[1. Invocation / Pledge of Allegiance;] [00:00:04] >> HI. WELCOME TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. WE DO HAVE INVOCATION TO WANT. WE HAVE RABBI EDWIN GOLDBERG, WHO SERVES AS RABBI OF THE CONGREGATION OF BETH SHALOM HERE IN THE WOODLANDS. HE RECEIVED HIS RABINNIC ORDINARY NATION FROM THE HEBREW UNION COLLEGE, JEWISH INSTITUTE OF RELIGION. HE HAS TAUGHT AS AN ADJUNCT PROFESSOR AT THE UNIVERSITY OF MIAMI AND THE DEPARTMENT OF RELIST STUDIES AND JUDAIC STUDIES. HE ENJOYS SINGING WITH HIS YOUNG CHILDREN, DRINKING GREAT COFFEE, AND ATTEMPTING THE NEW YORK TIMES CROSSWORD PUZZLES. HE IS MARRIED TO MELANIE GOLDBERG AND THEY HAVE TWO SONS, JOSEPH AND BENJAMIN. RABBI, WE ARE PROUD TO HAVE YOU HERE TO WANT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE BACK. IT WAS EXACTLY A YEAR AGO, OCTOBER 21ST LAST YEAR. A LOT HAS CHANGED. THE WOODLANDS IS A SPECIAL PLACE. ONE CHANGE IS LAST YEAR I WAS A RENTER IN THE WOODLANDS NOW I'M A HOMEOWNER, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK OF THE STAFF OF THE THIN, AS WELL AS THE LEADERSHIP. IT'S TRULY WONDERFUL. WE, OF COURSE, HAVE SO MUCH IN COMMON, EVEN THOUGH OUR DIFFERENCES ARE PROFOUND. WE KNOW IN OUR PITS THERE'S SO MUCH WE AGREE WITH AS CITIZENS. WE CELEBRATE UNITY. WE BELIEVE IN GIVING OUR CHILDREN A BETTER WORLD THAN THE ONE WE'VE INHERITED. WE BELIEVE IN THE DIGNITY AND WORTH OF ALL HUMAN BEINGS. WE KNOW THAT THE WORLD IS BIG ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE ACTUAL AND HERE IN THE WOODLANDS ESPECIALLY, WE BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF GOD THROUGH RELIGIOUS OBSERVANCE AND STUDY TO STEADY US AND GUIDE US. THIS WEEK, JEWS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD BEGIN READING FROM THE SCRIPTURES ONCE AGAIN THE STORY OF CREATION, THE STORY OF ADAM AND EVE, AND INCLUDED IS AN INTERESTING THING WHERE GOD ASKS ADAM AND EVE, WHERE ARE YOU AFTER THEY HAVE ZIPPED. AND OF COURSE MOST PEOPLE SAY -- ZIPPED. MOST PEOPLE SAY, DID YOU WANT GOD KNOW WHERE THEY ARE? THEY'RE IN THE GARDEN. AND THE ANSWER GIVEN BY SAGES IS THE QUESTION IS NOT WHERE ARE YOU, BUT WHO ARE YOU? WHO ARE YOU? WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH YOUR LIFE? AND I WOULD CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF ALL OF US. WHO ARE WE? WHAT IS THE CONTRIBUTION WE'RE MAKING TO SOCIETY? HOW ARE WE LIVING OUR LIVES IN SUCH A WAY THAT MERITS GOD'S BLESSING? AND LET ME END BY QUOTING NOT FROM A RABBI, BUT FROM A WONDERFUL WRITER, EB WHITE, WHO WHEN HE RETIRED WAS ASKED, HOW WOULD YOU SUM UP YOUR LIFE PHILOSOPHY IN AND HE SAID, IF LIFE WERE MERELY EASY, THAT WOULD BE ONE THING. IF IT WERE SIMPLY SEDUCTIVE, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING ELSE. BUT I WAKE EVERYONE DAY, TORN BETWEEN A DESIRE TO SAVE THE WORLD OR SAVER THE WORLD, AND IT MAKES IT HARD TO PLAN THE DAY. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADDRESS OURSELVES TO THAT QUESTION AS WELL. HOW MUCH DO WE LIVE FOR OURSELVES? HOW MUCH DO WE LIVE FOR OTHERS? AND WHAT WILL MAKE OUR DECISION MOST PROFOUND? IN THE NAME OF GOD, I BLESS THIS ASSEMBLY AND I ASK THAT ALL OF US HEAR THE QUESTIONS THAT MATTER MOST AND CONTINUE TO LEAD. SO GOD, GOD SELF WOULD BE SO PLEASED TO CALL US GOD'S CHILDREN. >> AMEN. >> THANK YOU, RABBI. WE NOW DO THE PLEDGES TO OUR FLAGS. >> I MEAN ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. I HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE, AND INDIVISIBLE. [2. Call meeting to order;] >> NOTICE OF THIS MEETING WAS POSTED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE. POSTING OCCURRED INSIDE THE BOUNDARIES OF THE THIN AT THIS OFFICE BUILDING. STATE LAW REQUIRES A QUORUM. I'LL NOW TAKE ROLE, DIRECTOR BROWN? >> YEAR,. >> DIRECTOR MILNER? >> YES,. >> NELSON? >> I DIDN'T,. >> GIBBS? >> HERE,. >> SNYDER. >> HERE. [3. Receive, consider and act upon adoption of the meeting agenda;] >> WE HAVE SIX OF THE SEVEN BOARD MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE. WE HAVE A SUFFICIENT NUMBER TO DO THE BUSINESS. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY A? OPPOSED? THAT WOMEN TAKE US TO [4. Recognize public officials;] FOUR. RECOGNIZING PUBLIC OFFICIALS. WE HAVE ONE TODAY. [5. Public comment;] KENNETH EARNEST WITH LONE STAR CONSERVATION DISTRICT POSITION THREE. THANK YOU, KEPT, FOR BEING HERE. THAT TAKES US TO [00:05:01] AGENDA FIVE. WE'LL START WITH MR. ERNEST. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT I WAS APPOINTED TO LONE STAR GROUNDWORK CONSERVATION DISTRICT 3, WHICH REPRESENTS COUNTY PRECINCT THREE ON THE BOARD ABOUT THREE MONTHS AGO. BUT I'M ALREADY STANDING FOR ELECTION. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW I'M A 16 YEAR RESIDENT. ACTUALLY MORE THAN THAT NOW. 16 YEAR RESIDENT OF THE WOODLANDS. I LIVE IN STERLING RIDGE. LET'S SEE. 30 YEAR HYDROGEOLOGIST. I KNOW A LITTLE BIT ABOUT GROUNDWATER. I'VE BEEN DOING THIS. I'VE GOT A DEGREE IN GEOLOGY. I'M A TEXAS PROFESSIONAL GEOLOGIST. I TESTIFIED IN COURT ON GROUNDWATER ISSUES AS AN EXPERT WITNESS. AND JUST WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MYSELF. OH, ALSO I'M A REPUBLICAN PRECINCT CHAIR, PRECINCT SIX BACK IN THE EAST PART OF THE WOODLANDS. ONCE AGAIN. AND I SERVE ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. VERY INVOLVED. ANYWAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE'LL TAKE JOHN WERTZ NEXT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. JOHN WERTZ, PRECINCT COMMISSIONER TWO, ALSO PRECINCT 60. NINE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. THE FORMER TREASURER OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, MONTGOMERY COUNTY, OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS. I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH KENNETH ERNEST AND TOP-NOTCH ALL THE WAY. MY BACKGROUND IS 30 YEARS PLUS IN THE OIL AND GAS INDUSTRY. YEAH, HE DOES KNOW HIS STUFF AS FAR AS GEOLOGY. AS THE COMMITTEE CHAIR, MONTGOMERY COUNTY TEA PARTY, WE DID ENDORSE KENNETH ERNEST, AS WELL AS LARRY ROGERS, AND SEVERAL REMEMBERS ALSO THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE EITHER WITH THE THIN, BEING JOHN BROWN AND JASON NELSON, AS WELL AS STEVE LAWRENCE AND CRAIG RICARD. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, MR. WERTZ. WE'LL NOW TAKE CAMILLA WRIGHT. >> HELLO. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M CAMILLA WRIGHT. SO I AM HERE TODAY BECAUSE I ADDRESSED YOU GUYS ABOUT A COUPLE MONTHS AGO ABOUT THE CREEKSIDE NEIGHBORHOOD. I LIVE IN DAFFODIL MEADOW. MY HOUSE SETS AGAINST A BASKETBALL COURT. SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN UPDATE. SO THE LAST LADY THAT WAS HERE WITH ME, HER NAME WAS DONNA. SHE NO LONGER IS A HOMEOWNER. SHE MOVED. IT WAS EASY FOR HER TO MOVE BECAUSE OF ALL THE NOISE THAT SHE WAS EXPERIENCING AT HER HOME, SO THEY'VE MOVED AWAY TO MILWAUKEE. NOW I AM SURROUNDED BY RENTERS, AND THEY'RE NOT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO ADDRESS THE BOARD ABOUT THE NOISE, BECAUSE THEY'RE RENTERS, SO THEY DON'T FEEL EMPOWERED TO BE HERE, SO I'M HERE ALONE TONIGHT. HOPEFULLY I CAN GET OTHER INDIVIDUALS HERE THAT ARE EXPERIENCING WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING. SO WHAT I WANT YOU GUYS TO DO IS HEAR WHAT I'M EXPERIENCING. SO THAT IS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT I'VE EXPERIENCED. SO IMAGINE YOU'RE SITTING ON YOUR PORCH AND YOU HEAR IT. YOU GO TO YOUR HOME, YOU HEAR IT. YOU GO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT. YOU HEAR T I WAKE UP AT 6:00 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING. I HAVE A EUROPEAN TEAM I MANAGE, SO I USUALLY HEAR IT AT 5:00 A.M. IN THE MORNING. AND THAT'S JUST A LITTLE PIECE OF IT. WE HAVE A GREAT COMMUNITY. PEOPLE WANT TO BE HERE. WE WANT TO ENJOY THE PARKS. I WANT TO ENJOY THE PARK. HOWEVER, IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO BE IN A HOME WHERE YOU HEAR THIS ALL DAY LONG. SO LAST TIME, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. WE REALLY DIDN'T ASK FOR ANYTHING. SO MY ASK TO YOU GUYS IS THIS: REMOVE THE BASKETBALL COURT. REPLACE IT WITH PICKLEBALL. PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY LOVE PICKLEBALL. THE BASKETBALL COURT BRINGS A VERY, VERY BAD CROWD. I HAVE CALLED THE POLICE NUMEROUS TIMES. I WOULD NOT PLAY CUSS WORDS IN HERE. I WOULDN'T PLAY THE FOUL LANGUAGE THAT I HEAR AT THIS [00:10:02] COURT. MY HOME IS LITERALLY -- I CAN WALK TEN STEPS AND I'M ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. SO IT GETS PRETTY BAD. PICKLEBALL WON'T SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THERE WILL STILL BE NOISE, BUT AT LEAST YOU'RE NOT HEARING THE SOUNDS OF BASKETBALLS HITTING THE PAVEMENT ALL NIGHT LONG. AND I KNOW OUR PARKS CLOSE AT 11:00, BUT THESE PEOPLE DON'T CARE. THEY STAY THERE UNTIL 12:00 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT. AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYONE'S JOY OF PLAYING BASKETBALL. WE ALSO HAVE -- I'LL BE DONE. >> YOU'RE FINE. >> WE EVER A GARDEN THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE COULD SWITCH IT. WE COULD PUT THE GARDEN THERE AND THEN PUT THE BASKETBALL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COURT. AGAIN, I