD AND BEVERAGE HOUSE. WITH THOSE IDEAS ON THE PROS AND CONS IDENTIFIED, WHAT WE ARE SEEKING FROM THE BOARD IS AUTHORIZE THE PRESIDENT AND CEO TO NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OUTLINED IN THE RFP FOR SHORT COURSE GOLF COMPLEX AND NEGOTIATE WITH THOSE AMENITIES FOR THE TRACT WITH EARLY BIRD AND RETURN TO THE BOARD WITH FINAL AGRUMPT. AGREEMENT. IF NEGOTIATION IZFAIL WE AUTHORIZED TO TALK TO PARK GOLF UNTIL A CONTRACT CAN BE REACHED. >> OKAY. DISCUSSION? I'LL KICK OFF. THIS WAS A THOROUGH PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH. WE HAD THREE BOARD MEMBERS PARTICIPATE IN A AD HOC COMMITTEE. THAT WOULD BE DIRECTOR NELSON, VICE CHAIR HEISLER AND MYSELF. WE HAD THREE MEMBERS FROM THE PUBLIC FORMER BOARD MEMBER CAL WATSON, WILL MURPHY AND SCOTT LISLE. WE INTERVIEWED AN ASSORTMENT OF PEOPLE AND DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS. EVERYONE FROM THE HOUSTON-WHAT'S IT CALLED? SOUTH TEXAS PGA AND THEY BROUGHT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO FORM OUR RECOMMENDATION FOR A RFP. AND IT WAS A VERY THOROUGH PROCESS. I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I LIKE TO SAY IS, ONE, IT IS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BUT TWO, IN OUR TALKS ON THIS POTENTIAL 9 HOLE COURSE, WE ARE REALLY PUSHING FOR THE WOODLANDS TO BE THE WOODLANDS IN THE COURSE. GOLF COURSES WITH TREES ARE VERY VERY IMPORTANT. WE SPENT A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR, THREE YEARS IN A ROW ON PLANTING TREES. LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS CUT DOWN A BUNCH OF TREES. HAVING A SHORT COURSE WHICH IS VERY MANAGEABLE, TRYING TO SAVE EVERY TREE, YOU WILL NOT SEE THE COURSE FROM THE ROAD. THIS ROAD WILL BE TUCKED BEHIND TREES. I THINK A IMPORTANT THING IS THIS HAS LIGHTS ON IT THAT WILL BE FOR NIGHT GOLF. [01:50:05] IT OPENS UP THE NUMBER OF ROUNDS YOU CAN PLAY AND ALSO IN THE SUMMER WHEN IT IS HOT, YOU HAVE IT ABILITY TO ENJOY YOURSELF IN A NIGHT DRIVING RANGE. FULL PRACTICE FACILITY. THE MOST IMPORTANT IS IT IS PUBLIC GOLF, NOT PRIVATE GOLF. WE HAD A GENTLEMEN COME IN IN PUBLIC COMMENT AND TALK ABOUT ALL THERE DIFFERENT COURSES AROUND HERE. EVERY ONE OF THE COURSES IN THE WOODLANDS IS A PRIVATE COURSE THAT YOU HAVE TO TO PAY MINIMUM $70 THOUSAND. THERE IS PAY AS YOU GO. RESIDENTS GET A CHEAPER GREEN FEE THEN SOMEONE OUTSIDE IT COMMUNITY. THINK THAT IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BRINGING REVENUE TO OUR COMMUNITY AND PLUS PLUS US AND YEAR 5 AND 6 IT GETS REALLY GOOD SO SOMETHING I FULLY SUPPORT AND WELCOME DIALOGUE OF THE BOARD. >> I AGREE MR. CHAIRMAN. ONE THING TO EMPHASIZE IS, THE WOODLAND TOWNSHIP ISN'T GOING TO BE OPERATING A GOLF COURSE. THAT'S SOMETHING WE DONT WANT-NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF AND DON'T INTEND TO BE IN THE BUSINESS OF. WE SEE THIS AS BRINGING A TREMENDOUS AMENITY TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT JUST GOLFERS. WE SEE TREMENDOUS VALUE IN THE FOOD AND BEVERAGE ASPECT, NICE RESTAURANT FOR FAMILIES, PICKLEBALL COURTS AND WHAT NOT. THE FUTURE EXPANSION OF THE PARK AREA THAT DR. NOONS PRESENTED, SO YES, EMPHASIZE TREES AND FLOODING. TREMENDOUS DESIGN WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT IMPACTED AT ALL. ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN TAKEN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION IN THIS PROJECT. >> ONE THING ALSO FROM THE TOURISM SIDE OF IT, IT IS A GREAT THING FOR WHEN WE DO HAVE CONVENTIONS, YOU CAN PLAY ROUND OF GOLF. WE PLAYED A ROUND OF GOLF A HOUR AND 15 MINUTES, HAVE A COUPLE DRINKS AFTER THAT AND BE HOME. IT IS JUST A WHOLE NEW WAY OF HAVING FUN WITH YOUR FAMILY WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND COLLEAGUES WITH YOUR COWORKERS. IT IS REALLY EXCITING. >> WE ARE MEETING A REAL NEED IN THE COMMUNITY. >> TAKE A TROLLEY OVER THERE. >> DR. SHELLEY'S TROLLEY. I MOVE TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION. DO I HAVE TO READ THIS? >> SECOND. >> I MOTION TO AUTHORIZE THE PRESIDENT CEO TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACT FOR PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP OUTLINED DESIGN FINANCE CONSTRUCT AND OPERATE FOR SHORT COURSE GOLF COMPLEX AND AMENITIES ON THE SOUTH GOSLING TRACT WITH EARLY BOARD AND RETURN WITH FINAL AGREEMENT. IF NEGOTIATION FAIL AUTHORIZED TO NEGOTIATE WITH PARK GOLF UNTIL IF AGREEABLE CONTRACT CULD BE REACHED. >> SECOND. >> MOVED BY VICE CHAIRMAN HEISLER, SECONDED BY DIRECTOR NELSON. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. OPPOSED? 7-0. MOTION CARRIES. [19. Consideration of items to be placed on the agenda for next month's meeting;] MOVING ON TO AGENDA ITEM 19. CONSIDER ITEMS PLACED TO BE ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT MONTH'S MEETING. I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT, LAST MEETING OF COMING UP WITH RULES THAT OF ITEMS THAT THE PUBLIC CAN BRING INTO BOARD MEETINGS AND PUBLIC MEETINGS INTO THE CHAMBERS OR MEETING ROOMS SUCH AS BACKPACKS FOR SAFETY CONCERNS. THE SHERIFF DEPUTIES BROUGHT THIS UP LAST WEEK WITH A BIG HOUSE AND THINK IT IS IMPORTANT WE LOOK AT THE SAFETY BECAUSE OUR OFFICERS CAN'T TELL WHAT'S IN A BACKPACK AND DON'T WANT TO BRING METAL DETECTORS IN HERE, SO I LIKE TO PLACE THAT ON THERE AND MAYBE HAVE THE SHERIFF DEPARTMENT BRIEF US ON THE IMPORTANCE THAT. >> SECOND. >> ALRIGHT. ANYONE ELSE? >> I THINK CAN WE BRING UP-I LIKE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON THE AGENDA ABOUT THE WINDWARD COVE NORTH SHORE PARK AREA? MY PHONE HAS BEEN BLOWING UP BY NEIGHBORS-IF WE CAN DISCUSS ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE. THERE IS A MASSIVE HIGH TRAFFIC AREA AND I KNOW WE HAD ONE PERSON IN HERE TONIGHT TALKING ABOUT- >> EVERY DAY. >> ALL MOST HIT SOMEBODY. TEXT ME--I THINK TALKING HOW WE CAN INCREASE--MAY NEIGHBOR WAS LIKE WE NEED STOP SIGNS. I SAID THERE ARE STOP SIGNS JUST NO ONE SEES THEM OR ACKNOWLEDGE THEM. >> NO TRESS PASSING IS SOMETHING TO CONSIDER. [01:55:04] ANYTHING MOTORIZED INCLUDING ELECTRIC SCOOTERS ARE ADDRESSF HAD >> IS THAT THE CONCERN, THE ELECTRIC SCOOTERS? >> IT IS ELECTRIC SCOOTERS IS PROBABLY THE CONCERN. I THINK JUST THE TRAFFIC AT THE AREA BETWEEN--IT IS LIKE-STOP. THERE IS A PART OF YOU SHOULD STOP THERE. THERE IS STOP SIGN. I THINK THERE IS-I HAD THE COMPLAINTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST BECAUSE I LIVE THERE AND BUT IT HAS GONE FUTHER BECAUSE THERE WAS A ELDERLY WOMAN HIT AND TAKEN TO THE HOSPITAL OVER THE WEEKEND. >> BY E-BIKE? >> YES, E-MOTORCYCLE. >> DO WE HAVE THAT? >> SECOND. >> SECOND, DR. SHELLEY. ANYONE ELSE? ANY OTHER ITEMS? >> I TACK ON TO THAT, E-VEHICLE UPDATE WOULD BE GOOD. >> I ASKED FOR THAT LAST WEEK. >> I THINK THERE IS MORE BEING DONE ON THAT. >> ANYTHING ELSE FOR AGENDA ITEMS FOR FUTURE BOARD MEETINGS? ALRIGHT. MOVING TO ITEM 20. [20. Board announcements; and] BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS? >> MARATHON THIS WEEKEND. AFTER THE MARATHON MEETING. >> ANYONE ELSE? IF NOT, MOVING ON. IT IS 1917, CALL FOR MOTION AND SECOND TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. >> SO MOVED. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.