PERSONALLY DON'T WANT TO TAKE AWAY FROM ANYONE'S JOY OF PLAYING BASKETBALL, BECAUSE I KNOW HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS. MY BROTHER PLAYS IT EVERYDAY. HE LOVES IT. HE'S HANDICAPPED. WE HAVE A HANDICAPPED GUY THAT ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TO THE PARK AND PLAYS BASKETBALL. SO I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT PHYSICAL ACTIVITY IS TO PEOPLE, BUT TO BE ABLE TO SLEEP IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THE VERY LAST COMMENT I WILL SAY IS THIS: THE BASKETBALL COURT HAS ALSO CREATED A LOT OF ANXIETY. I DON'T KNOW WHEN TO CALL THE COPS OR WHEN NOT TO, WHEN SOMEONE IS BEING HURT AND WHEN SOMEONE IS NOT BEING HURT. WE HAVE SOME YOUNG GIRLS THAT GO OUT THERE AT NIGHT AND YOU HEAR THEM SCREAMING. I'M TIRED OF BEING IN A POSITION OF MAKING THAT CALL ON IF THEY'RE SAFE OR NOT. SO I JUST ASK THAT MAKE IT A PICKLE BALL, MAKE IT A GARDEN ANYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE BASKETBALL COURT. BUT I'M NOT SAYING COMPLETELY JUST GET AWAY FROM BASKETBALL. JUST MOVE IT AWAY FROM THE HOMES. SO THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU. WE CAN'T RESPOND TO YOUR COMMENT TODAY, BUT I WILL ADDRESS THE COMMENT ABOUT THE RENTERS. EVERY RESIDENT OF THE WOODLANDS IS ENTITLED TO COMMA DRESS THE BOARD, WHETHER THEY OWN -- COME ADDRESS THE BOARD, WHETHER THEY OWN PROPERTY OR NOT, INCLUDING SOMEONE WHO IS REPRESENTING AN APARTMENT OR REPRESENTING A HOME. EACH THOSE WHO ARE NOT VOTERS, SILTY SINGS FROM ANOTHER COUNTRY WHO RESIDE IN THE COUNTRY ARE STILL WELCOME AND ENCOURAGED TO ADDRESS THEIR ISSUES TO THE BOARD. THERE ARE NO REQUIREMENTS OR REQUISITES TO COME THERE AND VOICE THEIR CONCERNS. IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND, SHARE THAT BACK WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LET THEM KNOW WE WELCOME THEIR FEEDBACK. >> I SURE WELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, CAMILLA. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S GOING TO END [a. Perk Your Park Grant Award;] PUBLIC COMMENT. AND MOVE US ON TO OUR PRESIDENT'S AND CEO'S REPORT. . >> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE TONIGHT. THE FIRST ONE IS SOMETHING CALLED THE PERK YOUR PARK GRANT AWARD. THE WOODLANDS THIN HAS BEEN AWARDED A $75,000 GRANT BY THE NATIONAL RECREATION AND PARKS ASSOCIATION, AND NIAGARA BOTTLING COMPANY TO BUILD A BIRD LINE IN THE GEORGE MITCHELL NATURE PRE-SEVEN. THIS BIRD BLIND WITHIN LOCATED OFF THE CREEKSIDE NORTH TRAILHEAD AND PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR BIRDS AND OTHER WILDLIFE. THE THIN RECEIVED THIS GRANT THROUGH A SOCIAL MEDIA COMPETITION, WHICH GENERATED OVER 26,000 VOTES. SO WE WERE VERY ACTIVE IN STAFF, IN GETTING STAFF TO VOTE, AND ALSO IN OUR SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGNS AND ON OUR WEBSITE, GETTING RESIDENTS TO VOTE. AND SO I WANTED TO JUST ANNOUNCE THAT. I THINK IT WAS INITIALLY ANNOUNCED TODAY. AND THEN ALSO WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THE RESIDENTS WHO HELPED AND JOINED US IN THOSE [b. Outstanding Community Forestry Program Award;] VOTES TO GIVE US THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR THE GRANT. SECONDLY, I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE WOODLANDS THIN WAS RECOGNIZED WITH THE 2022 TEXAS CHAPTER OF THE INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY OF ARBOR CULTURE AWARD FOR OUTSTANDING COMMUNITY FORESTRY PROGRAM. THIS AWARD WAS SUBMITTED BY ALLEN SELMER, WHO IS A FORESTRY FORMAN IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND AMBER BARNES, WHO IS AN EDUCATION SPECIALIST IN OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. ALLEN RECEIVED THE AWARD ON BEHALF OF THE THIN AT THE 2022 TEXAS TREE CONFERENCE ON SEPTEMBER 28TH. THIS AWARD RECOGNIZED INDIVIDUALS, ORGANIZATIONS, OR MUNICIPALITIES THAT PROMOTED COMMUNITY FORESTRY THROUGH A PROGRAM THAT SIGNIFICANTLY ENGAGES, EDUCATES, OR ENHANCES THE COMMUNITY. AND SO FOR US, WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WAS OUR INTEGRATED FORESTRY MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES OUR INVASIVE VINE REMOVAL PROGRAM, COMMUNITY REFORESTATION, AND ARBOR DAY. SO AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO ALLEN AND AMBER FOR SPEARHEADING THIS, AND FOR ALL OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS IN THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT WHO HELP MAINTAIN THE HEALTH OF OUR FOREST. [00:15:04] [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. AND WE DID DO THE [ CONSENT AGENDA] PHOTO OPS EARLIER BEFORE THE MEETING GOT STARTED. SO THAT WILL TAKE TO US AGENDA ITEM SEVEN. RECEIVE, CONSIDER, AND ACTS UPON OUR CONSENT AGENDA. MOTION TO APPROVE? >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> ALL AYE. [8. Receive, consider and act upon a review of the drought management plan (as requested by Director Rieser);] >> OPPOSED? THAT WILL CARRY. EIGHT, CONSIDER, RECEIVE, AND ACT UPON APPROVAL OF THE DROUGHT MANAGEMENTS PLAN. AND I BELIEVE DOCTOR >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF AN ITEM FROM THE LAST FEW MONTHS ABOUT DROUGHT MANAGEMENT, AND SPECIFICALLY THE POND FILLS. AND THE OUTCOME OF OUR DISCUSSION ON SEPTEMBER 22ND WAS THE REPORT FROM BLIA AL ENGINEERING, AND ADAM VENTO IS REALLY GOING TO GO INTO THE DETAILS. HE IS AN ENGINEER FROM BLIAL THAT CAN GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICS AND THE NUANCES OF READING THE REPORT. ON THAT SEPTEMBER 22ND BOARD MEETING, THE BOARD DID REVIEW AND WE WANT THAT THEY CONFIRMED THE OVERALL KIND OF GOALS OF THE DROUGHT MANAGEMENT PLAN TO THE PONDS, MAINTAINING THE 50% CAPACITY DEPTH IF NEEDED TO -- THIS WOULD BE WHEN WE NEEDED TO REFILL THE PONDS. THAT WAS DUE IN OCTOBER. WE MISSED THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. THAT REPORT CAME IN ON OCTOBER 7, SO A QUICK TURNAROUND. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A STATUS. AS WE KNOW, WE HAD CONSIDERABLE LACK OF RAIN IN THE JUNE, JULY, AND EACH INTO EARLY AUGUST TIME PERIOD. WE DID RECEIVE SOME RAIN IN THE LATE AUGUST/EARLY SEPTEMBER TIME PERIOD, AND WE WERE BLESSED WITH SOME RAIN JUST LAST WEEK. AND THIS WAS THE LAST WEEK'S TOTAL. SO YOU CAN SEE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THE KAYAK RIDGE AREA, PROBABLY BETWEEN THAT 1.52 AND.4. DON'T KNOW EXACT TERMS, BUT PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN THERE IS A SAFE ON WHAT THE AMOUNT OF RAIN HIT, THAT SPECIFIC POND THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT. I ALSO HAVE INCLUDED IN HERE A FIVE-YEAR KIND OF PROFILE OF THE RAIN. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IN SOME MONTHS WHEN YOU LOOK AT MAY OF 20211, IT WAS UP TO 250% WHEN EFFECT THE LOWEST WAS THE PAST S AGO, WHERE YOU'RE PROBABLY AT THE 10% LEVEL. SO YOU SEE ON AVERAGE, THAT 100%. AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE OF, YOU KNOW, AN AVERAGE YEAR OF JUST UNDER 50 INCHES OF RAIN PER YEAR, YOU SEE WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW IN OCTOBER. A LITTLE BIT OF A DOWNWARD SLOPE UNTIL WE GET TO THE SPRING RAINS, AND THEN IT CLIMBS UP. BASICALLY, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS WE MISSED, FOR THE MOST PART, SOME OF OUR MOST PROLIFIC MONTHS OF RAIN, THE JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST TIME PERIOD WHEN THE HUMIDITY REALLY BOOMS UP AND IS WE GET THE DOWNPOURS AND THAT EFFECTIVELY RECHARGES A LOT OF THE PONDS. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO ADAM RIGHT NOW, AND HE CAN GO INTO THE SPECIFICS OF WHAT THEY REVIEWED AND SOME POTENTIAL OPTIONS. AND HE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ME AT THE END ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. >> THANK YOU, CHRIS. HELLO, BOARD, AND THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. CHRIS GAVE A PRETTY GOOD SUMMARY OF BASICALLY WHAT YOU'LL READ IF YOU READ THROUGH OUR REPORT. BOTTOM LINE, SHORT, IF YOU HAVE A BOND THAT'S FED BY THIS LITTLE BIT OF AN AREA, DRAINAGE AREA THAT CONTRIBUTES RUNOFF TO THESE POPPED, YOU DON'T RECEIVE ANY RAIN, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE DROPS IN THOSE PONDS OCCUR, ESPECIALLY IN THE HOTTER MONTHS WHERE EVAPORATION IS A HUGE ISSUE ON SOME SMALLER BONDS IN THESE COMMUNITIES. TO KIND OF SUMMARIZE WHAT WE WENT THROUGH IS WE LOOKED, STARTING BACK IN SEPTEMBER OF 2017, WE HAD A FIVE-YEAR TIMEFRAME. WE START JUST TEAM END OF HARVEY. WE USED A COMBINATION OF AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND SOME CALIBRATION METHODS OF SOME REALLY STANDARD RAINFALL NUMBERS FOR THE AREA TO EVALUATE ON A DAY BY DAY AND A MONTH BY MONTH BASIS TO CALIBRATE HOW THE PONDS WERE OPERATING ON THE CHANGING OF THE SEASONS. WE WERE AIM TO IDENTIFY A POTENTIAL OPTION THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY IMPROVE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE PONDS, BUT AGAIN, WITHOUT INSERTING TOO MUCH OF MY OPINION, THE INCREASES ARE SOMEWHAT MARGINAL IF YOU READ THROUGH, WHAT THAT IMPROVEMENT WOULD ENTAIL WOULD MEAN REMOVING SIX LOCAL INLETS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THE PONDS THE STREETS INTO THE PONDS, JUST TO CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE BIT MORE AREA: THAT WOULD BE OPTION ONE THERE. OPTION TWO, OBVIOUSLY, WOULD GIVE US A LITTLE BIT MORE OF AN AREA THAT WE CONTRIBUTES TO THE [00:20:04] PONDS, BUT IF YOU READ THROUGH SOME OF THE COMPLICATIONS FOR IT, WE DETERMINED IT WAS PROBABLY NOT FEASIBLE, MOSTLY BECAUSE IT WOULD REQUIRE THE LOWERING OF THE STATIC ELEVATION OF THE PONDS FOR THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM TO STILL OPERATE AS INTENDED, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE THE PERFORMANCE OF THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM WHEN WE REALLY NEED IT JUST TO MAINTAIN THE POND LEVEL WHENEVER IT'S NOT REALLY RAINING ANYWAY. AND THEN NUMBER 3 IS A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A BROADER ISSUE THAN JUST ENGINEERING CAN TACKLE. IT'S ABOUT TYING THE SYSTEM INTO A MUNICIPAL SYSTEM THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, SUPPLEMENT THE POND VOLUME THAT WE LOSE DURING THE HOTTER OR DRIER MONTHS. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF THOSE OPTIONS TWO AND THREE THAT REALLY WE DIDN'T DIVE INTO CALCULATIONS WISE, BECAUSE THEY KIND OF WENT BEYOND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE THOUGHT WAS A FEASIBLE SOLUTION FOR RIGHT NOW. SO FOCUSING IN ON OPTION ONE, WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS THAT FOR THE NORTH POND, THESE TWO PONDS ARE, IN FACT, INDEPENDENT, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO ONE ANOTHER. FOR THE NORTH POND, WE HAVE PRIME MINISTER FIVE AND A QUARTER ACRES CONTRIBUTING RUNOFF TO THEM. BY REMOVING THREE INLETS, REPLACING THEM WITH SOME CURB INLETS OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD DIRECT FLOW THERE, WE COULD INCREASE THAT TO A LITTLE OVER 6 ACRES. A MARGINAL INCREASE. AND FOR THE SOUTHBOUND, APPROXIMATELY 6 ACRES, SEVEN AND A QUARTER. WHAT OUR CALCULATIONS SHOWED IS PERRIN OF OF RAIN THAT WE RECEIVED -- PER INCH OF RAIN WE RECEIVED, THE AMOUNT OF INCREASE AND DEPTH IN THE POND COMPARED TO THE CURRENT CONDITIONS IS ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER OF AN INCH SO AGAIN, IF YOU'RE TALKING YOUR TWO, 3 FEET DOWN FROM A NORMAL LEVEL, IT TAKES A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RAIN WITH IMPROVEMENTS TO SUPPLEMENT THAT VOLUME. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT THOSE TWO NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM ARE IDENTIFYING IS THE AMOUNT OF INCREASE THAT THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD PROVIDE. SO AGAIN, SUMMARIZING KIND OF WHAT WE FOUND AND LOOKING, COMPARING TO THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY AND IN-FIELD OBSERVATIONS, WE SEE THAT OVER THIS TIME -- OVER THIS FIVE-YEAR TIMEFRAME, IF YOU HAD IMPLEMENT THIS OPTION ONE, YOU'D REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT A FOOT INCREASE IN DEPTH CURRENTLY, INDICATING THAT IT'S CLOSELY TIED TO RAINFALL. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW MUCH AREA YOU DIRECT TO THESE PONDS, WHEN WE HAVE A DROUGHT SEASON, THEY'RE GOING TO DROP. AND THEN CONTINUE ON HERE. THIS IS JUST A SCHEMATIC THAT SHOWS GENERALLY WHAT THOSE CURB INLETS WOULD BE REPLACED WITH. IT'S CALLED AN ARMORED CURVE. BASICALLY, IT'S JUST A GALVANIZED STEAL MANUFACTURED PIECES THAT REPLACES WHERE THE CURB GOES AND DRAINS OVER LAND INTO THE PONDS. IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A CHEAP OR EASY SOLUTION. JUST TO REPLACE THE SIX INLETS, WE'RE ESTIMATING AROUND $100,000 FOR ENGINEERING FEES AND CONSTRUCTION COSTS. AND OF COURSE THEN YOU'VE GOT CONCERNS LIKE YOU'RE TEARING UP PART OF THE ROAD. YOU'RE AFFECTING SOME OF THE DRAINAGE CONDITIONS IN THOSE AREAS. AND AS CHRIS HAS IDENTIFIED, THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED ISSUE. OF COURSE, I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN RECEIVING COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PONDS DROPPING, BUT AGAIN, AS THE GRAPHS SHOW, WE'RE ALREADY THIS YEAR AT A SEVEN OR 8-INCH DEFICIT ON WHAT A NORMAL RAINFALL WOULD HAVE US RECEIVE AT THIS POINT, COMPARED TO THE FOUR YEARS PRIOR. WE WERE ACTUALLY AT THIS POINT IN THE YEAR ABOVE THE NORMAL. SO THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF BIAS AS TO WHY PONDS ARE APPEARING SUDDENLY THEY'RE NOT PERFORMING WELL. >> THANK YOU, ADAM. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE TECHNICALITIES OF THE REPORT AND WHAT THE REPORT EXPLORED, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY WHY WE BROUGHT ADAM TODAY FOR THAT. THE BOARD RIGHT NOW IN FRONT OF YOU DETERMINES THE RECOMMENDATIONS. THERE MAY BE OTHER IDEAS ON HOW TO APPROACH BOARD REAFFIRM THE COMMITMENT TO THE DROUGHT PLAN? DO WE KEEP IT AT 50% LEVEL IF WE DO SEE NEGATIVE IMPACTS, BUT WHEN WE GO BELOW 50 APPROXIMATERS AND START SEEING IMPACTS TO POND HEALTH OR STRUCTURES, WE HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF FILLING THOSE. THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE WERE KIND OF DREAMING UP IS DOES THE BOARD SAY, BY THIS DATE, IF IT DROPS BELOW X LEVEL, THEN GO USE THE POTABLE WATER. OR EVEN A THIRD OPTION WOULD BE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IMPLEMENTING, YOU KNOW, THIS PROPOSAL OF THIS OPTION ONE THAT ADAM AND HIS TEAM HAVE DEVELOPED, BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS ALSO HAVE TO LOOK POTENTIALLY AT THIS SISTER POPPED HERE OF HALLWOOD, WHICH [00:25:01] IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR, WHICH IS SEEING SIMILAR CONDITIONS, AND POTENTIALLY A LITTLE BIT DOWN FURTHER, WHICH WOULD BE HAMBLIN AND TWIN HAUNS, WHICH ARE LOW RIGHT NOW THAT DIDN'T RECEIVE, WHEN WE SAW THE RAINS IN SEPTEMBER, SOME OF THE RESIDENTS IDENTIFIED THAT THOSE, YOU KNOW, FOUR IS PONDS LARGELY WEREN'T GETTING RECHARGED. WITH THAT CAUTION, I WANT TO THROW SOME CAUTION OUT THAT THERE ARE OTHER PONDS IN THE SYSTEM WHERE OVERTIME, THEY WILL GO LOWER, YOU KNOW? WE HAD A RESIDENT IDENTIFY COKEBURY POND THERE WAS CONCERNS WHY WE WERE OR WERE NOT USING THE WATER. DOES THAT POND, SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT, GET THESE ARMORED CURBS? WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH RESIDENTS OVER THE YEARS AND MAYBE JUST BECAUSE THEY KNOW ME AND WE'VE HAD RELATIONSHIPS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT LONG LAKE IN PANTHER CREEK, THAT ONE WE GET, YOU KNOW, A MONTH AND A HALF WITH NO RAIN, THAT LAKE GOES. SO THE CHALLENGE IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE THINGS, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT THEM SYSTEM WIDE AND APPROACH THEM FROM 67, 68 BONDS, NOT JUST THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY. AND THAT'S WHERE WE SEE JUST THE NATURE OF, YOU KNOW, SOME PONDS ARE GOING TO INTERACT DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER PONDS. AND SOME ARE GOING TO RAISE A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THAN OTHER PONDS. AND THE COMMENT IN ADAM'S REPORT WAS THAT IF THIS WAS, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, A NORMAL YEAR THAT THAT NORMAL LEVEL WOULD RAISE INTO AN ACCEPTABLE STATIC LEVEL OF WATER. >> SO ADAM, BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE WANTED TO HEAR FROM YOU TODAY THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY IN WHAT YOU WE WANT OVER, IS WHAT IS THE -- YOU WENT OVER, IS WHAT IS THE WEALTH CONDITIONS OF THE POND YOU REVIEWED? YOU DIDN'T DO THAT? >> NO. THEIR EXPERTISE WAS SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE ENGINEERING ASPECT. THEY RECOMMENDED [INDISCERNIBLE] TO US TO LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC ASPECT, ARE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES CONSULTANT. THEY'VE BEEN WITH US, THE COMMUNITY FOR 20 YEARS. THEY'RE THE ONES WHO WROTE THE INTEGRATED FORCE MANAGEMENTS PLAN. IRONICALLY, THAT'S RECEIVED ACTUALLY MULTIPLE AWARDS ON THAT. THEY HAVE SAID IN PREVIOUS STATEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK ON CONTINUING TO MONITOR THIS, LOOKING AT THE DISSOLVED OXYGEN, LOOKING AT THE PH LEVELS, THAT THOSE ARE THE TRIGGERS THAT YOU PUT THE POTABLE WATER IN IF YOU GET TO THAT TIME AND PERIOD. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE CONTINUE TO MONITOR AT THIS POND, AS WELL AS OTHER PONDS IN THE SYSTEM. >> I GUESS A FOLLOW-UP TO THAT QUESTION WOULD BE SINCE OUR POLICY IS AT 50% OR THE HEALTH OF THE POND, WHAT PERCENTAGE ARE WE AT TODAY IN SOME OF THESE PONDS? >> VARIES. OKAY? WHAT YOU SEE AT HAMBLIN, THESE FOUR PONDS IN QUESTION, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE 3 FEET DOWN. THEY'RE STILL IN SOME OF THE AREAS, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POND DEPTH. I THINK ONE OF THE PONDS IS AT -- THE BOTTOM OF THE POND IS 118, KAYAK RIDGE, AND THE TOP OF THE STATIC LEVEL IS AT 118, 119. YOU'RE PROBABLY IN THAT 115 RIGHT NOW, SO YOU'VE STILL GOT ABOUT 6 FEET. SO YOU'RE STILL GOOD. NOW, WHAT YOU DO SEE IS SOME OF THE FINGERS THAT ARE A LITTLE BIT SHALLOWER. AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SEE THAT, YOU DRIVE IN, IS IT THE MOST ESTHETICALLY PLEASING? ABSOLUTELY NOT. BUT FROM LOOKING AT THE ENTIRE POND, THEN YOU'RE STILL WITHIN THOSE PARAMETERS. >> SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THE PONDS THAT HAVE HIT THE 50% LEVEL YET? >> HAMBLIN AND -- WELL, I THINK SOME OF THEM, LIKE THAT HAMBLIN AND TWIN PONDS THAT WE HAD TO DO ACTION EARLIER TODAY WERE WELL BELOW 50%. PROBABLY DOWN TO 20%. WE ACTUALLY DID FILL THOSE, BECAUSE WE WERE SEEING SOME MARKERS IN THE PH AND DISSOLVED OXYGEN, STARTING TO SLIDE A LITTLE BIT, AND THAT'S WHEN WE ACTED. >> SO WHEN YOU DID THE REFILL FOR THOSE TWO PARTICULAR PONDS, DID YOU REFILL THEM TO 50%? >> WE'RE STILL CLIMBING UP TO THAT 50 % OF IT TAKES ABOUT A WEEK. >> OKAY. >> AND ONE OF THE PONDS MOST LIKELY WILL BE SHUT OFF TOMORROW MORNING. THE OTHER ONE HAS A COUPLE MORE DAYS TO GO, BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ONE AND A HALF INCH TUBES AND 2-INCH TUBES TO RE-FOAM. WE'RE FILLING THEM UP TO THE 50 OR 60% LEVEL. >> I WAS TRYING TO SET PEOPLE'S EXPECTATIONS. WHEN WE DO INTERVENE, WE'RE NOT INTERVENING TO THE 100% LEVEL OF THE POND. >> RIGHT. >> WE WOULD BE INTERVENING BACK TO A LIVEABLE, HEALTHY POND LEVEL, WHICH IS AT THAT 50 PLUS% RANGE. >> YES, SIR. >> THE EXPECTATION, I KNOW THAT SOME RESIDENTS WERE HOPING FOR, OBVIOUSLY WE'D COME AND FILL IT BACK UP AND IT WOULD BE ITS NORMAL LEVEL. BUT WHERE WE DO INTERVENING, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO TO THAT EXTENT. IT'S GOING TO GO JUST TO THE LEVEL OF THE HEALTH REQUIRED FOR THE POND. >> RIGHT. >> OKAY. THOSE ARE MY [00:30:01] QUESTIONS. I MEAN, I'M IN FAVOR OF MAKING SURE THAT WE -- BECAUSE WE DO HAVE SO MANY DIFFERENT PONDS THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. THERE'S PONDS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT ARE ALSO DOWN 3 FEET. NO DIFFERENT THAN THE NEIGHBORHOOD YOU GUYS ARE IN. AND IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENT STANDARD, WE HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT. WHEN WE FILL THAT UP, WE'D HAVE 66 OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS ASKING WHY WE DON'T DO THEIRS. AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THE STAFF, WITHOUT EVEN COMING TO US, PROACTIVELY STARTED FILLING TWO PONDS THAT HIT THAT TRIGGER OF THE HEALTH OF THE POND AND BELOW THE 50% LINE, WHICH IS WHAT OUR CURRENT BOARD POLICY IS. SO I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BALANCE OF THE BOARD TO OPINE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER THOUGHTS. >> WOULD YOU REMIND US OF THE LIMIT OF HOW MUCH WE CAN PUT INTO THESE? PUMP INTO THESE PONDS? >> LET ME REPHRASE THAT QUESTION. THERE ARE NINE PONDS THAT ACTUALLY ARE RESTRICTED IN THEORY WITH A WELL. SO WHEN WE HAVE TALKED OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS, ABOUT 9. 5 MILLION GALLONS, THOSE -- THAT 9.5 MILLION GALLONS SERVES NINE SPECIFIC PONDS. >> RIGHT. >> OKAY? NOW, THEORETICALLY, THERE ARE THE OTHER PONDS. MOST OF THEM HAVE SOME SORT OF POTABLE FILL THAT IS ATTACHED TO THE POND. FOR YEARS, WE HAVE NOT EXERCISED THAT FILL BASED ON THIS POLICY. IN THEORY, THERE'S NO LIMIT. OKAY? OF WATER, OF WHAT YOU CAN PUT IN THOSE PONDS HOWEVER, THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY HAS TAKEN MORE OF A WATER CONSERVATION APPROACH AND A DROUGHT MANAGEMENT APPROACH, RECOGNIZING THAT THAT WATER COMES FROM WELL SOURCES OR EVEN MIX SOURCES OF SURFACE WATER, AS WELL AS WELL WATER, AND THAT'S WHY SOME OF THE SENSITIVITY ABOUT USING THE WATER FOR P POND FILLS. >> AND HOW MANY GALLONS HAVE YOU PUT IN NOW? >> TO RAISE -- WELL -- >> THAT HAVE DIPPED BELOW THE 50%. YOU KICKED IN SOME WATER. TELL ME AGAIN. >> ON THE TWO HAMBLIN PONDS, YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY A MILLION GALLONS OF WATER. >> IS THE HAMBLIN PONDS ONE OF THE NINE AND A HALF MILLION GALLON? >> NO, SIR. >> IS SO YOU'RE USING A DIFFERENT SOURCE? >> THOSE WERE MUD 386 PONDS THAT WERE NOT PART OF THE WELL. >> AND SO I'M GOING TO JUST KIND OF REPHRASE AND MAKE SURE. WE HAVE NINE PONDS THAT DO HAVE A NINE AND A HALF MILLION GALLON USAGE? >> PERMANENT, YES, SIR. >> THERE'S NO COST FOR THAT NINE AND A HALF MILLION. >> JUST BESIDES ELECTRICITY. >> OKAY. AND THEN THE OTHER 50, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX PONDS WOULD BE FILLED WITH OUR REGULAR WATER SUPPLY? >> POTABLE WATER, WHICH COMES POTENTIALLY FROM SURFACE WATER OR FROM WELL WATER. AND THOSE RATES ARE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 350 ON UP. PER THOUSAND. >> SO THE OTHER NON-PREWATER POPPED, SO TO SPEAK, WOULD BE INCURRING EXPENSES? >> IF YOU CHOSE TO FILL THEM UP, YES. >> OKAY. >> OR EXCUSE ME, IF THEY MET THE THRESHOLDS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. >> SO THE ONES YOU'RE INTERVENE OKAY RIGHT NOW, WE'RE USING FUNDS TO PAY FOR THE WATER GOING INTO THOSE? >> YES. >> AND BECAUSE I'M REALLY GOOD AT MATH, BUT I'M NOT REALLY GOOD AT WATER MATH, WHAT'S A MILLION GALLONS OF FILL COST? >> I THINK IN LAST MONTH'S SCENARIO, I THINK I HAD IT AT, LIKE, $15,000. >> OKAY. SO 15? >> IN THERE. >> AND REALLY, SO IF WE TRY TO TAKE THE TOTALITY OF THIS ISSUE OUT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY TO FILL UP ALL OF THESE PONDS THAT ARE DEPLETED, IT'S NOT A SMALL AMOUNT. >> I DID AN ANALYSIS ONE TIME. THERE WAS IN EXCESS, TO RAISE ALL THE PONDS 1 FOOT, MINUS LAKE PALOMA AND WOODLANDS WAS WELL OVER 50 MILLION GALLONS. >> OKAY. . >> I HAVE A QUESTION. I KNOW YOU AN DRESSED BOTH HAMBLIN LAKE AND TWIN POND. WE HAVE ADDRESSED HALL WOOD AND KAYAK. ARE THEY BELOW THE 50%? >> WHAT WE LOOKED AT WHEN WE MEASURE THEM, THOSE WERE AT THE BASE OF THE POND IS AT 110 FEET ELEVATION, AND WE'RE PROBABLY SETTING RIGHT NOW AT 115, 116. FROM THE PICTURES, THAT'S NOT A PICTURE OF THAT POND. WHEN YOU GO INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE PONDS THAT ARE THERE, YOU SEE THAT'S [00:35:01] PROBABLY ABOUT 3 FEET BELOW RIGHT NOW. NOW, THAT WAS A WEEK AGO. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SOME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTS, AND THEY'RE SAYING IT'S A LITTLE BIT LOWER THAN THAT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, THE EBB AND FLOW ON A DAILY BASIS. COOL WEATHER IS GOING TO SLOW DOWN THE EVALUATION * * -- EVAPORATION. THERE'S A DAY BY DAY BASIS IMPACT OF THE WATER LEVELS. >> GO ON. >> NO, GO AHEAD. >> SO WHILE WE'RE STILL ON THOSE, THERE'S PARTS OF THE KAYAK RIDGE POPPED OR MAYBE IT'S HALLWOOD THAT ARE BELOW -- >> YES. RIGHT HERE IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THOSE ARE THE FINGERS, AND THOSE FINGERS ARE -- I WILL AGREE WITH YOU THAT THEY'RE BELOW THE 50%, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS DEEP, SO THERE'S A CONSTANT LEVEL OF LAKE ELEVATION THAT, YOU KNOW, WATER IS EVEN ACROSS THE SURFACE. DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS AT THE 110 LEVEL OR AT THAT AREA. I THINK WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, IT WAS PROBABLY 113, 114. SO YOU'VE GOT A SMALLER MARGIN OF THAT. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TOTALITY OF THE POPPED, NOT THAT SPECIFIC FINGER. >> I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD. >> LET ME FINISH AND THEN IT'S YOURS. SO WHAT WAS DONE WITH TWIN POND AND HAMBLIN LAKE? >> WE WERE DOWN/CAN IT NOT BE DONE AT BUY ACT AND HALLWOOD? >> YES, BUT RIGHT NOW, PER YOUR BOARD POLICY, WE DID NOT FEEL THAT IT'S MET THE CRITERIA OF THE POND HEALTH ISSUES. WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE PH LEVELS, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE DISSOLVE OXYGEN, IT'S STILL, BECAUSE IT'S A LARGE BODY OF WATER, SO THE WATER COLUMNS, THERE'S EVEN MORE SCIENCE INTO IT THAN I CAN PRESENT TO YOU, BECAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE BIT PAST MY KNOWLEDGE BASE, BUT IT'S STILL A, QUOTE/UNQUOTE, HEALTHY POND AS DETERMINED BY OUR LAKE AND POND CONSULTANTS. AND THE STAFF IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, MITCH, OUR NEW ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION, IS IN CONTACT WITH LAKE PRO ON A DAILY BASIS ABOUT THESE SPECIFIC PONDS. SO IF WE HAVE TO AT THE STAFF LEVEL, WHEN THEY MEET THE CRITERIA, WHICH WE BELIEVE ASK IN SYNC SINK WITH THE POLICY, TURN ON THE WATER. THAT WAS WHAT WAS DONE IN TWIN PONDS AND HAMBLIN. >> WHEN YOU GO TO TWIN POND AND HAMBLIN. THERE ARE A COUPLE PICTURES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE AT LESS THAN 1%, TO BE QUITE HONEST WITH YOU. KEEP GOING. >> CAN YOU LOOK AT THIS PICTURE >> I CAN'T SEE IT ARE FROM HERE THOSE PONDS ARE BEING FILLED RIGHT NOW. >> I MEAN, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS [INDISCERNIBLE] >> YOU'RE IN THE TEN TO 25% LEVEL. YOU WERE IN THE TEN TO 25% LEVEL. >> REALLY >> YES, SIR. IT GOES DEEPER. >> IS THAT JUST A FINGER OR IS THAT [INDISCERNIBLE] >> I GOTTA * TO LOOK A LITTLE CLOSER TO SEE WHICH ONE IS TWIN AND WHICH ONE IS HAMBLIN. THAT ONE, THERE'S ACTUALLY MORE WATER BEHIND THIS. THERE'S AN ISLAND IN THAT POND. >> CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW YOU'RE FILLING IT? WHERE IS THE WATER COMING FROM AND THERE'S NO WATER OVER THERE. CAN YOU DO THAT? >> DR. SHELLEY ASKED -- HOW? TURN ON A VALVE. >> YOU HAVE A SYSTEM, BUT IT'S NOT A WELL THERE? >> IT IS NOT A WELL, CORRECT. HOWEVER, THAT WATER DOES COME FROM A WELL. >> EVENTUALLY. >> NOT OUR WELL, BUT A MUD 386 WELL. >> IT'S LIKE FILLING YOUR POOL. YOU'VE GOT A VALVE, YOU OPEN IT UP, AND IT GOES TO THE LEVEL LINE. THE ONES THAT WE'RE FILLING RIGHT NOW ARE COSTING US THE WATER RATE, WHICH IS FOR $15,000 FOR A MILLION GALLONS SO FAR, WHAT THE ESTIMATE IS FOR THOSE TWO PONDS. IF WE DID A FOOT IN EVERY POND, IT'S 750,000. >> SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT, YES. >> AND THERE'S THREE OR FEET DOWN ACROSS THE DIFFERENT POND SYSTEMS, SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF YOU TRIED TO TO DO EVERYBODY, YOU'RE DOING $3 MILLION. >> $3 MILLION. >> HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, NOT EVERY POND NEEDS IT, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. SO LITTLE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS PROPOSED LAST MONTH, HOWEVER, THE BOARD INDICATED THAT THAT WAS NOT AN INTEREST WAS PUTTING A FLOAT VALVE ON EVERY ONE OF THESE. WHEN IT REACHES X, IT AUTOMATICALLY FILLED UP TO Y. HOWEVER, WE ALSO REQUESTED I KNOW A WATER BUDGET OF SEVERAL [00:40:03] HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO BE ABLE TO USE. THAT'S ANOTHER OPTION. IF THE BOARD TAKES A POSITION OF THE DROUGHT MANAGEMENT THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY ON, THEN YOU'RE PROCEEDING DOWN THIS ROAD OF FILL UP WHEN IT HITS THE 50% OR LESS AND IT MEETS THE POND HEALTH CRITERIA OF DISSOLVED OXYGEN PH. >> YES. I THINK THE QUESTION THERE IS -- THE PICTURE IT SHOWED A MINUTE AGO, IT'S NOT ON OUR SCREENS RIGHT HERE, LOOKED LIKE IT WAS WAY, WAY, WAY BELOW 50%. >> WE'RE NOT ARGUING THAT IT WAS BELOW 50%. THE PONDS IN THE HEIGHT OF THE DROUGHT, MANY WERE BELOW 50 % OF >> RIGHT. >> HOWEVER, THE POND HEALTH CRITERIA WAS NOT MET. SO THE 50% THEORETICALLY IS THE FIRST CHECK. OKAY? HAS IT GOT DOWN? WE MONITOR THE PONDS, WHETHER THEY'RE FULL OR 50% OR HIGHER. BUT THAT'S THE FIRST CHECK THAT WE'RE CHECKING OFF. THEN WE SAY, DO WE HAVE POND HEALTH ISSUES OR STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO TURN THE WATER ON? >> SO THE ONE THING I RECALL FROM ONE OF THE LAST SEVERAL MEETINGS WE HAD ON THIS TOPIC, WE HAD CONVERSATION WITH MUD 386 OR ANY. -- OF THE MUDS ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD DO A DISCOUNT RATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PURPOSE? >> WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT. WE HAVE THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT FLOWAGE EASEMENT. OPTION TWO WOULD BE MORE IN PLAY, BECAUSE THAT WATER BECOMES THEIRS. THEY'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS OPTION ONE ONLY, WOULD REQUIRE HARRIS COUNTY REVIEW AND APPROVAL, BECAUSE NOW WE'RE CHALLENGING THE INTEGRITY OF THE ROADS, THE CURBS, AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF. BUT WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR A DISCOUNT RATE. >> AND I'LL THROW OUT ANOTHER COMPLICATION OF THIS WHOLE STORY. NOT THE STORY, BUT THE WHOLE ISSUE. THE WATER IS COMING FROM THE GROUND. WE'RE IN A DROUGHT. YOU'VE GOT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON JUST PUT OUT A REPORT THIS WEEK OR LAST WEEK REGARDING -- >> IT WAS IN THE NEWSPAPER YESTERDAY OR THE DAY BEFORE. >> THE SUBSIDENCE IS SUBSTANTIAL IN OUR AREA IN DROUGHT CONDITIONS. I LIVED ON THE FAULT LINE FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DIDN'T KNOW THAT. YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY ASK THE QUESTION, BUT IF YOU TEXT ONE OF THESE PEOPLE UP HERE AND E-MAIL THEM, THEY'LL GET IT. THE CONCERN IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE NEED FOR MAINTAINING THE HEALTH OF THE POND, ABOUT BUT HONESTLY, IT'S FRANKLY EASY FOR US TO SAY FILL EVERYTHING UP AND SPEND MONEY TO DO THAT, OR IF WE CAN GET THE WATER FOR FREE, JUST USE THE WATER, BECAUSE IT'S LESS EXPENSIVE. NOTHING IS REALLY FREE, BECAUSE THERE'S THAT COMPOUNDING IMPACT OF THE HEALTH OF THE AQUIFERS AND EXACERBATED SUBSIDENCE AND MOVEMENT RATES THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON IS TELLING US IS PRESENT TODAY. YOU READ THE ARTICLE. >> ONE OF THE REASONS WHY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE DROUGHT OF 2009 TO 2012. IT WAS MORE SUSTAINED THAN WE'RE SEEING HERE TODAY. THERE WAS PRESSURE ON EVERYBODY TO RETHINK HOW THEY WERE USING WATER. AND SO WE CAME UP WITH TIERED OPTION FOR HIS ALL WATER USE, BECAUSE AS THE THIN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LOT OF WATER. AND GOING BACK EVEN A LITTLE BIT MORE IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE CHANGED A LOT OF PRACTICES AND [INDISCERNIBLE] YOU WERE ONE OF THE PROPONENTS OF THE ALL WEATHER TURF FIELDS THAT TOOK OUT A LOT OF IRRIGATION ON PURPOSE AND WE GOT BETTER QUALITY. WATER CONSERVATION IS IN OUR MIND ON A LOT OF OUR PRACTICES OF WHAT WE DO BECAUSE OF THE SUBSIDENCE CONCERNS, THE AVAILABILITY OF WATER FOR JUST OUR COMMUNITY IN GENERAL. >> AND FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH FAULT LINES IN THE WOODLANDS, THERE'S MULTIPLE FAULT LINES IN THE WOODLANDS. THERE'S EACH ONE NEXT TO THE WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL. IT IMPACTS A LOT OF HOUSES. IN 2011, MY HOUSE CRACKED IN HALF. MY POOL CRACKED IN HALF. AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE DROUGHT CONDITIONS AND THE COME PACKING OF THE SUBSURFACE WATER TABLES. WHEN WE SHIFTED TOWARD SURFACE WATER IN, WHAT? 2015? >> ABOUT THE TIME THE GRP CAME IN, YES. >> THE MOVEMENT RATE SUBSTANTIALLY SLOWED. BUT AS OF TODAY, BECAUSE WE'RE NOW IN DROUGHT CONDITIONS, THE MOVEMENT RATES ARE SHOWING AT A GREATER RATE ALONG FAULTING AREAS AND TRADITIONAL SUBSIDENCE. SO IT'S NOT A SINGULAR ISSUE. YOU HAVE TO BAM OUT THE NEED AND DESIRE FOR THE ESTHETIC PURPOSES, NEEDS AND DESIRE FOR THE HEALTH OF THE POND PURPOSES, AND THEN WHAT ARE THE WHAT HAM IF WE PULL OUT [00:45:09] GALLONS AND GO BACK TO # OR FEET, 200 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER OUT OF THE GROUND? AND I KNOW SOME OF IT'S BLENDED WITH SURFACE WATER, BUT IT'S A BIGGER ISSUE. >> A QUESTION. WHAT WOULD IT COST TO RAISE THE PONDS 1 FOOT? WEIGH THAT AGAINST THE COST FOR OPTION ONE AND PERHAPS IT MIGHT OFFSET FUTURE ISSUES? >> >> I WAS TRYING TO DO THAT MATH. >> I KNOW. >> WHERE I THINK THE ANALYSIS WOULD BE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF A FIVE-YEAR PLAN OF LOOKING AT FROM THE HURRICANE, WHICH WOULD BE MAX LEVEL AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST FIVE YEARS, IF THIS IMPROVEMENT WAS IN HERE AT THIS POND, NOT HALLWOOD, NOT SOME OF THE OTHER PONDS, THEN YOUR ELEVATION WOULD RAISE ONE AND THREE-QUARTER FEET OR TWO AND A SQUARE FEET FROM WHERE IT IS TODAY. SO YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE DOWN A FOOT AND A HALF PLUS OR MINUS AT A VALUE OF THAT $100,000 PLUS OR MINUS. SO THAT'S THE VALUATION -- VALUE PROPOSITION FROM THAT. AND BUT THERE'S MORE VALUE, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT FULL OUT OF THE GROUND. THAT'S THE INTRINSIC VALUE. YOU'RE CAPTURING IT FROM THE RAIN. >> YOU ARE CORRECTS FROM THAT STANDPOINT, AND THAT'S WHERE THIS AND THAT'S WHY THIS OPTION WAS IDENTIFIED. WITH THIS OPTION ONE, THERE WILL BE STILL TIMES WHERE THAT POND WILL BE POTENTIALLY THE SAME WAY IT IS TODAY. >> SURE. >> BUT IF YOU RUN THE FIVE-YEAR SCENARIO, WHICH BLIAL DID, YOU'LL SEE IT WILL RAISE FROM WHERE WE CURRENTLY ARE, 1.73 OR 2.27 FEET HIGHER. >> AND BASICALLY, THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH A FIVE-YEAR RUN, INCLUDING 17, IS THAT'S, WHAT? 500 YEAR FLOOD EVENT? >> HE WOULD WITH, THE REASON WHY THAT WAS USED, AND MAYBE I SHOULD TURN IT OVER TO YOU, WAS THE FACT THAT WE KNOW THE POPPED WAS FULL ON THAT DAY. AND SO YOU MEASURE POST HARVEY REALLY AS OPPOSED TO NOT TAKING HARVEY INTO CONSIDERATION >> HARVEY FILLED IT UP. WE ASSUMED IT WAS AT FORMAL STATIC PULL OF 129, AND THEN STARTED WITH THIS POINT. >> AND SO ONE OTHER THING YOU MENTIONED, THAT THERE ARE ULTERIOR COSTS DEALING WITH HAVING TO PUT INTO ROAD AND SOME OTHER THINGS. HAVE WE LOOKED AT WHAT TOTAL COST IMPACT WOULD BE IF WE DID EVERYTHING? >> THE 97,000 NUMBER IS THE BEST ESTIMATE OF WHAT REMOVING THOSE INLETS, REPLACING THEM, CLEANING EVERYTHING UP, AND THE ENGINEERING FEES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. >> AND I'M GOING TO MAKE IT EVEN MORE COMPLICATED, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO SYSTEM WIDE STUFF. OF THE 67 PONDS, HOW MANY OF THOSE 67 PONDS IS THIS A FEASIBLE SOLUTION FOR? >> BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR OF HALLWOOD. WE HAVE TO RUN THE NUMBERS AGAIN, BECAUSE YOU SEE THE CROSS SHADED AREA OF RED OR BLUE. IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE EXACT SAME AREA WHICH THEN TRANSLATION INTO X AMOUNT OF RAIN TO BE COLLECT IN THOSE POPPED. WE KNOW THERE'S A CHALLENGE AT HALLWOOD. WE KNOW THERE'S A CHALLENGE AT TWIN PONDS IN HAMBLIN BECAUSE OF LIMITED SURFACE RUN AREA OR THE LACK OF STORMWATER THAT'S ACTUALLY BEING PUSHED THROUGH THE POND SYSTEM. THOSE FOUR THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED, BUT WE HAVE NOT RUN THE NUMBERS LIKE YOU HAVE FOR KAYAK. KAYAK IN THE MEMO WAS REPORT AS THIS IS A PILOT THAT COULD BE USED FOR OTHER AS A SAMPLE, WHAT COULD BE DONE. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE ENGINEER. EXCUSE ME. I'M SORRY. IF WE DID A PILOT AS YOU USED THE TERM FOR THESE TWO PONDS, WHAT IF WE HAD ANOTHER HARVEY AND WE PUT I'LL CALL IT A DIVERSION OF THE WATER INSTEAD OF GOING INTO THE STORM DRAIN IS GOING INTO A POND. HAVE WE JUST SABOTAGED THE HOMES THAT ARE AROUND THE POND? >> THAT'S A VERY GOOD POINT. THAT WAS NOT NECESSARILY WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THE STUDY. IN THE CONCLUSION, WE DO POINT OUT THAT YOU'RE COMING IN. YOU'RE AFFECTING DRAINAGE CONDITIONS. THERE IS A VERY REAL POSSIBLE THAT THAT HAPPENS ONE OF THE HARRIS COUNTY PERMING ISSUES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE GONE [00:50:02] THROUGH FOR THIS WOULD BE AN EVALUATION OF THE FUNCTION OF THE PONDS ON 100 OR 500 YEAR STORM EVENT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT NOW INUNDATING HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THE PONDS, BECAUSE THAT COULD BE A WHOLE DIFFERENT ISSUE. TOO MUCH RAIN, NOW WE'VE GOT TOO MUCH WATER. >> YOU TAKE HARVEY. YOU ALL LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD I'M ASSUMING. DID YOU GUYS FLOOD IN HARVEY? NO. SO YOU TOOK 55 INCHES OF RAIN LOCALLY OVER A FEW DAY PERIOD IN THE SCENARIO, YOU PROBABLY JUST FLOODED THESE HOUSES. >> YOU'RE TALKING 50/50 * * 55 INCHES OF RAIN, TIMES A QUARTER INCH DEPTH ADDED MORE INCH OF RAIN. A COUPLE FEET EXTRA COMPARED TO HARVEY. >> BEHIND YOUR HOMES, BASICALLY, WITH THE SOLUTION. >> GOES IS IF YOU SEE THE TWO PARALLEL WHITE MARKERS, GIVE OR TAKE THOSE AREAS ARE WHERE STORM DRAINS COME FROM THE STREET WATER, NOT THE LAKES. THERE ARE OVERFLOW DEVICES THAT WILL ACTUALLY SPILL OVER NEXT TREATMENT EVENTS, INT THE STORMWATER, THROUGH THOSE DEVICES, INTO THAT LARGE DITCH THERE AND GO NORTH TO SPRING CREEK. WHAT YOU ARE IN THIS CASE, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO -- >> IT'S ALL VOLUME. HE THE VOLUME OF 55 INCHES IN THAT PERIOD OF TIME. YOU JUST FLOODEDYOUR OWN HOUSE, BECAUSE THE STORM DRAINS DURING HARVEY HIGHWAYS THE EXITING OF WATER INTO SPRING CREEK. IT WAS BASICALLY LIKE A BRICK AND THE WATER COULDN'T GET OUT. SOME OF THE AREAS CLOSER TO SPRING CREEK WERE FLOODING, BECAUSE IT'S BACKING UP FROM THE SEWAGE SYSTEM OR STORMWATER AREA BACK UP INTO THE STREETS THAT WERE PROPERLY TRAINING, BUT BACKFLOWING BACK UP. IT'S A 500 YEAR FLOOD, BUT IT'S A PROBABILITY IN RECENT YEARS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TRIED TO SOLVE ONE PROBLEM AND CREATED ANOTHER. >> PLUS WE'VE HAD MORE THAN 1500 YEAR FLOOD. >> WE'VE HAD THREE. >> DOCTOR, HAVE WE HAD ANY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH HARRIS COUNT BY THIS? >> WE HAVE NOT HAD THE DISCUSSIONS. WE DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP THAT IT WOULD NOT BE DIFFICULT TO GET THEM TO REVIEW THIS CONCEPT TO SAY IS THIS SOMETHING FEASIBLE OR MORE REVIEW THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BY HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL OR SOME OTHER ENTITY THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE OF AT THIS POINT? >> AND IT'S NOT ISOLATED TO HARRIS COUNTY. IT JUST HAPPENS THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE FROM CREEKSIDE PARK. THERE ARE PONDS IN EVERY VILLAGE THAT ARE DOWN. SO JUST SO YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE NOT ALONE. WE ARE GETTING FEEDBACK FROM OTHER FOLKS IN PROXIMITY TO THOSE PONDS. >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS TO TRY TO FIND AN IDEA, AND NOT TO BELABOR AND CONTINUE ON FROM MAKING DECISIONS, WE COULD RETURN BACK TO, AT SOME POINT, AND GET A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE PERMED BY HARRIS COUNTY TO MAKE A FULL VALUE JUDGMENT ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DONE. WE'VE GOT TO THIS THIS POINT RIGHT NOW. WHERE HE KNOW IT MAY ADD A SMALL AMOUNT OF WATER TO IT FOR THESE RESIDENTS ANY AMOUNT OF WATER IS A VALID, A POSITIVE THING. HOWEVER, PERMITTING IS ALWAYS A DO NOT PASS GO TYPE OF SITUATION. >> AND THERE'S LOTS OF HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL, SO THIS WOULD HAVE EYE REGULAR RIGHT, EVEN IF THEY WANTED TO DO IT. AS FAR AS OUR BOARD POLICY GOES, AND CHRIS, I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO YOUR NUMBER, IF WE HAVE A TRIGGER AT 50% WHERE WE MEASURE THE HEALTH OF THE POND, SHOULD WE BE CONSIDERING THE NUMBER WHERE THE POND GOES BELOW 50% TO SOME OTHER LEVEL WHERE WE SHOULD PUT SOME WATER BACK IN? YOU SAID WE HAVE A LEVELER TYPE OF THING IN >> THE STAFF HAS TAKEN MEASUREMENTS. A LOT OF IT IS VISUAL. LOOKING AT THE KEY CHARACTERISTICS, THE PARK STAFF IS SEEK THESE PONDS. THE CONTRACTORS ARE AROUND. WE COULD COME BACK WITH ANOTHER POND MANAGEMENT POLICY RELATED TO FILLS. HOWEVER, AT SOME POINT, IF YOU DECIDE TO FILL, THERE WILL BE WATER BEING USED THROUGH SOME WELL STANDPOINT AND THERE BECOMES A SUBSIDENCE CONCERN. IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE 50%, WE COULD SAY, HEY, IT'S AT 50%. NO MATTER POPPED HEALTH OR NOT. THAT'S ONE WAY. >> I WAS SUGGESTING A NUMBER BELOW THAT. >> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING. OR IDENTIFY 25%, NO MATTER POND HEALTH OR NOT. THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY BRING DIFFERENT [00:55:06] COSTS. PERHAPS POTENTIALLY BRINGING MORE USE OF WATER, WHICH WOULD BE WELL, BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING WE HAVE HOUSTON, YOU KNOW, FOR MY 16 YEARS. WE HAVE BOOM AND BUS CYCLES RELATED TO THE RAIN. ONE OCTOBER, IN ONE OF MY FIRST YEARS HERE, I THINK IT RAPED 30 I KNOW: WE HAVE THREE MONTHS WHERE WE DON'T SEE ANYTHING, EVEN THOUGH THOSE WERE SUPPOSED TO BE OUR MOST PRODUCTIVE MONTHS. BEEN THAT. JUNE, JULY, AND AUGUST ARE THE MOST PRODUCTIVE MONTHS AND WE MISSED THAT. >> I WAS ONLY SUGGESTING HAVING SOME FILL NUMBER BELOW 50%. >> I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS REALLY EXAMINE THAT, OF WHAT THE POTENTIAL IMPACT IS ON HOW MUCH WATE DOES THAT EQUATE? AND THE NEXT QUESTION BECOMES -- >> AND I WAS GOING TO TIE THAT TO THE ASK OF THE MUDS TO SAY, HEY, AS PART OF OUR OUT MANAGEMENT PLAN, WE AS A COMMUNITY ARE RESTRAINING OURSELVES FROM GOING OUT HERE AND DOING THESE THINGS, BUT WHEN WE HIT THIS EXTREME LOW LEVEL, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE ABILITY TO GET TO SOME -- PUT SOME BACK IN IF THEY'RE WILLING TO DO RATE WAIVER OR RATE REDUCTION FOR THAT PURPOSE. >> ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THIS WHOLE ASPECT IS THE MUDS, YOU KNOW? THEY MANAGE THEIR WATER SYSTEMS SEPARATE FROM US COMPLETELY. BUT BESIDES THE HARRIS COUNTY PORTION, IRONICALLY, THAT WAS UNDER UNDER VOLUNTARY RESTRICTIONS RIGHT NOW. THE WOODLANDS WATER DID NOT, ALTHOUGH IT WAS A DROUGHT, DID NOT ISSUE ANY REDISTRICTS. SO THAT FRONT PLACEMENT TALL AT THIS IS WE'RE STILL OPERATING UNDER OUR STANDARDS ON HOW WE MANAGED DROUGHT, BUT THEY DIDN'T KICK IN THE STANDARDS. THE CONCERN BECOMES IF THEY GO INTO A STAGE ONE, TWO, THREE, OUR FOUR, WE HAVE TO CORRESPOND THAT AS WELL RIGHT NOW, IT IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL ON HOW WE'RE DOING THIS, WHETHER WE'RE IN STAGE 1 THROUGT CHECKING AT 50% AND ONCE WE START SEEING WE DOUGH BELOW 50%, WE SECRET I CALCULATORS OF POPPED HEALTH. THAT'S WHEN THE WATER GOT TRIGGERED BEYOND. >> MY LAST QUESTION, I SWEAR, YES, SIR OR ENGINEER FROM BLIALU STATE WHERE THE POND LEVEL IS TODAY, HOW LONG, GIVEN OUR NORMAL RAIN CYCLES, WOULD YOU SAY IT WOULD TAKE FOR THEM TO GET BACK TO, YOU KNOW, LEVEL OR WITHIN A FOOT OF LEVEL. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, AND TO BE HONEST, I DON'T HAVE A DIRECT ANSWER FOR YOU HANDILY IN FRONT OF ME. WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD TALK WITH CHRIS AND GET INFORMATION ABOUT OUR BEST ESTIMATE ON THE POPPED LEVEL TODAY AND THEN GET RIGHT BACK WITH YOU ON THAT, BECAUSE IT'S REALLY, IF WE'RE OFF BY A FOOT, THAT COULD VARY THE ANSWER BY A MATTER OF MONTHS. >> THE BASIS OF THE QUESTION IS THEY WANT TO KNOW WHEN IS THEIR POND GOING TO COME BACK TO LIFE IF WE DO NOTHING AND THEY HAVE NORMAL RAIN CYCLES? WHAT IS THE PROBABILITY OF THAT POND COMING BACK TO WHERE THEY'RE USED TO SEEING IT? AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE TRIGGERS FOR MY QUESTION. I THINK IT'S DOWN TO 30%, AND THESE RECHARGE TIMELINES ARE SO EXTENDED, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO THEN HAVE THAT TRIGGER TO WHERE YOU GO UP TO SOME LEVEL, SO IT'S NOT FOREVER BELOW. >> THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDEAS I KIND OF SCRIBBLED WHEN IT HITS A CRITICAL POINTED OF I DO NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, MAKING POLICY FROM THE DAIS, BUT WHEN IT HITS 25%, USING IT AS A NUMBER, THEN WE DO FILL UP TO 25 OR 50%, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. I THINK THE DIRECTION I'VE HEARD FROM THE BOARD IS TO GO CHECK TO SEE IF THIS IDEA IS EVEN FEASIBLE FROM HARRIS COUNTY. HARRIS COUNTY FLOOD CONTROL, LOOK AT SOME OF THE DATA FROM THIS. WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO GET BACK TO NORMAL? HOWEVER, WE DEFINE NORMAL, WHETHER IT BE THE 50% LEVEL, 75%, # 100% LEVEL. HOW MUCH RAIN WOULD ACTUALLY BE NEEDED WITHIN X AMOUNT OF TIME IN AND TO SOME EXTENT, LOOK SYSTEM WIDE, AGAIN, AT OUR DROUGHT MANAGEMENTS PLAN TO SEE IF WE WERE TO CHOOSE ANOTHER THRESHOLD BESIDES 50%, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT ARE THE IMPACTS AND USE OF WATER IN TERMS OF FINANCIAL CONSIDERATION? >> DR. NOON, YOU CAN CHECK TO SEE IF THE HARRIS/GALVESTON SUBSIDENCE DISTRICT HAS ANY KIND OF OVERSIGHT ON US. >> THANK YOU. >> I WAS GOING TO THROW OUT [01:00:01] ANOTHER GOVERNING BODY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF IT. I KNOW THIS WAS HARRIS COUNTY SPECIFIC. TALKING ABOUT MONTGOMERY COUNTY, WE HAVE MORE PONDS IN MONTGOMERY COUNTY. >> THESE DECISIONS EXPANDS THE CREEK. >> AND AGAIN, I'M NOT ADVOCATING WE GO OUT AND USE POTABLE WATER TOMORROW. AND WE HAVE TO MEASURE NOT JUST THE AVAILABILITY DURING A DROUGHT, BUT THE SUBSIDENCE ISSUES AND THE FAULTING AGGRAVATION AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS INTO A HOLISTIC VIEW. . >> JUST AS A PARALLEL, I KNOW WE WERE DOWN TO PAGE 3 IN 2012 FROM A DROUGHT CONSIDERATION, BUT STAGE FOUR IS BASICALLY WE'RE DOWN TO NO -- POOLS ARE NOT OPERATING. SPRAY GROUNDS ARE OPERATING. VERY LIMITED USE OF WATER. NO IRRIGATION TYPE OF THING. WISH A GOT TO LOOK HOLISTICALLY AGAIN. >> WE DIDN'T CHANGE ANY POLICY TODAY, BUT WE GOT A LOT THINGS TO CONSIDER AND YOU'LL COME BACK IN FUTURE BOARD MEETING AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON FEASIBILITY AFTER CHECKING WITH THOSE ADDITIONAL AGENCIES IN >> AND ANY PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH MUD ABOUT THE 386, TOO? >> YEAH. WE HAVE A POSITIVE RELATIONSHIP WITH 386, AS WELL [9. Receive, consider and act upon a request from the City of Conroe to concur with the David Memorial Drive extension project to be partially funded under the Regional Participation Agreement between The Woodlands Township and the City of Conroe (C-2007-5292);] AS WOODLANDS WALTER. >> ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL TAKE NO ACTION ON AGENDA ITEM A. WE'LL MOVE TO NINE, RECEIVE, CONSIDER, ACT UPON A RECEIPT FROM THE CITY OF CONROE TO CON SURE WITH THE DAVID MEMORIAL DRIVE EXTENSION PROJECT TO BE FACTUALLY FUNDED WITHIN THE REGIONAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE WOODLANDS THIN AND THE CITY OF CONROE. >> THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP RECEIVED A REQUEST FROM THE CITY OF CONROE TO RECEIVE FUNDS FROM THE RPA FUND. AS THE BOARD IS AWARE, THE TOWNSHIP HAS A REGIONAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF HOUSTON, SIMILAR, AND ONE WITH THE CITY OF CONROE THAT TO DATE, THE THIN HAS DEPOSITED $838,057 INTO THE REGIONAL PARTICIPATION FUND, WHICH INCLUDES THE INITIAL DEPOSIT OF $320,000. THERE IS CURRENTLY $501,021 IN THE FUND. ANY TIME THE CITY REQUESTS TO USE THOSE FUNDS, THEY DO HAVE TO ACTUALLY MATCH THE AMOUNT THAT EXISTS IN THE FUND. THEY HAVE REQUESTED IT FOR THE USE OF THE DAVID MEMORIAL DRIVE EXTENSION, WHICH IS A JOINT PROJECTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF CONROE, THE CITY OF SHENANDOAH, AND MONTGOMERY COUNTY. THE CITY OF CONROE'S OBLIGATION ON THAT IS $2 MILLION ESTIMATED RIGHT NOW. SO EVEN WITH THEIR MATCH AND THE RPA FUNDS, THEY WOULD STILL BE OBLIGATED FOR APPROXIMATELY ANOTHER $1 MILLION. THE RPA -- THE PROJECT IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD AND WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN ACCEPTABLE USE OF THE FUNDS. THE ONE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THIS REQUEST AND THE ONES THAT YOU HAVE SEEN FROM THE CITY OF HOUSTON IN THE PAST IS THAT THEY HAVE REQUESTED TO ALLOW THE CITY OF SHENANDOAH TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER FOR THIS PROJECT. THE PROJECT MANAGER OR PROJECTS THAT USE THE RPA FUNDS THAT IS A PROVISION THAT IS DEFINED IN ARTICLE IV OF THE RPA, AND THE CITY OF CONROE DID POINT THAT OUT IN THEIR LETTER. WE DID WORK WITH LEGAL COUNSEL FROM SPECIAL DISTRICT COUNSEL THAT WORKED WITH US ON THE RPAS IN THE BEGINNING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE INSTRUMENT TO APPROVE THAT IF THE BOARD SO DESIRES, SO THERE IS A DRAFT LETTER TO THE CITY OF CONROE THAT'S IN YOUR ADDITIONAL MATERIALS. THE BOARD IS INTERESTED, YOU WOULD BE PROVIDING THE LETTER'S OFFICIAL NOTICE STATING THAT THE THIN BOARD CONSENTS TO THE USE OF THE FUNDS FOR THIS EXTENSION PROJECT AND ALSO DEFINING THAT YOU WILL CONCEPT TO THE CITY OF SHENADOAH TO BE THE PROJECT MANAGER. >> SO THIS WAS A LOT OF PROJECTS GOING BACK TO OUR SOUTH COUNTY MOBILITY PLAN WHERE EVERYBODY COULD AGREE ON THIS? >> RIGHT. >> SO DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF I GO APPROVING THIS. THIS IS ONE OF THE TRANSPORTATION CORRIDORS THAT WILL TAKE PRESSURE OFF I45 AND ESPECIALLY THE FEEDER ROAD BETWEEN WOODLANDS PARKWAY AND 242, PROVIDING NOT JUST ANOTHER CONDUIT FOR PEOPLE TO GET DOWN TO 242, BUT ALSO A PUBLIC SAFETY ENHANCEMENT BECAUSE OF THE ACCESS TO THE ST. LUKE'S HOSPITAL. WE COLLECTIVELY, AS EVERY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY, IT'S [01:05:04] ONE OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN PUT UP AND SAY, WHEN EVERYBODY SAYS WE CAN'T GET ALONG, HERE'S SOMETHING WE ALL ACTUALLY AGREE ON. THAT WOULD BE EVERY CITY AND THE COUNTY AND A TOWNSHIP. WE ALL UNANIMOUSLY AGREE THIS IS MERITED. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION, AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE CAN SECOND IT. >> OKAY. >> I'VE GOT TO READ IT FIRST. IT'S LONG. IT'S SUPER LONG. I'M MAKE THE MOTION. I'LL BE SPEAKING A SECOND TO CONTOUR WITH THE CITY'S CONROE'S ASK TO ALLOCATE? REGIONAL PARTICIPATE FUNDS TOWARDS PARTIALLY FUNDING THE DAVID MEMORIAL DRIVE EXTENSION PROJECT AND CONCEPTS TO THE CITY OF CONROE'S USE OF THE CITY OF SHENANDOAH AS THE PROJECT MANAGER, SUBJECT TO THE TERMS OF SECTION 4.1 OF THE REGIONAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE WOODLANDS TOWNSHIP AND THE CITY OF CONROE. DO YOU HAVE A SECOND IN >> SECOND. Ú>> I HAVE A TIE. I HAVE A SECOND AND A THIRD. AND ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. AND FOR CLARITY, FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT A REGIONAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT IS, THIS GOES BACK TO 2007 WHEN WE SIGNED AGREEMENTS WITH THE THE CITY OF HOUSTON AND THE CITY OF CONROE. THE FUNDS ARE COMING FROM THE 116TH AND 1 PENNY OF OUR SALES TAX WE GIVE TO THE CITY OF HOUSTON OR CITY SOLICOTOR CITY OF CONROE BASED ON THEIR GEOGRAPHY AND EXTRA TERRITORIAL JURISDICTION RIGHTS. AND THIS AGREEMENT RUNS FOR 99 YEARS FROM 2007, DESPITE WHAT YOU MIGHT HEAR FROM OTHERS. IT IS STILL IN EFFECT AND STILL IN PLACE AND SO WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO USE [10. Receive, consider and act upon the Congestion Mitigation and Air Quality grant-funded Energy Corridor Commuter Service Pilot Program (C-2021-0464)(C-2021-0463);] IT FOR A GOOD PUBLIC PURPOSE. AWESOME. ALL RIGHT. AGENDA ITEM TEN. RECEIVE, CONSIDER, AND ACT UPON THE CONGESTION MITIGATION AND AIR QUALITY GRANT-FUNDED ENERGY CORRIDOR COMMUNITY SERVICE PILOT PROGRAM. RUTH ANN? >> SO GOOD EVENING, BOARD OF DIRECTORS. TONIGHT I RETURN TO SEEK DIRECTION FOR THE FUTURE OF THIS WOODLANDS EXPRESS ENERGY CORRIDOR SERVICE PILOT PROGRAM FOR 2023. DUE TO THE LOWER THAN FORECASTED RIDER HIGH PRESSURE AND FAIR BOX RECOVERY, THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE TOWNSHIP'S FIRST YEAR OF LOCAL SHARE COMMITMENT WAS FULLY EXPENDED SEPTEMBER 1ST OF THIS YEAR. AND IF YOU WILL RECALL, BACK IN JULY, THE BOARD AUTHORIZED ADDITIONAL LOCAL SHARE FUNDS TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM THROUGH THE END OF THIS YEAR, 2022. DURING THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, RIDERSHIP NUMBERS WERE STEADILY INCREASING MONTH OVER MONTH, BUT WELL BY LOW FORECASTED NUMBERS, PARTIALLY DUE TO COVID. HOWEVER, SINCE JUNE THIS HAS LEVELED OFF, AND IN SEPTEMBER, WE IMPLEMENTED A COST SAVINGS MEASURE WHERE WE FURTHER CUT SERVICE TO FOUR RUNS A DAY, 2:00 IN THE MORNING, 2:00 IN THE AFTERNOON. THIS CUT IN SERVICE HAS IMPROVED THE COST PER RIDER, WHICH YOU CAN SEE IN THE LAST TWO LINES OF ROWS OF THIS CHART AS A REMINDER, WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TWO SERVICE AGREEMENTS TO FUND THE SERVICE. FIRST IS THE CONTRACT WITH THE HOUSTON GALVESTON AREA COUNCIL FOR READ OF THE GRAND FUNDS. THESE GRANT FUNDS COVER 80% OF SERVICE COSTS. WHILE THREE YEARS OF SERVICE HAVE BEEN APPROVED, WE MUST ENTER INTO A NEW FUNDING AGREEMENTS EVERY 12 MONTHS. SO ANNUALLY. THE CURRENT FUND BEING AGREEMENT ENDS IN THIS DECEMBER. SO WE WOULD, IF WE WERE TO CONTINUE THE SERVICE, WILLED NEED TO EXECUTE A NEW AGREEMENT FOR 2023. SECONDLY, WE HAVE ENTERED INTO A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE ENERGY CORRIDOR MANAGEMENT DISTRICT WHEREBY BOTH PARTIES CONTRIBUTE HALF OF THE REQUIRED 20% LOCAL MATCH REQUIREMENT. SO 10% OF OVERALL FUNDING EACH. THE AGREEMENT COVERS THE FIRST THREE YEARS OF THE PILOT PROGRAM, SO THERE IS A NO ACTION NEEDED TO CONTINUE IT, BUT IF WE WERE TO TERMINATE SERVICE, WELDS NEED TO ISSUE THEM A TERMINATION NOTICE THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE FORECASTED COSTS FOR 2023 BASED ON THE LOWER RIDERSHIP PROJECTIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING AND THE REDUCED SERVICE COST TO FOUR RUNS PER DAY. THE FIRST CHART SHOWS THE TOTAL FORECASTED COST FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK SERVICE, SO MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. THE SECOND CHART SHOWS COSTS IF WE WERE TO OFFER THREE DAYS A WEEK SERVICE ON THE DAYS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SEEK THE HIGHEST RIDERSHIP, WHICH IS TUESDAY THROUGH THURSDAY. THE ENERGY CORRIDOR DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS MET EARLIER THIS WEEK AND DISCUSSED THE PILOT SERVICE [01:10:02] THEY EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SEEING THE PILOT CONTINUE THROUGH 2023. THEY ARE MOST INTERESTED IN SEEING FIVE DAYS A WEEK SERVICE, BUT DID INDICATE THAT THEY ARE OKAY AND WILLING TO DO THREE DAYS A WEEK SERVICE AS WELL IF THE TOWNSHIP WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE. >> I'LL LET YOU GO. GO AHEAD. >> SO THE OVERALL COST FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK TO THE TOWNSHIP WOULD BE 52,000 AND SOME CHANGE THREE DAYS A WEEK WOULD BE 32,000. >> SO -- >> PER YEAR? >> IT'S A YEAR. >> ANNUAL. >> THERE ARE NUMBERS WE HAVE FOR RIDERSHIP, DOES THAT GO INTO OUR UZA OF ALLOCATED FUNDS IN >> YES. >> SO THERE'S A SIDEBAR BENEFIT OF KEEPING THIS ALIVE AT THIS SUBSIDIZED RATE? BECAUSE WE GET ALL THE CREDIT. >> WE GET ALL THE CREDIT AND WE ONLY PAY 10% OF THE COST. >> I LIKE THAT. >> THAT'S EASY. >> OKAY. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE AGREEMENT TO GIVE IT ANOTHER YEAR. >> OKAY. >> I WOULD LIKE TO, OBVIOUSLY, SEE IT UTILIZED MORE EFFICIENTLY, BUT OBVIOUSLY YOU'VE DONE A LOT. ACTUALLY, CONGRATULATIONS ON GETTING US DOWN FROM THE PREVIOUS COST PER RIDER. IT SHOULDN'T GO UNNOTICED. WE STARTED OFF LIKE BLEEDING AND NOT LOOKING ALL THAT HEALTHY. SINCE JUNE, YOU BASICALLY CUT THE NET COST PROVIDER IN HALF, AND WE DIDN'T CUT THE ENTIRE SERVICE BY HALF. SO THANK YOU, RUTH ANN. JOB WELL DONE. >> THANK YOU. >> I WAS THINKING THAT IF I WAS RUNNING FOR YOUR JOB AS A POLITICAL PERSON, I'D BE USING THIS CHART TO SAY, LOOK HOW WELL I DID. >> GOAL IS EFFICIENCY WITH TRANSIT. >> YES. WELL, WELL DONE. WE APPRECIATE IT. I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CONTINUE THE PROGRAM FOR FIVE DAYS A WEEK OF SERVICE THROUGH 2023. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? [11. Receive, consider, and act upon a proposal for the conversion of the sportsfield lights at Wendtwoods Park to LED lighting (C-2019-0185A);] >> AYE >> OPPOSED? THERE WE GO. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, RUTH ANN. AGENDA ITEM 11. RECEIVE, CONSIDER, AND ACT UPON A PROPOSAL FOR THE CONVERSION OF THE SPORTSFIELD LIGHTS AT WENDTWOODS PARKS TO L.E.D. LIGHTING. >> GOOD EVENING. LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S A PROPOSAL FOR THE CONVERSION OF SPORTSFIELD LIGHTS AT WENDTWOODS PARK TO L.E.D. LIGHTING. AS YOU WELL REMEMBER, AUGUST 25TH WE DID THE 2022 PARKS AND RECREATION NEEDS ASSESSMENT PLAN THAT DISCUSSED THIS. IN THE BUDGET PROCESS, A LITTLE UNDER 8.2 MILLION WAS EARMARKED FOR FUTURE PROJECTS. OF THAT, A LITTLE UNDER 2.7 WAS FOR THE LED CONVERSIONS, SO WITH THIS, THE OPTION. PROPOSAL FROM MIA AM ELECTRIC WAS FOR A TURNKEY PRICE OF CHANGING ALL THE MIXTURES TO LED MIXTURES IS 144,000 AND $770. KEEP IN MIND WITH LED, ALTHOUGH SPILL AND GLARE ARE IMPROVED WITH LEDS, WE'LL STILL PUT SHIELDS ON THEM TO MAKE SURE. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A PILOT PROJECT WE MIXED ONE, EVEN THOUGH IT SETS ABOUT TEN-YEARS-OLD. WE ARE RUNNING INTO ISSUES WITH THE FIXTURES THAT ARE CURRENTLY THERE. THIS ONE COMES TO BE A REAL GOOD PLACE. THAT WAY WE CAN GET THE USER GROUPS OUT THERE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT THE SPILL OF THE LIGHT AND ONCE WE SEE HOW THIS MOVES OUT, WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE REST OF THE CONVERSIONS HOPEFULLY IN THE SAME MANNER. WE'LL STILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CENTERPOINT IN THAT AREA ABOUT INCENTIVES FOR CONVERTING TO LED. WE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM. WE'LL TALK TO ENTERGY AND CENTERPOINT, ALSO. >> YOU HAVE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS? >> YES, SIR, YES, SIR. >> BESIDES ANY QUESTIONS, JUST THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR THE PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, TO CONVERT THE SPORTSFIELDS FOR 144,000 [INDISCERNIBLE] >> DO WE HAVE A MOTION? >> I'LL MAKE A MOTION. >> I'LL SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE. [12. Receive, consider and act upon the purchase of a replacement ladder truck;] >> ANY OPPOSED? >> WELL DONE, JOHN. ITEM 12, RECEIVE, CONSIDER, AND ACT UPON THE PURCHASE OF A REPLACEMENT LADDER TRUCK. AND WE HAVE CHIEF BUCK, WHICH I THINK WE ALREADY APPROVED THIS IN OUR BASE BUDGET. NO? NO TRUCK? ALL RIGHT. >> I SHOULD HAVE SAID YES, CHIEF. >> YES. >> DON'T YOU REMEMBER? >> STOP WHEN YOU'RE AHEAD. [01:15:01] RIGHT IN >> THIS IS THE CONTINUING SAGA OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES AND COST INCREASES. WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS CONSIDERATION TO PURCHASE A TRUCK THAT'S NOT DUE UNTIL 2024 AND PURCHASE IT NOW, LOOKING AT A 3-YEAR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW. >> SO IT IS PART OF OUR 30-YEAR CAPITAL PLAN? >> YES, SIR. >> SO TECHNICALLY, YES IT WAS APPROVED. >> YES. >> IT WAS JUST NOT TO BE LET FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS. YOU'RE PREEMPTIVELY ORDERING SOMETHING THAT'S STILL GOING TO ARRIVE ON TIME? >> ACTUALLY, PROBABLY LATE. >> BUT HOPEFUL "TIME. OKAY. I DON'T THINK THIS IS A LONG DISCUSS -- HOPEFULLY ON TIME. >> WE'LL TAKE A MOTION IN A SECOND. >> IS SO MOVED. >> IS I'VE GOT TO GIVE SPECIFICS. RIGHT? >> YES, SIR, BECAUSE THERE IS THE OPTION TO PREPAY OR TO PAY WHEN IT ARRIVES. WE SEE SOME SIGNIFICANT COST SAVINGS BY PREPAIRING FOR THE TRUCK NOW. >> WE SAVE ALMOST 100 GRAND. >> YES, SIR. >> AND ON THAT AMOUNT OF CAPITAL, OUR CURRENT INTEREST WE'RE RECEIVING IS WHAT? 3%? 2%? 3%? SO IT'S -- WE'RE GETTING LIKE HALF OF -- WE'RE GETTING 50 GRAND IN ACTUAL SAVINGS ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WE'D BE RECEIVING IN INTEREST EXPENSE. SO IF WE WANT TO SAVE $50,000 FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE WOODLANDS, WE WILL PREPAY. >> YES, SIR. >> ALL RIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE -- I'M GOING TO NEED A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE LLC PREPAYMENT PROPOSAL, HGAC CONTRACT NUMBER FS12-19 TO PURCHASE ONE PIERCE CUT TO HIM VELOCITY AERIAL HD LADDER, 100-FOOT MID MOUNT FOR THE AMOUNT OF $1,759,242.87 PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 75,000 FOR REPLACEMENT HOSE AND EQUIPMENT. FOR THE TOTAL OF $1,834,242 AND 87 CENTS UTILIZING THE CAPITAL RESERVE, CAPITAL REPLACEMENT RESERVE. >> YES, SIR. >> MOTION. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE? >> AYE. >> ANY OPPOSED? [13. Recess to Executive Session to discuss matters relating to real property pursuant to §551.072, Texas Government Code; deliberation of economic development negotiations pursuant to §551.087, Texas Government Code; discuss personnel matters pursuant to §551.074, Texas Government Code; discuss IT network or critical infrastructure security pursuant to §551.089, Texas Government Code; and to consult with The Woodlands Township’s attorney pursuant to §551.071, Texas Government Code;] >> THERE WE GO. >> THANK YOU. >> YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. WE ARE NOW GOING TO RECESS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DISCUSS MATTERS RELATED TO REAL PROPERTY, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT NEGOTIATIONS RELATED TO 551.087, TAX GOVERNMENT CODE, DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS PURSUANT TO 551.074, TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, DISCUSS IT NETWORK OR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE SECURITY PURSUANT TO 551.089 AND TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, AND TO CONSULT >> THERE WAS FOR ACTION3 [14. Reconvene in public session;] [15. Consideration of items to be placed on the agenda for next month's meeting;] TO TAKE COMING OUT OF EXECUTIVE SESSION. WE WILL KNOW GO TO BOARD WORD ANNOUNCEMENTS. ANY FUTURE AGENDA REQUESTS? >> I DO HAVE ONE, CHAIRMAN. RELATED TO THE YOUNG WOMAN WHO SPOKE THE FIRST TIME ABOUT THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE NOISE. I KNOW WE'VE BEEN BRIEFED BY DR. HAVE US UPDATE WHAT WE CAN DO AND ANY KIND OF OPTIONS FOR THAT COMMUNITY. >> DID I HEAR A REQUEST FOR PICKLEBALL? >> YES. WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S REALLY EACH FEASIBLE, BUT I'M SURE DR. NONES DOES AND IT'S WORTH HEARING FROM HIM ON THAT. >> ANY OTHER PERIOD AGENDA QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OTHER BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS? IF NOT, WE WILL TAKE A MOTION TO ADJOURN. >> SO MOVED. >> SECOND. >> YOU BEAT JOHN. >> * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.